Thanks Lee, however, I think it will be the other end of the cutting that will prove more puzzling. Getting the roadway, and the bridge to look right could be a real challenge. Regards, Charlie
Hi Charlie. While i was watching right after that weird sound that follows after Google or Alexa's voice 😁🤣A similar noise was in my room. 😱 That was weird. I love your humor to. You're are a artist & craftsman. I respect your work on the Chadwick with all the changes & add ons. waiting to see the finished product of this section of your project. Excellent work my friend. 🛤️🏞️ Harold CSX / CN / VIA RAIL CANADA 🇺🇲/🇨🇦
Nice bit of teraforming here Charlie! The great Robert Stephenson is somewhere nodding his approval (and he never had Siri to help him!). Not sure if you're planning to make any more "Quickie" short videos on specific subjects - but one that I'd like to see would be a practical illustration of how you modify existing track to - for example - add in or remove a turnout/point without tearing up great swathes of track either side.
One of the best (and most necessary) skills of a model railroader is the ability to think three-dimensionally. Knowing in your head what the result is supposed to look like allows you to build toward that goal, and I'm often surprised when I realize it's not something everyone is capable of. Great work was done once more! Have a fantastic two weeks! ~ Maarten
Great stuff Charlie, what I like about your approach is that you are working 'on the fly' and not over-designing everything from the outset and sticking to a rigid plan, it's refreshing and a lesson for newbies that everything doesn't have to be set in stone. Sort of jazz/layout improvisation.......!
Hi Charlie. I realise this isn’t to do with your current video but needed to make a comment. I just wanted to say thanks for the video back on track cleaning. I’ve finally got hold of some Inox and have used it this evening for the first time. I used it in my CMX track cleaner and all I can say to use a Charlie-ism is that it is an “absolute game changer”! Within minutes, engines that have been troublesome for months were working at a really love slow speed with no stalling. Amazing. I’m gobsmacked by how much difference it’s made to my layout. I used to use 99.9% IPA but never again. It’s channels like yours that offer so much useful info - never in a million years would I have used a product like this or had the confidence to do so. So a massive thank you. Keep up the brilliant work and superbly entertaining content. All the best. Ian.
Very enjoyable Charlie. You continue to provide very worthwhile topics of discussion that you rarely see on other channels and you always come up with a plan. Baldrick would be proud. The Siri interruptions were priceless. So looking forward to the progress here. All the best, Kevin
@@ChadwickModelRailway hi Charlie. I don't run trains myself but have watched all of your videos, so in a way I do if that makes sense. I have also watched your recommendations for other people. I do enjoy all your videos and appreciate all you do so thanks again.
Hi Charlie, I watched you video on the Class 13 I liked it so much I have had a go at making one and if I do say my self I did not do a bad job well good for me. You videos give me so much inspiration. I only wish i was as good at modeling as you are. Please keep up the good work Also i would like to say you do not put people down and you show your human and make mistakes.. Kind regard steve
Charlie, I've been trying to figure out how I was going to do this exact thing on my B&N. Part of it will be a "forest" to "hid" the fact that the section I have is about 3in deep. Not a lot of room to maneuver to say the least. On my yard side, it goes to a wall that is basically 90 degrees. My original thought was brick. However, seeing your arched retaining wall, this is much more pleasing to the eye for sure!! Thank you for posting this!! By the way, I'm linking back to this video on a video that I will release on Dec 1st, 2023 8am US Eastern
Excellent Modelling and Filming Skills Charlie - Getting all that lot in order Ready for filming, would have been a logistical Accident waiting to happen for me, tho You definitely made it look Easy peasy, but as you’ve said before, it’s just playing Trains 🤷🏻♂️😜
Once again Charlie you did not disappoint me. Great video, lots of ideas created after watching your video and applying it to my layout. Thanks again and keep up the excellent work you are doing ! Really enjoy your videos
Hi Charlie, Another interesting and informative video, on the subject of the 6 foot peco gauge, it takes into account the the HO gauge of the 16.5mm track we use. Regards, David.
This particular video was really very interesting. I loved that you were paying attention to the landscaping and how it would have looked like before and after. I have watched you for some time now and i must say this is one of my favorite videos. You really are very good at what you do and like many others i am sure, find you very entertaining. You truly did deserve your recent award and I am proud to say that you had my vote. Being a retired building inspector here in the states i truly apperciate those who pay attention to detail. you did a fine job Charlie, thank you so much for your hard work and deligence! Your friend in Tombstone Arizona, Joseph.
Loved the live Siri intervention, Charlie - happens all too often 🤣 Must admit I hadn't appreciated that such care and attention needed to be applied to the landforms around cuttings and tunnels (which puts my early efforts to shame) but at least I now know where to look for the detailed technical specs - and it means I no longer have an excuse for ignoring that aspect. All this while presented in your usual jovial manner, Charlie. Model Railway realism at its best. Love it 😃 Cheers, Peter
Hi Charlie, During this week's excellent video, I wondered how to leave tunnelled areas free for access in case of derailment or engine or power supply failure. I imagine that you have planned for such an event, so I would be grateful to see your solution. Especially as I will soon have a similar quandary to solve, hopefully. I always look forward to your productions. Best wishes Michael
Hi Michael, yes I will show the access restriction when the tunnel is finished. There are about 12 inches of track which is awkward to get to. Regards, Charlie
As always Charlie, you have exceeded all expectations and continue to present in a very pleasurable fashion that is so easy to listen to. Just finishing up my mountain hiding my helix and working on the tunnels now . . . I put in a few "peek-a-boo" openings so I can observe train location and give my guests something interesting to watch as the train disappears into the mountain. Your instructional video is perfectly timed for my layout progress. Keep up the GREAT! work.
Another great video, Charlie, they always interesting to watch. My grandson enjoys watching them as well, but this one was the first one he had watched from more or less when your video went on. As he's got a relatively new channel Dylington Model Railway, he was amazed at how fast the view counts went up 😂. He's planning a 009 layout which will have a tunnel so this one was video was of interest to him. Looking forward to your next video, cheers James 🙂👍
Loved that, thank you Charlie 👍 It may sound a little odd, but I found the scenes where you were chiselling out the foam on the baseboards and cutting out your original hillside to accommodate the new tunnel mouth position really inspirational 👏 That combined with your super positive emails..... meant that when I had an hour or so to my self this afternoon, I didn't just go out to my garage to watch my trains running. No!! , I actually cracked on with some real mundane jobs that I've been putting off for months, Fantastic!!! Thanks once again Charlie, for your brilliant ( award winning) channel and your support and advice, that has definitely got me 'back on track'😉 Kind regards Russ
Hi Charlie Always interesting and well presented. Love each episode no matter what the subject matter is. Things I would not consider giving food for thought Many thanks. Stay safe Howard
I always do find your videos interesting because you show your thought process and show your solution in almost "real time". Other videos seem to do most of the problem solving off screen that tends to make it appear trouble free. Yes, we all have problems and we all finally solve them but if we don't see it, we don't learn.
Hello Charlie, this was a great watch last night with the first part on my break between duties on the big train set and finishing off the video once I’d got home in the small hours. I love that you leave these Denis Norden moments in, captures so much personality and adds such a great touch to the videos. I’m a bit of a Luddite with it comes to the modern world but Siri made me chuckle there! Echo other comments that taking into consideration the landscape and how this was formed over time is an excellent thing to consider and a great pointer to give to those planning models and features. Cheers Charlie and best for now, Alex
Stirring stuff indeed, even for Siri 😂. That diagram of the retaining walls reminded me of an article in an old Eagle Annual about model railway building which I think I still have. I feel like an overdue rummage in the loft coming on during the weekend, phew! Steve
3:34 - 4:18 this is due to smaller curve radii then to scale, resulting the coaches on the two tracks leaning more into and outoff the curve, so more clearence is needed ;) and the track spacing depends on the loading gauge of the specific line.
I agree, and that made me wonder if by maintaining the distance between the outer rail and the retaining wall would cause an issue. Charlie's track is quite straight at this point, but if it was curving more then there could be an issue with a clash between a longer carriage and the wall.
@@miketreehouse Yes, if you want to look it up in more detail this would be (for Europe) NEM 102 (straight) and NEM 103 (curved) edit / forgot about: NEM 112 Track Spacing, then you would need to convert from H0 / S scale to OO, but for that we would need to know the radius and how long Charlies longest coach/waggon is.
Excellent comments, gentleman, and much appreciated. The distance to the retaining wall isn’t the issue, the closest, is the tunnel mouth itself. Regards, Charlie
Another interesting video Charlie for which thanks. The odd noise during the video was quite obvious to me...Siri was leaving the room!! I am not quite sure I understand the last bit...You have glued the cellotex in position, so how are you going to ballast in the tunnel? Yes, I often wondered about the 6ft way gauge. Apparently I was advised it was to allow trains to pass on curves without touching...perhaps foresight into todays longer rolling stock? An interesting fact I discovered by accident...if you lay N Gauge track using the Peco Gauge, the inner 2 rails are OO Gauge. Cheers, Bob
Thanks Bob, I’m so pleased that you found it interesting. Regarding the glueing of the Celotex, I didn’t glue on the final roof section. This will allow you to complete it at a later date. Regards, Charlie
I'm not far off the point where I need to start thinking about scenery on my own layout, so this is all good stuff for information and inspiration. Thank you.
Loved the build on the hill side and retaining wall. You do "retain" alot knowledge. Such as the appearance of building a railway around the land forms instead of the land forms around the railway. Bill from Cslifornia.
Another great video Charlie, step by step instructions make your videos all the more worthwhile. Keep up the good work, Chadwick really is coming on in leaps and bounds😊
Looks good Charlie ! Amazing how a bit of insulation can transform an area ! 😬. I did exactly as you suggested the other week , found someone with some off cuts and took them off their hands , car looked like a snow globe when I got home 😂.
Another great video Charlie; great to see the step you go through for some simple retaining wall scenery.. so much to do and plan ahead; “side tracked” with extra jobs and tasks; the tunnel ballasting and light prevention… some great tips in there for planning ahead. Looking forward to see the ballasting once the hills side been prepared. Access to the rails!!! Thanks again Charlie; all best Marc from Leighton Buzzard
Nice one Charlie, it’s easy to overlook things like access, ballasting and light-bleed when modelling tunnels 😉 I am also really glad to see you thinking long and hard about the lie of the land in that area and adding those bits of cellotex to make it look realistic. The retaining wall will set it all off brilliantly 👍😎🍀🍻
@@ChadwickModelRailway: I’d say it’s better to scratch one’s head a lot when designing than banging it against a wall when you realise you should’ve foreseen a complete balls-up 😉👍
Great video Charlie but sad to say the ship that is ballasting the track in the tunnel BEFORE plastering down the hill has sailed! So now I have to reach with a spoon and do my best! Thankfully I have not yet done the abutment/ tunnel portal!
Hi Charlie, I know it sounds obvious, but I never considered the land flow. I now use it all the time. Completely changed my layout. As also, thanks for your wisdom. Being a beginner, you make life so much easier. Blessings Anthony
Charlie I see so many people quote the ballast shoulder referring to ballast slopping away from the sleeper ends which is incorrect the ballast shoulder which as per the permanent Way Association book on British railway track volume 9 track terminology a ballast shoulder is the ballast placed at the ends of the sleepers, timbers and bearers to provide lateral stability to the track, it goes on to say the Ballast Shoulder Surcharge is a specified additional quantity of ballast added to the ballast shoulder of continuously welded track to provide additional lateral stability . Also known as Ballast Hump; shoulder heap . I will try and dig out extracts from track design handbook and send them via a message as you can’t attach images to comments on UA-cam. I note the cross section you refer to correctly states concrete trough and not cable trunking which seems to emanate from companies producing details to,add to layouts and who use the wrong terminology. By the way you only get sleepers on plain line track in switches and crossings you have bearers.
Great progress in this video Charlie. Very well thought out and explained. Good thinking about the ballasting inside the tunnel and the lining. I’m sure we’ve all been there and fallen into that trap at some time. Thanks for sharing. Roy.
I like how, as the thing evolved a bit, you caught the detail I had noticed, that the top of the arches wanted to align to the top of the tunnel mouth, as a logical bit of geoengineering. The remaining slope could then be battered back as necessary with brick walls where the natural slope was or was not "competent" (that being a geoengineering term for slopes which "behave" and not slip or pitch rocks or the like). That will be a smashing bit of landscaping. If wanting more than a few hours to get sorted.
Charlie, when "fixing" that chipped part of the wall. can I recommend you find a way to patch it in "normal" brick, like you see on walls/structures on the railways... It would be a small feature that would break up the uniformity
@ChadwickModelRailway you can even keep the rapairs behind and not flush with the retaining wall... add that 3D element that multiple layers of brickwork needed repair, and lazy/cheap engineering only fixed one layer
Great video Charlie. On the subject of the 6' spacing, perhaps the disparity between the PECO way gauge and the actual scale measurement is because the track gauge is 16.5mm and not 18.83mm. Bringing the rails together will obviously require compensating with a wider 6' (if that makes sense?).
I was thinking the same. HO track is too narrow for OO gauge. So the track gauge gives a greater distance to ensure the bodies of the trains are the correct distance apart.
It´s the auxiliary reason in case of OO, but those where the gauge has the correct scale (for example H0) got more spacing, too, because of the smaller, not to scale, curve radii, while thoses scales/gauges where the minimal radii are to scale (for example Protofour) can have spacing build to scale ;)
This could not be more timely for me. I’m building a layout on a similar sort of scale to this in my basement for my sons (yeah… honest guv 😂 ) and we’re just at the point of building a tunnel of our own. Some of the techniques here will be invaluable. I’ve got hold of the Metcalfe tunnel mouths to help shape the entry so that takes care of the interior arching but your skills for the sculpting will help no end!
It will be nice to add a service road from the TMD up to the freight yard. Its a bit like reading where you had the split depot areas one being above the other. Similar vibe, be worth looking at some photos of it to get some inspiration
Bit late for a Halloween edition with things going bump in the night behind you Charlie! I'm glad you got to reuse/recycle the arched retaining walls. I assume the side we can't see on camera will be getting the same treatment though on a lower level. Cheers
The open area where the surface mounted point motor is on the hill side could be a prefect place to put a tunnel access doorway to act as a cover to the point motor.
Hi Charlie, as always a very informative video. I look forward to them coming out. It’s the planning and attention to all the little details that makes the difference later on with the layout.
Thanks Charlie - another enjoyable and informative video. I wonder if the reason why the Peco track gauge is a scale 8' rather than 6' because the track gauge is 1:87, and they're allowing for 1:76 OO stock. Or maybe they're just allowing for how much model rolling stock "swings out" on the way too sharp curves we have to use in model.
Clearly good progress! The one thing that worries me is the very high level freight yard- is there any real life examples of such a situation? One possible solution would be old mining area to the side and the freight yard having been built on the former site?
Very interesting Charlie. I don't think the Scalefour diagram is appropriate to a Western Region line. When the cutting was built the tracks would have been broad gauge, so for double track broad gauge it would have been almost five feet wider. However, it would work if the broad gauge was single track and the cutting was then widened for two standard gauge tracks. That would mean the retaining walls on each side would have been built at different times and would probably use different materials.
Merkur also do a range of arches and retaining walls in styrene foam. It can be drybrushed with matt emulsion paint. Leyland paints do a shade called Portland Stone which is great for sandstone and even London brick. It tends to snap if bent too far. One solution is to make shallow parallel notches on the back. I made a viaduct from it including the under arches using this technique. After a few years it can dry out and become a bit fragile . Applying a backing of masking tape will give some extra strength. I am just rebuilding the layout having had to put it in mothballs to insulate the roof so refixing the Station side walls is an upcoming job (think Carlisle). Thanks for another great and uncannily well timed video. For a more rigid construction try laser cut mdf or wood. Several UK companies now supply a wide range of building parts. (Kolat creations and www.lasercutrailwaymodels.co.uk/OO-GAUGE-RETAINING-WALL-NO1-FINE-SCALE for example. Apart from insulation board and plaster the building works also yielded a self adhesive scrim tape mesh which should be useful for scenic work. For freestanding structures you can improve strength by sandwiching thin ply or plasticard between two outer skins of embossed foam board.
Charlie, yet another great video. I am going through the exact same issue at the moment, with my latest layout iteration. What was the land like before the Engineers started their magic. You are right about the 3am wake-up with a eureka moment on how to address the problem. I still have to address my hillside, and the tunnel mouths, so you are giving me inspiration, but that leads to perspiration. I look forward to the next installment. Cheers, and stay safe, Michael
Thanks Michael, I’m so pleased that the video was particularly suitable. Nothing wrong with a good bit of theory to get the old grey cells going. Regards Charlie
Hey Charlie! Love the video, it'll hopefully allow me to progress with some of my own scenary! I hope you dont mind me shedding some light on something you mentioned around the 4:00 mark. I recently passed my Railway PTS (personal track safety) course, the gap is in fact called the Six Foot as you mentioned but the actual measurement between the two lines isn't actually Six foot. I remember us joking about it during the training course, similar story with the distance between the two running rails, its called the Four Foot but it actually isnt Four foot wide. I think the measurement for the four foot was actually 4' 8.5" inches british standard gauge. Sorry ive waffled on a bit here but I hope that helps! Looking forward to your next video!
Charlie can get away with a little more width because he's modelling the Western region, so it could be where broad gauge ran once, which left a wider rail bed than areas that were always what became standard gauge.
As always great video! I'm enjoying this project and seeing it developing. 👍😉 Best thing with landscaping - there's no need to be perfect because in nature nothing is perfect.. 👌😊 In reality, I've seen dirt removed because of safety and added due to leveling.. That's mean's You can do anything what Your imagination wants! By now, everything is great, including plan changes multiple times - that's all of creativity process.. 😂 Waiting for next part! 😉
Hi Charlie,,,l have a tunnel that the side of the hill looked to steep, and i was going to cut it down ,then i watched this video,,and saw you cutting and drawing of the side walls ,angles etc so how i thick i can do something similar,,,Great as always ,many thanks 😅
I always look forward to your videos Charlie and they are always top notch. Your layout is far far bigger than mine and mine is a steam era layout but it's still good to pick up some tips and advice, particularly with the scenic bits. I look forward to the next vid.
Nice one Charlie, this is all good information some time down the line when I've had my 'initial' layout design. I won't say final as these things tend to evolve during the layout build and new ideas along with 'why did I do that?' questions arise. Lots to consider, the layout, the decision for DCC and computer control and of course the landscape. My design timeline needs to consider all of these so it could take some time before I actually come up with an end to (nearly as we never really finish) end plan. Once again many thanks for sharing. I look forward to the next one.
Hi Charlie, have you considered using Black 3.0 acrylic paint for your tunnels. I have found it to be brilliant for making tunnel mouths look super black. I have used it to make a very short (approx 3"), dummy tunnel look like it goes on forever.
Yes Robert, I do intend to paint the surrounding Celotex Matt black. However, I’m still searching for a suitable tunnel liner for the first few inches. Regards, Charlie
With Chadwick being a Modern line layout, i suspect that there was steam run in the past, because from what I've seen the tunnels that go through a long stretch of hills, the engineers would build smoke/air chimneys that would rise from the ground like a lone guard/watch tower, these would allow fumes to be released from the smokeboxes now diesel engines with out choking the passengers and crew. Do you plan on placing something like that along the tunnel routes? or is that not planned. Great work and Vid! :)
Yet another great video. I do like how you try and think about the land existing before the railway engineers came along.
Thanks Lee, however, I think it will be the other end of the cutting that will prove more puzzling. Getting the roadway, and the bridge to look right could be a real challenge. Regards, Charlie
@@ChadwickModelRailway remember hills undulate up and down, so there is nothing wrong with raising the hill back up again
Could not say it any better!
Hi Charlie. While i was watching right after that weird sound that follows after Google or Alexa's voice 😁🤣A similar noise was in my room. 😱 That was weird. I love your humor to. You're are a artist & craftsman. I respect your work on the Chadwick with all the changes & add ons. waiting to see the finished product of this section of your project. Excellent work my friend.
🛤️🏞️
Harold
CSX / CN / VIA RAIL CANADA 🇺🇲/🇨🇦
Thanks Harold, that’s very kind of you to say so. Regards Charlie
Wake up, charlie uploaded! 😁
On time again!
Regards Charlie.
I don't even own a model railway but I like watching your videos
It’s great to have you on board mate. Regards, Charlie
Nice bit of teraforming here Charlie! The great Robert Stephenson is somewhere nodding his approval (and he never had Siri to help him!).
Not sure if you're planning to make any more "Quickie" short videos on specific subjects - but one that I'd like to see would be a practical illustration of how you modify existing track to - for example - add in or remove a turnout/point without tearing up great swathes of track either side.
That’s an interesting suggestion, Alan, and much appreciated.
One of the best (and most necessary) skills of a model railroader is the ability to think three-dimensionally. Knowing in your head what the result is supposed to look like allows you to build toward that goal, and I'm often surprised when I realize it's not something everyone is capable of. Great work was done once more! Have a fantastic two weeks!
~ Maarten
Thanks MM, that’s very kind of you to say so. Regards, Charlie
Enjoyable as always!
Thanks Kingsview, much appreciated. regards, Charlie.
Another great video
Ripping up previous work after a change of mind is what I seem to do - glad I am not alone
Not at all Steve, we all do it, hoping for progress! Regards, Charlie
I always look forward to a new movie from you
Thanks mate, that’s very kind of you to say so.
Great stuff Charlie, what I like about your approach is that you are working 'on the fly' and not over-designing everything from the outset and sticking to a rigid plan, it's refreshing and a lesson for newbies that everything doesn't have to be set in stone. Sort of jazz/layout improvisation.......!
Thanks Robert, your assessment is bang on. Regards Charlie.
Looking good, Charlie!
Thanks John, much appreciated.
I'm new to this and found your feeds, very interesting and full of helpful tips. Your chuckle at times, makes myself and my wife smile. Good man. 👍🏾
Thanks Peter, I’m so pleased that you and your wife find the channel interesting. Regards Charlie
Hi Charlie. I realise this isn’t to do with your current video but needed to make a comment. I just wanted to say thanks for the video back on track cleaning. I’ve finally got hold of some Inox and have used it this evening for the first time. I used it in my CMX track cleaner and all I can say to use a Charlie-ism is that it is an “absolute game changer”! Within minutes, engines that have been troublesome for months were working at a really love slow speed with no stalling. Amazing. I’m gobsmacked by how much difference it’s made to my layout. I used to use 99.9% IPA but never again. It’s channels like yours that offer so much useful info - never in a million years would I have used a product like this or had the confidence to do so. So a massive thank you. Keep up the brilliant work and superbly entertaining content. All the best. Ian.
That’s great news, Ian. However, do keep it away from traction tyres. Regards, Charlie
@@ChadwickModelRailway will do.
Very enjoyable Charlie. You continue to provide very worthwhile topics of discussion that you rarely see on other channels and you always come up with a plan. Baldrick would be proud. The Siri interruptions were priceless. So looking forward to the progress here. All the best, Kevin
Thanks Kevin, that’s very kind of you to say so mate. Regards, Charlie
well charlie. brilliant enjoyed again. can't get enough keep up the good work.
Thanks Spiderhead, I’m so pleased that you found the video interesting. Regards Charlie
@@ChadwickModelRailway hi Charlie. I don't run trains myself but have watched all of your videos, so in a way I do if that makes sense. I have also watched your recommendations for other people. I do enjoy all your videos and appreciate all you do so thanks again.
A great video once again, many thanks Charlie
Thanks Jade, I’m so pleased that you found it interesting. Regards Charlie
Lots of very useful information in those scalefour digests.
Yes indeed, and there are new form of reference to me. Regards, Charlie
Great stuff! Don’t forget about the width for that third line that they removed in the 1950’s 😮😮😅😅
That’s a very interesting thought dakdak. Regards, Charlie
Cheers, Charlie.
You’re most welcome Roo.
Regards Charlie.
Looking good Charlie, look forward to seeing the finiished article.
Thanks JPS, I’m so pleased that you found it interesting. Regards Charlie
Very interesting vlog Charlie 👍
Thanks Martin, so pleased that you found it interesting. Regards, Charlie
Hi Charlie, I watched you video on the Class 13 I liked it so much I have had a go at making one and if I do say my self I did not do a bad job well good for me. You videos give me so much inspiration. I only wish i was as good at modeling as you are. Please keep up the good work Also i would like to say you do not put people down and you show your human and make mistakes.. Kind regard steve
Thanks Steve, his comments, like yours to make the whole thing worthwhile. Regards, Charlie
Nicely done, thanks for sharing..yes siri is indeed amazing sometimes. Have to be careful with what you say..take care and enjoy your day..
Thanks Frankkie, much appreciated. Regards, Charlie
Very enjoyable .Siri😅. Your attention to detail is admirable .Looking forward to the end result of the cutting.
Thanks David, me and Siri really enjoyed ourselves. Regards Charlie
Charlie, I've been trying to figure out how I was going to do this exact thing on my B&N. Part of it will be a "forest" to "hid" the fact that the section I have is about 3in deep. Not a lot of room to maneuver to say the least. On my yard side, it goes to a wall that is basically 90 degrees. My original thought was brick. However, seeing your arched retaining wall, this is much more pleasing to the eye for sure!! Thank you for posting this!! By the way, I'm linking back to this video on a video that I will release on Dec 1st, 2023 8am US Eastern
Thanks Ray, I’m so pleased that you have found the video interesting. It’s great to have a community where we can share ideas. Regards, Charlie
nailed it again
Thanks Peter, it’s great to have you on board. Regards Charlie
Great video and was nice to have a chat with u at Wincanton show
Thanks Simon, it was a very enjoyable show too. Regards, Charlie
Charlie - ALL your videos are interresting!
Thanks John, that’s most kind. Regards, Charlie
Excellent Modelling and Filming Skills Charlie - Getting all that lot in order Ready for filming, would have been a logistical Accident waiting to happen for me, tho You definitely made it look Easy peasy, but as you’ve said before, it’s just playing Trains 🤷🏻♂️😜
Thanks DB, I’m so pleased that you appreciate the work that goes in behind the scenes. Regards, Charlie
Once again Charlie you did not disappoint me. Great video, lots of ideas created after watching your video and applying it to my layout. Thanks again and keep up the excellent work you are doing ! Really enjoy your videos
Thanks Jeff, that’s very kind of you to say so. Regards Charlie.
Another great video Charlie keep up the good work
Thanks, O4850. I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it, regards, Charlie
Can’t beat a bit of caulkers bung! 🙄 👍🏻
A day without caulk is a day wasted. Regards, Charlie
Another great one charlie
Thanks John, much appreciated. Regards, Charlie
Just a great video.... wishing you and yours a happy holiday season
Thanks Kevin, that’s very kind of you to say so. Regards, Charlie
Hi Charlie, Another interesting and informative video, on the subject of the 6 foot peco gauge, it takes into account the the HO gauge of the 16.5mm track we use. Regards, David.
Thanks David, the 6 foot way gauge is a real head scratcher. Regards Charlie
This particular video was really very interesting. I loved that you were paying attention to the landscaping and how it would have looked like before and after. I have watched you for some time now and i must say this is one of my favorite videos. You really are very good at what you do and like many others i am sure, find you very entertaining. You truly did deserve your recent award and I am proud to say that you had my vote. Being a retired building inspector here in the states i truly apperciate those who pay attention to detail. you did a fine job Charlie, thank you so much for your hard work and deligence! Your friend in Tombstone Arizona, Joseph.
Thank you Joseph, it’s comments, such as yours to make the whole thing worthwhile. Stay safe, regards, Charlie
Hi. Very interesting video. Thoroughly enjoyed it.
Thanks Les, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it mate. Regards, Charlie
Loved the live Siri intervention, Charlie - happens all too often 🤣 Must admit I hadn't appreciated that such care and attention needed to be applied to the landforms around cuttings and tunnels (which puts my early efforts to shame) but at least I now know where to look for the detailed technical specs - and it means I no longer have an excuse for ignoring that aspect. All this while presented in your usual jovial manner, Charlie. Model Railway realism at its best. Love it 😃 Cheers, Peter
It’s comments such as yours Peter, that make it all worthwhile.
Regards Charlie
It's coming along nicely Charlie and well thought out
Thanks Steve, but it’s still a long way to go. Regards, Charlie
Looking good well done
Thanks, Michael, regards, Charlie
Hi Charlie,
During this week's excellent video, I wondered how to leave tunnelled areas free for access in case of derailment or engine or power supply failure. I imagine that you have planned for such an event, so I would be grateful to see your solution. Especially as I will soon have a similar quandary to solve, hopefully.
I always look forward to your productions.
Best wishes
Michael
Hi Michael, yes I will show the access restriction when the tunnel is finished. There are about 12 inches of track which is awkward to get to. Regards, Charlie
As always Charlie, you have exceeded all expectations and continue to present in a very pleasurable fashion that is so easy to listen to. Just finishing up my mountain hiding my helix and working on the tunnels now . . . I put in a few "peek-a-boo" openings so I can observe train location and give my guests something interesting to watch as the train disappears into the mountain. Your instructional video is perfectly timed for my layout progress. Keep up the GREAT! work.
Thanks PW, that’s really kind of you to say so. Regards, Charlie
That is a lot of hard work, albeit worth it in the end. Thank you for sharing.
Thanks Alex, I’m so pleased that you found it interesting.
I like your thinking and methods Charlie. Great techniques explained in an easy to follow style.
Thanks Kiwi, that’s very kind of you to say so. Regards, Charlie
Another great video, Charlie, they always interesting to watch. My grandson enjoys watching them as well, but this one was the first one he had watched from more or less when your video went on. As he's got a relatively new channel Dylington Model Railway, he was amazed at how fast the view counts went up 😂. He's planning a 009 layout which will have a tunnel so this one was video was of interest to him. Looking forward to your next video, cheers James 🙂👍
Thanks James, and do wish your grandson well on his UA-cam endeavours. Regards, Charlie
@@ChadwickModelRailway thank you Charlie I will, he's quite pleased at the moment he's go 73 subscribers, it's surprised me how many he's got 🙂👍
This is why your layout always looks so good. You think things out and you are, compaired to me, extremely neat .
Fine video Charlie.
Thanks Bob, that’s very kind of you to say so.
Loved that, thank you Charlie 👍
It may sound a little odd, but I found the scenes where you were chiselling out the foam on the baseboards and cutting out your original hillside to accommodate the new tunnel mouth position really inspirational 👏
That combined with your super positive emails..... meant that when I had an hour or so to my self this afternoon, I didn't just go out to my garage to watch my trains running. No!! , I actually cracked on with some real mundane jobs that I've been putting off for months, Fantastic!!!
Thanks once again Charlie, for your brilliant ( award winning) channel and your support and advice, that has definitely got me 'back on track'😉
Kind regards
Russ
That’s great news, Russ, and it’s comments such as yours to make the whole thing worthwhile. Regards, Charlie
Hi Charlie
Always interesting and well presented.
Love each episode no matter what the subject matter is. Things I would not consider giving food for thought
Many thanks.
Stay safe
Howard
Thanks Howard, it’s great to have you onboard mate. Regards, Charlie
you make it look so easy Charlie I'm not allowed to do any of that on our layout I'm the chief track and wheel cleaner 😂😂😂😂❤
Come on Robert, put your foot down mate. Regards, Charlie
I always do find your videos interesting because you show your thought process and show your solution in almost "real time". Other videos seem to do most of the problem solving off screen that tends to make it appear trouble free. Yes, we all have problems and we all finally solve them but if we don't see it, we don't learn.
You make an excellent point mate. I take great pride in showing my mistakes. Regards, Charlie
Hello Charlie, this was a great watch last night with the first part on my break between duties on the big train set and finishing off the video once I’d got home in the small hours. I love that you leave these Denis Norden moments in, captures so much personality and adds such a great touch to the videos. I’m a bit of a Luddite with it comes to the modern world but Siri made me chuckle there!
Echo other comments that taking into consideration the landscape and how this was formed over time is an excellent thing to consider and a great pointer to give to those planning models and features. Cheers Charlie and best for now, Alex
Thanks Alex, I’m so pleased that you find the channel interesting. It’s great to have you on board. Regards Charlie
Stirring stuff indeed, even for Siri 😂. That diagram of the retaining walls reminded me of an article in an old Eagle Annual about model railway building which I think I still have. I feel like an overdue rummage in the loft coming on during the weekend, phew! Steve
Thanks Steve, I’m so pleased that you found the video interesting. Nothing wrong with a good bit of theory. Regards Charlie
awesome video charlie
Thanks Christopher, that’s most kind. Regards, Charlie
really brilliant agin really enjoy your videos
Thanks Paul , that’s very kind of you to say so. Regards, Charlie
great video Charlie the retaining wall looks great always enjoy your videos
Thanks mate, I’m so pleased that you found it interesting. Regards Charlie
3:34 - 4:18 this is due to smaller curve radii then to scale, resulting the coaches on the two tracks leaning more into and outoff the curve, so more clearence is needed ;)
and the track spacing depends on the loading gauge of the specific line.
I agree, and that made me wonder if by maintaining the distance between the outer rail and the retaining wall would cause an issue. Charlie's track is quite straight at this point, but if it was curving more then there could be an issue with a clash between a longer carriage and the wall.
@@miketreehouse Yes, if you want to look it up in more detail this would be (for Europe) NEM 102 (straight) and NEM 103 (curved) edit / forgot about: NEM 112 Track Spacing, then you would need to convert from H0 / S scale to OO, but for that we would need to know the radius and how long Charlies longest coach/waggon is.
Excellent comments, gentleman, and much appreciated. The distance to the retaining wall isn’t the issue, the closest, is the tunnel mouth itself. Regards, Charlie
Another interesting video Charlie for which thanks. The odd noise during the video was quite obvious to me...Siri was leaving the room!! I am not quite sure I understand the last bit...You have glued the cellotex in position, so how are you going to ballast in the tunnel?
Yes, I often wondered about the 6ft way gauge. Apparently I was advised it was to allow trains to pass on curves without touching...perhaps foresight into todays longer rolling stock? An interesting fact I discovered by accident...if you lay N Gauge track using the Peco Gauge, the inner 2 rails are OO Gauge. Cheers, Bob
Thanks Bob, I’m so pleased that you found it interesting. Regarding the glueing of the Celotex, I didn’t glue on the final roof section. This will allow you to complete it at a later date. Regards, Charlie
I'm not far off the point where I need to start thinking about scenery on my own layout, so this is all good stuff for information and inspiration. Thank you.
Thanks mate, I’m so pleased that the video could well be useful to you. Regards, Charlie
Loved the build on the hill side and retaining wall. You do "retain" alot knowledge. Such as the appearance of building a railway around the land
forms instead of the land forms around the railway. Bill from Cslifornia.
Thanks Bill, I’m so pleased that you found it interesting. Regards Charlie
Another great video Charlie, step by step instructions make your videos all the more worthwhile. Keep up the good work, Chadwick really is coming on in leaps and bounds😊
Thanks Jeremy, that’s really kind of you to say so. Regards, Charlie
Looks good Charlie ! Amazing how a bit of insulation can transform an area ! 😬. I did exactly as you suggested the other week , found someone with some off cuts and took them off their hands , car looked like a snow globe when I got home 😂.
That is good news, Lee, and you’re doing the planets for favour as well. Regards, Charlie
Another well presented and useful video, Charlie 👍
Thanks Jeff, that’s most kind mate. Regards, Charlie
Love listening to you, could listen to you for hours while coding. Also find it very interesting how you mix centimeters and inches.
Thanks Stephan, that’s very kind of you to say so. Regards, Charlie
Another great video Charlie; great to see the step you go through for some simple retaining wall scenery.. so much to do and plan ahead; “side tracked” with extra jobs and tasks; the tunnel ballasting and light prevention… some great tips in there for planning ahead. Looking forward to see the ballasting once the hills side been prepared. Access to the rails!!! Thanks again Charlie; all best Marc from Leighton Buzzard
Thanks Markc I’m so pleased that you understand my strange thought process. Regards Charlie
Nice one Charlie, it’s easy to overlook things like access, ballasting and light-bleed when modelling tunnels 😉 I am also really glad to see you thinking long and hard about the lie of the land in that area and adding those bits of cellotex to make it look realistic. The retaining wall will set it all off brilliantly 👍😎🍀🍻
Thanks Tim, I’m so pleased that you appreciated the video. There was a lot of head scratching in this one. Regards, Charlie
@@ChadwickModelRailway: I’d say it’s better to scratch one’s head a lot when designing than banging it against a wall when you realise you should’ve foreseen a complete balls-up 😉👍
Siri interupting, thats one for the Christmas special 🤣
A great blooper Tez.
Regards Charlie
Great video Charlie but sad to say the ship that is ballasting the track in the tunnel BEFORE plastering down the hill has sailed! So now I have to reach with a spoon and do my best! Thankfully I have not yet done the abutment/ tunnel portal!
We learn by mistakes, Mark, I certainly have! Regards, Charlie
Hi Charlie,
I know it sounds obvious, but I never considered the land flow. I now use it all the time. Completely changed my layout. As also, thanks for your wisdom. Being a beginner, you make life so much easier.
Blessings
Anthony
Thanks Anthony, that’s really kind of you to say so. Regards, Charlie
Charlie I see so many people quote the ballast shoulder referring to ballast slopping away from the sleeper ends which is incorrect the ballast shoulder which as per the permanent Way Association book on British railway track volume 9 track terminology a ballast shoulder is the ballast placed at the ends of the sleepers, timbers and bearers to provide lateral stability to the track, it goes on to say the Ballast Shoulder Surcharge is a specified additional quantity of ballast added to the ballast shoulder of continuously welded track to provide additional lateral stability . Also known as Ballast Hump; shoulder heap . I will try and dig out extracts from track design handbook and send them via a message as you can’t attach images to comments on UA-cam. I note the cross section you refer to correctly states concrete trough and not cable trunking which seems to emanate from companies producing details to,add to layouts and who use the wrong terminology. By the way you only get sleepers on plain line track in switches and crossings you have bearers.
Great information Gary, and I’d appreciate the documentation to which you refer. Regards, Charlie
As always Charlie, you make it look so easy. Loved this one 👍
Easy Alan, you must be joking. Regards, Charlie
Great progress in this video Charlie. Very well thought out and explained. Good thinking about the ballasting inside the tunnel and the lining. I’m sure we’ve all been there and fallen into that trap at some time. Thanks for sharing. Roy.
Thanks Roy, I’m so pleased that you found it interesting. Regards Charlie
I like how, as the thing evolved a bit, you caught the detail I had noticed, that the top of the arches wanted to align to the top of the tunnel mouth, as a logical bit of geoengineering. The remaining slope could then be battered back as necessary with brick walls where the natural slope was or was not "competent" (that being a geoengineering term for slopes which "behave" and not slip or pitch rocks or the like). That will be a smashing bit of landscaping. If wanting more than a few hours to get sorted.
What an excellent comment Captain Mack. It’s great to have you on board. Regards, Charlie.
Charlie, when "fixing" that chipped part of the wall. can I recommend you find a way to patch it in "normal" brick, like you see on walls/structures on the railways... It would be a small feature that would break up the uniformity
Now, that’s a great suggestion Kieran. Regards, Charlie
@ChadwickModelRailway you can even keep the rapairs behind and not flush with the retaining wall... add that 3D element that multiple layers of brickwork needed repair, and lazy/cheap engineering only fixed one layer
Great video Charlie. On the subject of the 6' spacing, perhaps the disparity between the PECO way gauge and the actual scale measurement is because the track gauge is 16.5mm and not 18.83mm. Bringing the rails together will obviously require compensating with a wider 6' (if that makes sense?).
Well that’s an interesting thought Phil. Regards, Charlie
I was thinking the same. HO track is too narrow for OO gauge. So the track gauge gives a greater distance to ensure the bodies of the trains are the correct distance apart.
It´s the auxiliary reason in case of OO,
but those where the gauge has the correct scale (for example H0) got more spacing, too, because of the smaller, not to scale, curve radii,
while thoses scales/gauges where the minimal radii are to scale (for example Protofour) can have spacing build to scale ;)
This could not be more timely for me. I’m building a layout on a similar sort of scale to this in my basement for my sons (yeah… honest guv 😂 ) and we’re just at the point of building a tunnel of our own. Some of the techniques here will be invaluable. I’ve got hold of the Metcalfe tunnel mouths to help shape the entry so that takes care of the interior arching but your skills for the sculpting will help no end!
That’s great news.regards Charlie
Best start to any of your videos, Charlie! :D Genuine laugh out loud moments there! Keep up the excellent work!
Thanks Steve , that’s very kind of you to say so mate. Regards, Charlie
Thank you Charlie for another both informative and entertaining video. So many great ideas. Greetings from Sweden 🇸🇪.
Thanks Anders, I’m so pleased that you found it interesting. Regards Charlie
Hi Charlie or should it be `Bob the builder` (lol) another great video of interest to watch, many thanks for sharing take care regards Barry..
Thanks Barry, I’m so pleased that you found it interesting. Regards Charlie
It's looking good. And thanks too you giving me ideas for my new build. Just me making base boards at present.
Thanks Alan, I’m so pleased that you found it interesting. Good luck with your project, regards, Charlie
Hi Charlie, thought the attached photo might help you with your tunnel / retaining wall.
Sorry Ken, but you can’t attach photos on UA-cam. Email me at Chadwick Model railway@gmail.com.
Great video lots to think about when doing ground work do like watching the way to do things thanks for sharing 👍
Thanks Clive, that’s very kind of you to say so. Regards, Charlie
It will be nice to add a service road from the TMD up to the freight yard.
Its a bit like reading where you had the split depot areas one being above the other. Similar vibe, be worth looking at some photos of it to get some inspiration
Thanks Eric, there will be a road.
Regards Charlie.
Developing nicely. Looking forward to seeing the freight yard and the scene coming together between it and the tmd
Thanks BSY, I’m so pleased that you find it interesting. Regards Charlie
Bit late for a Halloween edition with things going bump in the night behind you Charlie! I'm glad you got to reuse/recycle the arched retaining walls. I assume the side we can't see on camera will be getting the same treatment though on a lower level. Cheers
Yes Davie, that is my intention. Regards, Charlie
The open area where the surface mounted point motor is on the hill side could be a prefect place to put a tunnel access doorway to act as a cover to the point motor.
Well that’s an interesting suggestion. Regards, Charlie
Hi Charlie, as always a very informative video. I look forward to them coming out. It’s the planning and attention to all the little details that makes the difference later on with the layout.
Thanks CBW, I’m so pleased that you find the video interesting.
Love the Graf (the Phone) , So layout it's not DCC then.
I’m so pleased that it brought a smile to your face mate. Regards, Charlie
Thanks Charlie - another enjoyable and informative video. I wonder if the reason why the Peco track gauge is a scale 8' rather than 6' because the track gauge is 1:87, and they're allowing for 1:76 OO stock. Or maybe they're just allowing for how much model rolling stock "swings out" on the way too sharp curves we have to use in model.
I think it’s more or less based on folklore! Regards, Charlie
Clearly good progress! The one thing that worries me is the very high level freight yard- is there any real life examples of such a situation? One possible solution would be old mining area to the side and the freight yard having been built on the former site?
I do understand your point of view Hugh. However, I do need to ensure that the layout has its playability for multiple operators. Regards, Charlie
Very interesting Charlie. I don't think the Scalefour diagram is appropriate to a Western Region line. When the cutting was built the tracks would have been broad gauge, so for double track broad gauge it would have been almost five feet wider. However, it would work if the broad gauge was single track and the cutting was then widened for two standard gauge tracks. That would mean the retaining walls on each side would have been built at different times and would probably use different materials.
I take your point of view Mark, however, it’s not all about the GWR sadly. Regards, Charlie
Looking good I like the 'flexible' retaining wall I think I will use that idea myself.
That’s praise indeed Arthur. Good luck, regards, Charlie
Merkur also do a range of arches and retaining walls in styrene foam. It can be drybrushed with matt emulsion paint. Leyland paints do a shade called Portland Stone which is great for sandstone and even London brick. It tends to snap if bent too far. One solution is to make shallow parallel notches on the back. I made a viaduct from it including the under arches using this technique. After a few years it can dry out and become a bit fragile . Applying a backing of masking tape will give some extra strength. I am just rebuilding the layout having had to put it in mothballs to insulate the roof so refixing the Station side walls is an upcoming job (think Carlisle). Thanks for another great and uncannily well timed video. For a more rigid construction try laser cut mdf or wood. Several UK companies now supply a wide range of building parts. (Kolat creations and www.lasercutrailwaymodels.co.uk/OO-GAUGE-RETAINING-WALL-NO1-FINE-SCALE for example. Apart from insulation board and plaster the building works also yielded a self adhesive scrim tape mesh which should be useful for scenic work. For freestanding structures you can improve strength by sandwiching thin ply or plasticard between two outer skins of embossed foam board.
Charlie, yet another great video. I am going through the exact same issue at the moment, with my latest layout iteration. What was the land like before the Engineers started their magic.
You are right about the 3am wake-up with a eureka moment on how to address the problem. I still have to address my hillside, and the tunnel mouths, so you are giving me inspiration, but that leads to perspiration.
I look forward to the next installment.
Cheers, and stay safe, Michael
Thanks Michael, I’m so pleased that the video was particularly suitable. Nothing wrong with a good bit of theory to get the old grey cells going. Regards Charlie
Hey Charlie! Love the video, it'll hopefully allow me to progress with some of my own scenary!
I hope you dont mind me shedding some light on something you mentioned around the 4:00 mark. I recently passed my Railway PTS (personal track safety) course, the gap is in fact called the Six Foot as you mentioned but the actual measurement between the two lines isn't actually Six foot. I remember us joking about it during the training course, similar story with the distance between the two running rails, its called the Four Foot but it actually isnt Four foot wide. I think the measurement for the four foot was actually 4' 8.5" inches british standard gauge.
Sorry ive waffled on a bit here but I hope that helps! Looking forward to your next video!
You’re not the 1st to mention this Jamie, and I dread to think how many others will join your cause. Regards, Charlie
@@ChadwickModelRailway stay strong Charlie, sorry for being apart of the movement 😔
Charlie can get away with a little more width because he's modelling the Western region, so it could be where broad gauge ran once, which left a wider rail bed than areas that were always what became standard gauge.
As always great video! I'm enjoying this project and seeing it developing. 👍😉
Best thing with landscaping - there's no need to be perfect because in nature nothing is perfect.. 👌😊
In reality, I've seen dirt removed because of safety and added due to leveling.. That's mean's You can do anything what Your imagination wants! By now, everything is great, including plan changes multiple times - that's all of creativity process.. 😂
Waiting for next part! 😉
Thanks A415, I’m so pleased that you find the videos. Interesting. Regards, Charlie
Charlie look up a us company called chooch they make flexible wall panels I think noch also sells them
Thanks Southern hobbies, much appreciated. Regards, Charlie
Hi Charlie,,,l have a tunnel that the side of the hill looked to steep, and i was going to cut it down ,then i watched this video,,and saw you cutting and drawing of the side walls ,angles etc so how i thick i can do something similar,,,Great as always ,many thanks 😅
That’s great news, Philip, so pleased they found the video useful. Regards, Charlie
I always look forward to your videos Charlie and they are always top notch. Your layout is far far bigger than mine and mine is a steam era layout but it's still good to pick up some tips and advice, particularly with the scenic bits. I look forward to the next vid.
Thanks mate, that’s very kind of you to say so. Regards, Charlie
Nice one Charlie, this is all good information some time down the line when I've had my 'initial' layout design. I won't say final as these things tend to evolve during the layout build and new ideas along with 'why did I do that?' questions arise. Lots to consider, the layout, the decision for DCC and computer control and of course the landscape. My design timeline needs to consider all of these so it could take some time before I actually come up with an end to (nearly as we never really finish) end plan. Once again many thanks for sharing. I look forward to the next one.
Thanks Anthony, and you’re right, it’s all in the planning. Regards, Charlie
Hi Charlie, have you considered using Black 3.0 acrylic paint for your tunnels. I have found it to be brilliant for making tunnel mouths look super black. I have used it to make a very short (approx 3"), dummy tunnel look like it goes on forever.
Yes Robert, I do intend to paint the surrounding Celotex Matt black. However, I’m still searching for a suitable tunnel liner for the first few inches. Regards, Charlie
With Chadwick being a Modern line layout, i suspect that there was steam run in the past, because from what I've seen the tunnels that go through a long stretch of hills, the engineers would build smoke/air chimneys that would rise from the ground like a lone guard/watch tower, these would allow fumes to be released from the smokeboxes now diesel engines with out choking the passengers and crew.
Do you plan on placing something like that along the tunnel routes? or is that not planned.
Great work and Vid! :)
Thanks dark nut, that’s an excellent idea. Regards, Charlie