World On Fire: The Root Causes of Populism, Authoritarianism and The Whole Global Mess

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  • @tomknoll796
    @tomknoll796 5 місяців тому +391

    He had me right up until the 'remedy' of people in the center and on the left needing some form of 'faith, family and flag'. He just got through telling us all about the lack of a sense of security among poorer people based upon horrible educational outcomes [graduation rates; obesity; shorter life-spans; higher divorce rates; etc.], but then never mentioned the fact that the 1950s and 60s spurred the growth of the greatest capitalist economy ever in the history of the world - but how? Through extremely high tax rates on the rich that funded, among other things, a public education system that was the envy of the world! Faith, family and flag are all good and well, but to make a substantive, material difference in the lives and prospects the poorest Americans, TAX THE F*CKING RICH!!!

    • @akumasdeception
      @akumasdeception 5 місяців тому

      That's why establishment types like him or Fareed Zakaria shouldn't be taken seriously. They're still living in the 1990s and are neoliberal idealouges.

    • @AdamBechtol
      @AdamBechtol 5 місяців тому +3

      mmmm

    • @venkatesanmurali4553
      @venkatesanmurali4553 5 місяців тому

      100%!!! David is of the more dangerous variety of “conservatives” - they speak in uplifting prose which cloaks their fundamentalist agenda. The false equivalence he trots out about the Left & the Right has a direct path to the Right’s dismantling of our Constitution (which he professes to love).

    • @robgronsky4466
      @robgronsky4466 5 місяців тому

      Both need to be done at the same time, the most powerful people in our society are narcacists or have narcacistic traits, they naturally steer the public to be like them. How do we tax them without choking off the fuel they run on given the power they wield? Its our ideal vs theirs, this is a war of ideology and ultimately like all wars belief. Call this a cold civil war if you will and its been occuring since the pandemic at least. This is only the beginning, governance doesnt shift in ideology quickly, it requires a lot of heart.

    • @willardchi2571
      @willardchi2571 5 місяців тому +43

      And not by raising their taxes by 2 percent. Make the highest income bracket 90% like it used to be when America was great.

  • @danieldanchambliss8616
    @danieldanchambliss8616 5 місяців тому +85

    Nice talk, but he passes right over the mass destruction of employment security that's occurred since the 1980s -- exportation of manufacturing, destruction of unions, mass layoffs in the early 90s, the rise of at-will employment, huge increase in income and wealth inequality, etc. The psychological, moral, and spiritual sickness that Brooks rightly sees didn't just come from nowhere. And lack of trust in others? It's totally reasonable given the life circumstances most people face today. And while it's good to be pleasant to folks on the subway, it won't change the basic problem.

    • @UKAlanR
      @UKAlanR 5 місяців тому +7

      Very true. In the past year or so I've moved the short distance from being just-about-OK financially to being kept awake at night wondering how to keep things together this week. Many of the props like some social life, which I'd typically rely on for a bit of spiritual happiness, disappeared quite quickly, and I knew the reality that those coping with unemployment cope with, often for years. I can see how a combination of lack of education, and of resources to understand their situation and remediate it, would resut in grabbing anything that looked like a political solution. Only when you have a little money to spare do you have material choices

    • @mongoharry7765
      @mongoharry7765 4 місяці тому +3

      Yeah, when I saw the title of this talk I was half expecting that kind of analysis, but I didn't really think Brooks would deliver it.
      Throughout the history of the US, our government has been influenced by industrialists to support harsh governments throughout the world. The US received cheap raw materials which were turned into finished goods in our factories and sold in markets everywhere. American workers benefitted.
      Then the industrialists moved their businesses to Asia.
      Incidentally, a lot of the countries that suffered under this neocolonialism are now BRICS nations.
      Now, American is neither an industrial engine nor a source of abundant natural resources. Western Europe is in the same boat. We can't spend money we don't have.
      This is why Trump wants to "drill baby drill".
      And rights are expensive: whenever the government has to provide citizens with due process or drinking water, it's gotta foot the bill.
      So people are poorer and more discontented, and the situation is ripe for flag waving authoritarians.
      I learned this view forty years ago in college Sociology, reading Daniel Chirot's book "Social Change in the Twentieth Century".

    • @Mr22thou
      @Mr22thou 4 місяці тому

      Some Reagan Republicans haven't learned a thing. I heard a rumor the other day and a little research turned this up: David Brooks: "Yes, first, I should say I have been friends with Harlan Crow for about 20 years."

    • @Anabee3
      @Anabee3 4 місяці тому +1

      1)There's not always time to address everything that needs repaired in our country, even if he wanted to.
      2) There are different ppl who unpack different issues. I'm sure There's someone else with a platform who focuses on what YOU want to hear about.
      3) You have the option to be that person.

    • @danielwest2186
      @danielwest2186 4 місяці тому

      We talk about advantages in education so we make more money and we call that the division between the affluent and the poor as if we are ourselves selling the false myth that a better job and more money are paths to happiness in life. We create a society of naive children working in cubicles making lots of money that are not ever happy except when they get a raise or a new promotion.
      They hate their jobs and destroy their own lives willingly because they believe the myths of the insane, and most greedy apex predators on earth that are never happy and never satisfied until they go our every day trying to make everyone as miserable in life as they are. Much like the insanely dishonest, and disgusting politicians, and judges in Washington serving the most wealthy oligarchs in their corrupted dishonest lives that are not very happy lives.

  • @rmal8683
    @rmal8683 5 місяців тому +123

    bunch of rich people purchasing politicians to bend rules that result in wealth inequality. then they complain that these lower resources people are losing sense of family; community etc. Low Resource Communities develop low trust for the sake of self preservation. High Resource Communities develop high trust for the sake of mutual preservation. At the end of the day, Its not about how parents need to teach their children differently. Its about giving parents the time to invest in their children. As long as billionaires, whip the lash of capitalism at the middle class and lower middle class workers, then survival and profitability becomes more important than values, familial bonds, community, etc. If you're working 2 jobs to make ends meet, what time do you have for "Community"?

    • @jamesrichie3188
      @jamesrichie3188 5 місяців тому

      I don't 100% agree with you. I think we have politicians THEMSELVES who are making rules that enable them to be "rich people". If we get scared over the middle class disappearing, then there are of course going to be people who want to jump ship into living with the high class. They would naturally want to move up by any means possible to avoid getting swallowed up by a shrinking middle. You wouldn't give a second thought to the long term effects of ANY of your "Make me a rich and powerful person right now" politics. You would just look around at the people who have already had it forever and say "I did it!".
      Odds are good most incredibly rich people are just as confused as the rest of us.
      If you've had money for 5-10 generations and have seen 3 or 4 governments rise and fail you would probably stop caring so much about politics.
      But if you were a greedy dirty rat that wants to play pretend that you are rich and powerful, you'll lie and cheat your way into a place where you write the rules.*
      *Some exclusions of course may apply.
      There's a real issue of extortion with the lower upper, upper middle. I think most billion, trillionaires are already too far from the core of the issue to know really whats going on. There is no incentive there.

    • @nbultman_art
      @nbultman_art 5 місяців тому +5

      Well said

    • @robgronsky4466
      @robgronsky4466 5 місяців тому +4

      or one career at 80+ hrs a week. Even if you make hundreds of thousands a year you can be a victim of this.

    • @leanordials8008
      @leanordials8008 5 місяців тому +2

      What time do you have to raise your children?

    • @themaskedman221
      @themaskedman221 5 місяців тому +1

      What rules are they bending and what's the relationship to wealth inequality?

  • @ichifish
    @ichifish 5 місяців тому +43

    I love David Brooks, although I don't often agree with him. The hole in his spirituality argument is that in non-religious countries, like Japan, where I live, society is more intact, extremism is low, and people have a more positive view of the future. Fewer than 15% of people regularly attend religious services here, and it's been this way since WWII.
    One key difference between the Japan and Nordic countries and the US is a strong social net (although it's eroding here).
    One factor that has affected everyone worldwide is the corporate takeover. You can't have a sense of moral order when the corporations that run our lives don't. Society no longer allows everyone to succeed; you have to embrace corporatism to succeed. When educators, farmers, and caregivers cannot live prosperous middle-class lives, society can't succeed.

    • @buzoff4642
      @buzoff4642 5 місяців тому +1

      I'm listening to the Japanese news, and they sound like they've a pack of trouble too. Their youth are leaving to Australia for living wage, their elderly abandoned. They're importing policies reflecting US' failures, you can officially abandoned the baby you can't afford, at fire stations.
      I agree, if the definition of acceptable rate of return is more than it was last quarter, then nothing is left on the table ... for those who actually do the work to produce that value.
      Worse, at the same time, set tax rates to best reward unearned income.

    • @wildcat1419
      @wildcat1419 4 місяці тому +4

      The US doesn’t have a decent minimum wage let alone sufficient social safety net. This is shame given the financial resources of the country.

    • @aleejones7508
      @aleejones7508 3 місяці тому

      Japan denies and hides their different population as well as Sweden does...That is such a myth. Often those different are treated with second class rights Look into Ainoko

  • @asbeautifulasasunset
    @asbeautifulasasunset 5 місяців тому +75

    So far, not so good. Spiritual recession = loneliness People are using loneliness to get involved in politics. Wrong. 2008 - Wall Street screwed American people for years through fraudulent mortgages and then bailed themselves out by getting taxpayer-funded loans while throwing 3 million people out of their homes. That's not loneliness.

    • @Stretesky
      @Stretesky 5 місяців тому +4

      This is a poorly assessed narrative, missing a ton, and misallocating.

    • @rabinraj15
      @rabinraj15 5 місяців тому +2

      Yet, it's the truth... Truth, oftentimes is bitter 😅 However, truth is vital for betterment 🙏🏽

    • @twelvecatsinatrenchcoat
      @twelvecatsinatrenchcoat 5 місяців тому

      The mortgages weren't "fraudulent", they were predatory. Americans took out loans they couldn't pay. Wall Street's crime was blocking the regulation of who was allowed to take out a mortgage so they could issue "NINJA" loans to "No Income, No Job Applicants."
      I graduated high school right before the 08 crisis. Seeing how recklessly my parents' generation and Gen X were playing with high interest debt at that time changed me. I didn't take out more than $500 in credit till I was about 30, and only then because I needed to build my credit score. I never carry a balance. Never took out student debt. And lived like a hermit for 10 years to save enough money to buy my home that's about 50% below what I could maximally afford just to be sure I could keep up with the payments.

    • @scottfortune1014
      @scottfortune1014 5 місяців тому

      It's junk. Of course it's global. The US has been a global predator since WW2, using its global financial instruments to hollow out the Global South, threatening its peer competitors, poisoning its poor citizens' towns air, soil, water, practising debt slavery at home & abroad, and sending the planet to a 6th mass extinction. It's OK to be sad but be v. v. angry. The speaker's a deflector, a make-up artist.

    • @DebraBashawPelsma-bg7rt
      @DebraBashawPelsma-bg7rt 5 місяців тому +1

      Agree

  • @treefrog3349
    @treefrog3349 6 місяців тому +67

    Why is it happening? Easy. Wealth = power. And power ensures further wealth. Noble, all-inclusive, "democratic" ideals continually fall by the wayside due to the specious rationalizations of oligarchs. Greed, is the underlying "Achilles heel" of the human species. As it has often been pointed out throughout global literature,"greed is blind". We, the human species, are dying from our own myopia.

    • @janecalby1387
      @janecalby1387 6 місяців тому +3

      Something like that-but not all humans are greedy or mean.

    • @AlanCoffey
      @AlanCoffey 6 місяців тому +2

      Competitive free markets are the BEST antidote to our natural greed.

    • @kreek22
      @kreek22 6 місяців тому +2

      Your diagnosis is too easy, too reductive to be true. Ideology cannot be discounted. It's the substitute for religion in the modern world.

    • @patrickvernon4766
      @patrickvernon4766 6 місяців тому +12

      We have monopoly capitalism we don not have free markets

    • @ribbrascal
      @ribbrascal 5 місяців тому

      ok c0mm13

  • @ARIZJOE
    @ARIZJOE 5 місяців тому +133

    Liberals aren't the problem, David. It's the unbridled effects of the marketplace, which are much more encouraged by conservatives. Brooks talks of individualism and privatization of morality as a function of liberalism. People on the left trend towards collective action, regulation, and support for the state. Rugged individualism is a corollary of libertarianism, a right-wing philosophy. It's David's conservative friends who have failed - relying on the free market for everything - including morality. Also, no mention here of deindustrialization, and at same time the effects of climate change making things just very hard on all of western society. The means of production matter.

    • @joyandrews3804
      @joyandrews3804 5 місяців тому +21

      I was told the market is more important than community. The market is about profit, not about people. It didn’t just affect the economy it’s affected how neighbours and friends and family treat each other. We were told by our government in the 1980s that individual responsibility was all important and too bad about anyone else. It was the beginning of a sense of hopelessness. We saw the wealthy get richer whilst the poor waited for the trickle down which never happened. In my opinion this is the reason why poor people in their desperation, have turned to politicians like Trump. They haven’t prospered under our prior political parties, so they turn to politicians who make empty promises. No wonder we are depressed! Now we are threatened with dictatorship.

    • @valoriethechemist
      @valoriethechemist 5 місяців тому +4

      Thank you for tying the observations in politics, community and families, I believe correctly, to climate change. The philosophy which has lead us to this era is failing us... and we see it all over.
      I hope more people begin understanding that we've entered a new age where everything comes down to and is exacerbated and made more problematic by a dying biosphere in extreme flux.

    • @ricardochavez8717
      @ricardochavez8717 5 місяців тому +5

      It is multifactorial, he is presenting but one dimension... and a great one to have on the table... If education is the matter, then we also need to look at who and how public education was defunded... going back easily 30+ years... and how it is dependent of property taxes already putting people in poorer districts at a double disadvantage.

    • @billturner2112
      @billturner2112 5 місяців тому +7

      when he was speaking of liberals, at least what i understood, was in the more historical context of free market liberalism - Libertarianism. See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_liberalism. It is often confused with political liberalism in this country. In Europe, the context is clearer. I do believe he muddied the waters at times, however.

    • @ARIZJOE
      @ARIZJOE 5 місяців тому

      @@billturner2112 Yes, I am an educated person, and I was confused by that. Brooks is looking at liberalism from philosophy. However, the confusion is intentional on his part. He wants to put the blame on progressive Democratic liberals. And to distract from the ill-conceived ideas of Conservative Reagan Republicans, of whom David Brooks was solidy behind.

  • @wlms5293
    @wlms5293 5 місяців тому +11

    Once again David Brooks exceeds my high regards in “World on Fire” at the Aspen Institute. After 2+ decades, his diligent journalism & inspirational commentary should no longer surprise me, but I’m delighted it does.

  • @devirama1
    @devirama1 5 місяців тому +70

    Having given up on American urban life, I have retired with my son's family in a small mountain town. Here in the northern Philippines, the indigenous people allow no one to own property except those who are born here. No one is homeless, most are religious, all are involved in the community, giving what they can when need arises for any of their people. Children are valued, elders like myself are taken care of by family, nature is treasured. I've come to believe that most of the world's troubles are caused by the rise of bloated cities where status, power, and money are thought to be "values." My son is a well-educated, privileged white man who gave up the prosperity religion for a simple life when he joined the Peace Corps and fell in love with the Filipino people. He married a native woman, raised four children, loves to cook, and enjoys his life. Americans who grow up in rural and small town circumstances know very well that their way of life is dying. They value it and go about protecting it in desperate, foolish ways. If Democrats could reach them with educational and social programs that honor traditional ways of life, they wouldn't fall for Trump and his bogus populism.

    • @andyw8095
      @andyw8095 5 місяців тому +1

      Thank you…

    • @feedtherich11
      @feedtherich11 5 місяців тому

      Religion is the cause of all evil.

    • @William.Driscoll
      @William.Driscoll 5 місяців тому

      ❤❤

    • @createone100
      @createone100 5 місяців тому

      Well said.

    • @kp6215
      @kp6215 5 місяців тому

      You are correct and I would love with you but my life was destroyed in 🇺🇸 because of incompetent medical care and chauvinistic system that still exists in 2024.

  • @Brian-nt1hh
    @Brian-nt1hh 5 місяців тому +25

    Makes me sad hearing this. My wife and I traveled 7000 miles and 28 stops in this country, it made me happy, mostly because of considerate well meaning people. I say look for and accept stable decent folks. Then you’ll find fulfillment. Peace

  • @todddowning5820
    @todddowning5820 5 місяців тому +31

    This talk did not go where I expected it to go.
    Kindness, compassion, generosity without expectation of something in return are all spiritual acts. I think you are spot on in stating that we are collectively suffer from a lack of spirituality.

    • @brokenrecord3523
      @brokenrecord3523 5 місяців тому +1

      What do you mean by "spirituality?" I don't have a real good handle on that concept.

  • @kathleenwebster7697
    @kathleenwebster7697 5 місяців тому +71

    David Brooks the depth, breadth, humor, humility and humanity of this is profoundly reassuring and appropriately challenging..

    • @maxheadrom3088
      @maxheadrom3088 5 місяців тому +5

      He's also a great lier ....

    • @sharoncrayton9062
      @sharoncrayton9062 5 місяців тому +1

      😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

    • @831Miranda
      @831Miranda 5 місяців тому +5

      David has been the best the conservative-capitalist movement has had to offer. But in this talk he demonstrates a blind spot: economic inequality! Governments MUST mediate (at least) Capitalism.

    • @breffnymadden3328
      @breffnymadden3328 5 місяців тому

      @@maxheadrom3088 Why is he a great liar?

    • @buzoff4642
      @buzoff4642 5 місяців тому

      @@breffnymadden3328 He's not so much a liar as grappling with his own blind spots.
      Do his fiscal incentives for collaborative efforts solve class divisions? As in, who would be attracted with fiscal incentives? Certainly not the coddled offspring of the well off.
      He speaks of covenant, yet lost his first family by putting his career first.
      He speaks of class advantage, but falsely attributes it to merit.
      Industry's fully engaged in classism. Entire buildings are dedicated to stratifying, via one type of employee: management, engineering, production offshore, with janitorial "subcontracted", who're 100% hispanic, working out of sight of their day workers.

  • @slide6strings
    @slide6strings 6 місяців тому +48

    Follow the money. The bottom 90-99% have lost purchasing power and wealth for forty years. I believe that drives all the other symptoms.

    • @EmbodyYourDivinity
      @EmbodyYourDivinity 6 місяців тому

      The

    • @kreek22
      @kreek22 6 місяців тому

      The bottom 90% also never get what they want politically. Who among them want open borders? Who wants fake free trade with China? Who wants anti-white racism everyplace? Who wanted to stay in Afghanistan for 20 years?

    • @golfinguru11
      @golfinguru11 5 місяців тому +6

      Piketty compiled a bunch of empires - each experienced similar stratification…each folded within a few generations. I hope he’s wrong but I’m not counting on it.

    • @TimMountjoy-zy2fd
      @TimMountjoy-zy2fd 5 місяців тому

      Yep but that's the bottom 10% - so what. There have always been poor and always a bottom 10% but what he is talking about is the majority ie the 20-80% who sit in the middle between poor and wealthy. The middle class that have been the rock of democratic stability.

    • @buzoff4642
      @buzoff4642 5 місяців тому

      @@TimMountjoy-zy2fd No, it isn't the bottom 10%. You're not paying attention. The middle class is evaporating.

  • @ichifish
    @ichifish 5 місяців тому +16

    So even though the most religious are the most populist, nationalistic, and authoritarian, the cure is to embrace faith?

    • @penandsword4386
      @penandsword4386 5 місяців тому +4

      I think this talk is is just conservativism in popular /academic clothing- -

    • @Inthemeanwhile
      @Inthemeanwhile 5 місяців тому +1

      Oh you will find faith, and religion. The question is, will it be in The Party, or in spirit world. Many choose God, many deny God, and put party loyalty above all logic, and reason. That is faith, some people believe in Fauci, some in Jesus.

    • @penandsword4386
      @penandsword4386 5 місяців тому +3

      @@Inthemeanwhile Yeah, yeah, Jesus. You're the winner, you got the magic word (Oy.)

    • @sandal_thong8631
      @sandal_thong8631 3 місяці тому

      The definition of faith is believing in something for which there is little to no evidence. He may as well have said that we need prayer in school. But of course they don't mean teacher leading Catholic prayers to the Virgin Mary, let alone a Muslim prayer, or pagan-Hindu prayers.

  • @jonwesick2844
    @jonwesick2844 6 місяців тому +34

    By David's definition, I'm an educated elite. I spent 10 years in college to get a Ph.D. in physics but I've never owned a home and have suffered lots of unemployment. I patched things together and made it to retirement but I don't feel like I did better than my parents.

    • @jdcharlwood
      @jdcharlwood 6 місяців тому +19

      Me too! 3 years unemployed and 2 years working without pay (used the time to read a large number of books from the ancients to the moderns). No house car etc and at 75 still looking for work. Considered a 'legend' in my field (malaria research) - traveled the world and so know that most people on this wonderful planet have it much worse than I do.

    • @jcg5541
      @jcg5541 6 місяців тому

      You’re not the type of educated elite David Brook is speaking of, unless you think you are a superior human because of your education, hence the term “elite”. It sounds like you are serving humanity, not lording over those less educated than you.

    • @kreek22
      @kreek22 6 місяців тому +7

      Overproduction of elites is a problem. Mostly, this is because some of these people end up with miscalibrated expectations about their professional prospects. Even people with garbage Ph.D.'s in fields like sociology think they're too good to do things like teach high school. I know two physics Ph.D.s who were more practical and did well in software for most of their careers.

    • @jonwesick2844
      @jonwesick2844 6 місяців тому +6

      @@kreek22 Fair enough but if they can't get a job because of overproduction, they're not elites.

    • @kreek22
      @kreek22 6 місяців тому +8

      @@jonwesick2844 Maybe, although it's a situation that reminds me of the many cases of aristocrats in "reduced circumstances" that one finds in European history. They were still deemed, tenuously, elite due to their titles. Degrees today are somewhat akin to titles of nobility. Certainly, people with advanced degrees, but limited wealth often think of themselves as elite socially, politically, intellectually.

  • @user-ti3vp9mt3z
    @user-ti3vp9mt3z 5 місяців тому +8

    I think its existencial fear that isolates us and then results in lonliness. One example - Fear of getting sick or in an accudent, then falling into financial abyss. Another- Fear of getting fired under At Will Employment. Another - Fear of police and the surveillance securtity state. People have to feel safe, but the monopolized, corporatized brutal economy twists our culture and interpersonal trust. I agree we are devolving into a cast society.
    A lovely discourse David.

  • @jaymacpherson8167
    @jaymacpherson8167 5 місяців тому +14

    David’s story after 51:00 is one of exercising community. In community we are at our best. I thank M. Scott Peck for teaching me this lesson.

  • @carlyar5281
    @carlyar5281 5 місяців тому +27

    Wow, he is completely missing the fact that the perception that the world is falling apart is not unique and new in most of the world.
    American exceptionalism never existed. What has existed for the last 80 years was a myth that only Americans held onto which is that they were exceptional.
    The trend around the world towards populism and authoritarianism is not surprising, and it’s not because of “liberal values”. So many examples he gives are not liberal democracies. What he fails to acknowledge is that it’s harder to create and sustain a democracy that it is to fall under authoritarian rule. 100 years ago, the same concerns about the downfall society and loss of morals and the degradation of the family, etc etc led to the rise of populism. Some of that populism had a socialist flare, but a lot of it also had an authoritarian. The most successful populist movements had socialist ideals, but worst spearheaded by authoritarians. This is why most Americans mistakenly conflate authoritarianism with communism. Right wing authoritarians and fascist never had the real support of their people and they rely solely on brute force and coercion rather than appealing to ideals, even if those ideals are never actually enacted.
    The reason why it takes roughly 100 years for the echos of history to come around is because it needs three generations and all firsthand memories to disappear. When he talked about the woman he interviewed in Russia, she was 93. That was in the mid 1990s. She saw Russia go through many changes and government always ending back with authoritarians. She would not have been alive when Putin made his deal with the Russian people that has led to his authoritarian rule for the last nearly 20 years. The people alive today remember communism, and they learn romanticize history of Russia before communism, but as Putin eroded Russian democracy in its infancy 20 years ago no one who remembered pre-communist Russian life was still alive to sound the alarms.
    Stop listening to political or theoretical commenters. Look at history. Never has a strong man ever acted in the best interest a nations population. But authoritarians use populism as a solution for everything that ails. They talk big, but they appeal to emotions, and will vilify logic, reason and “an intellectuals”.

    • @AdamBechtol
      @AdamBechtol 5 місяців тому

      Mmmm

    • @E-Liza-sg3ty
      @E-Liza-sg3ty 5 місяців тому +3

      I agree that humans have a tendency to romanticize the past instead of seeing the reality;that is one of the reasons why we have a hard time learning from our past.

    • @buzoff4642
      @buzoff4642 5 місяців тому

      No one hears their justified fury. Authoritarians, often air their own frustration, which attracts those who's demise is being ignored.

  • @bretolpp7680
    @bretolpp7680 5 місяців тому +8

    Grace under pressure is something I work to expect from myself. To explore from a secure space, this makes perfect sense. To have compassion to your fellow individuals; and if I might add,honesty when no one is looking is what all need to stive for. James Baldwin is a great example of taking the "High Road". Thank you for the talk!

  • @majozishow
    @majozishow 5 місяців тому +16

    I enjoyed this, very much.

  • @maxheadrom3088
    @maxheadrom3088 5 місяців тому +5

    8:58 I'll tell you something that may surprise you: Americans were never outliers - no group of humans were ever outliers, btw. It's not that you "aren't anymore" - you never were.

    • @carlyar5281
      @carlyar5281 5 місяців тому +3

      Shhhhh! Americans, don’t want to hear that the myth of American exceptionalism was just that, a myth!

  • @hopebless4697
    @hopebless4697 5 місяців тому +3

    Defiant humanism. Leave it to James Baldwin and David Brooks! Yes, yes, yes!

  • @danetcherry
    @danetcherry 5 місяців тому +3

    15:08 "it's not clear why this happening" - Jonathan Haidt has a pretty good idea about why that is happening, and Anna Lembke as well. + Social media is either a bubble or hatred. but mother of all ailments is the fact that big corporations don't pay their taxes, and that's global. No money to make society a place of justice, fosters individualism and to each their own.

    • @buzoff4642
      @buzoff4642 5 місяців тому

      Love your succinctness.

  • @LoSGatoS-pe9hk
    @LoSGatoS-pe9hk 5 місяців тому +5

    I promise you Mr. David brook that i will shout how great you are as voice of hope! Thanks for the tremendous inspiration and knowledge you dropped on us ❤

  • @tetianavarvynska2125
    @tetianavarvynska2125 5 місяців тому +22

    Liberalism is not bad per se, but liberalism married to capitalism is. The most dangerous liberalism was when we as western countries, as western societies said that growing the margin of profitability for the few business owners was more important than the sustainability of our communities and we took our blue collar work to countries with cheap labour. We put those workers out of money and families out of balance. Having a family and taking care of children is now something that is hard to afford for most. Most young people cant afford their own housing. Young people starting a family are supposed to work as if they dont have any kids and raise kids as if they don't have a job. Childcare is costly and right out puts young families at the threshold of barely making the ends meet. Is this really an issue of liberalism, or maybe it does have a lot more to do with the fact that money remains the only true value in the western societies? How do we treat the poor and the disadvantaged, are they equal members of the society? Do marginalised families have a fair access to healthcare and education for their kids? What about the minimum wage, is it livable, can one who does unqualified labor have a decent living situation? So is this really liberalism, you think?

    • @DanFeldman-Edge
      @DanFeldman-Edge 5 місяців тому

      Liberalism is the good cop of capitalism while fascism is the bad cop. Neither liberalism nor fascism can exist without capital accumulation, wage exploitation, biophysical extraction, and colonial imperialism.

    • @ethanadkins5638
      @ethanadkins5638 5 місяців тому +2

      I don't think that's the problem. The problem is liberalism and capitalism are chewing up the things that bind us together and make us whole.

    • @pauldandurandboots
      @pauldandurandboots 5 місяців тому +4

      That's called neoliberalism, not liberalism. Most of the concerns David pointed out with the "individualization" from "liberalism" is more inline with neoliberalism. Neoliberalism stands for a much smaller role in the government and believes that government and community support gets in the way of the free market. They believe that true unregulated capitalism and the focus on the individual is the natural order for an self growing society. If David would have used the word neoliberalism instead of liberalism, then I believe he would have been more spot on.

    • @NotIdefix
      @NotIdefix 5 місяців тому

      Brooks defines "liberalism" as the ability to make individualistic choices
      but he fails to see the historical transition of WHY we make these choices
      we used to make these choices with the benefit of our family/community/country in mind
      we then changed to make choices based on more and more individualistic, selfish reasons
      but now we make decisions out of spite.....to purposefully hurt others......even if it is to our own detriment
      that's why things are so bad

    • @davidrobertson9271
      @davidrobertson9271 5 місяців тому

      I’m now a resident of Denmark because of Brexit. Skandinavian social democracy is the way!

  • @ephraimsenbetta5357
    @ephraimsenbetta5357 5 місяців тому +1

    Davis Brooks, I can listen to you all day with pleasure. Your are thoughtful, humble, and able to say a lot with just a few words. God bless you.

  • @cheersmodreams691
    @cheersmodreams691 5 місяців тому +24

    David Brooks has a talent for stating great insights succinctly in short rapid-fire pieces of wisdom. I feel a need to digest and memorize all of them. If I succeed, I will be a better person and those around me will benefit. I'm 74 so I better get on with it.

  • @aghassimkrtchyan6323
    @aghassimkrtchyan6323 5 місяців тому +1

    I typically disagree with 60-70 percent that brooks writes or says, but this is one is very meaningful. Thanks

  • @jameskinney4543
    @jameskinney4543 6 місяців тому +37

    David is one of my favorites. One of the greatest thinkers of our time. A true conservative in the best way.

    • @everythingandmore5537
      @everythingandmore5537 6 місяців тому +3

      He didn't mention of right wing populism in israel

    • @catfoodgeneration
      @catfoodgeneration 6 місяців тому +13

      David is one of the most mediocre thinkers of our era. I am appalled at his ubiquity.

    • @abditus5842
      @abditus5842 5 місяців тому

      David is another east coast elitist and not a conservative.

    • @jiahan3849
      @jiahan3849 5 місяців тому +2

      I used to watch him in PBS. Not anymore.

    • @donttrudd2310
      @donttrudd2310 5 місяців тому

      ​@catfoodgeneration To be an effective communicator you need to talk to your audience. If you use foreign concepts to the person or people you are talking with, and their gaze wanders, if you want to communicate you need to try another technique - use a different style of language or example that resonates. David watches his audience (be it one or a room full) and adjusts his communication - his words and examples until people's eyes fix on him again. His message, the concept he is trying to share doesn't change- just the style. So perhaps you couldn't grasp his message because you don't speak the language or have the life experiences this audience does.

  • @buzoff4642
    @buzoff4642 5 місяців тому

    We don't have meritocracy, we have credentialism. They aren't the same thing.
    David clearly did not learn from his own life. In his own life, by choice, left his first family behind, prioritizing his career. For others, employment dominates due to non-living wages and un/under employment in our repeated destablizing spasms of boom/bust. Flag and faith don't afford them economic stability to have a family life, as a "choice". Many, in fact, have decided the answer for them is to have no family, as in children. Others have left their extended families behind moving to other cities, states and nations, which the Far Left celebrate as though a good thing. Transience does not support the offline concept of community.
    Chaos, forewarned capitalist James Smith, of globalism. Due to it being a "divorce between the interests of the transnational corporations and those of society." And he was right.

  • @831Miranda
    @831Miranda 5 місяців тому +17

    David has always been a consertative. His blind spot seems to be the devastating effects of economic inequality. He admits the US is a caste😢 system today, but falls short of admiting that this is at the root of the instability and profoundly destructve stress on families! The neo-conservatives eroded to almost nothing the social pact of 'raising all boats' , of having a social safety net in times of crises, of protecting the weak, and nurturing the potential of those in poverty (both parties are guilty...there is no left in the US). When the majority is deeply insecure and afraid, how can we have hope and trust?

    • @quackslikeaduck
      @quackslikeaduck 5 місяців тому

      His other blind spot is the appearance of the front of his pants.

    • @sandal_thong8631
      @sandal_thong8631 3 місяці тому

      Not a fan of this guy. I'm always looking to see if he's two-faced on the Newshour. The title was a good one, that I'd put in my "watch later" list, but I groaned when I saw that it was David Brooks' views. Nothing much to take away from his opinions here.

  • @victoriaburkhardt9974
    @victoriaburkhardt9974 5 місяців тому +3

    Thank you for giving us this talk by the great David Brooks. Brilliant analysis!

  • @JamesCappleman
    @JamesCappleman 5 місяців тому +8

    I've listened to a lot of David Brooks over the years, but this one hits it out of the park. It was a bit depressing in the beginning, but on a deeper level, I already knew it to be true. The talk ended with me feeling more hope and confident that I have the tools to work with others to move us all forward.

  • @戏曲频道
    @戏曲频道 6 місяців тому +29

    17min in, is he saying there is no real problem except our psychological problem? ..........ok, I finished the whole lecture, and did some research on the guy, he supported Iraq war, he is the reason for all the problems in the world, and he has the audacity to come out and preach.

    • @deepattison9329
      @deepattison9329 5 місяців тому +4

      The Iraq war was about oil and money.

    • @penandsword4386
      @penandsword4386 5 місяців тому +1

      it would seem this talk may be conservativism in popular /academic clothing.

    • @PabloEColorado
      @PabloEColorado 5 місяців тому

      the Iraq war was by every definition a war crime. Bush, Cheney. What a travesty. what useless loss of human life. They spent trillions of dollars on destruction. Now we need drives so that kids will have pencils and paper in school.

  • @chickenfishhybrid44
    @chickenfishhybrid44 6 місяців тому +31

    On the subject of diversity, i think people need to start with admitting or accepting that it is harder and takes effort. For years now people have been gaslit into the idea it makes no different or been pressured into not talking about things like that at all.

    • @ER1CwC
      @ER1CwC 5 місяців тому +8

      I think the problem is that we too often talk about diversity but not disagreement. Being able to negotiate diversity ultimately requires the ability to work through disagreements. But too often diversity is seen as a position rather than a practice. So those who are allegedly in favour of diversity condemn those who are allegedly against it as bigoted, while those who are against it react defensively and/or decry those who are in favour of it as unpatriotic, woke, etc.. No one is listening to each other.

    • @ER1CwC
      @ER1CwC 5 місяців тому +3

      @@cfick Bowling Alone focuses primarily on voluntary associations. Brooks talks a lot about involuntary associations like the family here, so the focus is different. Ultimately, he is more small-c conservative than Putnam. Also, Bowling Alone is 25 years old and hackneyed by this point.

    • @cfick
      @cfick 5 місяців тому

      @@ER1CwC "hackneyed"...lol... David Brooks is hackneyed and shallow. Obviously the complete atomization of American society is the problem. Research shows that the more a culture lacks commonality the more all of these parade of horribles become more likely, at every level up to and including life expectancy.

    • @ER1CwC
      @ER1CwC 5 місяців тому +1

      @@cfick He is against right wing populism because he is not racist, xenophobic, and authoritarian. But I think what he would say is that diversity was promoted alongside meritocracy, and that the problem lies in meritocracy. It breeds a certain sense of entitlement and either paternalism or condescension towards those who don’t win the rat race. He has been writing about this theme since his essay The Organization Kid.

    • @tatersinger
      @tatersinger 5 місяців тому

      I think there's just not enough time to cover it all. But, it gets us talking about "bowling alone." ​@@cfick

  • @jeffreybaer3746
    @jeffreybaer3746 5 місяців тому +2

    Beautiful talk. Every point well thought out

  • @BillL1955
    @BillL1955 5 місяців тому +3

    I didn't know who you were. Now I do. (I seldom watch broadcast television or read the NYT. ) I just watched this video. It was mesmerizing! Your content was concise and insightful. It was also a little mind-bending and got me thinking differently. Thanks for sharing! I look forward to reading your books.

  • @kaskinkead6476
    @kaskinkead6476 5 місяців тому +5

    Thank you David! Your thoughtfulness and vision give me hope

  • @larrybaisden6648
    @larrybaisden6648 5 місяців тому +8

    Wow~! Very insightful. Thank you David, and thank you Aspen Institute.

  • @careerecology
    @careerecology 5 місяців тому +1

    I am not in agreement with David Brook's take. From deep contemplations and research, I see the core issue being patriarchy. Human beings for the vast majority of our species development were prey animals. Once we moved to predator and then to apex predator, we went mad. Killing seemed to appease the human psyche's fear of death. When we look at lions, they hold the position of steward in their ecosystems - not apex predator. They are balanced and in harmony with their environment. Humans, on the other hand, create blood rites and wars, racism and misogyny to appease fear of dying. It is time in human evolution to finally move away from patriarchy and into mutual stewardship. It's not natural for men to rule the world. To do this, our culture severs men's access to their compassionate hearts. It forces men away from their holistic selves. Our boys are dying and killing from this lack of wholeness. I often run the thought experiment of imagining a world where women and men participate in decision making, equally. A world where radical diversity was embraced, not feared. Patriarchy is wrong and unnatural - and it erodes society because society becomes bereft of feelings and compassion.
    Leadership is key in complex social systems, yes, but it thrives in systems like wolf packs (where a female and male wolf share the helm). David Brooks fails to recognize the fundament truth that women have been suppressed through the rise of modern culture and as a result, so has compassion. The rise of right wing populism is connected to despair being hijacked by power brokers desperate to keep patriarchy alive (just ask Steve Bannon . . he's fighting like hell to juice it). But divine love will not sustain systems based on fear and loathing.
    Notice how all the people David Brooks quotes are men - no women. The age before us is "the great compassion". It's time to call on women to help heal society. Rwanda did it this way. We need to as well . . .

  • @AH-ml4vi
    @AH-ml4vi 5 місяців тому +7

    Here in UK Labour achieved huge victory over the (centre) right party of the Conservatives. The far right party Reform got just 4 seats despite its leader Farage getting way more attention in the press than he deserved, more attention than Liberals who got 71 seats, more attention than Greens who got the same number of seats, 4.
    What conclusions:
    People want change and Conservatives had been in power for 14 years so Labour is considered a change. Different to USA whereby Republicans/Democrat parties have switched in/out of power and until Trump where viewed as a uni-party. With the gap between rich and poor increasing this labelled both parties as failures for the majority.
    2. Why are candidates like Farage getting all the attention. Whose interest is it to bring Farage like characters to the front.
    Raise money to solve housing crisis, fix roads, improve public healthcare all the things that affect and improve the lives of the majority. The feeling at the moment is that parties favour the wealthy only.

    • @chrisinnis270
      @chrisinnis270 5 місяців тому +2

      If the UK had proportional representation, the allocation of seats would have been very different!

    • @fsaldan1
      @fsaldan1 5 місяців тому

      Total absolute baloney. Labor only got 33% of the vote. Their "victory" was due to the right splitting into two.

    • @buzoff4642
      @buzoff4642 5 місяців тому +2

      "parties favour the wealthy only"
      That's not a feeling, that's a reality. In UK, US, EU, Australia, Japan.

    • @kiwitrainguy
      @kiwitrainguy 4 місяці тому

      Of course Farage being Farage, if Reform got in to power and failed to fix the housing, roads, healthcare, education, etc, he would blame it all on immigrants and the UK would see even more riots and the burning of mosques.

  • @globalpeace1684
    @globalpeace1684 2 місяці тому

    David Brooks is an amazing journalist! I listen to him every week on PBS. Like him, I am also centrist. I think the majority of people are somewhere in the center. I am really sorry about the state of the world. It just breaks my heart and worry about future generations. What should we do to fix it?

  • @aaronclifton9905
    @aaronclifton9905 5 місяців тому +7

    I’d be interested to see as far as the rise of social media and mainstream media with the shifting of “truth” to subjective rather than objective mixed with emotional states of fear perpetuating everyday life and future. What does what we consume play into our ability to see the “otherness” of other people? How does “my” right reflect in “others” right. Who hold the keys to truth?

    • @buzoff4642
      @buzoff4642 5 місяців тому

      The public's been fed a steady diet of half truths. Literally, half truths, from both sides of the aisle. I discovered that, with Romney's "46% pay no taxes". I went and found that report, true, 46% pay no taxes. Whole truth: 45% are elderly in poverty and students who only work 13 weeks a year. The other remaining 1% are _the_ 1%.
      Whole Truth Matters
      "others" are those who interfere with the functioning of community and culture. We've had immigrants coming for as long as we've been alive. Now, as has been the case historically, the public rises to furious, when importing a worker glut to deliberately displace citizens at work. Chinese Exclusion Act was born from wholesale layoffs of citizens, to replace them with Chinese workers. Much as is occurring now.
      Whole Truth Matters

  • @jessicaintl
    @jessicaintl 5 місяців тому +2

    My children were homeless for 11 months, but got great educations at highly respected Universities, and are great LIBERAL adults who don't buy into the populist poor person far right.

  • @carolgirl29
    @carolgirl29 5 місяців тому +5

    So people are lonely and depressed and look to a 'strong man' to solve their problems? Not me, I solve my own problems.

    • @buzoff4642
      @buzoff4642 5 місяців тому +4

      Your typed comment made it to google's server, due to my work, and thousands of others.
      Hermits solve their own problems. The rest of us are co-dependent.

  • @fromeveryting29
    @fromeveryting29 5 місяців тому +2

    This is, frankly, a horribly arrogant and extremely poor analysis. It’s not that a mystical «spiritual decline» has gripped the world and made us lonely and spiteful, and THEN becoming politically polarized. That assumption is not at all justified, on the contrary.
    It’s the economic conditions, and that is so extremely painfully obvious in both the data and the academic work of philosophers, historians, economists and psychologists.
    We live in a system that requires exploitation of the many for profit. That is how capitalism works. The system isn’t evil, but it encourages anti-social, individualistic and consumer-centered lifestyles. That’s why people feel lonely. That’s why people feel alienated from each other. That’s why the environment is going to shits and young people dread the future of more economic inequality (powerty) and a detoriorating environment. Or, others, get radicalized into wanting to BE the ones who exploit and «win» the economic system, and inedvertedly end up perpetuating the issues. It’s a matter of adressing the faults in our economic and political systems to stop the endless exploitation of those faults.
    We have economic elites who control politics for their own gain, making themselves richer and richer and the rest poorer and poorer, and fascism as an ideological deflection they use. Pointing to «the degenerates» and «immigrants» as the real problem, and not the economic system that empowers their anti-democratic abuse. The right is going full force into authoritarian fascism, claiming they stand for «freedom» (to abuse, dominate and exploit), whil oppressing every decent and minority.
    The solution IS to «join a team». The solution is to resist the urge to sit isolated in outrage, and to empower ourselves together to fight back against the ones who abuse democracy and exploit us. We can do that in organizations, unions, voting and activism.

    • @kenjmyer
      @kenjmyer 3 місяці тому

      Excellent analysis! Look at the top five happiest countries then see where they focus their resources. These are not countries that have a strong commitment to religious institutions. He might do better starting from existential evaluation.

  • @jcg5541
    @jcg5541 6 місяців тому +16

    The greatest trait of human beings is to “love your neighbor as yourself”, including your enemy. It’s that simple.

    • @excaliburironforce9908
      @excaliburironforce9908 5 місяців тому +2

      If it was that simple, humanity's history, especially since WW2 wouldn't be so😓

    • @tatersinger
      @tatersinger 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@user-cr4vb4zb6w how did you come to that conclusion from their statement?

    • @ribbrascal
      @ribbrascal 5 місяців тому +1

      It's that naively simplistic, rather.

    • @buzoff4642
      @buzoff4642 5 місяців тому

      @@ribbrascal There's nothing naive about it. We're all on the uphill of learning curve. What we're learning, varies.

  • @createone100
    @createone100 5 місяців тому +1

    ‘Escape From Freedom’ by Erich Fromm.

  • @jaggillar6680
    @jaggillar6680 5 місяців тому +5

    David Brooks at Aspen. What could be more predictable?

  • @Zkbbkzzz
    @Zkbbkzzz 5 місяців тому +4

    The statements about education and wealth does not ring true to me, although I do believe it’s true for the very rich. My parents born in the depression, grew up illiterate in cotton fields. Their generation were able to earn a living without an education. They were able to retire with a pension so they didn’t have to rely solely on SS. Their generation and the baby boomers could move into middle class and beyond without education. What changed is corporate greed and trickle down economics. Being educated became known as going into debt and so many of those folks also worked in the same jobs as uneducated folks. Today having a college education means being poor, in debt and being poorly educated.

    • @wlms5293
      @wlms5293 5 місяців тому

      “Trickle Down” economics is sorta like “Pissing up a Rope” & please excuse my crass smiley to history’s past/present/ ??future??

    • @buzoff4642
      @buzoff4642 5 місяців тому +2

      I remember as a kid, waitresses being able to afford an apartment. Today, their takehome pays don't even take them home.
      Min wage is $2.13 an hour for tipped workers, for 30 years now.

  • @lizmarron3999
    @lizmarron3999 5 місяців тому +8

    You have this exactly right and accurate.
    It’s a global issue now, and what’s frightening is how many of us have our heads in 2:13 The sand!!!!
    Thank you David Brooks for this excellent lecture.

  • @mariondean8499
    @mariondean8499 5 місяців тому +8

    Personally I think a lot of people get fired because of incompetent managers. I disagree with him there.

    • @edwardboe7290
      @edwardboe7290 5 місяців тому +5

      The a-holes that aren't fired become bosses.

    • @gregggordon7798
      @gregggordon7798 5 місяців тому

      @@edwardboe7290 That's what I was going to say.

    • @kiwitrainguy
      @kiwitrainguy 4 місяці тому

      The (ex)-employees of Sears would agree with you.

    • @sandal_thong8631
      @sandal_thong8631 3 місяці тому +1

      There's a saying that you get promoted to your level of incompetence. That is, you may be doing your job well, but your skill set might not be suited for the next position. After which you stop getting promoted. So in a really big company, over time they become filled with incompetents.
      Not sure if I agree with the Dilbert principle's version where they promote bad engineers to management to get them away from the people they need to do the work.

  • @DK-ys2cw
    @DK-ys2cw 5 місяців тому +22

    Wow, just wow. I have listened to David on PBS in short snippets. This is another level.

    • @ribbrascal
      @ribbrascal 5 місяців тому +3

      Yes, another level of incoherence, cowardice and nervousness.

    • @buzoff4642
      @buzoff4642 5 місяців тому

      @@ribbrascal He's uphill on his learning curve, a hill of what's currently derisively called privilege. He's trying, which is far more than others are attempting...

  • @Matt-fs1yy
    @Matt-fs1yy 5 місяців тому +25

    Social media created ALL of this. I remember life without it. Life without social media was better than today.

    • @NotIdefix
      @NotIdefix 5 місяців тому +6

      social media derives income from outrage.....and mainstream media has followed suit to try and compete
      so no wonder that people are "sadder and meaner"

    • @dontdoit6986
      @dontdoit6986 5 місяців тому +1

      Social Media amplifies negativity for people who are on social media, but life was not unicorns and rainbows before social media. I think we tread dangerously close to making excuses for political and business leaders when we cast blame on social media.

    • @buzoff4642
      @buzoff4642 5 місяців тому +1

      @@NotIdefix True. I noticed 25 years back a hierarchy of civility level, based on communication type. Best behavior in person. Next down the list was on the phone. Last was email, often people don't response at all.
      The unaccountable anonymity of online brings out the worst, in the worst.
      But, I do hear, on the political thread, it is 9% (Far Left/Far Right) generating all the hostility and noise. While the rest of us are assumed by them to be one of the two.

    • @buzoff4642
      @buzoff4642 5 місяців тому +1

      @@dontdoit6986 Look under the hood, of Far Left/Far Right. Who benefits? I come to the same conclusion as you, politicians and business leaders.

    • @kiwitrainguy
      @kiwitrainguy 4 місяці тому

      @@NotIdefix Mainstream media hasn't followed social media, if anything it's been the other way round. News programmes started to go for sensationalism starting about the time of the Vietnam war (although to look at the news programmes from those days you wouldn't say that it existed but that just shows how bad this has become). Come to think of it, sensationalism started with print media back in the 19th century.

  • @edwardgreacen1833
    @edwardgreacen1833 5 місяців тому +1

    David Brooks says it like it matters. And it does. Thank you, sir!

  • @indiebaby
    @indiebaby 5 місяців тому +5

    It's hard to be optimistic when it's so expensive to... i dunno.... JUST EXIST. I don't believe it's really as complicated as rich people are pretending it is because they don't want to pay their fair share of taxes.

  • @normanbonk8064
    @normanbonk8064 3 місяці тому

    Very insightful. Another layer that I have been thinking about for a long time is the fact that technology is developing much faster than the average human mind can keep up with. As a result, most people feel lost, overwhelmed, underequipped, vulnerable and left behind. Prayers.

  • @williamhinchcliff6290
    @williamhinchcliff6290 5 місяців тому +3

    The rise of social media matches the symptoms and statistics David talks about. This new form of information distribution mirrors what happened with the rise of radio; spread of disinformation and the coalescence of populism/authoritarianism.

  • @Sharpy7562
    @Sharpy7562 5 місяців тому +1

    I avoid community now too many agendas and post Covid saw all biases in hostile community , only support close family and friends. No more media or gvt or talking to strangers for me and as lot happier. Also working less

  • @BradleyLayton
    @BradleyLayton 5 місяців тому +4

    Great closing. After watching Trump get creamed in his Trump University deposition, I can just envision Donnie as a boy getting berated by his father. I also see a lot of Trump's followers also a people who were mistreated or ostracized as children or young adults who now see Trump as their means of "getting even." Time to show compassion rather than derision and to pull ourselves together to solve looming issues that affect us all.

    • @AnnGastle
      @AnnGastle 5 місяців тому

      So accurate!!!!! ✅️

  • @modfather1965
    @modfather1965 4 місяці тому

    David Brooks is one of the most trustworthy public commentators currently in existence...

  • @adelevet
    @adelevet 5 місяців тому +4

    Secure the family, secure the flag, secure the faith? I hope there are additional pathways to securing individuals’ foundations

  • @ursulacook9883
    @ursulacook9883 5 місяців тому +1

    So wonderful to hear someone state all that! So sad that so many people won't hear or listen!

  • @karylrader7159
    @karylrader7159 5 місяців тому +16

    Not clear why negativity is on the rise? Income inequality, climate crisis, corporate corruption, overpopulation…..

    • @Ryanlexz
      @Ryanlexz 5 місяців тому +4

      exactly don't forget wars

    • @JonDasBoot
      @JonDasBoot 5 місяців тому +3

      Things were much much worse 100 years ago. If you don't see how things have improved, you are part of the problem.

    • @CeciliaDCollins
      @CeciliaDCollins 5 місяців тому

      exactly my thoughts! The 3 items I said to myself before I read your post

    • @Ryanlexz
      @Ryanlexz 5 місяців тому +1

      @@JonDasBoot how things has improved?! Liberalism/globalization is the reason why Iraq, Afghanistan etc.. are in chaos

    • @JonDasBoot
      @JonDasBoot 5 місяців тому +2

      @@Ryanlexz I'm going to assume you don't know much about history. There have been massive improvements over the past 100 years. You may want to read Steven Pinker. Extreme poverty has dramatically declined. According to the World Bank, in 2019, about 9.2% of the world's population lived in extreme poverty, compared to over 68% in 1920. In 1920, the global average life expectancy was around 34 years. As of 2021, the global average life expectancy is about 72.6 years. In 1920, about 27% of children died before reaching the age of five. In 2020, the global under-five mortality rate was about 3.8%. In 2020, the global under-five mortality rate was about 3.8%. In the United States the homicide rate in the 1920s was around 9-10 per 100,000 people ... it is now 5 per 100,000.

  • @paulm6059
    @paulm6059 5 місяців тому +2

    It has always bothered me that the right gets to claim the U.S. flag.

  • @jess7150
    @jess7150 5 місяців тому +5

    Our society will rot without a strong middle class. That means corporations have to stop funneling the super majority of profits to a few at the top. Full stop. Nothing else matters if this is not addressed. while it is needed, no amount of generalized morality can fix this.

  • @Anabee3
    @Anabee3 4 місяці тому

    I could listen to David Brooks all day. He ties with David Suchet as my favorite orator of all time.

  • @gregmckenzie4315
    @gregmckenzie4315 5 місяців тому +3

    I'm not sure about how useful generalizations are right now. Our global assortment of governments and "civilizations" are obviously not doing what is needed to preserve our place near the top of the food chain. This is an historic time right now and all of us may need to prepare for changes we are unable to predict, and that many won't believe that they can survive.
    Life is short. It has to be. That is how we evolve. This is the time when we can make the most useful changes if we work together. Some people are frightened. But this is our best opportunity. If we stand up for the challenge...nothing else really matters.
    Get to know your neighbors. When the system collapses your neighbors will be your community. Our species is very resilient and pretty clever. But can we be clever enough? Right now our species, with our pollution, wars, chemical agriculture, nuclear waste and other great inventions like motorhomes, cheese popcorn, plastic straws, and bungie jumping...I have to admit that we really may be, the stupidest creature that have ever walked the Earth. It does not seem that our brains are up to the challenge of climate change. Perhaps we should open our hearts.
    We will all die. That's how it's always been. But each of us has a chance, during this critical moment, to perform wonders and to work miracles. That is also how it's always been.

  • @FishRandomPlaces
    @FishRandomPlaces 5 місяців тому +1

    This is exceptional. Such simple ideas presented brilliantly, without slant. We need more of this in our collective conscious.

  • @JoeGariano
    @JoeGariano 5 місяців тому +3

    This is one of the most insightful talks I've ever heard. It really helps us understand what to pray about.

  • @michaeljohn7398
    @michaeljohn7398 5 місяців тому +2

    A brilliant insight into the Human Condition. Top job Mate. Cheers from Michael. Australia.

  • @pjedhvajra
    @pjedhvajra 6 місяців тому +6

    I always appreciate your humility and compassion along with your BRILLIANT intellect.

  • @kj1483
    @kj1483 5 місяців тому +1

    50:56 Nick Epley, The Surprising Benefits of Talking to Strangers ....Originally published as Why Talking To Strangers Is Actually Good For Your Wellbeing
    Nick challenges us to embrace the depths of genuine connection - initiating these conversations can be a daunting task.
    Nick wrote the book “Mindwise: Why We Misunderstand What Others Think, Believe, Feel, and Want”
    Nick equips us with the tools to overcome our hesitations and dive headfirst into meaningful dialogue.
    Nick Epley is the John Templeton Keller Professor of Behavior Science and Director of the Center for Decision Research at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business. With his unparalleled expertise in social cognition, Nick sheds light on why understanding one another is often easier said than done.

  • @Servant_of_1111
    @Servant_of_1111 5 місяців тому +4

    Thank you for providing clarity on these issues! Happy Independence Day! 🇺🇸Internal independence fosters external responsibility, which leads to true freedom! 🙏

    • @ZainKhan-sm8gr
      @ZainKhan-sm8gr 5 місяців тому +1

      Loved you comment! Also found your "I had a dream" video really insightful and artistically curated :) Happy independence 🇺🇸 and prayers for your loss ❤

    • @Servant_of_1111
      @Servant_of_1111 5 місяців тому

      @@ZainKhan-sm8gr ~ Thank you very much! I had goose pimples reading your touching comment about “I had a dream video” on my UA-cam channel. Didn’t think anyone would react to it. 💐🥰🙏

  • @bobgold9535
    @bobgold9535 5 місяців тому +1

    Fascinating. Every American needs to watch this speech. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @iainmackenzieUK
    @iainmackenzieUK 6 місяців тому +16

    being into your phone on the train feels safer than talking to a real person. Risk free.
    By avoiding risk we are inviting isolation, loneliness, depression and enhancing fear of other.
    Just my experience.

    • @AffirmativeArtsOnTheRoad
      @AffirmativeArtsOnTheRoad 5 місяців тому +3

      I'm old enough (60) to remember when it was "normal" to talk to "strangers" at the cafe or the bar, or the counter at the neighborhood diner....or the manhattan neighborhood bus/subway or the coast to coast bus/train, neighborhood playground, park, the previously free NYC Rec Center Gym...the once affordable movie theater (now you're an asshole if you talk back to the dumbass...or occasionally OD smart....characters in the movie who obviously NEED OUR good and wise ADVICE, AM I RIGHT???), we couldjump up and down and shout our genius advice to the ball players (at "the Garden") without "annoying" or "triggering" our seat neighbors.......hell, I remember a time when it was "normal" to talk to the driver of the car you were lucky enough to be hitch-hiking in....that's how I met Cher, Bill Murray, Hunter S. Thompson...oh, that famous actor...always plays jerks or worse...ugh...his name will come to me before I'm ready to hit "send". Oh, yes, THAT'S IT: JACK....Jack Nicholson, AND countless non-famous mostly very very cool people who also were not afraid to pick me up and drive me to school in their cars. and talk to me...tell me stories of their lives, politely listened to my dumb/pseudo-deep....traumatized runaway adolescent poems I'd memorized....who would often ask me *actually* deep/existential questions I could not answer, , but which were valuable and thought provoking for me...I wouldn't have ever grown into myself without all those kinda baffling, over-my-empty-head, fascinating conversations with strangers in their cars on freezing cold, early Rocky Mountain icy road mornings, when you REALLY need to trust the driving skills of strangers while they talked and appeared to also listen., when they should have been just focusing on staying on the correct side of the slick and curvy road....They were all nice and kind...generous, some drove me the few extra miles out of their way to get me to my Aspen High School classes on time (which was a 35-45 minute walk from the highway)...none of them "bothered me" and I never "bothered" them, or maybe I must have been annoying at times, but you know what I mean....... they were NOT afraid of me...nor I of them...back in the 70's when we could wear "vintage" 1950's clothing, read Kerouac, listen to jazz, cut our bangs very very short and imagine looking mad cool while hacking and coughing while pretending to smoke because we stupidly thought it made us look "cool" when it only actually made us look stupid.......and hitch-hike coast to coast without (TOO much fear)...I EVEN remember when it was "normal"....even, just fine, to go to friends's homes and ring their doorbell without prior plans....back when it was even truly FINE to just out of the blue CALL a friend on the phone without texting first to ask if it's ok to call....back when few of us actually had a working doorbell, so we actually just threw pennies at their window until we actually hit the right window and got their attention so they could throw the keys out the window so we could walk up the 6 flights without them having to come down to let us in....my daughter used to CRINGE WITH EXTREME EMBARRASSMENT WHEN I WOULD RANDOMLY STRIKE UP CONVOS WITH STRANGERS...where-ever...bus stop, diner, PLAYGROUND, anywhere....her generation found it SHOCKING, TOTALLY CRAZY, INAPPROPRIATE, COMPLETE LUNACY, TRIGGERING, TRAUMATIZING, WEIRD, WHY WOULD YOU EVEN WANT TO, ANYWAY? HOW COULD YOU EMBARRASS ME SO? JUST TALKING TO SOMEONE, ANYONE, ABOUT NOTHING, OR ANYTHING, FOR "NO REASON"...."WHAT'S REALLY WRONG WITH YOU"???
      NOW, WE HAVE LOST ANY SENSE OF THE "COMMONS"...NOW EVERY SPACE IS A COMMERCIAL, TRANSACTIONAL SPACE, AND INTERACTIONS ARE STRICTLY LIMITED TO TRANSACTIONS...YOU GET TO FEEL LIKE A HUMAN WHO ACTUALLY EXISTS AND MATTERS ONLY WHILE *PAYING FOR SOMETHING* YOU MAY OR MAY NOT EVEN WANT...BUT YOU JUST WANT TO FEEL SEEN FOR A FEW SECONDS...SORRY, NOT "YELLING" I accidentally hit capslock and I cannot retype (BAD ARTHRITIS)....I'll bet you can understand....WELL ANYWAY, I REMEMBER A TIME WHEN PEOPLE *LIKED* TO TALK TO ONE ANOTHER....SOMETIMES EVEN ABOUT MEANINGFUL IDEADS, SOMETIMES WE EVEN TOOK 'RISKS' AND MADE NEW FRIENDS OUT OF RANDOM IRL CONVOS! IMAGINE THAT!!!!
      OOPS...NOT-"YELLING"....AGAIN...CAPSLOCK TROUBLES AGAIN...
      YOUR COMMENT WAS OBVIOUSLY VERY EVOCATIVE FOR ME...I HOPE I HAVEN'T "CROSSED YOUR BOUNDARIES" OR "TRIGGERED...TRAUMATIZED...SHOCKED" YOU BY JUST STARTING TO TALK TO YOU WITHOUT ASKING FOR WRITTEN PERMISSION BEFOREHAND....I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT. I WISH UA-cam COMMENT SECTIONS WERE MORE INTERACTIVE. NO ONE EVER ACKNOWLEDGES MY COMMENTS...EVEN ON THE OCCASIONS WHEN I MAKE A REAL EFFORT TO WRITE SOMETHING WORTHWHILE, WITH EVEN ACCURATE SPELLING......I ALWAYS TRY TO ACKNOWLEDGE OTHERS, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY EVER NOTICE, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK ANYONE EXPECTS OR IMAGINES THEY WILL BE SERIOUSLY/MEANINGFULLY, RESPONDED TO HERE....POSSIBLY DON'T EVEN WANT TO BE RESPONDED TO....THAT MAKES ME SAD. I'M GLAD I DON'T HAVE TO LIVE THAT MUCH LONGER IN SUCH AN UNTRUSTING, LONELY WORLD. I'M NOT IMAGINING TRYING TO MAKE FRIENDS WITH YOU BECAUSE HONESTLY, I'M TOO DISHEARTENED TO BE A GOOD FRIEND ANYMORE...I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND ANYONE TRYING TO BEFRIEND ME, AT THIS POINT, THIS WAS NOT ALWAYS THE CASE, BUT IT IS NOW....THE WORLD AS IT IS HAS MADE ME WEIRD....MAYBE, OR MAYBE I JUST *SEEM* WEIRD COMPARED TO HOW PEOPLE ARE NOW. I JUST RESPONDED TO YOUR COMMENT TO SHOW YOU MY RESPECT AND APPRECIATION FOR YOUR COMMENT. I'm STILL *not* "yelling"...AT ALL...the capslock key is my nemesis....I wish you well.

    • @iainmackenzieUK
      @iainmackenzieUK 5 місяців тому +3

      @@AffirmativeArtsOnTheRoad Not sure where to start. I am just getting up - on holiday from school now - II am 64 and teaching Physics in China. You have a great writing style so I feel a little jealous and intimidating myself with your words. But here goes anyway -
      I am British but also was hitch hiking in USA in the 80's. Summer camp in New Hampshire in 1985 and then hitched to Pensilvania where I spent 10 days working on an Amish farm - just walked up to Chris and asked for some work. 10 Dollars a day for 10 days. As he wrote the check, it felt like a thousand dollars. . These days you would have to pay for a cultural experience like that.
      Anyhow - no point complaining about today. You can see, for example, from this conversation that there are still enough of us around. And I dont think things were so different in some ways back then. Everyone warned me that hitching in the USA you would get shot. All i got was generosity and a warm welcome. One guy drove me to my destination in his sports car just for something to do - and because he loved driving in his car. As for conversations - I was always amazed at how easy it was for driver and hitch hiker (in UK, Europe and USA) to open up - knowing we would never meet again offers a different kind of confidentiality i guess.
      Judging by the temperament of the vast majority of my students, human being still need and value each other. Like gold diggers, or astronomers we seek a way to one another's souls. And, thus, to our own. Or else whats the point in it all?
      Thanks for your reply. Enjoy whats left of your life. Dont let the cynical winds of the world erode your delicate beauty. Keep exercising those hands - keep the blood flowing. Keep writing to strangers. The end will come soon enough and that's the glorious, final part of this mystery and miracle.
      Good to share - take good care :)

    • @franjkav
      @franjkav 5 місяців тому

      Some people just don’t wanna talk. Speak for yourself

    • @iainmackenzieUK
      @iainmackenzieUK 5 місяців тому +1

      @@franjkav Thats true - of course. But I think you miss my point. Not that I expect everyone to get my point. It is what it is

    • @joythought
      @joythought 5 місяців тому +1

      ​​​​@@iainmackenzieUK thanks for the effort you are making here. I have problems adding comments to UA-cam. UA-cam generally deletes everything that I type in unless I quickly make edits to it and save it again. That's hit and miss. So we'll see if this message ever sticks around.
      I'm 56 and based in Oz. I appreciate what David is saying. When I travel I like to strike up conversations with others. I feel like we can share little windows into each other's lives and I find that really rewarding...
      While many people just may wish not to have to talk with others I do think many more people have a better day just by having real conversations with people as they go about their day.

  • @kj1483
    @kj1483 5 місяців тому +1

    6:50 David Brooks was in Moscow, Boris Yeltsin on tank defying old-guard Coup
    interviewed a 93 year old women, she told of succession of personal family tragedies in her lifetime in Russia
    David Brooks is a Canadian-born American conservative political and cultural commentator who writes for The New York Times.

  • @judgeblodgett
    @judgeblodgett 5 місяців тому +3

    So wonderful to hear you my friend.

  • @paulmoulton5932
    @paulmoulton5932 5 місяців тому

    Great summary of our social, moral, and spiritual crisis and its connection to global politics. I especially appreciated his summary of data regarding society's loneliness, etc.

  • @Guitargate
    @Guitargate 5 місяців тому +8

    Wow. There’s so much gold here, delivered so succinctly.

  • @louiseobrien2010
    @louiseobrien2010 4 місяці тому

    David Brooks is exceptional as always.

  • @Prisoner_844
    @Prisoner_844 6 місяців тому +6

    If people used these statistic to reorient how are society functions and try to actually solve these things. And discuss them openly with the public so they can be informed. And contribute to solving these things.

    • @buzoff4642
      @buzoff4642 5 місяців тому

      We have that, statistics driven economy. As is the case with all science, the outcome goals along with the metrics used to measure are the drivers. And right now, that is wholly centered on rate of growth of profits. Not the growth of profits, the rate at which it grows. It's sucking all of the value of labor, from workers, driving populations into poverty. It was at first sucking out workers' free time, but has increased to include rock bottom wages.
      When I was growing up long ago, persistent 5% returns was considered great.

  • @alanbute8781
    @alanbute8781 4 місяці тому

    I really liked you on NPR, after you talked about your book, I lost that like a little, but then your talk in Aspen, I’m back, I really, really like you! Well said! Thank you. May even evpurchase your book now, Cheers, stay the course please…

  • @jillcicerostoryheadjill
    @jillcicerostoryheadjill 5 місяців тому +10

    Somebody needs to ask Mr. Brooks to clarify and expound upon his view of reactionary lgbtq policies, because I'd like to hear his solution of inclusion that doesn't fall back on bigotry or ignorance.

  • @ibeetellingya5683
    @ibeetellingya5683 5 місяців тому

    Money, Power, Fear, Sadomasochism.

  • @Prisoner_844
    @Prisoner_844 6 місяців тому +7

    This gentleman’s work is fundamentally the most important that I think there is for this new age of technology and social decline. If we only listened to him more and problem solved accordingly we could really change the culture and politics for the better.

  • @sparkythancztwise
    @sparkythancztwise 5 місяців тому +1

    This was disappointing. He ends on a failed trope. It fails if one is confronted with the worst of bad actors. They only register weakness, not empathy. Yeah, to maintain the state of mind James Baldwin espoused can (in some circumstances) help some people feel better (and does contribute less to escalating widespread conflicts). Yet if his intention was to propose a mollifying or encouraging perspective, what he delivered does not remotely begin to *solve* even one of our biggest problems we are facing in our plight as the state of the nation and the state of the world deteriorates. It seems to me everything he said is obvious. And he oversimplified numerous issues. Then left us hanging with impotency.
    Oof. Terrible *unintentional/unplanned* word play there. 😆But I'm leaving it for levity.
    [I'm not a male and never was in circumstances to console or cope with ED, and recognize it's no laughing matter for many, so apologies if my choice to leave the words may sting as insensitive for anyone.]

  • @ArtiodactylaSlayer
    @ArtiodactylaSlayer 5 місяців тому +3

    Michael J. Sandel in his book The Tyranny of Merit covers the issue of how our education system has been manipulated, abandoned, and disinvested to benefit of the neoliberal few.

    • @buzoff4642
      @buzoff4642 5 місяців тому +1

      Except Harvard, and the rest of society isn't operating on merit.
      It's classism. Current trend it's built on, credentialism.
      My current favorite economist calls universities hedge funds with an education overlay, due to their extreme endowment funds.

  • @janengland6478
    @janengland6478 5 місяців тому

    Great talk and insights by David Brooks. Thank you Mr. Brooks!

  • @DanCorkery-s6g
    @DanCorkery-s6g 5 місяців тому +3

    Such a intelligent and nice man 😊

  • @heatherlesliehammer3996
    @heatherlesliehammer3996 5 місяців тому

    This too I believe. It sounds like one of your favorites, and mine, Viktor Frankl. There is always time to choose life. Thank you. (I'm a pastor and reader of your column.)

  • @SteveBrant55
    @SteveBrant55 5 місяців тому +14

    I enjoyed watching this a lot. And I have not been a fan of David's past PBS Newshour appearances when he was a "Trump apologist" (saying "That's just Trump being Trump" back in the day). I can tell he know knows Trump is part of an existential threat to democracy (showing he is capable of learning new things)... and I really appreciate all he says here about the root causes of the crisis we are in here in America.

    • @wildmouse5888
      @wildmouse5888 5 місяців тому

      After the 2016 election, Brooks went on a tour of the Midwest to see where he went wrong. It is obvious that he didn't learn a thing.

  • @KW-qd9vq
    @KW-qd9vq 5 місяців тому +2

    Great talk! Deep, meaningful, insightful and he had the receipts (data). The one thing that came to mind most likely to be correlated to the global negativism and depression, especially in girls/women, is the iPhone and social media exploding around 2012. It seems like 2008 started more negative headlines, and maybe that flavor got swept up, and echoed to the 10th power with the IPhone around 2012 and beyond??

  • @robwealer5416
    @robwealer5416 6 місяців тому +4

    Some contradiction... first part of speech said happiness, viability, longevity was predicted by educational achievement and 2nd half claimed it was not a predictor of success.

    • @musoid6308
      @musoid6308 5 місяців тому

      Yeah, astute observation. Could it be that advantages people with a college education got through, in general, their more privileged childhoods, more secure homes, music lessons etc., were more the determining factors in their better well-being stats through their lives than perhaps the grades themselves? Just thinking out loud.

    • @buzoff4642
      @buzoff4642 5 місяців тому

      @@musoid6308 The misleading quagmire is right there: "in general". Demographic blocking. Political blocking. It's leading to ... block heads!

  • @aqualee3198
    @aqualee3198 5 місяців тому +1

    ❤❤Thank you! David Brooks for such a thoughtful presentation.

  • @joanhartman399
    @joanhartman399 5 місяців тому +9

    Thank GOD for David Brooks! Hope and direction in this time of fear........

  • @karltitz1725
    @karltitz1725 4 місяці тому

    The difference between our time and this time is many of our parents followed the passage on parenting from Kahil Gibran. Today parenting seems to be about moulding children to the parent’s belief system instead of equipping children to chart their path into THEIR FUTURE.

  • @ronkrate609
    @ronkrate609 6 місяців тому +13

    These troubles would be much improved if he bottom 80% had twice their present income.

    • @awuma
      @awuma 5 місяців тому +1

      I wonder if that is true. I well remember visiting Communist Poland over 50 years ago and comparing poor areas of Poland with poor areas in North America. People in Poland were materially much poorer than, say, those in the "slums" of America where many had cars and other seeming luxuries, but it was perfectly safe to walk in the streets at night in Poland but not so in America. The highly educated were often just as poor as the uneducated, and there was a lot of political resentment at the authoritarian parvenus running the country, but people were not demoralised, and the level of culture was very high. Culture is at least as important as wealth or poverty. Social cohesion is very important.

    • @franjkav
      @franjkav 5 місяців тому +1

      @@awumanothing about what you’re describing indicates social cohesion is particularly important.

    • @buzoff4642
      @buzoff4642 5 місяців тому +1

      @@awuma Stability matters.
      People would tune their lives to their income, if income and outgoing were stable. Did you know min wage for tipped labor is $2.13 an hour, and has been for 30 years? Do tell who could live off of that. Who's purpose it serves? Yes, street crime rises, in proportion to crime levels on Wall St.
      Then there's the instability of boom/bust cycles of those banking scams busting down the middle class. Buy a house, lose the house. Win/win for Wall St.

    • @sandal_thong8631
      @sandal_thong8631 3 місяці тому

      Maybe there was something to take away from his drivel. And that is the turning point may have occurred during the '07 housing crisis and Great Recession. Some people had homes underwater, whether from buying them with variable rate mortgages they didn't understand or getting home improvement loans they couldn't pay back. Certainly a hit to the belief in home ownership was a major shakeup to the American Dream. Though I don't think Brooks went into all that; he just mentioned the timing.

    • @buzoff4642
      @buzoff4642 3 місяці тому +1

      @@sandal_thong8631 2008 was preceded by late 1980s housing/bank scam bust, and then 2001 housing/bank scam bust. 2008 was notable only in scale, globalized.
      And every one of them, habituated US public to bailouts. Aka corporate welfare, now on global scale. And, now during non-bust times. The recent giveaways by US gov to stoke industry included foreign owned companies.
      Lose/lose for US public.

  • @gpofgpe
    @gpofgpe 5 місяців тому

    This is life changing information ,I have been looking for the why ? I wish everyone would take a moment to watch this insightful piece.❤

  • @mrjvc
    @mrjvc 5 місяців тому +11

    Beautiful and profound, thanks