How dare you mock a mature lady about her age in a universe where Banelings die young! 😠 Brenda has been dutifuly fighting for us - er, I mean the Zerg - since the Brood War! 😤
Jimmy was all over the board on the overlay today. Game one and two were both 0 to 0 best of 5, two got fixed partway through once winter noticed, game three showed the score as 0 to 0 with no best of, game 4 was 2 to 1 in a best of 3, with game 5 being back to correct.
There something to be said about about games with 1 level lower than top world/gsl - they often are funnier to watch, u never know what happens and big advantage doesn't end game cause big mistakes alsso happen quite often
I love these games from not quite top tier players. It's way more entertaining to see matches that aren't decided by one minor mistake by one player, and where they aren't slavishly following the meta to a T.
It's so nice to see people with multiple personalities doing so successfully on UA-cam. I show my disabled child your videos to prove that no matter your challenges, you can be anything you want to be.
I have never played or watched StarCraft 2 but I kinda know what it is I think and you asked so nicely and the algorithm put you before me, how can I say no?
never played a game in my life, but i watched since the days of HD starcraft/husky starcraft. i love to see the evolution of tactics, like when protos put a single unit in the gap of the wall. then a single unit and then a battery behind.
Man, Bly was really struggling that 2nd game. Lost 3-4 Drones to an Adept because he didn't tell the Queens right next to it to kill it and criminally under-utilized his Biles vs the Cannons and Batteries. Definitely could have won that before it got to Carriers. Wow, you almost never see Mutas just win a game straight-up up like that, at least among the pros! Heh, looks like Nice had his own game-2 moment to close it out. Balance is restored ;p Love the new maps!
18:18 HAHAHAHHA I got that reference!! Nice one Winter!! As always amazing casts! Only watched the first match, AND HOLY SHIETTT WHAT AN AMAZING GAME!! :D THANK YOUUU Winter!! 30:48 I love how u just added the 1 on the win counter, I was thinking huh?
Am I crazy but wouldn't it be awesome if we had maps specifically made for specific races? F.e a map that only would be available only for ZvT, the positions would be fixed, terrain would not be symmetrical and it would have advantages and disadvantages for both races
Then answer to yourself "yeah it will hurt because beyond a certain point it doesn't hinder Phoenix which are quite tanky & get rotated which is why pro Zergs only kill a certain number of their own drones but its hard explaining that to metal league players."
they both made mistakes which makes it an imperfect game. which actually makes it super entertaining. a real fun tug of war! i like the protoss player. nice fun.
I have never played SC2. I never watch any games, except for your casts. You are very good at commentating these games and I find it endlessly entertaining.
At 40 minutes- why wouldn't Bly send up an overlord to carry the zerglings into the mined out main? Then they could run into the natural and sweep the drones. It'd be a perfect distraction while they assault the third. Do enough damage to the mining and they wont have the interceptor production.
It drives me nuts that Zerg don't see a cloud of phoenix they can't deal with, and just 'take the hits' like Winter says. The drones are going to die anyway- instead of losing 5 here, 5 there, 3 more, then bunch of overlords and queens too for good measure, etc, just shotgun out 4 spores as soon as you identify the problem. Now you're permanently phoenix-proof and it only cost 4 drones (plus 4 more in mineral cost), which pays for itself essentially every time.
it's not quite that straight forward, yes it is annoying to see pro players not use the tools available to them, but when you preemptively kill your drones to make static defense, you still lose the mining time and resources they would have gotten until their unfortunate end. Also, often at that level, the other guy notices you spent a bunch of resources to stop one strategy and says, "good enough, now he is out a bunch of drones and i can't just fly in, let me do something else that he doesn't have money for now." We end up with a balancing act, where each player is trying to do the most with the least, trying to get the other guy to commit to one defense, then do something else with the resources they gained by not doing that.
also, with the debatable exception of serral, they are human, they play at a level that not many can match, but they don't always do the best action for the situation.
I am also angry watching this :) but the problem is phoenixes are units, and very mobile - so when zerg spends 1000 minerals on static defence behind mineral lines, protoss can attack from the front with 1000 minerals bigger army (using those phoenixes). On pro level I would imagine this can be gg at the early to beginning of mid game
@@jankowalski1501you don't spend 1000, you spend 200, which means if it saves you two overlords (or 4 drones) (or kills 1 phoenix and/or prevents future runbys) you're way ahead A lot of players- and pro players especially- are determined to do 'what is the absolute best', which requires perfect APM/reactions. Simply don't lose any drones to phoenix and micro properly! But as was said, they are human, and a 4 APM 'make 4 spores' is a very-low-risk play compared to 'micro perfectly under pressure'
@@LordEvilreaver "Way ahead" or even partly ahead is complete nonsense. Even if you do your math correctly & take into account the total cost of drones, spores & lost mining appropriated for game time (early drone losses are much more damaging than later ones), you are forgetting something much more important... adding a few extra spores does not stop the Phoenix from killing drones. They are very tanky and good Protoss rotate the injured ones.
Which race has the best defensive resources and mechanics ? Zerg with spines, spores, creep, queens, heal, slow HP regen, walls? burrow? nydus? and productions mechanics? Protoss with cannon, battery, overcharge, walls, sim-city, shield regen, recall, chrono boost? and production mechanics? Terran with walls, doors, lifts, bunkers, sim-city, planetary fortresses, turrets, sensor towers, repair, scan, scv loading? and productions mechanics? Any things else that doesn't respond to select all army?? ;)
Popular Opinion: Bring Back the Mothership Core and Keep the Shield batteries. We won't even need wall just reaction time like our entire race is designed around
Nice was a Husky that's how he plays so good. I'd like to see an actual StarCraft Universe with Unreal Engine, first person playing as Ghost or Dark Templar with Path of Exile passives extracting samples or Bio Warfare amongst various systems were strains change with environments Good/Bad so players have to cleanse the infestation.
Since you said please...
No, no please.
no,no,no please
i was thinking the same thing. lol
I don't know if anyone said this already
But the thumbnail is the true 6 pool
they did, on lowkos stream, months ago.
The 6pool was the friends we made along the way
It crazy seeing sc2 having a small comeback like 15 years into it. This game is literally the most consistent part of my life
fr wol players returning
for me and maybe many, not a lot of good games came out.
ive been replaying old games.
I played the original starcraft. Quit. Came back on sc2. Quit around 2018. Now I'm back again.
One thing I have noticed, I'm not good as I used to.
"Take up the shards of glass which were his economy and shiv Bly" - you are a poet
The neural parasite scene in game 1 was godlike as well
"Changeling comes in... changeling goes out. You can't explain that" 👌😂
Elite reference😅
the Brenda jokes never gets old... unlike Brenda herself tho
Underrated comment!
How dare you mock a mature lady about her age in a universe where Banelings die young! 😠
Brenda has been dutifuly fighting for us - er, I mean the Zerg - since the Brood War! 😤
LMFAO
i dunno guys, how come brenda lost her wings but kerrigan still has hers
Man you really do have a talent for this, I rekindled my love for SC2. Commentary is masterclass!
Jimmy was all over the board on the overlay today. Game one and two were both 0 to 0 best of 5, two got fixed partway through once winter noticed, game three showed the score as 0 to 0 with no best of, game 4 was 2 to 1 in a best of 3, with game 5 being back to correct.
Happy St. Patrick's Day jimmy!
There something to be said about about games with 1 level lower than top world/gsl - they often are funnier to watch, u never know what happens and big advantage doesn't end game cause big mistakes alsso happen quite often
It's Winter... it's Starcraft 2.. got my coffee, and favorite breakfast pastry. Let's Go
I love these games from not quite top tier players. It's way more entertaining to see matches that aren't decided by one minor mistake by one player, and where they aren't slavishly following the meta to a T.
Holy shit, ITS BLY! I haven't seen a Bly game in literally years. I haven't even watched this yet, but I'm excited.
Did I hear "CorrosiveBlyle?"
ok winter, ok. it's 3am here and i got a full day of work coming but here goes
It's really amazing how big the skill differences are between Serral and someone like Bly with EPT EU rank 16 atm
It's so nice to see people with multiple personalities doing so successfully on UA-cam. I show my disabled child your videos to prove that no matter your challenges, you can be anything you want to be.
So there's Jimmy and Brenda and sometimes Susan inside Winter's head
@@adoi8467Ricky and the Boys are recurrent characters, but we never see their perspective
@@adoi8467 The Boys, the blue-mineral workers, are often included but they aren't paid enough to get a name
so do you show them Winter's videos or Jimmy's?
8:24 that's my kind of fight. chaotic and everyone in
One of these days I'm going to actually see a healing shrine heal a unit.
All pro players: But not this day!
I have never played or watched StarCraft 2 but I kinda know what it is I think and you asked so nicely and the algorithm put you before me, how can I say no?
DJ BLY looking much more FLY... oh Winter your commentary is so good it is out of this universe :-)
never played a game in my life, but i watched since the days of HD starcraft/husky starcraft. i love to see the evolution of tactics, like when protos put a single unit in the gap of the wall. then a single unit and then a battery behind.
H-to-the-usky Husky!
Of all the series you have cast, that was certainly one of them!
"not like this, i didn't want it like this" 😂😂😂
IYKYK
"Twilight Imperium" and now I want to play the board game of the same name
This really is a breath of fresh air, this different style of play.
Though after 11min mark in game one it got a little hard to breathe as chaos embraced _us._ ;)
46:30 did Nice just shot his own nexus with the tempests? xD
Man, Bly was really struggling that 2nd game. Lost 3-4 Drones to an Adept because he didn't tell the Queens right next to it to kill it and criminally under-utilized his Biles vs the Cannons and Batteries. Definitely could have won that before it got to Carriers.
Wow, you almost never see Mutas just win a game straight-up up like that, at least among the pros!
Heh, looks like Nice had his own game-2 moment to close it out. Balance is restored ;p
Love the new maps!
18:18 HAHAHAHHA I got that reference!! Nice one Winter!! As always amazing casts!
Only watched the first match, AND HOLY SHIETTT WHAT AN AMAZING GAME!! :D THANK YOUUU Winter!!
30:48 I love how u just added the 1 on the win counter, I was thinking huh?
I trusted you, Winter! I trusted you! And you did not disappoint, incredible games!
i love watching the "lower pro" matches. they make all the same mistakes, yet these guys are so good they can crush most GM's.
I do trust you, because every time you post this exact title I click on it and its been worthy every time.
Anomaly Found is such a beautiful map
48:00 Someone watched The Weather Channel xDD
Oh man, I don't know... I have a feeling this might just be...
A Game Of The Year...
Am I crazy but wouldn't it be awesome if we had maps specifically made for specific races? F.e a map that only would be available only for ZvT, the positions would be fixed, terrain would not be symmetrical and it would have advantages and disadvantages for both races
when you see a massive amount of phoenix slaughtering drone lines over and over you gotta ask yourself; "will it hurt to add a couple more spores?"
Then answer to yourself "yeah it will hurt because beyond a certain point it doesn't hinder Phoenix which are quite tanky & get rotated which is why pro Zergs only kill a certain number of their own drones but its hard explaining that to metal league players."
@@hivetech4903why explain? When you can tell them to play like a noob, insted of play like a pro without skill?
I'd trust Winter with my kids (if I had any).
Just woke up, so should be a good watch for the morning.
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It's been too long since we've had Corrosive Blyles.
I bet every time he asks Jimmy what number we're at he's just looking at a white board with a number written on it😄
50:00
No way... I love my demographic of internet denizens.
"That's pretty neat!"
WinterStarcraft... We are brothers.
Lmao that is too damn funny and quite clever!! 2:32
they both made mistakes which makes it an imperfect game.
which actually makes it super entertaining. a real fun tug of war!
i like the protoss player. nice fun.
If you're watching sc2 content in 2024 and not subscribe to winter what are you even doing?
15:06 Hydras have a "nah, I'd win" moment. 💀💀💀
“Trust me” are usually the last words you hear before getting screwed over… but okay Winter I’ll indulge you.
Game 1 turned into such a mud fight, that supply graph really tells a story.
58:20 if Nice left the Oracles there, would they get healed? Or is there an air blocker?
0:45 lol I guess even pro players forget which base they are in & build their hatch in what they think is their own natural!
4:20 "but like the opposite" good timing.
love the quality of the videos always top notch.
Winter: "Hydras don't technically counter Carriers."
Bly: "I still won't get Corruptored!"
This series is a true exercise in frustration and patience
1:01:03 that pylon snipe to stop the warp-in was beautiful
Burrowing overlords, next patch.
that anomaly found map looks really cool, at first glance id like to see it in ladder (might regret that later but for now yes)
'Moo tas' cracked the shit out of me.
42:57 Sup-bly's uncomfortably close to even. Did you miss that one? :P
I have never played SC2. I never watch any games, except for your casts. You are very good at commentating these games and I find it endlessly entertaining.
3:41 nuff said
Урааа, Блай!
Underratedly hilarious how many of Winter's repeat bits are just early 2000's political humor
9:55 lol wtf
I'd say trying to kill a group of lings with phoenixes is like trying to cut grass with scissors.
Lol, Bly and Partying ve a speacial place in my heart!
At 40 minutes- why wouldn't Bly send up an overlord to carry the zerglings into the mined out main? Then they could run into the natural and sweep the drones. It'd be a perfect distraction while they assault the third. Do enough damage to the mining and they wont have the interceptor production.
Lifted banelings should hit air!
These maps are cool ..... Thank you for casting the replay!
im impressed! Bly made protoss looks overpowered in the first 2 matches.
Guys, I have been off starcraft 2 for about 6 months. Should I get back into it or not?
Estoy confiando en ti, me lo pediste de favor. No me traiciones! D:
I mean, Nice was attacking those spawning pools before the line got there... It's not like he didn't know
Winter staying true to his inner Bronze League Hero when choosing a game to cast is GOLD I mean BRONZE
It drives me nuts that Zerg don't see a cloud of phoenix they can't deal with, and just 'take the hits' like Winter says. The drones are going to die anyway- instead of losing 5 here, 5 there, 3 more, then bunch of overlords and queens too for good measure, etc, just shotgun out 4 spores as soon as you identify the problem. Now you're permanently phoenix-proof and it only cost 4 drones (plus 4 more in mineral cost), which pays for itself essentially every time.
it's not quite that straight forward, yes it is annoying to see pro players not use the tools available to them, but when you preemptively kill your drones to make static defense, you still lose the mining time and resources they would have gotten until their unfortunate end. Also, often at that level, the other guy notices you spent a bunch of resources to stop one strategy and says, "good enough, now he is out a bunch of drones and i can't just fly in, let me do something else that he doesn't have money for now." We end up with a balancing act, where each player is trying to do the most with the least, trying to get the other guy to commit to one defense, then do something else with the resources they gained by not doing that.
also, with the debatable exception of serral, they are human, they play at a level that not many can match, but they don't always do the best action for the situation.
I am also angry watching this :) but the problem is phoenixes are units, and very mobile - so when zerg spends 1000 minerals on static defence behind mineral lines, protoss can attack from the front with 1000 minerals bigger army (using those phoenixes). On pro level I would imagine this can be gg at the early to beginning of mid game
@@jankowalski1501you don't spend 1000, you spend 200, which means if it saves you two overlords (or 4 drones) (or kills 1 phoenix and/or prevents future runbys) you're way ahead
A lot of players- and pro players especially- are determined to do 'what is the absolute best', which requires perfect APM/reactions. Simply don't lose any drones to phoenix and micro properly! But as was said, they are human, and a 4 APM 'make 4 spores' is a very-low-risk play compared to 'micro perfectly under pressure'
@@LordEvilreaver "Way ahead" or even partly ahead is complete nonsense. Even if you do your math correctly & take into account the total cost of drones, spores & lost mining appropriated for game time (early drone losses are much more damaging than later ones), you are forgetting something much more important... adding a few extra spores does not stop the Phoenix from killing drones. They are very tanky and good Protoss rotate the injured ones.
I always wanted to see a FFA between Bly Astrea and insert crazy terran.
You don't have to say trust me when I always watch ALL your content.
NO WAY!!! I DO NOT BELIEVE THE 2 GUYS ARE BACK
47:46 I’m a scrub at this game, but why didn’t he make corrupters and more vipers?
9:00
_space juice_
Bly: "Zergs units are so weak so why waste money on armour upgrades?"
Jimmie is more invisible than Adrian Griffin.
cant wait to play these new maps, they look great
It's ok you realize your own mistake. I truly like how you strive for greatness. Keep going, you and Jimmy are doing amazing!
Crimson King, eh? I wonder if that is a reference to something.
Bill O'Reilley was referenced twice in this cast
havent watched winter in like 2 years .. but he said please
NICE played from behind like every time, but he played all his engagements so intelligently it made up for it.
Man blys bank in that first game is so painful.
Which race has the best defensive resources and mechanics ?
Zerg with spines, spores, creep, queens, heal, slow HP regen, walls? burrow? nydus? and productions mechanics?
Protoss with cannon, battery, overcharge, walls, sim-city, shield regen, recall, chrono boost? and production mechanics?
Terran with walls, doors, lifts, bunkers, sim-city, planetary fortresses, turrets, sensor towers, repair, scan, scv loading? and productions mechanics?
Any things else that doesn't respond to select all army?? ;)
I need a nap after this series holy
I don't even play this game, I just love the commentary, lol
are the new maps smaller?
Popular Opinion: Bring Back the Mothership Core and Keep the Shield batteries. We won't even need wall just reaction time like our entire race is designed around
Phoenixes are amazing when you use them right
My favorite unit! The one micro thing I can do very well actually...usually while neglecting the hell out of everything else ;P
I'm new here. Are Dennis Miller inflections intentional?
had me at Trust me. 😆
At the risk of a third cringe comment... Brenda you're flying again got me.
You didn’t disappoint :)
We need a counter for how many times Winter names a video this hahaha. I can think of like 4 already.
Nice was a Husky that's how he plays so good. I'd like to see an actual StarCraft Universe with Unreal Engine, first person playing as Ghost or Dark Templar with Path of Exile passives extracting samples or Bio Warfare amongst various systems were strains change with environments Good/Bad so players have to cleanse the infestation.
Brenda ur flying again ...Got Me