Project 0137 | Making a polygon lathe cutter mechanism
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- Опубліковано 22 гру 2022
- In many cases, a processed piece on the lathe needs to have some shapes in some parts of it not cylindrical shapes that a conventional lathe cannot create. These shapes can be square, hexagons and generally polygons.
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I've been in machining my entire life including 5 axis CNC lathe and mill starting out as a manual machinist and I've never heard of or seen anything like this
I literally just learned about this a week ago when titans of cnc had a short about it seen a different one from them today then five minutes later this video on how to make one pops up on my feed quite amazing tbh
I think the secret is that you don't really get flat sides, just an approximation. Even then you'd only get a good approximation at specific combinations of diameter and gear ratio. 19:36 is a good example.
Два месяца назад это уже сделали в России ua-cam.com/video/SffBNPlxHjo/v-deo.html&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE
Two months ago it was already done in Russia
@@sleepib by the looks of it running off the lead screw on a 1-1 gear ratio is the ticket but yeah it’s based off gear ratio cutting tool numbers tool length and diameter lots of little details to work out excellent for production work not so much for less than 100 parts
Its just magic for me. Its all I can say...
That is a brilliant addition.
Thank you very much for your good comments Colin. We really appreciate it.
Hi, Colin! 🤘🤓👍
That is exactly what I was going to say! Well done.
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My mind is blown
Спасибо Евгению с канала Мехамозг.
Все же воспитанные такие. Поблагодарят всех, кроме тех, чью идею взяли.
Мехамозг взял эту инфу из литературы СССР. Он сам об этом говорил...
This is astounding!!! I am a machinist and a machine designer and if I didn't see this with my own eyes I wouldn't believe it possible to cut parallel flats in a lathe like this. What you have here is awesome. Beautiful job.
This is one of the coolest things I've seen you make!
I was thinking about that...
Agreed. I watched very carefully and still don't understand how it works. He's a freakin genius
Ok that's the best lathe trick I've ever seen!
Check out Mehamozg on UA-cam. He's Russian so unless you speak Russian good luck but he did this a long time ago
I have never seen anyone put one of these on a manual machine and I’ve definitely never seen someone make their own. You are a legend! Also, that demo with the sharpies was the best explanation I have ever seen as to how these work, and you didn’t even say a single word. This is an awesome video!
Он своровал идею у другого блоггера.
Take note This Old Tony … This is how you turn a cube (and many other polygons) on a lathe. By far one of the coolest things I’ve seen done ever, Well done!
It's a great concept if all you have available is a lathe. ToT uses either CNC to cut polygons or a dividing head on a mill to get precise flats on more important stuff. These all end up concave on the flats, which would probably be okay for most uses that don't require much torque.
This is the perfect demonstration where UA-cam engenders innovation. I can't wait to see how projects evolve in the coming years. What a great time to live!
DUDE!!! This is absolutely amazing! The thinking involved here and executing it so eloquently is a real treat to behold and my brain got bigger. You're the "Eddie VanHalen" of Machining. Just Wow!
And you don't know that "you're" is a contraction. You read/write/speak/hear the language every day and STUDIED it in school, but you just can't get it. No wonder you are "amazed." SMH
@@DiffEQ Not everyone has English as their first language.
@@MrTWOproductions WHAT!? Are you saying that other countries outside of USA has internet? 🤣
@@DiffEQ This is a Greek chanel, take your British colonialism somewhere else! 🤣
@@Henrik.Yngvesson Yes, here in the old world we even have Google Translate.
You are 1of the rare i have seen and worked with 40 years ago.keep our heritage lights burning bright upon the tallest poles which is you.
Well done.
This just brings back memories from forty years ago. An old machinist, tool die maker made this attachment for a lathe. I tip my hat to you "Make it Extreme." Job well done.
You have to remember, a lathe is the only machine that can reproduce itself.
Milling lathe?
By far, the coolest build I've seen this year.
Fantastic work, as always.
Thanks for sharing guys
So I know I just watched you build the whole thing. Watched how it works and saw you using it, and my brain doesn't want to believe it. This is sick.
^^^ what he said.
I just said basically the same thing.
It's like when Penn and Teller show you how the trick is done, and they still leave you confounded...
i was manual machinist for many years and now i am retired but still enjoying seeing machining. the enjoyment of making parts and see the final product get in your blood .
I had no idea what this was going to do until the markers taped to the cutter made their appearance, then it all clicked. Absolutely astounding work.
I have to admit I didn’t know what you were doing until you demonstrated it. One of the most incredible things I’ve ever seen. Being that it’s this channel that’s saying a lot.
Смотрел как под гипнозом. Превеликое уважение тебе Человеку созидающему!.
Trying to even understand how this works hurts my brain, yet you just whip one up that works brilliantly. Awesome level of skill!
A smaller diameter cutter cutting a decent size material with the 8 side profile could make some nice knobs with concave sides like you might see on control valves ;)
WTAF? Mind blown! Just amazing, thanks for sharing.
ua-cam.com/video/SffBNPlxHjo/v-deo.html -. Original
@@Boris_Blade_Britva I think in this video he is using cardan, other dude using cvj.
I've been watching channels like this one for many many years, most of them mill their hex patterns, but this guy has stepped up and displayed pure genius! Excellent work!
From one skilled machinist to another... This is just insane ..
very neat lathe option, incredible work !
I'm trying to understand the mathematics behind this! It's incredible!
I'm not even a machinist, but I can still see the amount of hardwork and genius into this beautiful mechanism.
Subscribed!
Perfect timing. Just saw the Titans of CNC version of this. Brilliant making it by hand!
ياصديقي انا مصمم لكني افهم ماقمت بعمله بهذا المقطع لقد قمت بعمل جبار، انت رجل خارق بالفعل تهانينا ياصديقي عمل رائع. صديقك هاشم من اليمن👍
Geometry really is amazing, and your lathe addon can be an incredibly powerful tool- To say nothing of the time saved in switching between lathe and mill.
Wish I could get my favorite YT creators to see this (Cutting Edge Engineering [Australia]), this seems like something RIGHT up Kurtis' alley
πρωτη φορα βλεπω κατι τετοιο, και εχω φαει πολλα βιβλια με πατεντες και εργαλεια τορνου. μπραβο
Michail wrote - courtesy Google Translate - first time I see something like this, and I have read many books with patents and lathe tools. Well done.
@@gyrogearloose1345 Thank you for your service.
ua-cam.com/video/SffBNPlxHjo/v-deo.html original
This is just insanely cool! I wish you were still doing your voice overs to get some insight into how you figure out this stuff, but like Ca Lem it is good to just watch masters at work. Your channel was the first I saw that made me want to learn machining! Best wishes for the holiday season
передаю огромный привет Евгению с канала @Mehamozg!!! Жень, ты большой молодец!!! твои работы служат примером и пособием для других мастеров!!!)
Having watched the whole video, I still can't wrap my head around what it's doing. I mean, I get how the mechanical parts work, that all makes sense. But I still don't understand how it's achieving the shapes. Amazing.
Wow, I love engineering, mechanics, geometry, 3D modelling, etc. and I just couldn't keep up with what you just did there! It is really amazing! Congratulations!!!
Wow, I've never seen anything like this. Congrats man
This man deserves a Nobel Prize for his skills and craftsmanship!
Он всего лишь своровал идею у другого блоггера.
I concur with the comments of the other engineers here. This is a very clever piece of engineering. Being academically clever is one thing, as is being highly skilled practically, it's when the two are combined that extraordinary achievements are realised.
Superb video.👋❤
What black magic is this, and how do I get my sorcery skills so high?
Seriously, though, I’ve been watching you guys for such a long time now. Been a Patreon supporter since the beginning. You guys never cease to amaze me with your creativity, your fabrication skills and your unstoppable drive.
I want to be just like you guys when I grow up. I’m in my 40s, but surely “grown up” is just around the corner.
Awesome work guys. Euclid would be proud.
From "The Machine shop of the Sierra Modre": "So, you're a machine shop. Where's your CNC?" "CNC? CNC? We don't need no stinking CNC!" Brilliant! A REALLY interesting, quality video! Thank you.
I like the nail you used when drill pressing the metal plate to keep it from sling shooting. There are too many youtubers I've seen that use a drill press and either don't clamp their piece down or use something like a screw to keep it from moving.
Absolutely crazy work! If I had just 1% of your talent I'd be over the moon. Beautiful to watch, my type of poetry
That is totally awesome! I’ve also been a machinist for 30 years, that took a lot of planning and engineering 👏👏
I am impressed with this person's skills and ability to design this. Amazing.
48 years as a machinist and toolmaker and I am amazed! Genius thinking!
I had to watch it a couple of times. I was worried the tool would make the flats slightly concave, but since the spindle and the tool rotate together and you're using a single point cutter there isn't an issue with concave cutting.
I would love to see this filmed with a high speed camera to better understand the mechanics of how this works. Incredible!
ditto
Some people are much ingenious than other. Thanks for this incredible manufacturing process.
I know this is maths, specifically geometry, plus some clever engineering. But that's BURN THE WITCH!!!-level magic to me. Amazing work.
I came across Polygon turning in CNC's only a month ago and I have been looking for all the info I can find, I believed it was possible to transfer to a manual lathe, and you just proved it......absolutely brilliant job and thank you for sharing...merry Xmas.
What black magic is this! 😁👏👏👏
I am blown away by the sheer brilliance of your work and ability to come up with this. Truly awe inspiring.
Wow, untill the marker demonstration I was confused how this would work, being able to add or subtract the about if sides the polygon has makes this such a complex build. congrats 👏
You've truly outdone yourself this time; if it were up to me I'd be looking into the "patent pending" side of things just incase.
*Well done* concerning every aspect of this build and its design. Merry CHRISTmas as well.
I did not know that such things were possible, I am blown away by this. You guys are amazing!
Check out Mehamozg on UA-cam. He's Russian so unless you speak Russian good luck but he did this a long time ago
You absolutely nailed it on the thumbnail for this. I figured out how it would work by looking at the thumbnail, but I was so proud of myself I wanted to watch it happen lol.
Great project. Please note that universal joints introduce a sinusoidal variation in the rotational speed that is proportionate to the angle through which the joint is turning. This means that when using two joints at opposite ends of a shaft, the joints should be indexed 180 degrees from each other so that the speed variations cancel out. Cheers!
I'm no machinist, so this is the first time I see this type of lathe attachment, super interesting!
This is just genius. What an awesome mod and excellent execution!
Seen this in other videos but great that you showed us how to do it. Thankyou. And now there should be over 1.9 million lathes around the world with this attachment
I used a polygon box driven off of the tool post.
It used wheels that touched the o/d to drive the thing, and the cutting tool moved towards the o/d and back again.
Exactly the same result.
Round bar made into hexagon.
It was a very clever design.
Ruston Gas Turbines Lincoln, is where I was trained.
Back in the 1970s, so it's nothing new.
Your version I've never seen before., but very clever.
That geometry makes my head hurt😂. Great video.
I am not a machinist but such a Lovely and finest job its very rare to seen.
É verdade torneiro tem muito agora criativo tem poucos
👍 agree 100%
and a nod to health safety too, all wall fitting guards, iven on the drive shaft thing, very well implemented work,
is the a new idea, or was it more making stand machine into up market one
anyway like video, no flash light, stuff, just the contents, that all that's needed?
Μπράβο!!! μεγάλε μάστορα, τι ωραία πατέντα έφτιαξες, τι ωραία εργαλεία έκανες, very very good Bravo!!!
man, where to like 1000x .... the creativity of the creators of the channel is amazing👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🤝
Thank you so much
To remove the need to check for progress every now and then, make a strobe light syncked to chuck rpm. The piece being procecced will seem to be stationary during operation.
Genius!
Absolutely wonderful
Два месяца назад это уже сделали в России ua-cam.com/video/SffBNPlxHjo/v-deo.html&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE
Two months ago it was already done in Russia
What else will you do? You take the profession to the top. great work !
A joy to see such a legendary master.
This is an awesome addon for the lathe! Should be a new standard attachment!
The machining was good but the Engineering is Superb , You are Very Talented / and your Algebra s not bad neither ............
Faster than a collet block on a mill. Minus the build time. Pretty epic !
Amazing work. I thought it was going to be a clock! The geometry is mind bending. So now we need a video about how you set up the gear train/gearbox and calculate the size of cutter relative to the size of the polygon.
Два месяца назад это уже сделали в России ua-cam.com/video/SffBNPlxHjo/v-deo.html&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE
Two months ago it was already done in Russia
Sei un grande maestro...non finirai mai di stupire...👹👹👹...buon Natale a te famiglia e tutti i fans che ti seguono...
You are an absolute genius. I have no idea how you figured this out or how it even works. You make this look so easy lol and i know it's extremely difficult. Well done buddy, I really enjoy watching you create these amazing tools and machines. Freakin incredible.
I would have watched the build if it took 8 hrs. I couldn’t stop watching. Amazing work!
Magnifique travail -
Wow. Super impressive.Takes a better spatial understanding than I can muster to dream up something like that.
DANG! If anybody had told me "watch me extract a polygon out of a round RIGHT at the late chuck!" I would have responded with a "No frigging way! IMPOSSIBLE!!!!" Glad to have seen this first here so I don't look like an idiot... Simply amazing!
Absolutely awesome!!!🤩 Great job, Dude!
What kind of sorcery is this........ this guy is amazing
Check out Mehamozg on UA-cam. He's Russian so unless you speak Russian good luck but he did this a long time ago
Hugely enjoyable to watch - respect for your thinking and fabrication. For me the music could be way quieter, but other than that - top stuff!
Brilliant, dude! Really fantastic work!!! 😃
Crazy what your machine can do!!!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Merry Christmas and happy new year!
Два месяца назад это уже сделали в России ua-cam.com/video/SffBNPlxHjo/v-deo.html&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE
Two months ago it was already done in Russia
Magic pure Magic.
Гениально !!!!!! Однозначно подписка и лайк !!!! Всё видео смотрел с открытым ртом .....
Привет из РОССИИ !!!
OOOOOOKAY I watched this whole thing from the start not knowing anything about what this was even for or what the point was or anything, and then right at the end, boom magic, that was awesome.
You made me want to buy a lathe machine !!!
On the channel of the Russian blogger "Мехамозг" there was a more detailed video about this method of machining. Moreover, he carved a full-fledged dagger with this method.
author of the idea " Mehamozg " stolen idea....
two months earlier - ua-cam.com/video/SffBNPlxHjo/v-deo.html
dagger making - ua-cam.com/video/GdtRysVOEu0/v-deo.html
This is insane, just on another level from what you usually see.
Respect!!
Das ist absolut unglaublich was du herstellst.
Respekt
Is this able to do multiple sizes of each shape by varying the offset or do you need different sized cutting bits?
there's a range that you can do with each cutter, depending how flat you need the flats, larger and smaller sizes with make concave or convex but in many cases is still more than fine for a wrench. you could also have attachments for making internal and external splines. or even a gear hobbing tool, those require more tooling selection for different sizes. i do stuff like this with live tooling on a cnc lathe.
Hadn't even considered this could be done. Outstanding, much respect!! Question is could you build a cutting head that would cut polyganol holes instead of using a broach? Thank you for sharing this and your amazing talents, your tig work is superb!
This guy is literal genius.
I am not a machinest but I have taken a few machine shop classes over the years so I kind of understand what is going on. First you removed the timing pulley and replaced it by a gear driven transmission (nicely done esp the plexi safety guard. You use this to drive a rotating cutter head that you fabricated. Then you created a series of devices that drive the cutter in such a way as to create a variety of hex configurations. In essence you turned the lathe into an mill that allows you to mill all the flats, all at once as long as you have the right hex tool in the drive shaft. Impressive. How close am I machinsts out there. I am a big fan of the CEE YT channel of Kurtis in Aus. Now I have to subscribe to this one as well.
I don't believe: how it's possible! you are amazing!
My best wishes for holiday and happy new 2023
I've always thought I had above average spatial reasoning, but I had to slow this video down and watch it a few times to wrap my head around the geometry 😅
The shapes machined by this process are not flat. They have a slight curve. The original idea behind this process is that these are flats to apply a spanner.
Dude even finishes off with paint and labelling! Nice!
It's videos like these that make me want to get into machining. Amazing work!
For most of the video I was thinking why would you want the cutter spinning the same speed as the part. This was amazing after I saw how it works! It’s too bad you basically need a whole machine shop to make the tool instead of just the lathe (which is all I have)
This tool is amazing, dont get me wrong, but you can just use a mill to square or hex cut with much cheaper tooling.
@@jwljwljwwwwl but would this be cheaper than buying a mill… I only have a lathe
Mehamozg makes it on a lathe only... Go check his channel
Edit: you'll need to turn on subtitles
@@1259bogs I think it was @InheritanceMachining who said: "a lathe is just a mill tipped over"
@@benjaminwetter3285 I’ve seen some of his vids, and yes that is true. I would have to make a milling attachment though (not saying I won’t) because buying one for my lathe is too expensive
trying to wrap my brain around this one! absolutely amazing! thank you for flexing brother, your knowledge shared inspires thousands of people, including me.