Dominic Calvert-Lewin Red Card Controversy | Does VAR Need Changes? | Crystal Palace v Everton

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  • After Dominic Calvert-Lewin's contentious red card versus Crystal Palace in the FA Cup, Eni Aluki and Jobi McAnuff question whether VAR should slow down replays for video reviews.
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  • @anthonybateman7527
    @anthonybateman7527 5 місяців тому +130

    Neutral fan,,, there was nothing in that tackle , ref had good view and no-one claimed foul, var gets worse every week.

    • @ushmush4074
      @ushmush4074 5 місяців тому

      Literally, all the Palace players put their hands up.

    • @StormmyStormmy
      @StormmyStormmy 5 місяців тому

      The corruption is real, a sending off could make the VAR operators mates a lot of money, it will come out in years to come that it was all part of a betting scandal.

    • @samleonard7028
      @samleonard7028 5 місяців тому +2

      ​@ushmush4074 Only 2 of them did and it was because they seen their teammate making a meal of it rolling about

    • @alexshaw4182
      @alexshaw4182 5 місяців тому

      @@ushmush4074 Did they? Must be a red card then.. not really

    • @DontAttme
      @DontAttme 5 місяців тому

      Foul no card, he didn’t touch the ball at all just let the player up and continue the game from a free kick… have no clue why everyone is so black and white on both sides yet so wrong…

  • @fraser_mr2009
    @fraser_mr2009 5 місяців тому +107

    Never a foul. Decisions like that just puts you off watching football.

    • @yardgrid
      @yardgrid 5 місяців тому +1

      Bye

    • @MayorofMagaluf
      @MayorofMagaluf 5 місяців тому +1

      And the non-entity punditry. I want to see an ex-pro spitting feathers and getting angry about our game being ruined by officials and technical bullshit.

    • @Jonas-gl9ke
      @Jonas-gl9ke 5 місяців тому +3

      @@MayorofMagalufStuds up and 6 to 8 inches off the ground. His lunging foot misses the ball completely and only touches the ball after CL has caught part of the opposing player’s shin. Not even a foul for you?

    • @MayorofMagaluf
      @MayorofMagaluf 5 місяців тому +1

      @@Jonas-gl9ke it's football. It's fast. It's won in fractions of seconds and millimetres. That's the beauty of it. Slow motion replays present a fale reality that puts the game in the hands of the kind of people who would be traffic wardens.

    • @itsinthetreesitscoming7431
      @itsinthetreesitscoming7431 5 місяців тому +1

      @@Jonas-gl9ke you generally have to lift your studs "off the ground" in order to move.

  • @RichieRichFC
    @RichieRichFC 5 місяців тому +185

    Wasn’t even a foul never mind a red card *VAR* is getting crazy , referee should’ve just stuck to his original decision.

    • @holeefuk413
      @holeefuk413 5 місяців тому +6

      It doesn't have to be a foul. It was reckless play so a yellow defo

    • @silentwitness536
      @silentwitness536 5 місяців тому +1

      0:50 does the Palace player say to DCL, "Thats not a red"???

    • @docholiday-lm4vf
      @docholiday-lm4vf 5 місяців тому

      100 per cent a yellow

    • @008nigel
      @008nigel 5 місяців тому

      Wasn't reckless. DCL was in complete control of what he was doing
      @@holeefuk413

    • @johnobrien4318
      @johnobrien4318 5 місяців тому +2

      Palace player should get 3 matches for his reaction. Game is gone to pot

  • @gotterdan6047
    @gotterdan6047 5 місяців тому +139

    in a season when VAR has been truly awful, that is the worst decision i have seen this season.

    • @Darwizzy_9
      @Darwizzy_9 5 місяців тому +27

      No, no, no, no, no, no amigo. That was when Liverpool travelled to Tottenham and had a disallowed goal that was very clearly onside and then we were issued simply an apology. That stopped us being unbeaten this season. That was the worst this season.

    • @codiesmith9425
      @codiesmith9425 5 місяців тому +17

      It's bad for sure but Diaz disallowed goal vs Spurs was a lot worse

    • @gary4937
      @gary4937 5 місяців тому

      The refs have payed you back 10fold , dont worry about that ​@Darwizzy_9

    • @joeylittle3535
      @joeylittle3535 5 місяців тому

      Believe me every time a decision goes to var it goes against everton , its so corrupt they're not even hiding it anymore

    • @Stephen-zq7qh
      @Stephen-zq7qh 5 місяців тому +7

      @@Darwizzy_9that was a mistake in communication, between var and the ref. This was ref and var thinking that challenge was a red card.

  • @richardhenshaw5660
    @richardhenshaw5660 5 місяців тому +260

    Don't blame VAR, blame the weak referee for not standing up for his own decision and instinct which was completely correct.

    • @philipmullins2028
      @philipmullins2028 5 місяців тому +34

      Blame both. The refs in VAR are atrocious and the ref on field was a coward.
      Absolutely disgusting decision

    • @chunkyfxdls1878
      @chunkyfxdls1878 5 місяців тому +25

      Why not blame VAR…. They’re the ones that referred the referee back to the monitor and put the pressure on. It’s a given now that a referral to the screen is an overturn 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @xTMGx
      @xTMGx 5 місяців тому

      Agreed. VAR is ruining the game but refs need to start using common sense and not feel under pressure from the ref panel when it goes to a referral. It is getting silly now. @@chunkyfxdls1878

    • @christophercoey7804
      @christophercoey7804 5 місяців тому +14

      VAR are ONLY supposed to intervene when there is a CLEAR and OBVIOUS error by the referee.
      So VAR is 100% at fault.
      They had NO legitimate reason to be taking action. Then we have BOTH the VAR and the referee making a diabolically bad decision.
      Not even a foul.
      VAR is destroying the game and the referee has absolutely bottled it and just gone with their decision.

    • @aaronharmer2275
      @aaronharmer2275 5 місяців тому +3

      What do you mean don’t blame VAR, if there wasn’t any nothing would’ve happened!!

  • @demola_
    @demola_ 5 місяців тому +32

    NOT AN EVERTON FAN BUT THAT'S A CLEAN TACKLE

    • @Crovon1
      @Crovon1 5 місяців тому +5

      Studs up and they made contact with the players shin before the ball - clean is about as far from the description as it could be.

    • @pranavkumaran8358
      @pranavkumaran8358 5 місяців тому +1

      @@Crovon1 and about as far from a red as common sense could fathom

    • @Crovon1
      @Crovon1 5 місяців тому +2

      @@pranavkumaran8358 Studs up, dangerous play. Straight red if you read the rules.

    • @MisterFluffyBags
      @MisterFluffyBags 5 місяців тому +1

      The mob will shout that it's perfectly fine, but it was dangerous and reckless. It's at least a yellow card for that. I'd say it's not quite a red card because there was no "excessive force" or "brutality" as mentioned in the rules.

    • @jameslaird2940
      @jameslaird2940 5 місяців тому

      You clown it's a contact sport. And I'd tour going by the wver changing rules there was 0 excess force or malice in the challenge not to mention the contact was minimal so on them points it can't be deemed a straight red card just because studs are raised and Clyne should be called out for feigning ans exaggerating he never helped the situation. ​@@Crovon1

  • @mrbroeders
    @mrbroeders 5 місяців тому +44

    How they can't see the Andersen bear-hug on Beto ISN'T a penalty is beyond me. Jota brushed by Newcastle's keeper and falls down 2 steps later...pen. Player hekd back with two arms - nothing. Absolute joke.

    • @stephenalex4345
      @stephenalex4345 5 місяців тому +1

      Facts. Hojlund slightly pulled Rodri's shirt at Old Trafford and it was given for Man City. Shocking.

    • @blairmeikle5192
      @blairmeikle5192 5 місяців тому +1

      @@stephenalex4345 players shouldnt pull shirts though, thats pretty simple lol

    • @lenb9037
      @lenb9037 5 місяців тому

      Goalkeeper said it was a penalty for Liverpool. If a goalkeeper knocks one leg on to the other and causes Jota to trip it is a penalty. It does not matter whether Jota manages to take another step or does a somersault.
      Any bear hug or shirt pulling common among todays poorly educated defenders should be a penalty. It is common these days for clubs to coach players how to do this without making it obvious but with VAR this should be picked up more often.

    • @stephenalex4345
      @stephenalex4345 5 місяців тому

      @@blairmeikle5192 but do you not see the inconsistencies in the refereeing?

    • @ComradeOgilvy1984
      @ComradeOgilvy1984 5 місяців тому

      Jota starts falling 0 steps later. It is hard to see from the first viewing angle on the telly, but from the replays you can see Jota stumbles with his left foot immediately after being clipped. A striker choosing to cheat would drag his right foot into the keeper and go down much sooner. The fall only looks odd because we are all watching Jota's right foot, and clipping the left in that situation is unexpected.

  • @michaelmuldowney8
    @michaelmuldowney8 5 місяців тому +14

    The championship is a great league - full of action and exciting good football. NO VAR.

    • @MattMajcan
      @MattMajcan 5 місяців тому +1

      i think the same thing is happening in european football that happened to american football.. where the NFL is just overly corporate, too focused on money, while tons of people prefer watching college football because its more pure and just about the love of the sport. people are going to turn away from the "top6" and big 5 leagues more and more as they look for something authentic

    • @1993j
      @1993j 5 місяців тому

      No VAR leads to even more dives, look at the FA cup 😂 it's an absolute shambles of dives and bad calls, even more so than PL

  • @ajw9533
    @ajw9533 5 місяців тому +4

    It's actually a yellow for Clyne for feigning injury.

  • @ivarrtheboneless9104
    @ivarrtheboneless9104 5 місяців тому +7

    Yet VAR did not consider the Anderson rugby tackle, with both arms wrapped around the waist of the Everton forward to stop him reaching the ball, worthy of a look?

  • @bantamNeil12
    @bantamNeil12 5 місяців тому +40

    At the time watching it live I said out load "Great tackle"...There was no malice in the challenge and the contact was so so minor...The slow mo has done for DCL here and between VAR and the ref yet again an incident that didn't require intervention has been fecked up!!!...Everton should appeal this defo bcoz to get a 3 match for this is hideous!!!...🙄🤔

    • @yardgrid
      @yardgrid 5 місяців тому +1

      Well, you were wrong then amd you're wrong now. That's a clear red.
      It's a text book example.
      Over the ball, lost control if his body and studs showing.
      Red all day long.
      The ban should be extended for the appeal.
      Anyone e who understands the rules knows that's a red.
      Malice has nothing at all to do with it.
      An accidentally broken leg is still a broken leg.

    • @davefarrimond6095
      @davefarrimond6095 5 місяців тому +3

      @@yardgridcan tell you support Liverpool, barely touches him he didn’t break his leg at all 😂 literally no one agrees with you

    • @bantamNeil12
      @bantamNeil12 5 місяців тому

      @yardgrid and last time I checked football is all about opinions so you have yours and I'll have mine and we'll agree to disagree...😉⚽️👍🏻

    • @stretfordender11
      @stretfordender11 5 місяців тому +3

      @@yardgridgrow up soft lad.

    • @Doddciiy201
      @Doddciiy201 5 місяців тому

      Its 100% a Red card offence under the Rules of the game. So much for the I've played the game bs! 😡😡😡😡😡

  • @Haakonisak
    @Haakonisak 5 місяців тому +44

    One can wonder WHY VAR did not look on the obvious penalty to Beto. Different teams, different rules.

    • @stephenalex4345
      @stephenalex4345 5 місяців тому +3

      Facts. Hojlund slightly pulled Rodri's shirt at Old Trafford and it was given for Man City. Shocking.

    • @thesavageman0004
      @thesavageman0004 5 місяців тому

      Quite embarrassing if you think that's an 'obvious penalty', the bloke just threw himself to the ground.

    • @stephenalex4345
      @stephenalex4345 5 місяців тому +1

      @@thesavageman0004 it was a penalty.

    • @prodreamer8836
      @prodreamer8836 5 місяців тому +1

      @@thesavageman0004 ,you obviously missed the fact he was being held back.

    • @ComradeOgilvy1984
      @ComradeOgilvy1984 5 місяців тому

      @@stephenalex4345 As a Liverpool fan, I was rooting for United there and my honest opinion...barely a penalty. But that is absolutely a situation sitting on the borderline, and never in a million years is the no call a "clear and obvious error". The no call on the field should have been allowed to stand, even if reasonable people might disagree. The VAR official just decided he wanted Man City to have a goal, and threw common sense out the window and ignored the guidance for using VAR. Different teams, different rules.

  • @Evertonfootballclub-nk3kc
    @Evertonfootballclub-nk3kc 5 місяців тому +17

    Time for var to go now

    • @RegiyThornton
      @RegiyThornton 5 місяців тому +1

      I’d rather a ref get a foul wrong than someone watching it on a screen

    • @stretfordender11
      @stretfordender11 5 місяців тому

      Agreed. Would rather the referee got it wrong.

  • @mrbroeders
    @mrbroeders 5 місяців тому +20

    The ref was RIGHT THERE and saw nothing to penalise...

  • @stestetsonmusic
    @stestetsonmusic 5 місяців тому +18

    I was always under the impression that studs showing was always gonna be at least a booking and in danger of a red hasn’t that always been the rule.
    Ok he didn’t touch him but what if he did?
    I don’t think it’s a sending off but studs up (just saying) I’ve seen them given hundreds of times

    • @glynhayes5930
      @glynhayes5930 5 місяців тому

      Vinnie Jones has entered the chat lol. 10,15,20 years ago that’s a perfectly legal challenge. It wouldn’t have even made the highlight reel.

    • @marculinrise9914
      @marculinrise9914 5 місяців тому +4

      Agree with you studs up red card simple

    • @ComradeOgilvy1984
      @ComradeOgilvy1984 5 місяців тому

      @@marculinrise9914 Kavanaugh did not think so when he was in the VAR booth for the much worse studs high flying tackle that flattened Andy Robertson.

    • @marculinrise9914
      @marculinrise9914 5 місяців тому

      @@ComradeOgilvy1984 completely agree that was a worse tackle. It’s the incompetence of the officials that’s ruining the game

    • @MattMajcan
      @MattMajcan 5 місяців тому

      i disagree, its getting to the point where its impossiblr to make a tackle without fouling someone. its a physical sport and every player has studs on their boots sometimes theyre going to contact people thats just the way it goes. his foot was down, his leg wasnt extended, there isnt any way he could possibly have made a cleaner tacke in that situation. if we're suggesting he just has to not touch the opponenent and let him run away then what even is the sport anymore

  • @JohnJones-ct9pr
    @JohnJones-ct9pr 5 місяців тому +18

    The way things should work is that VAR is only used when the ref calls for it. To me this was 50 /50. The ref did not blow for it so no need to go to VAR. If the ref blew for it then fine. If the ref wanted a second opinion then and only then should VAR be used

    • @ElijahMan2633
      @ElijahMan2633 5 місяців тому +5

      The ref (Chris Kavanagh) is clueless. He made his mind up already despite being shown the replay many many many times.

    • @carlosdias6175
      @carlosdias6175 5 місяців тому +2

      VAR is there to correct mistakes. This could have been a yellow, barely a red. Dominic went in studs up and clipped the other player a bit... no malice, and he was unlucky to be sent off

  • @Adam-tb1rb
    @Adam-tb1rb 5 місяців тому +15

    You go over the ball and make contact the red is coming out. There is a way to make that tackle and keep your foot down and keep it safe. That could have been a catastrophic injury.

    • @tulyar57
      @tulyar57 5 місяців тому

      You people have obviously never kicked a ball in anger in your lives. Ask most people who have played at a reasonable level and they will call it for what it is, namely TACKLING.@@chrisjohnson3590

    • @raimesey
      @raimesey 5 місяців тому

      Although I totally agree that the game is going soft, I still see this as a bad challenge! He jumps in and goes over the ball with studs showing. I don’t think this challenge was as bad as others we’ve seen but it easily could have been if the Palace player was closer to the ball and was committed as well. I think it’s a fair red considering the rules of the modern game.

    • @bushmonster1702
      @bushmonster1702 5 місяців тому +1

      I'm giving you a red for that.

    • @chrisjohnson3590
      @chrisjohnson3590 5 місяців тому

      @@bushmonster1702 I wouldn’t bother with the red card, it will only be rescinded.

    • @Adam-tb1rb
      @Adam-tb1rb 5 місяців тому

      @raimesey Agreed! my daughters teammate broke her leg in half on a similar challenge. Momentum going in the opposite direction is a lot of force and the Palace player had his foot planted. Just a little more contact and it could have been really bad. I don't understand why people have such an issue with this red card. There is no reason to approach the challenge in that way. Keep your foot down and don't show your studs.

  • @Bobbymoor31
    @Bobbymoor31 5 місяців тому +5

    Why is no one mentioning Clynes actions in this

  • @briancoughlan4287
    @briancoughlan4287 5 місяців тому +8

    Seen kovacic make 2 bad tackles v arsenal earlier in the season 2 red cards and he stayed on the pitch

  • @FinalHooba
    @FinalHooba 5 місяців тому +4

    Watching it live it looked like a clean tackle. But as soon as I saw the slow mo replays, and the ref being asked to go to the monitor, I knew he was going to be sent off.

  • @danielharding8048
    @danielharding8048 5 місяців тому +6

    Just makes you wonder if VAR is armed with weapons, so if a referee disagrees, they get shot.
    Which is why they`re too afraid to stick to right decisions in scenarios like this.

  • @user-sz3fx7ou9r
    @user-sz3fx7ou9r 5 місяців тому +4

    absolutely disgusting from VAR, hughes did a bad challenge on one of our players and guess what... it didnt get acknowledged by VAR at all

  • @gary4937
    @gary4937 5 місяців тому +7

    Dyche needs to moan like Klopp when he doesnt get his own way

    • @RoyJoyce873
      @RoyJoyce873 5 місяців тому

      Knew one of you lot would mention Klopp. Lunatics 😂

    • @gary4937
      @gary4937 5 місяців тому +1

      @RoyJoyce873 true though, moans about decisions, forgets about all the ones that go his/teams way

  • @Crouchy232323
    @Crouchy232323 5 місяців тому +17

    If that was Harry Kane he would not have been sent off. But I don't know why Harry Kane would be refereeing an FA Cup game

  • @JaedensGamingBananaTree
    @JaedensGamingBananaTree 5 місяців тому +6

    How can the referee go to the screen, see the replay and still overturn his decision.

    • @trevorsaunders580
      @trevorsaunders580 5 місяців тому +1

      That's the puzzling thing that I don't get, what are they looking at.

    • @ComradeOgilvy1984
      @ComradeOgilvy1984 5 місяців тому

      @@trevorsaunders580 I believe they are looking at slow motion replays. Everything looks more intentional and dangerous in slow motion. Plus there is the psychological pressure of knowing his mate in the VAR booth looked at this several times -- do not want to embarrass anyone.
      Personally, I think it is okay to ask for onfield review here, but generally slow motion should only be used when there is some specific detail that needs to assessed (i.e. was there or was there not contact at all). But "recklessness" should be judged at full speed from the best angle.

  • @eirikln
    @eirikln 5 місяців тому +3

    Check out yesterday’s VAR official’s stats as a ref vs Everton btw. Speaks in volumes.

  • @TheSW6Club
    @TheSW6Club 5 місяців тому +23

    If he caught the player then yes.. but he got the ball and barely touched the player regardless of a supposed reckless challenge. The game has gone mad

    • @JoeBob79569
      @JoeBob79569 5 місяців тому +9

      He did still catch the player though, and he went in with his leg straight, and followed through, out of control.

    • @pryan9892
      @pryan9892 5 місяців тому

      He ended up with the ball, he didn’t win it…..and barely touching is still touching…he wasn’t in control so I can see why given. That said, as not excessive or endangering (not that it “could be” endangering as that’s a weak argument for me, as football isn’t what ifs), I think I’d caution on that one.

    • @michael2908
      @michael2908 5 місяців тому

      So he did catch the player then didn't he muppet

    • @barry3346
      @barry3346 5 місяців тому

      ​@pryan9892 he was in control tho ... that was one of the slowest and most deliberate attempts to win a ball you'll see... no intention to injure whatsoever , disgraceful decision,

    • @colmd7680
      @colmd7680 5 місяців тому +1

      He still touched the player before the ball so it's a foul. Especially when that touch is studs up

  • @briangault5090
    @briangault5090 5 місяців тому +4

    On a lighter side, Sean Dyche should demand a replay of the fixture for that bad VAR decision!

    • @caldinio
      @caldinio 5 місяців тому +1

      Could of played for another hour neather would of scored

  • @malcolmnelmes9447
    @malcolmnelmes9447 5 місяців тому +2

    The thing is in my opinion as the gentleman in the studio pointed out, no one on the field appealed, only one half heartedly

  • @Natei
    @Natei 5 місяців тому +4

    I don't get the point in an onfield ref with shit like this happening

  • @WhalesOfWallStreet
    @WhalesOfWallStreet 5 місяців тому +3

    Spurs fan - generally cannot believe this decision. When I was watching the game last night I thought he was blowing just to go check on the player. I did not even think it was a yellow. When he made that challenge it reminded me of Ledley King, the way to hook a ball from a player is an incredible skill of defensive play as I saw last night. When he went to the VAR screen I was livid and I am not even an Everton fan. It is a disgrace that ONE.... VAR couldnt make a desicion.... TWO the ref did not have the bottle to go against the VAR screen check. If a ref thinks that this is a foul let alone a red card, then these officials and VAR reps should be suspended and reviewed.

    • @paulw6183
      @paulw6183 5 місяців тому

      You can't go over the ball like that to hook the ball mate, it's not a red but those tackles are dangerous

  • @chrismilne1996
    @chrismilne1996 5 місяців тому +2

    And Udogie’s two-footed lunge, running full pace from 20 yards, on Sterling against Chelsea was given a yellow. VAR then decided that was sufficient.

  • @jonhunter8737
    @jonhunter8737 5 місяців тому +21

    Bare in mind people, this is Everton. This premier league want Everton gone. Ten point penalty for a few million on interest payments, in a time where interest rates have gone through the roof?? Really?? And a sporting penalty for financial errors??? And also, why are Everton the only team not given a penalty this season? Funny that. It's as though the conspiracy theories are true!

    • @RoyJoyce873
      @RoyJoyce873 5 місяців тому

      Hahahaha bore off

    • @norbertgoulash5482
      @norbertgoulash5482 5 місяців тому

      ​@RoyJoyce873 ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha u sukoff😊😅

  • @DjangokillHMG
    @DjangokillHMG 5 місяців тому +36

    Good discussion. Good questions from the presenter and two guests who know what they're talking about. Doesn't happen often enough.

    • @stevestibbons1789
      @stevestibbons1789 5 місяців тому

      😂😂😂😂😂

    • @MrCrazyrob666
      @MrCrazyrob666 5 місяців тому +2

      Hear hear. That panel was certainly picked for football expertise reasons and they did a bang up job.

    • @patrickmalone1902
      @patrickmalone1902 5 місяців тому

      Wimmin 😄😄

    • @chesterwunpen2196
      @chesterwunpen2196 5 місяців тому +1

      Who are they?

    • @CorfeCastle.
      @CorfeCastle. 5 місяців тому +1

      Ha ha. Are you on crack ? Laura Woods is clueless. Great pundits

  • @apm9475
    @apm9475 5 місяців тому +2

    The Palace player who acted like he was seriously injured, is the main problem ! Far too many cheats in the game now.

  • @gwil6100
    @gwil6100 5 місяців тому +3

    He went over the top, I don’t agree but that’s a red all day in this day and age unfortunately

    • @norbertgoulash5482
      @norbertgoulash5482 5 місяців тому +1

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 don't agree but do agree 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @garethdenyer21
    @garethdenyer21 5 місяців тому +12

    The tackle was perfectly timed on this occasion.... but the tiniest of error would have broken the player's leg. I'm sure we've all seen examples very fast, motorway manoeuvres which have NOT resulted in a serious accident. In those situations, the perpetrator might brag about their F1 driving prowess but is that something we want to sanction or encourage? When an accident DOESN'T happen it doesn't necessarily lessen the recklessness of the action.

    • @evan_smith016
      @evan_smith016 5 місяців тому

      Football all about risks. Like you said tiniest of margins can result in injury but in that occasion there was no intent or aggression so should have not been a foul even less so a red.

    • @ifeoluwawinjobi5933
      @ifeoluwawinjobi5933 5 місяців тому +1

      Intent is not the only justification of a red card. While it might seem unfair, I can see why the card was given.

    • @seangrogan3622
      @seangrogan3622 5 місяців тому +1

      @@ifeoluwawinjobi5933 I agree, the studs were up, as they said themselves the player was endangered and it could have turned out really nasty

    • @shadow_realm47
      @shadow_realm47 5 місяців тому +1

      You guys are simply being contrarian cus it's not happening to your tram. If it were Liverpool Tottenham Arsenal or anyone else everyone would have been crying. Absolute bot behaviour. A disgrace:)

  • @mohammedabdullatif6001
    @mohammedabdullatif6001 5 місяців тому +3

    Caemiro didn't get this kind of support after his red card

    • @shadow_realm47
      @shadow_realm47 5 місяців тому +1

      mancs get 5 dirty calls a game their way unless its against city.

  • @theastonvillaseal585
    @theastonvillaseal585 5 місяців тому +2

    His boot is too high IMO, a lot of people are calling it a disgrace but if that goes directly into the shin then it's a different story and perhaps a broken leg too.

  • @Hereforthefooty
    @Hereforthefooty 5 місяців тому +6

    Studs up and contact on the shin is going to get you a red. Thankfully he didn't catch him full-on the shin.

  • @Atk190
    @Atk190 5 місяців тому +2

    No chance Is that a red and I’m a Liverpool fan

  • @petercooperwhite3880
    @petercooperwhite3880 5 місяців тому +7

    The Crystal Palace player who was involved in the incident caused this controversy by diving when there was minimal contact he should be the one they should look at more closely

    • @chrisjohnson3590
      @chrisjohnson3590 5 місяців тому

      An opponent comes flying in, studs first, the Palace player thought he was in for a clattering and instinct took over. Clear red

    • @colinneile9955
      @colinneile9955 5 місяців тому

      Zero intent if that's a red card then let's make football a non contact sport and use a 200 yard wide pitch so the players can't stand near each other

    • @chrisjohnson3590
      @chrisjohnson3590 5 місяців тому

      @@colinneile9955 doesn’t matter about intent, went in with studs first. That’s why it was a red.

    • @colinneile9955
      @colinneile9955 5 місяців тому +1

      Dominic Calvert lewin the hard man of football never been sent off before and should not have been sent off last night if you watch it he is slowing down and makes very minimal contact zero intent off hurting player and if there was would have been sent off there and then

  • @foundation6867
    @foundation6867 5 місяців тому +5

    That is never a red card the contact looked minimal the studs were up but it’s very harsh this referee was a joke litreally it’s a foul its nothing major this is ridiculous from the referee

  • @piet0004
    @piet0004 5 місяців тому +5

    the meltdown surrounding VAR is so funny

    • @hillbillykip1873
      @hillbillykip1873 5 місяців тому +4

      I love it. I really do. Because from the get go, I’ve hated VAR, it keeps embarrassing itself far worse than I thought it would. And I personally love it.

    • @piet0004
      @piet0004 5 місяців тому

      @@hillbillykip1873 trying to figure out the correct interpretation of the rules in real time with millions at stake as everyone watches, golden

    • @hillbillykip1873
      @hillbillykip1873 5 місяців тому

      @@piet0004 I don’t understand how it can be this bad. It’s brilliant. Hmm let’s bring VAR in to eradicate all the errors. Errrrm ok then. 😂😂😂😂 keep them coming I say. Football, pffft.

    • @piet0004
      @piet0004 5 місяців тому

      @@hillbillykip1873 its great 🤣🤣nothing like seeing grown men cry

  • @roryduggan2781
    @roryduggan2781 5 місяців тому +2

    Studs showing 6 inches off the deck. That’s a red every day. Football hasn’t gone soft, it’s stamping out reckless challenges.

  • @razwanakhan25
    @razwanakhan25 5 місяців тому +2

    I actually think it is a red card because his studs are showing and it might not be intentional but it’s still dangerous play

    • @barry3346
      @barry3346 5 місяців тому +1

      It's not dangerous play , he's fully in control, not going in at speed, no intention to injure, and wins the ball cleanly ... disgraceful decision

    • @zephune9506
      @zephune9506 5 місяців тому

      @@barry3346studs showing regardless is dangerous

  • @hansfyhrqvist7734
    @hansfyhrqvist7734 5 місяців тому +2

    How on earth the referees don't understand that we all understand?!
    Everything seems much worse in slow motion and in still pictures?
    Why have the good English referees become so bad with the use of VAR?
    They are many times very bad at the VAR studio. And when the referee on the pitch is called to the screen they usually change their initial view, meaning a non-foul becomes a foul by looking those slow motions an still pictures!
    After reviewing the incident, if it's not an absolutely clear and blatant foul, they should be brave enough to stand by their initial reaction.
    The referee on the pitch is the main referee, or should be!

  • @user-dh6yl7lo2s
    @user-dh6yl7lo2s 5 місяців тому +1

    Watched Sheffield v Luton as a neutral, 27 Dec. Luton's 78th min equaliser (own goal) was a joke - Luton forward almost tearing the Sheffield defender's top off. Why not seen by VAR? Ridiculous.

  • @readventurekids
    @readventurekids 5 місяців тому +1

    Even the Palace players looked embarrassed. The game's gone. It's beyond a joke.

  • @adammatthews699
    @adammatthews699 5 місяців тому +6

    I'm a liverpool fan and it's ridiculous how that can be a red card but the challenge last season from Tyrone mings on gakpo with stud marks left on his chest was a yellow 😂 unbelievable

    • @ComradeOgilvy1984
      @ComradeOgilvy1984 5 місяців тому

      Wasn't Kavanaugh in the booth when Tierney gave Harry Kane a yellow for a much more dangerous flying stud high tackle on Andy Robertson? If the potential harm of a reckless tackle is a factor, then Tierney and Kavanaugh should already have been sent down to the Championship for remedial work.

  • @gary4937
    @gary4937 5 місяців тому +14

    Been far worse this season gone unpunished , it's a joke

  • @danielshuttleworth2983
    @danielshuttleworth2983 5 місяців тому +2

    I think VAR has been an absolute shambles this season, but that was potentially a centimeter away from being a leg-breaker, and I don't think that the decision is wrong

    • @jameslaird2940
      @jameslaird2940 5 місяців тому

      Never would of there was so little force and speed in his controlled lunge it would of not caused any damage. People who know the game know this. Clearly you don't....

  • @Skibbitypappappa
    @Skibbitypappappa 5 місяців тому +8

    Mind blowing that he gets sent off for this but Romero on Wilson was deemed fine 😂

  • @simontuffen8243
    @simontuffen8243 5 місяців тому +7

    It doesn't matter if he was "trying to wrap his foot around the ball", he went right over the top of the ball and caught the other player in the shin before his leg came down onto the ball. An inch to the right and he could easily have snapped his opponent's leg. It's a classic red card offence.

    • @The-Licensee-1
      @The-Licensee-1 5 місяців тому +3

      1st sensible comment I’ve seen so far he’s went in with his studs a foot of the ground while running we wouldn’t be having the debate if the opposition player was a few inches away it’s a leg breaker

    • @CoasterManiac2000
      @CoasterManiac2000 5 місяців тому +1

      I disagree, its not excessive force and there is no reason for it to bed a red card

    • @zephune9506
      @zephune9506 5 місяців тому

      First time seen it, red to me cant tackle like that

    • @simontuffen8243
      @simontuffen8243 5 місяців тому

      In my view, he endangered the safety of his opponent, which is a sending off offence. How can the opponent safely challenge for the ball in this case when CL has extended his leg over the ball towards the opponent and with his studs against the opponent's shin? @@CoasterManiac2000

    • @shadow_realm47
      @shadow_realm47 5 місяців тому +1

      He didn't take the player out, simple. If you're gonna give a red on not taking a guy out on a simple slide tackle the game is lost. No one can defend anymore.
      Eden Hazard would have drawn a 100 fouls per game by your "definition". Bet you were not calling to protect him back then.

  • @Koofumhead
    @Koofumhead 5 місяців тому

    IDK, studs were showing, and unavoidable contact was made that could have injured the opponent. Therefore, it can be construed as a reckless/dangerous challenge. Btw, the Palace player was rolling around afterwards.

  • @georgestuart8656
    @georgestuart8656 5 місяців тому +11

    Evertonian for 64 years. I saw that on another channel and said hands up, that's a red.
    Different angles, he klipped his shin pad slightly on the side with his heel studs. Brilliant tackle!
    Dangerous ? Not when you're good enough to play at this level.

  • @boomslangCA
    @boomslangCA 5 місяців тому

    I don't really know what the term 'excessive' that they throw around relative to the action actually means. It's easy to say it but I have no idea what they mean by it. How would it be excessive, what quality would it need to be so? I'm not really sure what they are talking about.

  • @ushmush4074
    @ushmush4074 5 місяців тому +1

    I don't think it was that bad a decision. Granted, VAR should just piss off, but if he connects there it's a leg breaker!

    • @howardkitchen2302
      @howardkitchen2302 5 місяців тому

      You can't add 'ifs' into the scenario. IF one of the teams scored a goal, they'd already be into the forth round. The sports become a joke as it is.

    • @ushmush4074
      @ushmush4074 5 місяців тому

      @howardkitchen2302 I think you can, otherwise nothing other than actual broken legs would be a red card.

  • @surj1023
    @surj1023 5 місяців тому +7

    These presenters are a breath of fresh air. I can't watch ITV in Australia so haven't seen them much before.

    • @markadams6373
      @markadams6373 5 місяців тому

      No they are not. Take them with you back to whatever toilet country you came from

  • @JoeBob79569
    @JoeBob79569 5 місяців тому +2

    I don't follow either of these teams, so I'm not biased, but in general it is a tough one to get right.
    I mean, if you go in with studs, but you're in control, then it should be no problem unless you hurt a player.
    But if you slide in with your knee bent and take a player out with your shin it's just as dangerous (eg: like the DVB injury last year) where you have far less control; but somehow this is considered less dangerous because "no studs are showing".
    Refs seem to have an obsession with studs showing, thinking it's the most dangerous thing ever, when really it isn't.
    But in this case DCL did go in with his leg locked straight, and his leg was still straight after he clipped him, so I probably would call this a reckless challenge because he could have pulled out of it if he chose to. But he didn't.
    For me, if a player slides in with studs showing, but bends his knee mid-slide to avoid hitting hard with his studs then it should be fine, but if they go in with their leg straight then it should be a red if they hit the player, or the player has to get out of the way to avoid injury.
    I think the ref got it right on this occasion because DCL just didn't have any control, and he did actually hit the player with a straight leg, and followed through with the straight leg. If he'd been an inch to the left it could have been a serious injury.

  • @MursGaming2
    @MursGaming2 5 місяців тому

    I think Will Hughes did say 'Harsh'...i think so too

  • @007WINST
    @007WINST 5 місяців тому +6

    Unpopular view. By the way Calvert-Lewin (CL) went into that tackle, IF he had made full contact it probably would have been seen as at least a yellow, borderline red. The issue here is not just CL's speed, it's the combined speed of him and the opponent. I think the rule is trying to deal with the potential outcome of these types of tackles and not what actually occurs. Even considering all that it's a harsh red, but players know if their foot is high with studs showing, you open yourself to the risk of a red card.

    • @suleimanali1635
      @suleimanali1635 5 місяців тому +1

      Spot on.

    • @pranavkumaran8358
      @pranavkumaran8358 5 місяців тому +1

      makes sense but you have to ref based on what has happened not hypothetic like what could have happened

    • @barry3346
      @barry3346 5 місяців тому +1

      There was no speed tho... he was fully in control , and no intent to injure or hurt his opponent .... disgraceful decision

    • @007WINST
      @007WINST 5 місяців тому

      @@barry3346 you need to re-read what I wrote

    • @007WINST
      @007WINST 5 місяців тому

      @pranavkumaran8358 no, because the idea is to try and prevent career threatening tackles or even using that type of action to scare other players. If you only ref based on outcome players would do exactly what happened in this match; Look as if you're going to tackle high with studs, then pull out, so like a fake bad tackle which will gain you an advantage. If you only ref on the outcome, it's too late in the process and the perpetrators will still do 'fake bad tackles'

  • @rayakins
    @rayakins 5 місяців тому +1

    If you compare this to Kai Havertz going studs through Sean Longstaffs knee which only got a yellow we are talking about 2 different sports. The inconsistency is worse than ever.

  • @gavingould9543
    @gavingould9543 5 місяців тому

    Key wording in rule is it serious conduct and excessive force , I highly doubt it is glancing blow , minimum impact on leg at worse should been yellow .

  • @jeanpaul9349
    @jeanpaul9349 5 місяців тому +1

    At first i thought it was a foul looking at the replay,but in real time he was coming from the side in a controlled gathering motion as opposed to a stamp
    Not a foul for me

  • @charliebruce592
    @charliebruce592 5 місяців тому +1

    When you see VAR interference like this could it be someone trying to influence the game.

  • @liamminerYT
    @liamminerYT 5 місяців тому

    The action is reckless... if that foot connects with the shin he can break the guys leg. But I don't think the force was excessive at all - he wasn't moving that fast. I think a yellow would have been appropriate.

  • @jpnicholls888
    @jpnicholls888 5 місяців тому +1

    Definitely not a foul neither a red card. These officials are a joke.

  • @furrybear9416
    @furrybear9416 5 місяців тому +1

    Question to all fans? If a player jumps out of the way from a leg breaking tackle and avoids contact what's the difference in the tackle as far as wreckless goes?❔

    • @furrybear9416
      @furrybear9416 5 місяців тому

      Question 2, if someone tries to punch someone in the face but the other person ducks it, is the punch a red card?❔

    • @donesko81
      @donesko81 5 місяців тому

      ​@furrybear9416 Yes it's still a red card. They've tried to punch someone.

  • @Jimbo_9
    @Jimbo_9 5 місяців тому +1

    Studs showing over the ball, correct decision.

  • @MTKashSmash
    @MTKashSmash 5 місяців тому

    few cm to the right and if the guys leg was planted it's a leg breaker, can't be sliding in studs up like that tbh.

  • @user-qu3yf3he2c
    @user-qu3yf3he2c 5 місяців тому

    How is it any different to the Ben Mee sending off a couple of weeks ago? All the pundits were agreed that was a fair red, this is no different so why are they not agreed that this one is a red?

  • @markjarvis3990
    @markjarvis3990 5 місяців тому +1

    I’m not a palace or Everton FAN BUT HOW IS THAT NOT A RED CARD AND DONT BLAME THE REF OR VAR LET THE REF BE THE REF AND LET THE VAR BE THE VAR it’s a high foot 8inches above the floor comen sense please ITV

  • @paulmachin1198
    @paulmachin1198 5 місяців тому +9

    I long for the days of the ref making decisions on the pitch and the pundits being proper experienced pros, instead of box ticking.

    • @jedross2136
      @jedross2136 5 місяців тому

      Yes, yes, grandad, no wimmin no blacks. Come on, back through to the lounge and I’ll put your Joey Barton on the telly for you, you like him, don’t you grandad!

    • @Slurped836
      @Slurped836 5 місяців тому +4

      @@jedross2136 The vast majority of football fans agree with Barton, the sooner all the wimmin are removed from commentating on the men’s game the better, even Amazon have stated that their option to listen to matches with no commentary and just have the stadium audio increases when wimmin are on the team.

    • @patrickmalone1902
      @patrickmalone1902 5 місяців тому

      @@jedross2136 idiot

    • @paulw6183
      @paulw6183 5 місяців тому

      ​@jedross2136
      Eni oluko is to punditry what Boris Johnson is to hairstyles, she's fucking useless and gets the job because she's black and female, most female pundits are awful, so are a lot of male ones but box ticking is ruining the enjoyment of the game

  • @ElijahMan2633
    @ElijahMan2633 5 місяців тому +6

    Christopher Kavanagh is a fanny. Remove him from the game. Take away his whistle. Absolutely clueless at his job.
    Week in, week out. This cvnt doesn’t know what he’s doing.

    • @Nutsarooba
      @Nutsarooba 5 місяців тому +2

      Totally agree with you, he can't handle it! Constantly looks like he's going to cry!

  • @starshipwonaprize-dronevideos
    @starshipwonaprize-dronevideos 5 місяців тому

    What did Will Hughes say to DCL?

  • @paulyeomans4433
    @paulyeomans4433 5 місяців тому +1

    His studs are up doesn't matter if there is no contact or not it's dangerous I totally agree with the red and he shouldn't be playing against villa

  • @DavidMeikle-ei7fr
    @DavidMeikle-ei7fr 5 місяців тому +1

    If the system was so good before, why was VAR introduced ? Be careful what you wish for

  • @sambog2635
    @sambog2635 5 місяців тому

    1st time seeing the tackle - looks a good tackle to me

  • @dez3540
    @dez3540 5 місяців тому +1

    People clearly didn't even see Will Hughes (Palace) look at Dom and his expression being like,
    "...nah, not even for me mate"
    If no players protest, or anyone else inside the stadium for that matter, is it _really_ necessary to do a VAR check for a tackle? Kinda indicates that there was no issue with the challenge in the first place.
    That’s the sort of decision and use of VAR that calls the whole system into question... Yes, studs are high, but he brushes with zero force. He’s practically come to a stop before making contact. If there was even a _slight_ bit of force in it, then absolutely a red card due to the height, but there just _wasn’t_ any force was there.
    Football's a contact sport remember.

  • @tommaguzzi1723
    @tommaguzzi1723 5 місяців тому +1

    Why is no one talking about the Palace player rolling about for a no/minimal contact tackle?

  • @craigpritchard-jg2my
    @craigpritchard-jg2my 5 місяців тому +2

    It wasn't even a foul let alone a card and why don't referee's back themselves? VAR is ridiculous and has no place in the beautiful game. Goalline tech is enough.

  • @MWS1960
    @MWS1960 5 місяців тому +4

    From Liverpool 40 years ago, but with BS calls like this happening in the PL I’m sticking to the NFL and NBA. At least I can watch a game without the five minute reviews and stupid decisions. I also think the ref needs to explain these type of serious tackles to the manager. VAR in the NFL and NBA provides the opportunity to have a word with the ref. English refs are like Teflon…can’t be touched.

    • @bartman01021988
      @bartman01021988 5 місяців тому +1

      No you just have 3 minute breaks after every 20 seconds of play in the nfl 🤦‍♂️

    • @raimesey
      @raimesey 5 місяців тому

      I’ve touched Teflon on a many occasions over the years.

    • @MattMajcan
      @MattMajcan 5 місяців тому

      those leagues have the same problem. as an american the entire reason i got into football in my 20s is because it was the beautiful game, the worlds game.. the game flowed, the action never stopped, there were no commercials, no breaks for the players, just a nonstop display of entertainment. There was nothing like that in the USA. But that no longer exists in any sport i'm aware of. i find myself caring about sports less than i ever have in my life. theres no reason to watch football over the american sports i hate anymore so i just dont watch anything

    • @shadow_realm47
      @shadow_realm47 5 місяців тому

      NBA is just as bad.

  • @donesko81
    @donesko81 5 місяців тому +1

    Studs up, straight leg, shin height, always has been a booking.

  • @eagles1012
    @eagles1012 5 місяців тому +1

    i cannot believe this has been revoked, his foot is high, i don’t care if he meant to or not, he’s recklessly slid into that challenge and made contact, keep your foot on the floor so you don’t break a leg what a joke

  • @drex5160
    @drex5160 5 місяців тому +1

    Dont blame the Car. Blame the driver.

  • @andyarmstrong1175
    @andyarmstrong1175 5 місяців тому +1

    Its a "clear and obvious error"....by VAR!

  • @marlboroughhighways9648
    @marlboroughhighways9648 5 місяців тому

    I personally can understand it his leg was locked straight, studs were all on show which is in its self a yellow . if he had not missed his leg and hit it his leg would of been broken .

  • @AilinOGriobhtha
    @AilinOGriobhtha 5 місяців тому

    The only thing I can think is because he went in studs up with his foot above the ball, It shouldn't have been a red, but it is a dangerous tackle...

  • @sgtdarksuicide1326
    @sgtdarksuicide1326 5 місяців тому

    Tackling with studs up is considered dangerous. A studs up tackle is made when a player lunges into a tackle with a leg or both legs outstretched exposing the soles of their boots. Referees are encouraged to at the very least caution (yellow card) players who commit such challenges.

  • @ezradja
    @ezradja 5 місяців тому +1

    LIVERPPOL FAN HERE. THAT WAS NEVER A RED. THA WAS NOT EVEN A FOUL.

  • @MattMajcan
    @MattMajcan 5 місяців тому

    the fact that the entire palace crowd didnt react at all to the challenge says it all. not a single person in the stadium thought it was a foul

  • @flynese
    @flynese 5 місяців тому

    It looked bad on slowmo 😅 its going to be a RED fosho if ref were sent to watch the replay

  • @charliejames4119
    @charliejames4119 5 місяців тому

    If there wasn’t contact then why was the palace player rolling around like there was ?

  • @mccartney2
    @mccartney2 5 місяців тому +1

    Betto being wrapped up totally with two arms was an absolute penalty

  • @thesunstate5803
    @thesunstate5803 5 місяців тому

    lulz! U'd almost think someone had it in for Everton!

  • @bojack3827
    @bojack3827 5 місяців тому +1

    THATS A RED CARD. Studs up, dangerous place. Red card plain and simply. Doesn't matter that he doesn't make full contact with the player - its dangerous play.

  • @melvinkachere8782
    @melvinkachere8782 5 місяців тому +5

    How is THIS a red but Havertz against Newcastle not then? And I'm an Arsenal fan, so wtf

  • @SoraxSpace
    @SoraxSpace 5 місяців тому +1

    I seem to be in a small minority but I can absolutely see why it's given, foot raised and studs up, arguably endangering. And I am usually on the side that the game's gone too soft!

  • @liamgoffe3671
    @liamgoffe3671 5 місяців тому

    I'm well against VAR.
    but that is a dangerous challenge at the end of the day, cant just give the red cards once injury's occur..
    legs fully extended and boots up off the ground. that could have been a leg breaker!
    Whilst VAR is in this is always going to be given as a red, i can understand this not being given on the pitch as in normal time it looks a great challenge.