A rule change that was massive to me was Kenny Pickett's Fake Slide in the ACC Championship Game which exposed a loophole so bad in the rules, that both College Football and the NFL had to put a hotfox rule in, just so it couldn't be abused
I feel like QBs are still too protected when running. They can't fake slide anymore but they can still go for the sideline and bait a tackle only to step out of bounds and gain extra penalty yards.
Isaac, you are Mr Punts! How can you leave off the most famous rule change on punt plays?!? Intentional mass holding to drain the clock while the punter does his best to not get tackled and eventually get a safety if needed. The rules were changed to stop this.
@@IsaacPuntsTime for a 2nd video maybe? I also remember a rule change on where ineligable receivers can line up. The pats used a formation a few times in a game against the ravens that lined up ineligable people out at wideout.
Funny thing about that bills chiefs OT rule change. Chiefs tried to do that back when they lost to the patriots in OT in the 2018 season for the exact same reason, and got shut down. One of the teams that shot down the proposal? The bills lol
The pre-merger AFL also had the 2 point conversion for the entire 1960s. The highest scoring tie in NFL history was a 43-43 game between the Oakland Raider and Boston Patriots, and it was made possible because the Raiders failed a 2 point conversion to up 7, then the Patriots made a 2 point conversion to go up 3, then the Raiders tied it up with a late field goal.
John Harbaugh shaking his head in bewilderment after Belichick once again outmaneuvers him with an additional lineman as an eligible receiver is one of my favorites
@@limegreenelevator Super late Roughing the passer call on third down. Flag thrown four seconds after the play ended. Brady literally got slapped in the chest. Go back and look at it. You'll agree. Ford's call was legit.
The change to kick-off rules not allowing the kicking team to get a running start has mostly killed the onside kick. No individual play is at fault, but obviously concussions are a big factor. The fumblerooskie play that made yards gained after a fumble invalid is a big one that comes to mind. "Disconcerting signals" is a fun one too - I'm sure it must have a back story.
I love how noone mentions the fact that the previous year the Chiefs lost to the Patriots in the AFC Championship after the Pats won the toss in overtime and scored a touchdown.
Nobody talks about how the Cheifs went into OT against the Bengals after the Bills game, won the coin toss, and lost because the Bengals played defense
Yes but both teams were able to have an offensive drive. I don't think important games should ever just come down to one side of the ball, one way or the other.
@@IsaacPunts An even better example: no one talks about how the Chiefs lost the exact same way to the Patriots in the AFC Championship game in the 2018-2019 season, and no rule changes were discussed. No one even really complained. As soon as it happened to the Bills a few years later, everyone was up in arms.
@@ArtisticallySavvyPhotography I know the Bills actually were against the rule change. Probably knew they were cursed to have it bite them in the future
@@paulfish6644No, we tried to get the rule changed but the NFL didn’t want to change it back then. So I had 0 sympathy for the Bills when we beat them.
The funny thing about the OT rule is that it was the Chiefs who had previously conceived a proposal to fix the rule. And you wanna guess which team played a big role in it being turned down?
The fumble rule. Because of the "forward fumble" play by Kenny Stabler and the Raiders in the early 70s, the NFL made the rule that if the offense fumbles (I think in the last 2 minutes only, or maybe it has been expanded), only the player who fumbles the ball can advance it. Therefore, if the QB fumbles the ball, a lineman can't pick it up and advance it.
2 point conversions were allowed under the AFL rules in the 1960s, before the AFL - NFL merger eliminated them. I would say that the rules differences in the AFL were the same level of rules differences as the MLB had between the AL and NL up until the 2022 CBA, that is to say that most people usually count the games played in the AFL as an independent organization to be equally as valid for stats/records as NFL games during that time period.
The Bills somehow whined so much they got the overtime rules changed. Even though the Chiefs had lost the 2018 AFC championship game the exact same way to the Patriots, and the week after the Chiefs-Bills divisional game, the Bengals beat the Chiefs in overtime because they could actually play defense and stopped the Chiefs on their first OT possession. The rules only weren't fair when the Bills were involved, apparently.
The AFL in the 60s also had the two point conversion, but it wasn't adopted during the merger. Also, prior to it's adoption a team could still attempt an offensive play for 1 point.
Per the NFL overtime rules, I have no idea why they refuse to adopt the college football overtime rules which are 100% Superior. Also I'm pretty sure the 2 point try was adopted from CFB as well. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on that.
As a Long Snapper I can assure you that banning players being able to leap over the line on PATs/XPs is ABSOLUTELY a player safety thing. If someone trips over the snapper and falls on them, or slams them into the ground that could, and probably would, break their neck or at the very least cause some moderate injury. We’re in such a compromised position when snapping the ball I’m all for any rule change that gives us more protection against serious injuries.
The Bills weren't the only team that had complaints about the overtime possession rules; the Chiefs and Falcons had a beef about that in previous years. Also, the AFL had the 2-pt conversion in the 60s, so in addition to the USFL and NCAA; the deuce was known to the NFL.
Talk about the force out rule. A receiver back then could get one foot down and then be forced out to count as a catch 🤯. This rule saved the 2003 Packers season. The Packers needed the Viqueens to lose in order to win the division and let alone make the playoffs. Some guy for the Cardinals named Josh McCown, down 17-6 got the cardinals within 5. All the viqueens had to do was recover the onside kick and they’re NFC North champs. Nope. Later, final play of the game, Josh McCown says a prayer and it’s caught by an obscure WR named Nate Poole. He only had 1 foot down and was forced out. Packers got in. Poole was later given a key to the city in Green Bay. Rule was abolished in like ‘07 or ‘08
I love how the nfl changes OT rules over the bills game as if it had everything on the line but didnt do anything when the falcons didnt get the ball in the superbowl overtime
In my opinion the 28-3 superbowl is what started the conversation to change the OT rules A bit biased but as a Pats fan, people hate seeing the pats win and james white cashing that "anticlimactic " TD to seal the deal pissed people off
4:25 winner of that game went to the AFCCG, not the Super bowl that year. That same rule DID change the outcome of a championship game a few years before, where the Patriots beat the Chiefs in 2018 when KC never saw the ball in OT. Chiefs proposed the rule change and the Bills were one of the teams who declined- all worth noting, I think.
4:29 correction: they were going to the AFC Championship. This was the 2021-2022 season. The following week, the Bengals would beat the Chiefs 27 to 24 in overtime to go to the Super Bowl (which they then lost 23-20 to the Rams. Eli Apple)
What about this proposed rule? Allow the end zones to be from 10 to 20 yards deep. Keep the goal posts at the back of the end zone. This makes for more passing options in the red zone and adds more challenge to the kicking game (and allows for some additional seating $$ in new stadiums while not forcing old stadiums to change). Baseball stadiums are of different sizes/shapes and it works just fine. At times even causing some teams to adapt their style/players to their home field where they play half their games.
The Bills crying they lost because of the OT rule they didn't want changed when it screwed the Chiefs over is such delicious karma. Also interesting how the Eagles wanted a rule change under the guise of player safety while defending the tush push which is far more likely to cause injury is predictable.
@@Michael-sb8jf yes, you could kneel before the meadowlands, but the QB wouldn't be down until someone touched them, so the ball could still be stripped. After the meadowlands the QB was down when he kneeled
I mean, they technically changed the rule, but they sabotaged the reviews so they could change it back, so it's not like it actually changed anything longterm.
Cowboys fans keep whining about being screwed without the self awarenees that the cowboys benefitted from the Lions being blatantly screwed over the week before.
Its really rich that the Eagles of all teams pushed for a play to get banned and complained about it being exploited. They are the Filthadelphia Cheaters after all.
Um... a lot of misinfo here on the tuck rule. -Regardless of the quality of the rule, the call was correct according to that rule. So it was not a "bad call" nor was it "allegedly" an incomplete pass; by nature of the rule, it was an incomplete pass. It may have been a bad rule, but the call was right. -It was not the first time the Tuck Rule had been called even that season. The Pats had it called against them (i.e. overturning a forced fumble and recovery) in Week 2 of '01. -The Pats abstained from the vote that abolished the tuck rule; they didn't vote for (or against) its abolishment. I like your stuff, but jhst missed a lot here. Your penance is to make a video about the field goal Vinatieri made to tie the game... 45 yards through a driving wind and snow.
Brett Kollmann thumbnails have officially taken over sports UA-cam
Dude is good at thumbnail creation, give 'im a break xD
A rule change that was massive to me was Kenny Pickett's Fake Slide in the ACC Championship Game which exposed a loophole so bad in the rules, that both College Football and the NFL had to put a hotfox rule in, just so it couldn't be abused
I feel like QBs are still too protected when running. They can't fake slide anymore but they can still go for the sideline and bait a tackle only to step out of bounds and gain extra penalty yards.
@@giannidisumma2948any player can do this
@@giannidisumma2948 Or when they slide late and get pummeled.
Isaac, you are Mr Punts! How can you leave off the most famous rule change on punt plays?!? Intentional mass holding to drain the clock while the punter does his best to not get tackled and eventually get a safety if needed. The rules were changed to stop this.
Wow that is a great one that I completely had an oversight on!
@@IsaacPuntsTime for a 2nd video maybe? I also remember a rule change on where ineligable receivers can line up. The pats used a formation a few times in a game against the ravens that lined up ineligable people out at wideout.
Funny thing about that bills chiefs OT rule change. Chiefs tried to do that back when they lost to the patriots in OT in the 2018 season for the exact same reason, and got shut down. One of the teams that shot down the proposal? The bills lol
The Bills tried to get the Bengals no-huddle offense banned, then went to the K-gun.
The pre-merger AFL also had the 2 point conversion for the entire 1960s. The highest scoring tie in NFL history was a 43-43 game between the Oakland Raider and Boston Patriots, and it was made possible because the Raiders failed a 2 point conversion to up 7, then the Patriots made a 2 point conversion to go up 3, then the Raiders tied it up with a late field goal.
The 2 point conversion was basically an option at every level of football except the NFL.
The most important rule change that led this sport to eventually become what it is today : the allowance of the forward pass!
As a Green Bay fan, please don't tell Chicago. It's still funny.
Dez’s catch being taken back still hurts. And it doesn’t help that this was the last chance Tony Romo would get to bring a ring home.
cry some more then
John Harbaugh shaking his head in bewilderment after Belichick once again outmaneuvers him with an additional lineman as an eligible receiver is one of my favorites
Always find the bills overtime rule change funny considering the chiefs lost to the patriots in the AFC championship a couple years prior…in OT.
On a bullshit call too.
@@whiskeymonk4085What BS call? The Dee Ford offside where he was lined up offside?
@@limegreenelevator Super late Roughing the passer call on third down. Flag thrown four seconds after the play ended. Brady literally got slapped in the chest. Go back and look at it. You'll agree.
Ford's call was legit.
The change to kick-off rules not allowing the kicking team to get a running start has mostly killed the onside kick. No individual play is at fault, but obviously concussions are a big factor. The fumblerooskie play that made yards gained after a fumble invalid is a big one that comes to mind. "Disconcerting signals" is a fun one too - I'm sure it must have a back story.
I love how noone mentions the fact that the previous year the Chiefs lost to the Patriots in the AFC Championship after the Pats won the toss in overtime and scored a touchdown.
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Nobody talks about how the Cheifs went into OT against the Bengals after the Bills game, won the coin toss, and lost because the Bengals played defense
Yes but both teams were able to have an offensive drive. I don't think important games should ever just come down to one side of the ball, one way or the other.
@@IsaacPunts An even better example: no one talks about how the Chiefs lost the exact same way to the Patriots in the AFC Championship game in the 2018-2019 season, and no rule changes were discussed. No one even really complained. As soon as it happened to the Bills a few years later, everyone was up in arms.
No, we complained and the Bills were one of the teams that shot down the idea of a rule change
@@ArtisticallySavvyPhotography I know the Bills actually were against the rule change. Probably knew they were cursed to have it bite them in the future
@@paulfish6644No, we tried to get the rule changed but the NFL didn’t want to change it back then. So I had 0 sympathy for the Bills when we beat them.
I was shocked to not see Megatron mentioned during the catch talk. But an enjoyable video nonetheless 👏
Lions getting no love, as usual. Lol
It was Megatron, Dez, and then Jesse James that had that problem from what I remember
The funny thing about the OT rule is that it was the Chiefs who had previously conceived a proposal to fix the rule. And you wanna guess which team played a big role in it being turned down?
Is it the bills??? 😢
Da Bills
The fumble rule. Because of the "forward fumble" play by Kenny Stabler and the Raiders in the early 70s, the NFL made the rule that if the offense fumbles (I think in the last 2 minutes only, or maybe it has been expanded), only the player who fumbles the ball can advance it. Therefore, if the QB fumbles the ball, a lineman can't pick it up and advance it.
Jumping the line should be allowed, change my mind
It is allowed. You just can’t touch the player
Change mine too.
nah you just can't gently tickle the underside of their balls because it makes them giggle@@jasonfreitas6845
2 point conversions were allowed under the AFL rules in the 1960s, before the AFL - NFL merger eliminated them. I would say that the rules differences in the AFL were the same level of rules differences as the MLB had between the AL and NL up until the 2022 CBA, that is to say that most people usually count the games played in the AFL as an independent organization to be equally as valid for stats/records as NFL games during that time period.
The Bills somehow whined so much they got the overtime rules changed. Even though the Chiefs had lost the 2018 AFC championship game the exact same way to the Patriots, and the week after the Chiefs-Bills divisional game, the Bengals beat the Chiefs in overtime because they could actually play defense and stopped the Chiefs on their first OT possession. The rules only weren't fair when the Bills were involved, apparently.
It's fine. Even with the rule change, they still choked when it mattered.
I still remember being so excited and then so immediately heart broken watching that cowboys playoff game
The big thing with that block on Justin Tucker was that was his only missed kick off the season. He was that close to a perfect season.
The AFL in the 60s also had the two point conversion, but it wasn't adopted during the merger. Also, prior to it's adoption a team could still attempt an offensive play for 1 point.
Per the NFL overtime rules, I have no idea why they refuse to adopt the college football overtime rules which are 100% Superior. Also I'm pretty sure the 2 point try was adopted from CFB as well. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on that.
How about the successive offensive penalties to keep the clock rolling? Insert Bill Bellicheck video with Kawhi awkward laugh sound!
He wasn't smiling when Vrabel did the same thing to him.
The dez catch always gets me bro
Preemptively banning something for safety concerns makes far more sense than waiting for a serious injury to do it
As a Long Snapper I can assure you that banning players being able to leap over the line on PATs/XPs is ABSOLUTELY a player safety thing. If someone trips over the snapper and falls on them, or slams them into the ground that could, and probably would, break their neck or at the very least cause some moderate injury.
We’re in such a compromised position when snapping the ball I’m all for any rule change that gives us more protection against serious injuries.
Didn’t he say it has never happened?
@@Burkiusdoesn’t necessarily mean it’s not possible, and isn’t likely. It’s better to prevent injuries before they happen in the first place.
The Bills weren't the only team that had complaints about the overtime possession rules; the Chiefs and Falcons had a beef about that in previous years. Also, the AFL had the 2-pt conversion in the 60s, so in addition to the USFL and NCAA; the deuce was known to the NFL.
shea mcclellin (Pats Legend) made Jamie Collins (Pats Legend) so proud with that hop
Talk about the force out rule. A receiver back then could get one foot down and then be forced out to count as a catch 🤯. This rule saved the 2003 Packers season. The Packers needed the Viqueens to lose in order to win the division and let alone make the playoffs. Some guy for the Cardinals named Josh McCown, down 17-6 got the cardinals within 5. All the viqueens had to do was recover the onside kick and they’re NFC North champs. Nope. Later, final play of the game, Josh McCown says a prayer and it’s caught by an obscure WR named Nate Poole. He only had 1 foot down and was forced out. Packers got in. Poole was later given a key to the city in Green Bay. Rule was abolished in like ‘07 or ‘08
Looks like the tush push is sticking around another season.
I love how the nfl changes OT rules over the bills game as if it had everything on the line but didnt do anything when the falcons didnt get the ball in the superbowl overtime
I'm surprised you didn't mention the horse collar tackle. Nice videos. Keep them coming!
Not talking about the Calvin Johnson catch is crazy.
I know it's minor, but saying "Dak throws the ball" immediately before the play by play saying it was Romo pops up is really funny to me.
The CFL had the two point conversion for a while too. Longer than the USFL
In my opinion the 28-3 superbowl is what started the conversation to change the OT rules
A bit biased but as a Pats fan, people hate seeing the pats win and james white cashing that "anticlimactic " TD to seal the deal pissed people off
4:25 winner of that game went to the AFCCG, not the Super bowl that year. That same rule DID change the outcome of a championship game a few years before, where the Patriots beat the Chiefs in 2018 when KC never saw the ball in OT. Chiefs proposed the rule change and the Bills were one of the teams who declined- all worth noting, I think.
Isaac is stepping his game up this year, and I'm noticing it
4:29 correction: they were going to the AFC Championship. This was the 2021-2022 season. The following week, the Bengals would beat the Chiefs 27 to 24 in overtime to go to the Super Bowl (which they then lost 23-20 to the Rams. Eli Apple)
Is the tush push still legal? Seems like it will be banned if not.
it's a shame thay we're gonna miss out on great vids like this when isaac goes pro :(
edelman did catch that though, obviously didn't hit the ground until after they had clear possession of the ball
What about this proposed rule? Allow the end zones to be from 10 to 20 yards deep. Keep the goal posts at the back of the end zone. This makes for more passing options in the red zone and adds more challenge to the kicking game (and allows for some additional seating $$ in new stadiums while not forcing old stadiums to change). Baseball stadiums are of different sizes/shapes and it works just fine. At times even causing some teams to adapt their style/players to their home field where they play half their games.
um actually the bills chiefs game wasn't the afc championship. the chiefs lost next week to the bengals who fucking dey
Probably a mis remember from. The previous championship game
Or difficult to remember a team that hasn't been able to win a super bowl yet
4:24 They went to the AFC Championship and lost to the Bengals
Man didn't even mention the Calvin Johnson rule
That bills game hurt me and I’m not even a bills fan
The Bills crying they lost because of the OT rule they didn't want changed when it screwed the Chiefs over is such delicious karma. Also interesting how the Eagles wanted a rule change under the guise of player safety while defending the tush push which is far more likely to cause injury is predictable.
You missed the first miracle at the meadowlands. Before that you couldn't kneel the ball, after that game you could.
You could always do that. Coaches at the time thought it was below of them to do it. Made a mockery of the game etc
@@Michael-sb8jf yes, you could kneel before the meadowlands, but the QB wouldn't be down until someone touched them, so the ball could still be stripped. After the meadowlands the QB was down when he kneeled
Thought the Saints-Rams no PI call was pretty obvious, as it made it possible to challenge PI (no-)calls, even if only for one season lol
Not having the Saints no call is crazy in my eyes
I mean, they technically changed the rule, but they sabotaged the reviews so they could change it back, so it's not like it actually changed anything longterm.
Them switching the overtime rules was the dumbest thing ever just because the bills couldn't play defense for like 20 seconds they went and bitched
love your commentary bro
Tackling the qb so now you can't touch the qb
As a pack fan, it wasn't a catch according to the rules. But it should have been.
Cowboys fans keep whining about being screwed without the self awarenees that the cowboys benefitted from the Lions being blatantly screwed over the week before.
dope video, very in depth
Lyle alzado rule. Not allowed to use someone's helmet as a weapon
People forget the Chiefs lost to that very same rule against the Patriots tho
Jesse James caught that ball!
Dak throws up a prayer hahaha im pretty sure that romo lol
low hits on the QB... aka..the kimo von olhaufen (sp?) rule... tore up carson palmer's knee in wild card round of steelers SB run
Bills cried so hard they got rules changed.
Its really rich that the Eagles of all teams pushed for a play to get banned and complained about it being exploited. They are the Filthadelphia Cheaters after all.
very interesting
Jesse James caught the ball
As a Packers fan, well, you know what rule…. But I did find an interview where A. Rodgers said that he thought it was a catch
USFL was 80s, not 90s. 1983-85.
Hotfixed this bug 😭
crack back block... aka.. the hines ward rule... broke bengals LB keith rivers' jaw
I mean the Chief are the new golden boys so anything will go their way in the future
Dak will be a raider or seahawk next year
The tuck rule was a football god's payback for daryl stingley. Sorry.
Bills fan here. Why
Bills were not in favor nor did they push for a rule change bro. get your facts correct
Um... a lot of misinfo here on the tuck rule.
-Regardless of the quality of the rule, the call was correct according to that rule. So it was not a "bad call" nor was it "allegedly" an incomplete pass; by nature of the rule, it was an incomplete pass. It may have been a bad rule, but the call was right.
-It was not the first time the Tuck Rule had been called even that season. The Pats had it called against them (i.e. overturning a forced fumble and recovery) in Week 2 of '01.
-The Pats abstained from the vote that abolished the tuck rule; they didn't vote for (or against) its abolishment.
I like your stuff, but jhst missed a lot here. Your penance is to make a video about the field goal Vinatieri made to tie the game... 45 yards through a driving wind and snow.
What is your favourite NFL team?
yooo bro i didn't know you were sick with it
Its time to up your microphone game isaac
8:30 USFL was mid-'80s
Also the AFL had the 2-point conversion throughout its existence
Bring back Stickum!
The new OT rules are ridiculous. Learn how to play defense.
NFL doesn’t allow anything lmao I think eventually they will become the mlb
3:42 Super Bowl XLI had a better final 2 minutes
*Tony romo LMAOOOOO
The Kansas Plan is the most fair way to end an overtime.
10th
go back to no face cam