How did 24 People Die in 1845 on the Meek's Cutoff Lost Wagon Train in the Oregon High Desert
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- In 1845, a wagon train left Vale, Oregon, hoping to find a shortcut to The Dalles. The group got hopelessly lost, and 24 members of the party perished. I went into the desert to look for one of the graves, and found a lonely, desolate and peaceful place. I also got some insight into desert survival from the pioneer era.
This was so much more informative & entertaining than watching the totally BORING 142min long movie. Thank you. Refreshing & informative.
Thanks for watching it! History fascinates me, and I love walking in the footprints of the pioneers.
boring but interesting I think ! I watched it several times
Not sure what the name was, but the black rock desert was heralded as a shortcut, which if you spend anytime there, it's a desolate and waterless as it gets. The real danger is being out on the playas is when it rains. It would seem like a godsend, but the water runs off the mountains and can result in severals inches of water. The Playa material then essentially turns to cement. These are beautiful areas, but must be treated with respect. Thanks for the history and great videos.
That was a very cool history and would be a nice trip. I have never been in a desert, tho we have sandy beachs lol. Anyhow great video and im glad you shared it with us
I have driven through that country many times and it is dry. Great video! I never really thought about what the covered wagons experienced there. The road from Burns to Bend is long even at 60 miles an hour. Always bring water and gallons more than you might drink in a day in case your ride over heats.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I'm so glad I found this, my gr gr gr grandparents were Solomon and Ibba Tetherow. I look forward (I think) to getting a first hand taste (as much as I can) of what they went through.
Hiking in that area is a very interesting way to get a pioneer's perspective. It's usually hot, dusty and monotonous.
I grew up going to Vale Or a couple times a year. My grandparents lived there. My family still owns several properties there. They even had a ghost hunter show film at one of the properties. Vale is beautiful country and a great 4th of July rodeo
If you or others are interested, check out the definitive book on the Meek Train ("Terrible Trail, the Meek Cutoff 1845" by my late friend Keith Clark and Lowell Tiller). They cover this site well, and they photograph the original juniper stump (which is still there but now unreadable) and even in the early 1960s it was unclear to Clark and Tiller if it was "Sacred to memory of Jessie or Jennie" that was scratched into the juniper.
+Michael McKenzie I got that book from interlibrary loan - great read!
+Survival Common Sense In fact, when I first visited this site (probably around 1992) I could just make out one or two of the letters carved into that juniper stump. But in the 20-odd years since, even that is gone, and so the stump remains but all the carving of "Jessie" or "Jennie" is gone. You know, if you got the right permission (BLM) you could almost certainly run ground penetrating radar over that (without turning any dirt) to check for disturbances in the soil. Also, believe it or not....hold on to your hat, OCTA uses cadaver dogs to mark burials, and while neither method would tell you anything about the source of a body they would tend to give evidence that there had been a burial.....
it was around a 300 miles trip astonishing how things change in this world im about to watch the Movie It has some great reviews.
It is amazing. When I hiked part of that route, I couldn't imagine the hardships those people had to endure.
A major component in the deaths of many of these 24 people were from the people using what they thought was saleratus (natural baking powder) to raise their bread, but were actually using alkali from the dry lakebeds, which is potassium hydroxide. Lye.
I found another grave on the Meek cutoff. Catherine Butts, died on the trail in 1845. Grave is near Tygh Valley. I made a video of my search.
Nice!
Great video.
Good video. very interesting area.
Thanks!
Tough terrain - what was the Nevada shortcut named?
That is a lonseome stretch of road, and i always carry water in my vehicle.
That area is no joke, same way with the gerlach/black rock desert of northern Nevada another so called short cut
I work a cadaver dog capable of working old graves. Can anyone tell me the GPS location of this grave? Id like to work the dog on it to see if there is interest. Its my understanding its by Reynolds pond. Thanks.
I don't have the GPS coordinates. You might try the Deschutes County Historical Society.
Please use your dog to find Fauna Frey
There is also baby grave in-between bend and redmond just off hwy 97
Do you have the GPS coordinates for it by any chance?
@@survivalcommonsense I only looked at photos the baby grave is over by the old Brandys restaurant in-between redmond and bend there is a pile of juniper with meeks and 1845 carved in it right out there also
It is across the canal at the north side of the Badlands Wilderness. park at Reynolds Pond trail head and follow the northernmost canal, heading south.
I watched the movie Meeks cutoff years ago but I decided to watch it again the ending made me wonder how much of its true! So I’m assuming the 24 people all died 🤔 I’m wondering the man Stephan meek and the Indian was any of that true ugh 😑
Hard to say. Hollywood takes a lot of liberties with true stories.
My property is just west of it.
I have a vacation rental cottage (Airbnb) - The Badlands Bunkhouse .
Beautiful area!
I found the GPS coordinate, will go out with my teammate and check it out with the k9s. Thanks.
Please let me know what you come up with!
will do.
OMG OMG OMG Y U FIND MY COMPASS :O :O
Good video. very interesting area.