Rivals: Ford Mustang GT350R vs. Dodge Viper ACR vs. Porsche GT3 RS
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- Опубліковано 25 гру 2016
- We put the Ford Mustang GT350R against the Dodge Viper ACR and Porsche GT3 RS. We've got gobs of horsepower, tons of torque and plenty of burnt rubber. Three track monsters go at it on the circuit and the drag strip, but only one can take the checkered flag.
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If you wanted one for the track, but also for daily use, which would you choose?
Roadshow it would definatly be the Porsche, but I'm a ford man at heart and really like the mustang.
It would be the Porsche again another Ford guy converted 😰😒
The viper.
Any Gt3 Porscha. Gt2rs is tooo fast. Gt3rs is the sweet spot and the sound is amazing too. Hehe
Viper
Even though I love the GT350R, there is no way it can compete against the ACR. That car is a track monster, these guys are clearly scared of it.
ACR is also twice the price and terrible on public roads.
Is it? Go try to purchase a GT350R and let us know how you make out trying to find one for half of the price of the ACR!
SS OFFSHORE or even trying to find a GT350R period, prepare to wait.
george palacios but the top speed of the acr is 177 mph ...the gt350r is about 200 mph !!!
@SS OFFSHORE it is, the car in the US starts off at like 61k where the viper is at 130k. Yes they are sold in dealerships for 85k-100k but thats not the point.. thats the dealer markup not the Factory price.. it has nothing to do with its ORIGINAL price.. i have a '15 GT, bought at 43k i can offer to sell it for 60k.. thats not the factory price nor its original price but my mark up.. of course no one would buy it as its only an example that i hope u get and not argue just for the sake of arguing.
They were obviously scared to drive the viper ACR to its full potential. ..but I guess it could be scary.....beauty & beast.
This walmart manager said the rear diffuser is a “rear splitter” 😂😂😂😂
LMFAO
best comment ever
She also said it has 562 hp instead of the 526 is actually has lol.
Liked the video, but next time hire a Racecar driver and tell us the times around the track!
V Poje It's easy, Viper is fastest then comes the Porsche and thr GT350R.
There's Motortrend for that.
V Poje we already know the ACR is the fastest by far
Yep. Randy Pobst already proved that.
Check out Motor trend
There should have been a track battle, lap times and all.
Also a shame all 3 drivers are scared of the acr.
LegendInThaMakin - No track battle like you said cuz they are not qualified to drive that ACR hard. We know the ACR is obliterating everything under 250k
Look at this keyboard warrior go. Legend, are you saying you're capable tof driving the ACR at 100%?
zclee No im not, well i dont know, never drove one... but for a true review shouldnt a professional driver be hired?
Jamal BBCLife I wouldn't mind a review from a professional driver before i buy a car though.
which one of these were easiest to drive quickly?
correction, 526hp @1:09
I think they used the prototype numbers. I had been hearing the 562hp many times before the official numbers. Unless ford made a typo or detuned it.
You might be right. But this video was released 12/16. Actual power figures were out way before then. Especially since production started in July of 15.
pohump Yea I know. I was just pointing it out because I've heard it before.
frenchie5k The lady she doesn’t know shit about Shelby 350R
Clearly she has dyslexia. Haha 562
Professional cars and unprofessional drivers= CRINGE
such a gay word
@@arfshesaid4325 Buy a dictionary.
@@JDSFLA ya ok pal, girls used to cringe when they saw a spider idiot, now men apparently do , for everything,
No you’re right. The non British guy kept talking about the seat adjustments which I don’t care about. The lady looks like she just came back from her office job and the British guy sounds like the sixth runner up in the top gear audition.
@@maxwesthoven5819 lmao. Good comment
3 shining examples of great engineering. well done Porshe, ford and dodge.
They were all pretty amazing, even scary at times.
kyle stewart its porsche.........!!!!!! Shame on you ;)....
And there only one example of Great Engineering ......... 911 GT3 RS
@@robitk7152 Yeah, the Porsche is the only one here that shouldnt be here. Those shitboxes dont compare to it..
AKA Zeus shit boxes?? are y’all like some kinda euro fan boys or something!?!?
@@sv.motorsports the viper acr shitbox beat that snoodle noodle porch by nine seconds in porch's backyard Nuremberg. American engineers beat them without even trying, lol. So easy.
Emmy, at 1:10, "GT350 pumping out 562 hp"...??? Really, work on that dyslexia please, it's 526hp.
Leave the old lady alone sheesh
LOL
5.62...her reaction time in the drag race against the ACR
She even said back assward, and don't think she meant it.
The steering on the GT350R is amazing. I don’t know what this guys is talking about! For the money it costs it is the clear winner! You can snap a supercharger on it and it will smoke anything! But I love it just the way it is!
The sound the gt350R makes is just pure awesome!
The Viper just looks menacing, definitely the most racelike car of the three, the GT350R has the best sounding engine, and the Porsche is the overall best car. Money aside however for less than 100k the GT350R is the winner, the Viper wins at being a racecar and the Porsche is just a technical masterpiece. If I had the money, I would have all three in my garage. With that being said, I would rather have the engine transmission and suspension out of the GT350R inside the Viper, the wheel and steering, interior and build quality from of the Porsche
SpyderRios - I would take the engine from Ford, PDK from Porsche with that ACR handling for a lower price Viper
Young Den that would be a beast of car bro question is what body style with all the great features you mentioned would you have it in ? 🤔🤔
SpyderRios of pick the GT350R to own everyday.. it's so special
David Lopez - That's a hard one but if we talking track then the ACR cuz of aero. Road car.. I let you pick that one
the fact that you think a mustang has a better sounding engine than a Porsche gt3rs is funny.
By the way the GT350R was made as an anniversary for the '65 GT350R which got its name because Shelby's test track was 350ft away from where Carol Shelby worked on his cars
So it kinda has a lot to do with Shelby- btw it'd be way better in white with blue stripes
Colds coool info. Thanks!
I have to agree, this woman has no idea what she’s talking about
Good show, but seriously how could you take 3 track-special cars to the track and NOT PRODUCE A LAP TIME???
Why do you guys consistently rely completely on eyeball tests and never post numbers?
bcs of the 3 of them,none are good drivers so track times will be all over the place and meaningless
They could do like Car and Driver and have everyone lap each car, and then post the best lap time for each. It removes the (obvious) bias, and also helps compensate for any individual inability.
OR they could just hire a pro like MT.
The way this should have gone was:
Best Track Racer - Viper ACR
Best fun street car - Mustang GT350R
Best all around - 911 GT3R
Dolby 109 save themselves from bad lap times. They're just commentator not actual professional driver
Dolby 109 and 3 (9)messed up laps mean what?
One would hope that at least one of them would have enough track experience to lay down a halfway decent lap in each car. Even if it isn't as fast as a pro it should at least be consistent and show each cars relative potential.
Besides Gingerman raceway doesn't have many recorded lap times (to embarrass them), such that the Viper holds the top two spots, and the third fastest lap time is a Ford GT...which a modern 1LE Camaro would destroy.
“Rear splitter” it’s called a diffuser lmao
Ok… but splitter sounds pretty cool 😂
Dude that's a GT3 RS the navigation system doesn't even matter!!!
Drilon Ibraimi he's more concerned with the nav systems on track cars.
MrTimeless101 hahaha so true 👍
then why have it as an option?
For $200,000 it damn well should matter. Yeah, I know it's the best car here, but this isn't exactly a fair comparison now, is it? $200k vs $60k?
I absolutely love Porsche's infotainment system (991.1 C2S). My phone connects automatically every time I get in and it's so easy to just connect to Spotify and go. Also, I can set the rightmost gauge to a minimap of the road ahead of me, allowing me to see which turns are coming up and how sharp they are.
good luck finding a GT3 RS for $200k
And also good luck finding a GT350R for $62K. If you're not walking into the dealership ready to write a check for +/-$100K (and then some), you might as well keep walking.
you can find them for MSRP now, the markups are pretty much gone
You can find the standard GT350 w/ Tech Package for MSRP. Nobody is selling the R anywhere near MSRP.
u can't even compare the 3 Cars there in different classes. u should have tested a hellcat challenger then
ForTehNguyen they will not get even a mustsng v6 auto
I don't take brits seriously... I personally would pick the GT350R. Road & Track picked it as 2016 performance car of the year vs. viper, mercedes ,ferrari, bentley, cadillac, corvette, porsche. Might as well mention the very first auction purchase for 0001 production of the GT350R at the Barrett Jackson auction was over $1,000,000. Consumers know what they want regardless of price. Pure enjoyment to drive and it's American. Auto is not even an option.
The steering isn't good on the mustang? yet every other channel that reviewed said it was the best including randy popes who's driven more cars than all of these people combined. i know who's opinion i trust lol.
Right even Doug demuro claims it's on a super car level of handling
Randy Pobst?
They probably had it in casual steering mode instead of sport lol. My mustang changed so much when the steering was in sport mode
Not to mention the person they had drag racing it was cringe worthy off the line
Literally the only thing I've seen race drivers say negatively about the car is it could use another 100HP. These people go on about how fast it is and how it handles "OK". The handling is the singular trademark trait of the car aside from having a giant flat plane crank engine.
The GT350R is a truly special car everyone that drives it says it’s magic
200k vs 60k... hmm!? And mom, get rid of that nose ring. It's not cool anymore!
JUMP23MΔN never was
The point of this testing was to pit three track focused cars against each other and see how they compare and if they're worth their cost.
Yeah that bitch is to old to be skanking around like that.
CPVette to
Agreed. When you're 44 what is it exactly that you're rebelling against? Hillary losing? LOL
Takes track cars to track. Doesn't lap them on a track. Complains about road stuff on TRACK cars. And she sucked at launching the GT350R.
As much a fan as I am of the Viper, it being my favorite car ever, I certainly understand that the Porsche came in on top. That said if I had the money, rather than arbitrarily pick the Viper as my own. I would have to drive the Porsche and Viper ACR back to back before I made the call.
It's a no brainer, the Vieri the last of the "real" drivers car. It's a manual tranny, and both fun and scary to drive. In saying that, it really is a track only car, even though you can drive it on the street.
@@7s29 the acr is a track only car but get srt/gts and it's more manageable then the acr because it's not focused on the track like the acr
This is a lame video. These cars are track specific. You don't buy them for the infotainment system, low noise or stereo quality. 0-60 times have very little to do with track performance. Where are the track times????? Hello? Anybody home??...you have 3 track cars and you don't even race them on the track to whose the fastest around the track??? Ridiculous!!
The Viper has a faster 0-60 than a hellcat soooooooo
agree.
“Side louvers”🤦🏻♂️ who gave her this job
I'd take the GT3RS 100/000 times. That Mustang is impressive, though.
Only die-hard American car fans would be remotely surprised by this result.
So the car that cost $140,000 more than the Mustang, and $60,000 more than the Viper won? Surprising (sarcasm)
They should have used a T/A 2.0 Viper....
has the sound deadening material (quieter)
Much softer suspension 50% as stiff as the ACR but 30% stiffer than the GTS
Smaller wing/less aero so it will do 190 mph.
and has the full stereo, street seats(more comfortable)...since its all that seems to matter to these guys.
Viper is my number one pick
Jaylen Bond In looks maybe. Around a track the gt3 is faster.
SMohinder, on what track??
SMohinder no viper is still faster lol
SMohinder faster lap on the green hill?
@@SMohinder 2016 GT3 RS is not faster than Viper. ACR made in 2016 and 17 so although viper is manual and still faster. 2018 GT3 RS barely broke the Viper's record. ( 2 seconds)
526 hp. Get someone knowledgeable
What's the funniest part of this is the GT350R is only a second off that 200k Porsche on the ring.. can't make up that difference in money
A second?? What were you smoking, Porsche did under 7 min gt350r did a 7:32)...
Brilliant, thank you. Excellent review folks!! That was spectacular!!
whoever launched the Mustang needs to go back to driving school
645 horsepower, 600 lb-ft torque, out of a huge v10 and a manual gearbox. I'll take the Viper.
Dodge Viper: 7:01 Nurembergring lap time
The tall dude: stereo system isn’t that great
Underrated comment. Lol!
Happy to see the Trio together doing multiple reviews. Much more entertaining.
The viper has always been my favorite car 🤗
"We'll hit the track in anger"
*doesn't hit the track at all and complains about the infotainment systems*
Mannnn they let meh down deeper than my dad 15 years ago
Wow. Great content guys, very nicely done.
no one ever thought the winner wouldn't be the porsche. it was a matter of who is 2nd and 3rd.
Try and get one for $62,000 (GT350R).
Then again the GT3-RS sold out and so did the ACR, so they probably go for well above MSRP as well.
Dolby 109 exactly
yeah, they're going for well over 100k in Canada.
thats funny.
not like the GT3RS is marked up to 500k right? oh right it was :p
well folks this people are not quite capable enough. The ACR is the fastest thing on the track in the hands of a professional driver. It has shattered 13 records on numerous tracks (laguna seca, road Atlanta, etc...). Quite an engineering feat by the Dodge boys. The viper is going out of production with a bang. Of course, the other 2 vehicles are quite incredible as well. If you truly are a car enthusiast, you should appreciate all three.
To bad it is slower on the nordschleife
@@woutbuitenhuis7983 That is what I was going to say. Look at Nordschleife lap times. These folks are not good enough drivers for anything but a common motorists opinion.
So we now call suede, Alcantara and everyone gets so excited about it? Suede somehow became the must have premium material.
I like this show amazing factual and not bias. to be honest I know the bloke with the glasses as I have followed him from his car shows from the UK amazing piece of kit. p s all 3 work well together and the glasses suit you bang on. awsome reveue
It’s hard to take this comparison seriously I could get almost 3 mustangs with that one Porsche
Whats the point if the Shelby is not remotely comparable? That is like saying you can get three mustang ecoboosts for the price of the Shelby.
Wow she messed the Shelby's HP number up! It's 526, not 562. Although that would rock! lol
I bought a Viper ACR for the radio said nobody ever... lol 😆
you guys did a really good job on this review, a lot of other youtube channels are boring and not about the cars anynore, keep up good work.
Thank you! Much appreciated.
Would've loved to see some ACR lap times with a professional driver .
It is one of the best in the word, I don't there is a rear wheel drive car that is faster.
I wish i was rich. GT3RS for me
why? that thing isnt close still lol
it isnt what?
but u have a challenger photo lol
Good review keep em coming
Love the editors in this video, can't wait to see more
DO AN EPISODE OF WHAT YOU DRIVE DAILY.
Great video but with 3 track cars you've gotta actually take them around the track and get some lap times to do a proper comparison.
Grusilag Walter Röhrl says the GT3RS is better hes a real race car driver Randy's a B racer at best. I've drive the regular gt350, and the GT3RS that RS is a surgeons scalpel.
@@thof8287 Röhrls whole life has been paid by Porsche. Do you really think he'd say that the GT350R is cheaper than Porsches flagship at that time?
EMME HALL!!! I remember when you did review's for roadfly! sorry, not tryna creep, i just remember watching you in videos when i was in middle school then you vanished, just to now pop up with some of my other favorite hosts, reviewing track monsters. good to see you back on in front of the camera!
" back assward" greatest quote ever
Enjoyed the vid. GT3RS best all around. Viper best on track. GT350R best value.
562hp in the mustang? You guys are terrible at facts. You got the weight wrong for the GS corvette too.
Didn't they say it was some ridiculously light weight?
They also majorly flubbed the stopping distance and implied the Evora out-handled the GS.
Excellent review and cinematography!
theres no way they got the GT350R to do 60mph in 3.5sec. @14:12
viper in 3rd place is a joke. So they review the trackcore versions of these 3 cars then oh the ACR sucks on the road so its third? Makes sense. This is not reviewed by track car merits. Never mind the ACR beats the 911 GT3s and its $800k daddy the 918.
They are not full-on race cars, so they can't be judged by how close to a race car they are. They are still street cars at the end of the day, so they have to take into consideration both their street worthiness and their track capabilities. The GT3RS was overall the most balanced of the three.
there has been no ring time on the Gen 5 ACR. Those times are for the last gen ACR
Well, if you take MT's LS (I think it was LS) track times, both the C7 Z06\z07 pack and the Viper ACR beat the 918's time. Take that for what you will. Also, I think you have to understand that while yes these are track ready cars, they were ultimately made as street cars. So you can't judge a street car solely on track time\usage alone.
Poor GTR fanboy gets butt hurt the Porsche wins
uhhhh the Viper ACR beat the 918 Spyder's lap record at Laguna Seca and Road Atlanta... The Viper ACR is also in the Guiness Book of World Records as having the most track lap records of any production car ever made..
the Viper ACR for me.
N Ebreo In looks yes but in a track fuck no.
SMohinder, What? The ACR is actually the best “Track Car” here
Hey 👋🏻 I like you L
@@SMohinder Are you 12 years old, or naturally this ignorant?
As a GT350 owner I have no complain about losing to GT3. Engine and chassis is just the best. Even it does have MT, i still fall in love with the GT3.
Great clean video
I'd take the Mustang GT350 though.
wow
350R
Love the sound
Can’t compare to these
They can make the 350 almost as a fast as a viper with headers, E85, and a tune. Most 350s picked up 50-60 HP to the tire with just that.
I do find it funny that they make fun of the ACR and praise the Porsche. But on any given track the ACR will be faster eight out of 10 times.
The WanskiZ All the journalists are scared of the Viper, only real race car drivers appreciate it. Definitely not a billionaires car.
Look at Nordschleife track times.
I test drove the gt350 R and man! that thing will throw you back. Definitely perfect car to roll race.
I feel like the GT3 RS is for casual gamings that like to have fun and enjoy their time. While ACR is for the gamer who puts the difficulty on “hardcore” or “one life” and competes for leaderboards.
I''ll take the Flat Plane Crank V8 please
Nick H oh u like unreliable engines? Got ya lmao
If I could comfortably afford either car and decided to buy one as a weekend or "fun" car only, it would be the Viper followed by the GT350R for its look and manual transmission.
rockn roll exactly, people say the viper is unlivable with. Porshe all the way (if I had the money)
Gotta love the soccer mom driving an ACR 😂 THE CONTRAST was hugely entertaining! I would love to drive an ACR around a track just once in my life please… God.
6:50 "the quicker you go, the faster it gets" now this sounded pretty weird lol
All are nice but a Viper ACR is a stone cold Killer amongst entertainers. Love Porsche, but next to the ACR it looks like a Hyena next to a Lion.
Whoever was "driving" the 350R against the Viper in the drag race was sleeping at the wheel good lord
the mustang is a nice swiss army knife, can enjoyably do it all, but not the best at any one thing, cheap and accessible to most people. the GT3 is a lightsaber, pinpoint, perfection, only available to the elite. the viper is a goddamn chainsaw
Horrible comparison, 60 thousand car vs a 200,000 car... You might as well compare a focus to a Mercedes-Benz C class or a BMW 3 series...
Clueless comment - check the specs not the prices then come back.
I know the specs, Its still comparing apples to oranges...You probably still live in yours mommas basement...Im sure she still tucks you in at night.
You don't know the specs, if you did you wouldn't of made an ignorant analogy . Do research, learn about production cars and then come up with relevant analogies. You even screwed up your original comparison - the Focus RS is about the same price as a base Mercedes C class - reading is your friend.
Nick H I think you were just call in the house to wash dishes,calm down and breathe..
Well the GT350R is pretty dam close in performance to the GT3 RS, and all three of these cars are "track day" specials. So I'd say its a fair comparison.
What isn't fair is that they didn't list a lap time...kind of a sin for this comparison in particular.
The outcome was predetermined long before the review began. The GT3 RS won by just being there. It is like the iPhone. Incredibly popular even though it's hopelessly expensive. Everyone who does a comparison test chooses the GT3 RS in the end. Consistently. No matter what. I have yet to see a video where the GT3 RS loses.
YES! some one gets it. It's incredibly frustrating
chillout1109 *cough* GTR Nismo
eddieJDM100 Like I said, I have yet to see a comparison where the testers pick another car and the GT3 RS loses. I personally haven't seen a comparison between the GT3 RS and Nissan GT-R Nismo anywhere yet. If you have a link to such a comparison, pliz supply.
That's a really terrible analogy. The iPhone isn't any more expensive than any other top tier smartphone. And the iPhone is popular because it's a very, very good phone.
The GT3 RS, however, is painfully expensive compared to other cars that can beat it around a track, like the Viper and the Z06.
GT3 RS (and most Porsches for that matter) win because like other brand name products, consumers and reviewers are biased Porschefiles, some without being aware of it. Generally European cars garner more attention and praise when compared to American and Japanese counter parts. Porsche elevates this notion a notch. They are good cars, and worthy of compliment, but that aren't without fault. On the flip side, American cars, like the Viper, have to overcome an enduring, negative bias. It's easier for reviewers to fall back on old truths/stereotypes and consumers drink the Kool aid. I've driven the new gen 5 Viper, it's an easier car to drive, not frightening at all. But see, I don't believe everything I'm told. What we can be sure of is, the ACR outperforms the rs everywhere for less money; it's equally or more rare; and offers a true driver engaging experience. Also we know that the GT350R gives performance equal to the standard GT3 for less money and it sounds better. Really Porsches big win here is the intangible, more subjective qualities it possesses. Because objectively I just don't see it. . . .
Great video!
this one only proves yet again that Power isn't everything, one of the best comparo I've ever watched... Great work Roadshow, only the M4 GTS was missing though 🤔🤔🤔....
Check MotorTrend - the M4 GTS got beat pretty bad by all of the above on Laguna Seca with Randy Pobst behind the wheel.
Nick H thanks Nick... 👍
excellent video!!
the dodge vipa ac arrrrrrrrrr
salmondrin.
Dude from xcar shows what a good car channel can do. Imagine cooley, xcar dude, and one of the motor trend presenters
i cant believe im about to say this, but i prefer the gt350r especially if you shop around for 1 at Msrp, its just super special.....
Got excited when I was this video, then I watched it and decided not to subscribe. Far too many nonsensical complaints for cars only tested on the track. It's like what's good for one car is somehow bad for another ... I don't get it. The Porsche is praised for cutting weight (which they provided manufacturer claims for), yet the Viper cuts weight by removing sound deadening and speakers. Complaints. The GT3 RS interior is alacantra and carbon fiber, but guess what, so is the Viper's. Complaints. The bases Carrera has wind and tire noise, I would only assume this one is equal or worse and yet the Viper is loud? Like I said, I don't get it. Best car out of the bunch is the GT350R for practical reasons. My personal choice and favorite is the Viper. Irl the GT3 RS is a $300k car and then whatever stupid options Porsche charges you extra for. All 3 are exclusive, with the GT350R going for double MSRP. The Viper can be had with an upgraded H&K 12 speaker option, added sound deadeding, and the shifting is easy, but I will say the visibility will definitely be a problem for tall drivers. The Porsche is probably the most technological car of the three and achieves a lot with a little, the respect to power. But then the Viper eats $1M car at the track for ~$150k. All three will make any owner happy, I just think this review (just like 98% of all car reviews) is bias and nonsensical. . . . AND HAS NO TRACK TIMES! How tf are you gonna be scared to drive the RS and the Viper? >< grr!
I agree with the final ranking. That's my personal preference as well.
> Oh, rad cars
> Soccer mom pops on the screen 👀
great work
id pick the shelby over the other 2 any day
Porsche for the win!";-)
No comments on the brakes, an important part of any track car
A fresh take on three very different and very exciting cars.
So no Z-28? Yeah I guess that would be embarrassing. I would still pick the Viper it's the prettiest.
Revs to 8800 not 9k.
She got the hp wrong on the GT350R. 562 hp & 429 fp? This should have been about fun for the dollar since no times are included.
Great comparison, my 3 favorite cars hands down.
These are track cars that are suppose to be doing laps around the track not drag racing.
supercharger the gt350 game over and still have money for a house compare to just buying the vw beetle.
lol i love how she said the mustang has nothing to do with shelby when literally he's the one who built the gt350
Haven't watched yet. I'm just here to see if the GT350R can hang.
Everybody loves an underdog!
Unless you're unamerican, THEN you don't like an underdog.