Free Your Set from Flags & Frames with The Lightbridge Cine Reflect Lighting System
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- Опубліковано 4 чер 2019
- First developed by Academy Award® winning Austrian DP Christian Berger (The White Ribbon, Caché, The Piano Teacher) as a way to achieve a natural key light and control soft light without flags and stands, the Cine Reflect Lighting System has had a long journey since its debut earlier last year.
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Wow. While everyone is (understandably) obsessing over the next camera, I’m obsessing over these lights. Fantastic product.
They're not lights
@@storyfrontier My apologies. These reflectors. Of course they require a proper beam of light but the whole setup is exciting.
Watching this video made perfect sense. The idea of reflecting a light of a completely flat surface will work better than a normal reflector made out of fabric. The fabric can flex causing a convex or concave surface for light to bounce off of. Ever play with a hand mirror outside. It makes the light punch though the 360* source of the sun and doesn’t make too much of a larger reflection feet away. Shining a spotlight that is close to sunlight to a flat reflective surface can be so easy to replicate with mirrors or spay them with a clear velvet spray paint to “diffuse” the reflection and there you go. Granted mirrors would have the ability to break. So why charge so much for a sheet of steel that you could polish to your likings?
@@ngonzale3 dude only one mirror is $5,700 plus taxes+ shipping. Are you yet still obsessed ?
dedolight lightstream does this several years already, I can't find any productions using these light extensively. This is a very good way of controlling the light. Thanks
haha "theres just too much shit". Amen. Jakob is a straight badass
pretty cool light set up
So you guys are basically using a fresnel lens I already have one of these panels they work pretty good
If there was an actual wall behind him and a ceiling above him tilting the reflector would result in a brighter room, wouldn't it?
We would wind up diffusing this anyways and back comes the stands and flags.
Literally was thinking ' That key light needs to be flagged off the back wall, you'll need a negative to control the splash back from the opposite wall.
I am producing a small project that involves talking heads setupswhile back packing in Europe and this seems like a great alternative to carrying around several units.
This is really cool definitely, but two aspects that just make this incredibly unworkable, firstly the fact that the large one it is the price of a SkyPanel S60, in nothing but big-budget films could I ever make the argument for such a price point that in an of itself isn't even an actual source but only a modifier. Also, I would really need to see more how well these would stand up in a rental house setting, can they take being hit and be a very durable modifier, or do we need to worry about it being protected like it was a mirror board?
TheTechnoPilot you mean the same price as an S60 to rent or to buy? If you have production mandating what light sources you can use or not, I think you have bigger problems. You can always work something out with a rental house. Sky Panels aren’t cheap by any means and if you want to control the light you are going to need quite a bit of grippage. So in my experience the costs balance out.
As per durability: yes they are delicate, since they are an optical system: with a “don’t be gentle it’s a rental” mentality these reflectors are not really a workhorse. It takes a certain type of finesse to work with these. I definitely see your second point.
You are right but a i disagree on one thing. Big budget films would have a lighting crew and this would become even more of a nuisance to work with than what it is worth. I mean so over priced? Jesus? I cannot justify their price tag. I have savage c stands and i can recreate the same thing with an acrylic mirror!!
@@androcci yeah honestly unless you are on a big budget Hollywood film, we all have budgets and S60 purchase price means S60 rental price and there are very few indy budget films I’ve worked on where I can get all the lighting I want, including number of Skypanels. I wish that wasn’t the case but that’s life. At the end of the day if I don’t have as many sources as I want, I can’t see sacrificing a source for one of these.
it's just bounce off of a semi-matte reflector, why are they acting like any of this is new?
Someone, please explain me.
Why won't you need flags with this?
Why is it so stupid expensive? Is it made of platinum?
adamantium
From Unobtainium gathered on the moons of Pandora.
If it's diffuse you need flags. Controlled bounce just means it's not diffuse, just look at this video. I had hoped for perhaps a lenticular coating or even something akin to the privacy film on an atm screen. Unless someone can enlighten me, this is bollocks
Prices isn’t on a home page, in fact I have a hard time finding any prices at all. Could some one help me with that ?
www.bbslighting.com/collections/the-lightbridge-crls He said check out BBS lighting. Mentioned a man named Tobi. I have dealt with Tobi through email and he is wonderfully nice.
Magic Bounce
I work with a DOP who was these in his kit and we use them now and then and they are nicer to set up than a mirror board but we still use flags and frames and i cant justify the price of them
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isnt this like putting an extra frame with an extra flag only way more expensive?so stupid
Are you sure that's the right Christian Berger? The Christian Berger who did The White Ribbon is 76 years old.
Did he say bollywood @ 3:38 ?
he did. haha
Isn't the name Lightbridge patented by DJI?
Isn't this completely ripped off of the Dedo Lightstream System? It's the exact same thing, the sets even come in the same sizes and diffusion grades...
Ooooooor, maaaaaybeeeee Dedo ripped off them. Which is actually the case.
@@CrisBaggins hasn't dedo been around for years?
@@CrisBaggins sorry, just researched and the earlier introduction videos date back to 2018/19. So i guess you're right! Thanks for pointing that out!
@@CrisBaggins I thought they ripped off. thanks for pointing this out.
I love the idea of this but it's too damn expensive for what it is sorry.
This is not the guy who did white ribbon xd
If you guys want a lighter light. Buy the falcon eyes rx724 for a 1/4 of the price weights as much as the mirror and does RGB and CCT with indexes of 95 and higher. Also it overcomes all of the weak points he was mentioning with regular fresnel lights. So yeah pretty stupidly expensive. $5,700 plus tax + shipping for one mirror. GTFO.
I will sait until Neewer makes a clone of these reflectors.
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The controlled diffusion can be replicated with a grid. Same as preventing a spill. Also an acrylic mirror with matte film can replicate the same thing. This reflector he showed us is $5,700 on their website, bad price point for any price at any level. This guy sounds to me like a con artist.
'Look how soft this light is...' HARD SHADOW HARD SHADOW HARD SHADOW
It's softish, definitely wraps, and does have fall off. I'm very interested in these 'units'. Just making fun of the salesmanship and HARD pitch lol
don't ask the model of the light you are missing the entire point of the product