Samurai Jack: Becoming A Warrior - Detail Diatribe
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
- We inverted a Trope Talk, and wound up with this. It's a brand new show! Taking deep dives into specific scenes from the media we love. First up: the training montage from the Samurai Jack Premiere Movie.
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Red and blue: NOOOOOOOOOOO DON'T MAKE US MARKETABLE PLUSHIESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Detail Diatribe: I think I will
I want them to be actual stitched ragdolls with button eyes and wool hair. Raggedy Red and Blue
@@ojrmk1 pls don't give r/TIHI any ideas
Can confirm. Would buy this.
@@ojrmk1 I want that so much.
“Marketable Plushies”
Those look like voodoo dolls.
I don't know what's better: Blue and Red as dolls on the chair or Cleo just adorably napping on the floor! XD
I like people with long brain. I have long amount of disl*kes btw. Why? Maybe people with short brain disl*ke because jealous of my long amount of subscr*bers. Please have long brain, dear ab
This deserves to be the top comment on this video.
I go with Cleo
Alright...guess I’m gonna have to animate Cleo pawing a panicked Red and Blue plush now
The answer is yes
finally, an opportunity to talk about the justice league cartoon exhaustively
I did not expect to see you here not hearted nor pinned with so few likes
YES ABSOLUTELY
Also, Red can talk endlessly about how much she loves Thor, God of Thunder (and Ham Acting) from Avengers - Earth's Mightiest Heroes
I absolutely love Thor in EMH. Rewatched it recently and man does he get the “Nuclear Option” treatment in season 2.
Would you say for an.... unlimited amount?
So this series is basically just gonna be Red & Blue fawning over their favourite shows, and I'm all for that.
Amen.
oh if you want an example of how ridiculously adaptable Jack is, he gets turned into a chicken, gets put into a monster fighting ring & he STILL kicks ass
...yeah, I love that technically his name is just "Samurai dude"
Yeah, jack in the pilot episode is just used as slang for 'man'.
Another genius decision of the pilot is how it establishes that Jack absolutely can destroy Aku in a direct fight, thus giving a perfect explanation as to why the all-powerful main antogonist sends armies of disposable minons after the hero instead of showing up to crush him peraonally.
@Tin Watchman They even make fun of it one episode.
@@justinalicea1590 currrse you Akuuuuuuuuuu!
@@WrensthavAviovus I'll get you next time, samurai! Yooooooouuuuuu'llll seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!
There's even an episode all about this in the 4th season! It had my favorite fight scene in the whole series (well 2nd favorite. Jack verses the daughters of Aku in season 5 was amazing)
@@rlowellm Do u know the episode name or season/Episode number of that episode?
the overall lack of dialogue makes The Scotsman so much better as a character. He's like a special treat whenever he shows up.
Genndy Tartakovsky: I fear no man. But that thing... "Looks at the Scotsman" it scares me.
@@excusezmoi9823
*BAGPIPES INTENSIFY*
Right? The perfect foil to a quiet, stoic wanderer: a boistrous companion who never shuts up. (And his unstoppable badass wife.)
I love the first fight between the two: When Jack uses the "thundering bull strike" or something like that, which is a sword breaking technique, and he's all surprised when it doesn't work. I expected to be the typical line of "I'm stronger and shit" but no. The strike worked, but the Scotsman had a trick of his own.
CELTIC MAGIC!
"oh, a new osp series about fiction, nice"
*Blue starts talking*
"WHAT BIZARRE PARALLEL UNIVERSE IS THIS?"
One where 2 small dolls on a chair talk about their opinion on media.
@@draegonspawn5361 that also threw me off lol
With the cat just napping
RIGHT?
Jack's parents were genre savvy and their entire plan was to make him the most protagonist-y protagonist to try and ensure Aku's defeat, lol
Also - YES. This is what I've wanted since starting to watch trope talk
Jack is rather unique among protagonists because hes a force of nature protagonist. Just as Aku is a force of nature(Evil Ham), Jack is Force of Nature(Lawful Good), and its sumarized very elegantly how much he really is that force of nature in the premiers. in Becoming a Warrior, Jack needs preparation and an army to slay an army of beetleborgs.
50 years later in universe with the S5 premier, Jack is able to completely solo an entire army for the Emogi Aliens, and has traded up from 6 legged horse to The Murdercycle, his kimono for full armor, and has become sufficiently buff that he can literally onehand a high-velocity Gatling cannon
They were so genre savvy that they were probably hoping to make his childhood and adolescence so interesting and varied that the story would build his character arc around THAT- using each new place as a new chapter and season, allowing coming back to fight Aku to be the big climax of the story. They didn't anticipate that Aku had an even MORE interesting and dramatic story premise hidden in his box of tricks, with which he re-framed their plans as a mere training montage for the actual shenanigans in store for Jack. They got out-narrative'd.
I just realised that Jack is actual proof of the 'Old Man Henderson' from Call of Cthulhu works. His backstory has so much stuff packed into it that they could claim he had knowledge to do just about anything that people just accept it.
That is a horrifying realization, but true
@@tympestbooks1727 "Part of it was written in stage direction. A section was in grammatically flawless german. The author doesnt speak the language. It was 3000 pages long, and on being prompted to publish it, he claimed to have burned it. That thing was evil."
I guess to combat the elder gods you just have to pen the necronomicon.
@@ineednochannelyoutube5384 Best I remember it was an evil enough bit of backstory work to make the GM essentially flip the table and leave, penning the Necromonicon indeed.
This also applies to Conan which technically takes place in the same universe as lovecrafts works. That dam barbarians done everything from banditry, thief work, mercenary work, piracy and running a nation state.
@@vonfaustien3957conan the barbarian takes place in the Cthulhu mythos?
It’s funny. As a kid I could have sworn that there was more dialogue, but when I rewatched it as an adult I realized that the show is a masterclass is ‘show, don’t tell’.
Genndy Tartakovsky was always very good at that.
@@HenshinFanatic Cartoonnetwork: We must make all our cartoons 10 minute long slapstick gagfests.
Genndy Tartakovsky: But what if unsurpassed Masterpiece where the main character has less words of dialogue then the main villian's opening narration will. Oh also it will last 5 season,
@@F14thunderhawk Don't forget, the 5th season's gotta come after 12 years of hiatus ;)
@@BlazingRoman and no one will seriously complain.
@@lordfelidae4505 The ending was kind of a kick in the nads though.
The sassiness of doll Red putting her doll arm on the arm of that armchair proved that most of Red's personality was imbued within her doll.
Is there any doubt that they are Horcruxes?
Sweet, liches: the coolest of the living dead
@@MajorRibcageIII Archliches, actually, because those aren't all evil
Oh no!! Red and blue have become marketable plushies!!
Not gonna lie, I'd totally buy 'em.
I was gonna say, "Ohno Cleo's become marketable" but she probably always was.
Ill take 12
Quickly, we must need to go on a hero's quest to find a Macguffin to return them to their animated forms!
@@patrickcollantes4588 same
I love how it’s normally the villain that is taken down by an extensive monologue but this time it was the hero
?
@@cyberhonk2999 If Jack had just shut up and killed Aku before being thrown into the future, there would have been no series.
This has left me desperately wanting an epilogue episode or even two parter that explores Jack's acclimation to life without Aku. The PTSD from over 50 years of death traps and assassins. The debilitation of having his formative years stolen So he could be forged into the ultimate weapon. The inevitable sense of emptiness that swiftly follows monumental achievement. The culture clash of being permanently stuck in his own time. The grief of losing Ashi only amplified by feeling like he is facing all of this alone. You could slide any half dozen combinations of the laundry list of psychological traumas that are going to plague him. And with Genndy having polished his style to a diamond shine This could be an absolute tour de Force without bringing back any of the original voice cast.... I miss Mako.
I like to think of Jacks epilogue as a much more peaceful end. A life spent learning lesson,. After lesson. After lesson. I’d like to see Jack in the old mentor role. Teaching, but also smiling and enjoying peace. He’s spent so much of his life somber, I think his being able to enjoy the peace he fought for would truly be the sign that Aku was defeated.
AND ALSO?! Would he still be unaging immortal?! How would he deal with that ON TOP of all the other stuff you listed?! Yeah, i wanna see this too now...
@@alexandercandicedad1355 Supposedly, the immortality had to do with the Time Portal. When Jack finally went back to the past with Ashi and beat Aku, he made it so that he never *went* to the future, which means he never went through the portal and never became immortal. If he were to remain immortal, I’d imagine they’d have to keep Ashi alive as well, given that she both was part demon and went through a time portal herself.
The videogame gives him a happy ending.
@@jackofclubs6229 but that’s still the version of Jack who went through time travel in the first place. If the other Jack is still running around in that time, THAT Jack would probably still age and die, but considering OUR Jack still clearly retains his memories of going into the future and all of that by the end, we would have to assume that he still is unanchored by time’s normal effects. Jack might still be immortal on the property that all of the events that took place in the series did still happen to THAT Jack
I love samurai jack so much.
Fun fact: for a long time, jack was such a common nane that it became another word for "man". Hence "jack of all trades"
Does that mean he’s technically Samurai Man?
@@helenaariniello3180 yes. Yes it does
@@helenaariniello3180 almost literally, when he appeared in the future some guys started saying stuff like "that was cool jack" being jack like "dude" or "man"
Jack of all blades.
When red stuttered at the beginning when saying "going according to the plan" I can't help but to think that she was resisting the urge to make a keikaku joke
indeed, all according to keikaku.
My exact same thought 😂
According to cake.
@@drawapretzel6003 she already did in her last video and she probably has quota
Keikaku note: Plan means translator
Red's plushie blended into the chair and i didn't realize she was there
This is all Blue’s fault for not introducing her.
As a colorbind, it was even worse for me. Lol
wait, there was a chair there? it blended in so perfectly with Red because all i saw was her
And Cleo
Took me moment to spot her plushie too
One of the things I remember from watching as a kid is when he first arrived in future land, he’s greeted by three guys going “yo, Jack, you just fell from the sky, Jack. What’s up with that?” And then at the end of the episode when someone asks his name, he flashes back those guys calling him Jack, and then claims that as his name.
When my son was 3 years old, he could recite the entire intro in Aku's voice. We shared it every week.
I am fully convinced this was prompted by Indigo preventing them from going off on tangents during the podcasts
is Indigo Red’s brother or one of their friends?
@@anonymousfellow8879 Indigo is their editor
@@nehb1332 aka: blue's sister
There's an Indigo??? I only know of Cyan! 😱😅
@@faizahmohammedaruwa boy, you should really listen to the podcast, it's on spotify and itunes i think, you should probably listen ro it while doing certain chores or maybe grinding in certain videogames.
The fact that I'm only just know learning his name isn't Jack, when it makes so much sense his name wouldn't be Jack, is very upsetting to me.
Then who the heck is "Jack" in "Samurai Jack"? Please I need to know.
@@robbieaulia6462 it's a nickname
@@robbieaulia6462 there were some like hooligan kids who just kept calling him jack as soon as he got to the future.
They jacked him from his time
I believe the Jack is short for 'jack of all trades'. Because duh
I dont care what series they make, just hearing Red and Blue talk makes my Fridays infinitely better
Well if you haven't already you should watch (listen to) the podcast if you have't already
@@sadnessofwildgoats oh I have, i look forward to it every other week, again just listening to them talk about remotely anything makes me happy
Agreed. Hearing them talk makes my day, whether it be the podcast or the Friday upload.
I re-listen to them when I need to fall asleep because they're so relaxing.
Big mood
I'm totally on board for the signoff on this series being "UH, BYE" to complement trope talk's "so yeah"
I love the fact the opening inciting incident battle + the training montage/Jack growing up is basically a modern symphonic story in the vein as _Peter and the Wolf._ Every character and local has its own musical theme." Heck, the entire opening battle you can go "Ah yes, here are the wood blocks. These are the instruments of the Emperor's soldiers" and then go "Ah, but here comes the bells/metal plate percussion! That's Aku's instrument, so this must be where he counter attacks!"
And frankly, I love that you guys brought this up. Sound often doesn't get as much love as visuals when it comes to media, so thank ya for bringing it up!
i love that cleo shows her supremacy by being larger than both dolls combined
Well she is a kaiju so it makes sense
@@juanmiguel3301 that’s my new favorite headcanon omg
@@eski5084 well Indigo and Blue said it on the pod so is not that much of a headcanon as just canon au
@@juanmiguel3301 ahhhh gotcha
Yes
I was too distracted by little Cleo on the floor, I may have to watch through this multiple times lol
did you see the
"where soup?" then?
@@zeeb2190 at the soup store
"Could be Hobbin Rood"
Ah, yes, the good friend of Herlock Sholmes
And Drathan Nake
@@eye4340 and Chaster Mief
@@TAP7a And Amus Saran
Hodd Toward
rob boss
Admit it everyone remembers: "you can flyyyyyy?!?!?" "No jump good" *Le sword slash*
Hey, red! Trope talk suggestion for you; "The noodle incident" or "Noodle incidents" are a literary tool that gives more literary weight to an event or mcguffin than a description would, mostly by context and the reader's imagination.
Named because of a short series of Calvin and Hobbes comics wherein everyone at school gives the eternally frustrated 6-year-old grief about something he did in the past that is now known only as "The noodle incident." It is hinted at vaguely many times, but the writer ultimately leaves it up to your imagination; which is a strength because whatever the audience dreams up will be way more literarily impactful (in this case funny) than anything he could write down. And that's not even the only time that comic uses a noodle incident, see, there's this kids book calvin always wants read called "Hampster Hewwy and the Gooey Kablooey" and Now I'm ranting.
Another instance this trope is used is in an S.C.P. story wherein a certain slime MUST NEVER come into contact with a human corpse. Why? That's classified. A foundation researcher files the suggestion to test the slime on a human corpse because it's never listed what happens, only that it is a V E R Y bad idea, and the researcher is curious. He gets demoted and heavily scolded by an O-5, who states "Just don't."
A "Noodle Incident" is a rare trope that involves telling the audience that something exists or happened, but not telling them what it was, in order to give the plot point more narrative weight than a description would give it, partly because of the imaginations of the audience. It is a great trope that I think you should cover.
I wonder if "The Noodle Incident" can be said to apply directly to characters as well. For example, the Teen Titans animated series never goes into any detail regarding the true identities and backstories for the villains Slade and Red X, or similarly Robin's past with Batman (not even mentioning him by name during the entire series) or the accident that made Cyborg into a cyborg. At most we are given a few vague hints for all of them.
Supposedly, the creators of the series did this because they wanted to keep the show as accessible as possible for anyone watching. Whatever you imagine Slade looks like under the mask, whatever you imagine his backstory is, it feels like it adds a lot of intensity to his character because you don't know for sure.
I'm glad you brought up scp because it reminded me of procedure 110-montauk, which is implied to be horrific but necessary to prevent the apocalypse. By not saying what it is, they let it stay horrific in the reader's mind.
One of the best examples I can think of for this is the clone wars mention from the original "Star Wars" where Luke is impressed that Obi Wan fought in the clone wars but its never explained what the clone wars were... obviously it later got explained by later movies but at the time it fit this trope perfectly.
I read this and it brought me to realize just by the name that it’s a trope, in World of Horror, a horror indie game there’s a mission called the noodle incident and that and the implication that something is very very genetically wrong with the meat they use and that’s that. No further explanation because just the breadcrumbs will lead you to something much more meaningful than an actual answer. Good recommendation!
This is just like that jockstrap incident, only now Ginyu's not around to dig the holes...
I can't wait for the inevitable 3 hour long diatribe about A:TLA
me either!
I'd watch all 3 hours. OSP got me to watch it and I'm very glad I did.
I'd definitely watch that.
It's not THAT good. Don't get me wrong, it's good. But it's not the greatest show ever.
Considering it seems to come up in every trope talk? Absolutely happening.
"Jack never falls for the same trick twice."
Well, other than Aku's catfishing.
I mean to be fair did Jack know that Aku could transform into something that didn't have his demon face on it?
@@excusezmoi9823 True. But in the (admittedly non-canonical) comics, Aku hit him with a catfish a second time, which I find funny. And Ashii sort of counts. Like 2.5 catfishes.
@@aidanklobuchar1798 Yeah but ones non canon and the other is technically not Aku and was something even he didn't know about so I don't count it.
"If I had a nickel for every time I was catfished by a shape shifting evil, I would have two nickels. That's not a lot, but it's funny how it happened twice."
@@bush2239 Ah! I see your a man of culture.
What it says on the Samurai Jack clips: "This video is a DCMA minefield. I had to recut and reupload this 9 times before it worked. Unfortunately the solution was jumbling the video and throwing text on the screen. Sorry :("
Thanks
CURSE YOU OVERACTIVE COPY RIGHT!!!
So weird that copyright strikes are handled by these mindless bots that strike mindlessly even in situations where rationally there would be no need for them to strike, and yet which can be fooled by scrambling content j u s t enough (which porn producers have learned to use to their advantage).
Also _WHERE SOUP?_
@@generalzeta7000 baa
If red and blue do atla for this series it’s gonna be an hour long
Absolutely
Only an hour? That'd be so disappointing
@@killerbee.13 would it be better if it was one hour per scene?
@@SovereignwindVODs Now, that'd require its own entire podcast
if you are looking for a similar video about ATLA and its cultural influences, Xiran Jay Zhao has three great videos about it!
17:34
Jack: "I can't do it! I can't do it!"
Monk: "No no no but like, consider this, what if you GOT GUD"
😂😂😂
Fifty years have passed, but I do not age. Time has lost its effect on me. Yet the suffering continues.
Aku's grasp chokes the past, present and the future. Hope is lost.
Got to get back --back to the past. Samurai Jack.
i think you should keep the panicked “UHH, BYE!!” as a sign-off for this show
Agree
Blue: Well how do end this?
Red: PANIC!
Yeah, it's kind of endearing how, despite doing verbal content for several years now, Red still can't close out an episode to save her life. In the podcast, she's given a script and _still_ routinely struggles with the sign-off.
I think is should be Red's giggle
You know what that whole training montage is an example of? It's an example of the Establishing Character Moment. And honestly, that is a freaking great subject for a future Trope Talk. Because there is so much material there to go over. How one assembles such a moment. What makes an ECM good? What can make an ECM hit wrong? And even how screwing with an ECM retroactively can alienate fans or cause a revolt in your fanbase. (Yes that last one is a reference to "Han Shot First.")
Samurai Jack is one of those series isn't afraid to occasionally be just completely bonkers, and yet makes complete sense when you watch it. Really glad that it still holds up.
Blue saying something agreeable and red semi-awkwardly saying "Yeeaah" is such acute dynamic
I just realized they call him Samurai Jack because he is a jack of all trades.
What is he also a mechanic, a chef, maybe even a wizard?
@@excusezmoi9823 he'd probably have a montage for all those if the writers wanted to.
What makes it more awesome is that Jack becomes the Master of All by Season 5
As far as I remember he gets randomly tagged as "Jack" by the first character he meets when he arrives in the future...
@@excusezmoi9823 I mean, have you seen how he knows perfectly well how to dismantle all those machines? he at least understands that much mechanics... also, I think he cooks for himself, and his sword is pretty much magical, given how it cuts through pretty much anything without a dent, so he would be at least a lvl 1 sorcerer casting "magical weapon" all the time
And then Genndy accomplished what he wanted with Primal: a whole show without dialogue
Hazbin had a fandom BEFORE the pilot dropped
@my spirit digimon is rareraremon what the hell are you talking about
@my spirit digimon is rareraremon god damn furries
What the fuck happened in the replies?
@@hailghidorah2536 I have no god damn idea what this dude is on
CN:okay gennedy we need a simple pilot for your new series so dont worry about it too much
GENNEDY TARTOVSKY: We'll start off with the fall of a kingdom, follow it up with a captain planet training montage then end off with a parody of The Seven Samurai with talking dogs
CN: . . . Fund it!
CN: Gennedy, I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship.
Jack is still becoming a warrior after he's sent to the future, like when he learns to Mario jump.
He also finished his education is terms of putting into practice what he learned, combining different types of training and lessons, just to survive in hyper-lethal situations.
Just going on with Jack's adaptability.. That montage shows that racism would never be too much of a barrier, as he fought with literally everyone, and has learned respect with them all
I mean it helps that his dad is the emperor of Japan. It's more or less implied they spent a long time coming up with this backup plan too. That and they all know what will happen if they don't train jack. That sword is made for a Japanese person so it's only logical another Japanese person takes up the mantel if his father fails.
I just realized something: a Japanese dude gets transported to a different world than his own, goes on one adventure after another where he always comes out on top, and is on a quest to defeat a demon lord.
Samurai Jack is an isekai.
Why would you say something so controversial yet so brave?
Tsundere: “Creeper! Pervert! Baka!”
Jack: “I knocked, clearly announced myself, and waited for a response before entering. You are being unreasonable.”
He also gets a Tsudere waifu in the last season.
I mean technically its the same world just a little older
@@excusezmoi9823 some isekai are like that though. Not all of them follow the hard rule that it must be strictly a different world.
Hey just a warning for those who deal with epilepsy: there’s a clip in samurai Jack where Jack is thrown in a portal that’s made of black & white swirls, and while he’s in there his color pallette RAPIDLY flashes black & white. The clip is shown a couple times in the first half of the video. here's the timestamps:
1:19-1:36
7:53-8:04
12:13-12:23
good man 👌🏽👌🏽
I just realized how lucky Jack is that Aku attacked when he did. I mean, it is super messed up that Jack's entire life was thrown into chaos and battle. But, if Aku had attacked when Jack was older, he wouldn't have had time to get all the training he needed to eventually defeat him.
Nah I'm pretty sure the emperor was planning to have Jack be trained at a certain age regardless if Aku breaks out or not. If he doesn't break out in Jack's time, Jack will have to do the prep for his child to face Aku. If Aku actually came out when Jack was an adult, Jack might've been an even more dangerous adversary because his dad could've taught him more about battle strategies.
@@harukonoe4248 I agree, I don’t think Jack’s father was going to wait until Aku returned start his training
I adore this. Yes you should do it again. The little plush Blue and Red make it seem like a Toy Story situation where the plushies are trying to immitate the real things and are doing an amazing job.
Your viewers DEMAND that Red Blue and Cleo plushies be made, marketed, and sold to us so that we may buy them
Cleo Cameo!
**Checks off Bingo Card**
I want a Toy story spinoff where the Red and Blue Plushie goes on an adventure with Cleo
This needs to be the new OSP movie tangent on the next podcast.
I really like the idea of this new series
I absolutely love this new segment you guys came up with. It really helps from a writing perspective when you look into popular media like this and say "This, this and this work and here's why"
Hes called jack. Because hes a jack of all trades. He picks up *everything*
I really love this new concept of a deep dive into a single example. And choosing Samurai Jack's pilot for the first episode, when it is about the origin story and time travel is just perfectly fitting.
So is this a Trope Talk or History Talk?
OSP: _Yes_
So glad you guys are doing this! Can’t wait for the Avatar episode ;)
"episode"
If it's not a full length movie there will be blood.
@@ladytalksalot4097 Their bending will be taken away.
And Ozai will have enslaved them.
I thought the same thing!
Yeah, "episode", more like 100 of them.
You think there'll only be one episode? Avatar has _so_ many details guys.
Red AND Blue talking about cool series in a podcast style and less scripted interactions? That's MADNESS!
Where do I sign a lifetime subscription to this kind of content?
They have a podcast dude. Overly sarcastic podcast on Spotify
I love this so much, because not only is it a great episode, the improv-ish nature of it really highlights the fact that you're both enjoying making the video
Samurai Jack is perfection and a great topic to start this off. In a time when networks are trying to limit what animation should be, Samurai Jack remains a prime example of how far animation can and should go. That animation is not just a 30 minute distraction for small kids, but an art form that can be appreciated for all ages and can bring into adulthood.
Samurai jack can tell a whole story without words... I remember when i was young i somehow instinctively knew the meaning of most episodes, like the ninja fight... God the ninja fight... Its by far the most amazing episode imo.
It seriously was and still is ☺️✨
Another point on the training, Jack only fought honorable opponents. He was never trained on deceit.
Isn't deceit like Robin Hood's whole deal? You know, dressing up like a begger or traveler and robbing highway nobles?
Yet he learn fast on using his enemies deceit. Remember the divorced bounty hunters episode? Jack got them off the train by counting on the ex-wife to doublecross her former husband.
@@floricel_112 Robin Hood is still a decent person though. He wouldn't teach something truly immoral like backstabbing someone, or setting lethal traps and gotchas.
What I love about the early training scenes is how it molded Jack to be a citizen of the world, not just Japan. He was exposed to all these different cultures and peoples at such a young age, one were the prejudices of the world haven’t set it. I feel it’s the center of why even when aku is persecuting odd creatures he’s never met, he still feels “these are PEOPLE! No matter their odd apparently to me.” Jack never failed to draw his sword in defense of the innocent, often times self sabotaging him self, for what’s RIGHT
Yeah, I think that is generally the mythos of a noble warrior. The Perfect warrior. Given his journey and purpose, to understand at a young age that as he travels to learn from different people to gain different skills. Everyone had something to teach him.
Like, I know normally Red and Blue are just still frames, but it still feels weird not being able to "see" the speaker when you're both dolls
I was born in the late 90s and only vaguely remember watching random episodes of the show on cartoon network as a kid. For the life of me, I dont ever remember seeing the pilot, any the training montage, or even the set up of how Jack ended up in this future. Everything makes so much more sense now lmao.
The fact that Red remembers Quest for Camelot makes me so happy. That movie isn't high art or anything, but it's a real staple of my childhood and I remember most of it
Oh this series has loads of potential! Red's mentioned that she's a fan of The Magnus Archives a few times, and I've always wanted to hear more of her thoughts on what she likes about the show.
Not to mention that I listened to it because of her, so I wanna leave some comments too
Yea I found the Magnus Archives because of Red, I would like to hear her talk about it sometime.
Just a headcannon that Red and Blue got turned into plushie and Red just said “Wanna talk about Samurai Jack!?” Then Blue respond “Yes!”
Note: Plushies of Red and Blue would be the coolest and most adorable thing ever
Yeeeeeeees I looooove everything about this. The more casual tone, the both of you working on something together (I know you have before this is just the one so far that has stuck with me) the discourse,everything! Pleeeeeeeease keep doing these
The first time I wake up before an OSP video premieres and its my favorite show. Life is good.
I like to imagine you’re in the room on screen just chilling out, and you’re over hearing this conversation from the next room over.
As a kid I never knew the pilot was the pilot episode. I always just thought it would was a special in the middle of a later season because I had never seen it before and I thought the intro monologue was all the show needed.
Same
Y'know, that says a lot about how effective that monologue is at setting up the pitch without someone needing to watch the pilot.
@@cayden6057 yeah I thought episode were Jack fought horde of dead warriors is first episode
as a fan of both history and literature im really grateful for you guys finally doing a red and blue episode thank you for everything guys keep it up
I just realized throught the whole training montage we dont see Jack learn actual japanese sword fighting for the Japanese sword he would rely on for MOST of the rest of his life.
because while kendo, aikido, and iajitsu are specialized to the weapon, his HEMA training and his later Xiao Lin training would get him about 99% there and actually be more dangerous with the weapon.
He also play fights with a toy sword when aku arrives. He may have received katana training before that or at the summit when he is gifted the magic sword.
You never know what's going to happen you have to prepare for anything, like a Time-Portal.
Samurai learned how use the sword by age 3 and by age 5 used a live blade. He probably had the basic down and had some extra training when he makes it back to Japan by his mother and the monks.
@Noob7Zilla yeah it was sort of always my head canon that the magic sword is basically the japanese katana equivalent of Excalibur, in that so long as the wielder is worthy of the sword it pretty much guarantees victory as long as the wielder doesn't abuse the power. That's how I was always able to make sense of Jack going up against bad guys with missles and machine guns and energy weapons and somehow still winning; even though nothing in his training could have prepared him for going up against technologically superior foes. Then season 5 pretty much confirmed my head canon when Jack loses the sword because he used it out of wrath and harmed an innocent with it.
A young protagonist suddenly thrust into tragedy, circumstances pushing him away, to travel the world, learning martial arts and training his mind and body, to one day return and save Gotham City.... I mean, fight Aku... yup, yup
Thats not the same thing at all. Bruce did all of that for his own gains, and he didn't have to. He could've sat on his but and continued to be a rich womanizer without a care in the world. Jack had to do all of those things otherwise he would lose and die to Aku
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Plot-wise, it’s the same trope.
Clearly the next episode of Detail Diatribe will be about B:tAS.
Sooo.... the call to adventure?
@@dargossss I wouldn't call it a 'call to adventure', that would be something like the Gulliver's travel or Sindbad. This is more like a journey to find teachers to learn from, train yourself and return, prepared for the final confrontation
I'm just waiting for cleo to wake up and steal one of the plushies
Jack's beginning is very SuperBatman-esque, but even in its tragedy his arc's culmination rewards him the restoration of his shattered world.
I am the night, I am JackMan.
I have silently been waiting for this series and I am so happy this is here. I love hearing people talk about things that they enjoy.
I love this show, the chance for a full dissection of scenes with two of my favorite content creators. I have never known i needed something so bad until I had it.
1000 years later and the tale of X9 is still one of my favorite episodes in cartoon history. Poor lulu
They got Lulu... sweet thing. I have no choice. I came out of retirement.
@@Stray7 when you're waiting for that team up rescue scene and you hear jack's blade... The robot hits the floor and says "Lulu... take care of lulu" and that's it the episode ends. See you next week kids!
I really love seeing more content with red and blue just talking about stuff they love.
Yeah same, as much as I like cyan and indigo I've missed Red and Blue interacting just the two of them
Whenever I'm stressed out over a project now and fear imminent failure, I'll give myself a motivational "have you considered gettin' gud?"
I'm not 100% sold on the podcast format but the actual video content and series concept are stellar!
I really appreciate the polish that goes into the normal Trope Talk videos (and for that matter everything else except livestream/podcast stuff that isn't really my thing anyway) so seeing a deep-dive like this in that style would be absolutely the best thing ever. Obviously that would take a lot more work than approaching it this informal way, so I entirely get if that isn't a possibility, and frankly I'll watch this either way. Good to see you experimenting with your channel and finding cool new ways to use your concept!
A format where i can just nick along and go "yeah! yeah!" to everything red and blue say about details in great cartoons? YES, PLEASE!
I definitely don't mind the "Detail Diatribe" about a cool example you've used.
I am now eagerly awaiting what you'll do with Avatar: The Last Airbender show!
Ooh, new series, cool! I’m really loving the fact that red and blue are bringing some of that OSPod/stream energy to the main channel content.
Red: “the pilot is usually tollerated at best.”
Me: *thinking about how hazbin hotel Got a giant fandom from the pilot alone.
I think a lot of its appeal is that many (me included) hear about it off handedly and go into it expecting a generic amateur youtube OC video. And while it is in way, its surprising how much effort was put into that you wouldn't expect from a youtube video. And underneath all the somewhat oddly designed charters and crude humor, I felt like there was actually real plot potential.
And the show itself will likely end up being all kinds of lit.
@@MartinG1993 i can’t help but agree. Everything about it is captivateing. It is obvious that the shows theme is, what makes a person good and what makes someone evil. Which is actually interesting in itself because everyone has diffrent answears. However, the characters does a lot too. Charlie has a likable personality, and a strong goal. She also seems to be the one of the few Nice people in hell, so it is interesting to see, why she is so diffrent from everyone else. Angel dust is plain fun, but it is clear his past is tragic and that there are things we dont know about. Of course alastor is there too, and he seems to be milles of interesting. Why does vagie not trust him? Why did he wanna help out at the hotel?(Lets be real, it’s more then just to have fun) and how did he get so powerfull? And Those are only the characters where we know more then just their personality. It just seems like the show is gonna be an absolute blast, and i can’t wait to see it.
Hazbin is not a standart prodution my dude, if you want check some random seasonal anime(expecially older, this season is kinda banging) and you will see that most of the time the pilot usually doesn´t carry the essence of the show at all, or is the only good episode of some shows
*cries in clone wars*
*happy bad batch noises*
Good format. Hearing you talk about a single topic that you've chosen, but relatively unscripted is a good addition to the channel. More please.
I'd love to see another similar deep dive like this exploring Disney's Gargoyles.
I believe that one alien in MIB said it best when asking for sugar water: MORE
Do you mean the same man that helped with the 2003 animated Clone Wars, which gave us a reason to fear Mace Windu, not just for his voice or lightsaber prowess, but also for his Force-enhanced fisticuffs?
It *broke my heart* when Tartakovsky's Clone Wars was utterly retconned...
And the same guy who gave us the several flavors of badass that was animated Grevious.
Shame that he wasn't cooler in clone wars.
Heck yea!
A 20 minute video talking about one of the greatest cartoons ever made. I’m into it.
Thoroughly enjoyed it! I generally enjoy the trope talks and having the opportunity to do a deeper dive makes things more interesting :) Thanks for the great content!
I actually really enjoy this! Getting an in-depth look at a particular piece of media is still very in-character for this channel, and it fleshes out what Trope Talks sometimes can't.
Absolutely agree, always fun to see Trope Talks mention or discuss an example show but it's even cooler to see Red and Blue go into detail about why it's relevant and well done.
I really loved the scotsman! The rivals turned friends is one of my favorite tropes. And to think how he's almost an equal to Jack while not being trained by the best of the best. Also his love of his wife is adorable!
I love this so much. Samurai Jack is one of my literal most favorite shows I grew up on it and he was even my first Halloween costume that I remember
Your little giggles as you struggle to end the episode were so amazing, I think i'm gonna like this series
For the love of god do more of this. As much as i love scripted content, this relaxed talking between friends on something you both love is so fun and intresting to listen to.
Also my favirote part of Samuri Jack is when he breaks the portal to free the archers instead of useing it to go back in time. Its such a pointless act since he could just go back in time to stop it from ever happening, but jacks such a paragon that he breaks it without a second thought. That show is so awesome!
A good new discussion format and a STRONG show to start with. I really think you guys should do more.