I wonder how long after this short story was published, when Hemingway committed suicide. Judging from this dark writing, it was obviously in his mind.
Hemingway is a rarity: an "imagist" novelist. It's a style of writing that is typically more suited to poetry. To appreciate it, you have to be someone who appreciates the simple, intense clarity of a thing . . . as much as (or more than) the thing itself.
@@QED_ Yes thanks, that helps me understand what was going on here. Well actually nothing was going on in the story, which I suppose is my impression from the other Hemingway short stories I've read. He had a great command of language for sure.
That was wonderful. Loved Hemmingway, Oscor Wild, and Hunter Tomson. Two of them blew there Brains out with Shot guns and the other became a Catholic. RIP Oscor Wild. Peace Out and Love MMLZZZ
You can’t love Oscar Wilde all that much or you would pay him the respect of at least spelling his name correctly. You’ve misspelt both his first name and his surname!
@Riklott1111 let me know when you read this, so I can delete it, so as not to give the answer too quick. The Bartender, older than the young impatient Waiter, is like the Old Man, but worse, perhaps, much worse. He has no wife or even a niece to go home to, and he imagines that Old Man suffers insomnia, like himself. We do not know that the Old Man needs "a clean, well lighted place," as a refuge from the lonely, empty night, but the Bartender himself does.
@@mikechristian-vn1le thank you I was thinking about the old man too much I wondered why the old bartender wasn’t in hurry to leave I guess only loneliness awaited him Thanks again
@Riklott1111 you're welcome. We assume it's just sympathetic kindness, until the twist of the very last sentence. I wonder, when, in the story, are we told of the age difference between the Bartender and the Waiter, other than we maybe assume that the Waiter is recently married and maybe young?
The character said the word, not the author. There are people that use bad grammar. They exist. I know you’re proud of yourself for knowing this. Try to control yourself. We’re not impressed.
Maybe it’s their respective or relative to one another’s ages, that has shaped their attitudes. I had not thought of that. I’m thinking the old man was only there as a prop to allow the contrast to develope; could have easily been a young man also.
I will explain: in the modern world the scam of organized Religion is obviously a fraud , so he was mocking the prayer of the Christian church to provide solace. He was facing the void of unvarnished reality:sad , lonely and cold universe.
Well I took it as mockery of rote, religious dogma. Um, if you can't appreciate it, 'guess you're unfamiliar with any religious dogma. Or maybe it means other things to other people.
It’s a mock version of the Lord’s Prayer that expresses the fear and feeling of despair exemplified by the old man and the middle aged waiter who feels empathy for the old man and wants to keep the cafe open. The clean, well-lighted place and the alcohol dispels some of the fear older people experience at night, whereas the other waiter is too young to have the same feelings.
I Love to Drink Alittle & Listen to Smooth Jazz Music to Take My Blues Away. I Wished Hemingway Had Listen to More Jazz. May He R,I,P,
Man o man how long have i been reading Hemingway n now listening to it is so brilliant
Another Gem from the master of eccentric and intriguing story telling. Thank you for posting.
Wonderful. Making the mundane beautiful.
Thank you
I wonder how long after this short story was published, when Hemingway committed suicide.
Judging from this dark writing, it was obviously in his mind.
About 40 years.
The storey I know, is by Hemingway but who, I wonder is the illustration of the café by?
Well I must admit I've never figured out the popularity of Hemingway's writings.
Hemingway is a rarity: an "imagist" novelist. It's a style of writing that is typically more suited to poetry. To appreciate it, you have to be someone who appreciates the simple, intense clarity of a thing . . . as much as (or more than) the thing itself.
Thats not me then
@@QED_ Yes thanks, that helps me understand what was going on here. Well actually nothing was going on in the story, which I suppose is my impression from the other Hemingway short stories I've read. He had a great command of language for sure.
@@andrewhanson5942 "No Country for Old Men" (Cormac McCarthy) is a modern day imagist novel . . .
I thought it was just me.
That was wonderful. Loved Hemmingway, Oscor Wild, and Hunter Tomson. Two of them blew there Brains out with Shot guns and the other became a Catholic. RIP Oscor Wild. Peace Out and Love MMLZZZ
Correct spelling Thompson
You can’t love Oscar Wilde all that much or you would pay him the respect of at least spelling his name correctly. You’ve misspelt both his first name and his surname!
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Hemingway was obsessed with drink and drinking establishments.
As are all alcoholics.
Did you catch it, the very end?
No?
@Riklott1111 let me know when you read this, so I can delete it, so as not to give the answer too quick. The Bartender, older than the young impatient Waiter, is like the Old Man, but worse, perhaps, much worse. He has no wife or even a niece to go home to, and he imagines that Old Man suffers insomnia, like himself. We do not know that the Old Man needs "a clean, well lighted place," as a refuge from the lonely, empty night, but the Bartender himself does.
@@mikechristian-vn1le thank you
I was thinking about the old man too much
I wondered why the old bartender wasn’t in hurry to leave
I guess only loneliness awaited him
Thanks again
@Riklott1111 you're welcome. We assume it's just sympathetic kindness, until the twist of the very last sentence. I wonder, when, in the story, are we told of the age difference between the Bartender and the Waiter, other than we maybe assume that the Waiter is recently married and maybe young?
from"winner take nothing" short story collection 1939.
* the word is hanged not hung
..and also lit, not lighted.
The character said the word, not the author. There are people that use bad grammar. They exist. I know you’re proud of yourself for knowing this. Try to control yourself. We’re not impressed.
Thankyou for your consideration@@garypedigogaeu5787 is there any elucidation to be gleaned from your comment ?
@@garypedigogaeu5787 I know .! Get a grip .
All that plus word usage changes with time.
The story is as much about the two waiters and their attitudes as it is about aging.
Maybe it’s their respective or relative to one another’s ages, that has shaped their attitudes. I had not thought of that. I’m thinking the old man was only there as a prop to allow the contrast to develope; could have easily been a young man also.
Look up Within Heaven's Gates by Rebecca Springer. Page 64.😇
Correcting Hemingway? Really?
Robotic. One “nada” further betrayed the artificial part.
Nada nada nada? I don’t understand this story
I will explain: in the modern world the scam of organized Religion is obviously a fraud , so he was mocking the prayer of the Christian church to provide solace. He was facing the void of unvarnished reality:sad , lonely and cold universe.
There is nothing to it. Hemingway's last gasp.
Well I took it as mockery of rote, religious dogma. Um, if you can't appreciate it, 'guess you're unfamiliar with any religious dogma. Or maybe it means other things to other people.
@@quickchris10 you o hint housing, inn,n
It’s a mock version of the Lord’s Prayer that expresses the fear and feeling of despair exemplified by the old man and the middle aged waiter who feels empathy for the old man and wants to keep the cafe open. The clean, well-lighted place and the alcohol dispels some of the fear older people experience at night, whereas the other waiter is too young to have the same feelings.
Geez, that AI can't tell the difference between indoors and out. We're safe for a while yet.