I made a mount that raised my seeder 6+ feet above ground level. I mounted it to the front of my side-by-side, put my sprayer on the tailgate and drug my cultipacker behind. Got everything done in one pass.
I did virtually the same thing only using Down Burst Seeder on front receiver hitch that can be calibrated similar to a grain drill having a 5 ft spreading width, which is also the width my John Deere Gator.
Planted into Buckwheat nearly chest high this year in one pass using Down Burst Seeder mounted on front receiver hitch of John Deere Gator & also spraying Glyphasphate/cultipacking in the same pass. Seeder can be calibrated literally in a few short minutes with a metering system much like that of a grain drill that uses air for a 5 ft spread out of a drop tube positioned just under 11 inches off the ground.
I had to drive through my buckwheat with my atv just to make walking lanes and even after that it was a slog. But after I was done I hooked the cultipacker and put the sprayer on. Ran both at same time.
I'm glad you confirmed this for me. My buckwheat height has been dependent on the weather, some years 5ft, other years 2ft. Rolling it before on the year it was 5ft still worked great. I'll be moving up my buckwheat planting date next year. Glufosinate will nuke your pigweed and allow for planting the same day if you're tight on time.
Hi Rob! The Glyphosate won't touch the pigweed...or water hemp, or smart weed, or clover...so 2-4D is critical for some of those. We have unfortunately experienced this many times over...
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751I agree 100%, Glufosinate aka Liberty, will though. I learned how resistant Waterhemp is to gly last year, never again. 2,4d +gly 7-10 days before planting or Liberty the same weekend. Big relief to find out there are options against Pigweed, waterhemp, marestail, and other resistant weeds!
Hey Jeff you mentioned that you will go with corn in that spot next year as a rotation. I know you will no till in the corn but how in the following year will you get rid of the debris your left to plant your next year plot without working it into the ground. Thanks for all the great info!!!
I planted Buckwheat in early July in N. Carolina, and then drought hit. It’s just now about 6”. I recently fertilized to hopefully boost but am afraid it won’t be tall enough by the end of the month to crimp over when I plant my brassica.
Hi Chris the brassica will germinate very well with just a moderate amount of rain, when uncovered. So don't worry about it too much ..just make sure to take care of any weeds and broadcast the seed before a rain.
I love the buckwheat videos. My buckwheat didnt do very good this yr lack of rain and alot of turkeys. I thought you had to wait 20-30 days to plant after spraying 24-d
That's a bummer about the turkeys! Plants shouldn't germinate before 14-21 days after spraying. We push that 14 day window quite a bit...but we don't over spray either.
Great information about buckwheat. Step in the right direction, but wish you would start figuring out the best way to plant food plots without spraying herbicides and pesticides for people who prioritize their health and soils. I know it’s not as efficient, but worth the pay off for sure.
I'm in northern MN on my first plot and I think I'll still have to plant into the standing buckwheat, it's not super tall yet. Don't know if I can afford to wait another week to plant it if I put 24d on.
Closing in on MO season I have been making some mock scrapes with a vine hanging and hanging cameras and was curious how often I’d at all would you “freshen it up” pour water to add moisture etc?
Question....I have a low lying area that is covered in nutgrass. If I get ahead of it this spring with a pre-emergeant....will buckwheat take care of the rest as the year goes on? I'm just looking for a way to get rid of the nutgrass and possibly get something else growing in its place for fall. It's an open area about 2 acres in size.
Switchgrass in the background looking good! Any idea why it looks like a lot of it is falling over. Only ask because mine is doing the same thing not sure on the fix?
Hey for 24D application how long do you have to wait to plant? I’ve heard different amounts of time in different videos for you, and I’m struggling to figure out how long to wait.
Hi Ben...14 days is pretty safe, because that means won't be germinating for around 21 days which is great! I push it down to 9/10 days, with good results because that is 16-17 days from spraying. I've never said 30 days...but definitely 14-21 days to be safe. Meaning germination at 14-21 days. I hope that is much clearer mud 😁
Hello! Good question. The nitrogen goes away after a few weeks in hot, dry weather...but that's it. We are using liquid fertilizer from DeerGro this year tho, which is immediately absorbed into the plant. We will spray that about 2 weeks after germination...
Have put over 7000#s thru a 2750...in 1 season. We actually have to run and gun our food plots too much and have too much seed to put out over too many acres, for a tank spreader 😉 Been there, done that...I think it's still in the bottom of the valley where I chucked it 🤣
Thanks Jeff. This is really good info as always. I learn so much from watching your videos. Love how this method gives a little more flexibility. Thanks again, Matt.
Thanks Jeff, long response, because my 3+ acres of plots are right next to my home I came up with a little different method. I decided to mow them just like my yard,a little each night about every 3 weeks. This seems to reduce broadleaf and allow more grass. I killed it twice July and August at 4 inches and now waiting for rain. Seeds should slide right now in there. I pray! By the way everything I try is inspired by your teachings, best channel out there.
Hi Tex! You can fit about 30-35# of rye or fertilizer or mist seeds. We are working on a thicker bag and a little bit larger so we can potentially hit that 40# mark....maybe available by Christmas? It would be manufactured by Earthway for us as our own model.
I hope the gears in your presser are beefed up a bit. The earthway bag spreader gears are plastic junk that strip out easy. Great for spreading seed but not large quantities of fertilizer.
I heard that they changed the earthway spreaders and they are not near as good as what they were before. Was goi g to get one this year but dont want to take a chance on getting the new design
After repeated complaints, we were able to get thru to the folks at Earthway and they brought the OG BACK 😊 As of about April. We actually carry them on our Pure Wildlife Blends website now. In fact they tried 3 bad versions over about 18 months and after repeated complaints they brought the original back and discontinued all attempts to "improve" on a good thing 😊👍
Way to easy to smash and spray. Also any kind of mowing can clump or row the buckwheat so it lays on the seed and shades out the germination...or keeps the seed from getting to the soil if seeding after. Also not everyone has a flail mower 😊
Unfortunately after trying this for 4 years I've had the deer eat all the buckwheat every year and ended up with a great mix of diverse weeds by fall. Northwoods soil builder blend seemed to work a little better but still not perfect.
I think I waited too long. I see little pods of black seeds already. I can crush them and see a milky sap, but Im worried Im going to get too much residual buckwheat in my power greens and brassica.
best, easiest, cheapest way to put in a food plot. That being said, I made the mistake of having my cousin who was logging my neighbors put in my food plots this year. HUGE Mistake. he used tractor and brush hog and didnt spray enough to kill the weeds. now I have 70% weeds and 20% dirt and 10% clover. Just listen to Jeff guys and do it yourself! will be starting from scratch with Fall Power Greens
BW could be a waste if you have very high deer population, they can eat it to the ground. I’m in north central Michigan and have a lot of deer but they never really touched the buckwheat. Drought killed my buckwheat two years in a row but I just did what Jeff said and broadcast cereal rye to save the season
Hey, I am just trying to get the understanding of 24D correct, I thought you said in a previous video a couple weeks ago that you needed to wait 21 days after application of 24D to put seed on the ground? In this video it sounds like you said 10-14 days. Just trying to get it straight.
I made a mount that raised my seeder 6+ feet above ground level. I mounted it to the front of my side-by-side, put my sprayer on the tailgate and drug my cultipacker behind. Got everything done in one pass.
Now that's pretty dang cool Terry!!
Heck yeah.."Getter Done"
I did virtually the same thing only using Down Burst Seeder on front receiver hitch that can be calibrated similar to a grain drill having a 5 ft spreading width, which is also the width my John Deere Gator.
WAY TO GO MAC GYVER!!!
I did John Comps Soil blend this year and just terminated it and then will broadcast into the dead buckwheat and sunflower and then mow over top of it
3rd year on your ultimate no till....can't go back now brother!
Thanks so much, Jeff.
Luv the topic!!! I have not personally tried the buckwheat yet but u make it look so easy I’m thinking I gotta try next year. Thanks Jeff
Planted into Buckwheat nearly chest high this year in one pass using Down Burst Seeder mounted on front receiver hitch of John Deere Gator & also spraying Glyphasphate/cultipacking in the same pass. Seeder can be calibrated literally in a few short minutes with a metering system much like that of a grain drill that uses air for a 5 ft spread out of a drop tube positioned just under 11 inches off the ground.
Pretty cool system!
I shared with Doug of Down Burst Seeders some video that he edited and posted on Facebook & UA-cam if you're interested in seeing it in action.
I had to drive through my buckwheat with my atv just to make walking lanes and even after that it was a slog. But after I was done I hooked the cultipacker and put the sprayer on. Ran both at same time.
I bet it looked beautiful afterwords!!
That system works great!! Great video Jeff!
I'm glad you confirmed this for me. My buckwheat height has been dependent on the weather, some years 5ft, other years 2ft. Rolling it before on the year it was 5ft still worked great. I'll be moving up my buckwheat planting date next year. Glufosinate will nuke your pigweed and allow for planting the same day if you're tight on time.
Hi Rob! The Glyphosate won't touch the pigweed...or water hemp, or smart weed, or clover...so 2-4D is critical for some of those. We have unfortunately experienced this many times over...
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751I agree 100%, Glufosinate aka Liberty, will though. I learned how resistant Waterhemp is to gly last year, never again. 2,4d +gly 7-10 days before planting or Liberty the same weekend. Big relief to find out there are options against Pigweed, waterhemp, marestail, and other resistant weeds!
I've been having a hard time switching to this method but it's time! Bare fall plots and all this rain this summer it NEEDS to happen!
Changed up herbicides a but this year to get a hold on the noxious weeds like waterhemp and pigweed AND still be able to broadcast seed the same day.
Hey Jeff you mentioned that you will go with corn in that spot next year as a rotation. I know you will no till in the corn but how in the following year will you get rid of the debris your left to plant your next year plot without working it into the ground. Thanks for all the great info!!!
Carson city is a long ways away for us.in mi.good stuff.been using buckwheat about 3 yrs.now but the deer eat to the ground now.
I planted Buckwheat in early July in N. Carolina, and then drought hit. It’s just now about 6”. I recently fertilized to hopefully boost but am afraid it won’t be tall enough by the end of the month to crimp over when I plant my brassica.
Hi Chris the brassica will germinate very well with just a moderate amount of rain, when uncovered. So don't worry about it too much ..just make sure to take care of any weeds and broadcast the seed before a rain.
I planted Wednesday too. Thursday the rain almost completely missed me though 😢 didn’t rain till Monday. Now there’s no rain in the 7 day forecast
I love the buckwheat videos. My buckwheat didnt do very good this yr lack of rain and alot of turkeys. I thought you had to wait 20-30 days to plant after spraying 24-d
That's a bummer about the turkeys!
Plants shouldn't germinate before 14-21 days after spraying. We push that 14 day window quite a bit...but we don't over spray either.
🎉🎉🎉lets go!!!
thanks Jeff for the seed and programs you offer.
Much love from Northern WV!
You are very welcome...that means a lot to us! Thank you so much ..
Goals!
Yes .. always!
Great information about buckwheat. Step in the right direction, but wish you would start figuring out the best way to plant food plots without spraying herbicides and pesticides for people who prioritize their health and soils. I know it’s not as efficient, but worth the pay off for sure.
How do you terminate the rye in spring before planting the buckwheat?
Learned a lot from watching your videos! Appreciate what you do.
Thanks a lot for watching...really appreciate you!
I'm in northern MN on my first plot and I think I'll still have to plant into the standing buckwheat, it's not super tall yet. Don't know if I can afford to wait another week to plant it if I put 24d on.
Closing in on MO season I have been making some mock scrapes with a vine hanging and hanging cameras and was curious how often I’d at all would you “freshen it up” pour water to add moisture etc?
Question....I have a low lying area that is covered in nutgrass. If I get ahead of it this spring with a pre-emergeant....will buckwheat take care of the rest as the year goes on? I'm just looking for a way to get rid of the nutgrass and possibly get something else growing in its place for fall. It's an open area about 2 acres in size.
Switchgrass in the background looking good! Any idea why it looks like a lot of it is falling over. Only ask because mine is doing the same thing not sure on the fix?
How well does the buckwheat grow in sandy soil? Like in Northern Florida/southern Alabama?
Hey for 24D application how long do you have to wait to plant? I’ve heard different amounts of time in different videos for you, and I’m struggling to figure out how long to wait.
Hi Ben...14 days is pretty safe, because that means won't be germinating for around 21 days which is great! I push it down to 9/10 days, with good results because that is 16-17 days from spraying. I've never said 30 days...but definitely 14-21 days to be safe. Meaning germination at 14-21 days.
I hope that is much clearer mud 😁
When do you do the fertilizer? Does the fertilizer become unstable if it doesn't rain right away?
Hello! Good question. The nitrogen goes away after a few weeks in hot, dry weather...but that's it. We are using liquid fertilizer from DeerGro this year tho, which is immediately absorbed into the plant. We will spray that about 2 weeks after germination...
When you walk through with the bag spreader how do you know is you're getting enough overlap so there is no bare strips?
Love my SOLO spreader. The bags fail too quickly under heavy use.
Have put over 7000#s thru a 2750...in 1 season.
We actually have to run and gun our food plots too much and have too much seed to put out over too many acres, for a tank spreader 😉 Been there, done that...I think it's still in the bottom of the valley where I chucked it 🤣
Thanks Jeff. This is really good info as always. I learn so much from watching your videos. Love how this method gives a little more flexibility. Thanks again, Matt.
What kind of peas do you prefer ? Cow/forage.
Either forage or Austrian. We have a blend of cold heart forage peas we call Tundra peas...
www.purewildlifeblends.com/store/tundra-peas
Thanks Jeff, long response, because my 3+ acres of plots are right next to my home I came up with a little different method. I decided to mow them just like my yard,a little each night about every 3 weeks. This seems to reduce broadleaf and allow more grass. I killed it twice July and August at 4 inches and now waiting for rain. Seeds should slide right now in there. I pray! By the way everything I try is inspired by your teachings, best channel out there.
Are there any other people in the hunting industry that you would say we could listen to for advice and they are giving good advice?
Chasing Giants
Growing deer TV with Dr Grant woods
What is the weight capacity of the bag spreader,Looks far easier than a bucket type...
Hi Tex! You can fit about 30-35# of rye or fertilizer or mist seeds. We are working on a thicker bag and a little bit larger so we can potentially hit that 40# mark....maybe available by Christmas? It would be manufactured by Earthway for us as our own model.
I hope the gears in your presser are beefed up a bit. The earthway bag spreader gears are plastic junk that strip out easy. Great for spreading seed but not large quantities of fertilizer.
I heard that they changed the earthway spreaders and they are not near as good as what they were before. Was goi g to get one this year but dont want to take a chance on getting the new design
After repeated complaints, we were able to get thru to the folks at Earthway and they brought the OG BACK 😊 As of about April. We actually carry them on our Pure Wildlife Blends website now. In fact they tried 3 bad versions over about 18 months and after repeated complaints they brought the original back and discontinued all attempts to "improve" on a good thing 😊👍
Howwhat is the best way. To get rid or pig weed
it would be nice to get some dealers in mo
Our goal is to add 1-2 good dealers in each state...but over 95% of our sales are still online. A slow process...
I think ya have it perfected.Put some brassicas in last weekend.Got home and it poured.No shortage of water here.
What about flail mowing before planting. The buckwheat would be gone instantly.
Way to easy to smash and spray. Also any kind of mowing can clump or row the buckwheat so it lays on the seed and shades out the germination...or keeps the seed from getting to the soil if seeding after. Also not everyone has a flail mower 😊
Unfortunately after trying this for 4 years I've had the deer eat all the buckwheat every year and ended up with a great mix of diverse weeds by fall. Northwoods soil builder blend seemed to work a little better but still not perfect.
The soil builders are good but have to be tilled, unfortunately so not the best for those with light equipment
It would be nice but when l plant 3 acres of buckwheat it gets up about 6-8 inches and they eat it right to the ground
I think I waited too long. I see little pods of black seeds already. I can crush them and see a milky sap, but Im worried Im going to get too much residual buckwheat in my power greens and brassica.
This would be a great time to seed, roll, spray immediately if you only use Glyphosate. Or wait about a week to 10 days if you add 2-4D to the mix.
Sadly, the deer in my area eat the buckwheat to the ground before it's a foot tall
Anyway you guys could get a dealer in the south east?
best, easiest, cheapest way to put in a food plot. That being said, I made the mistake of having my cousin who was logging my neighbors put in my food plots this year. HUGE Mistake. he used tractor and brush hog and didnt spray enough to kill the weeds. now I have 70% weeds and 20% dirt and 10% clover. Just listen to Jeff guys and do it yourself! will be starting from scratch with Fall Power Greens
Buckwheat is a waste of time 😂 why are you preaching this nonsense, what are you gonna say next plant perennial rye for fall food lol
You're parents wasted their time😂
@@briandaniel9434 your* , 😂 bubba I think they already know that lol
BW could be a waste if you have very high deer population, they can eat it to the ground. I’m in north central Michigan and have a lot of deer but they never really touched the buckwheat. Drought killed my buckwheat two years in a row but I just did what Jeff said and broadcast cereal rye to save the season
Hey, I am just trying to get the understanding of 24D correct, I thought you said in a previous video a couple weeks ago that you needed to wait 21 days after application of 24D to put seed on the ground? In this video it sounds like you said 10-14 days. Just trying to get it straight.