I like this short and concise style you use for vids and I'm also relieved (in a sad way) that I'm not the only one with these horrible teammates in plat/emerald, I'm currently stuck here and the horrible quality of games has made me take a much needed break from league.
yes you do get horrbel team mates but if your mmr is good you should be abel to climb once you start losing more than you win I would stop palying rank and wait for the new season or your going to ruin your mmr.
I managed to get to emerald 2 and then out of nowhere it felt like everyone on my team was trolling and lost streaked back to emerald 4. I was able to climb back this week to Emerald 2 but the amount of LP I would gain for a win would be 18-22. While losing 27-30 LP. I have almost a 60% WR lol. It's so annoying lmao
Happened to me too, I have got to emerald 3 like three times and always go down to emerald 4 instantly, I started to gain more PL for some reason tho, now it’s +25 -27, but when I got to this elo I was gaining roughly 19 PL per gain and I had 65% win rate, now it went down to 57%, too many trolls in emerald feels like gold sometimes
2:51 "they give you false hope and try to break you mentally." Yep, it feels like they use the same matchmaking for their other titles too. Some wins feel just as forced as some losses, and other matches you wonder why you had to sweat so much to scrape a win only to be sabotaged by a loss streak for engagement. They'll inflate your rank and then crash it to make you grind to go earn it back, essentially turning players into Sisyphus. It's actual torture.
Emerald is just the peak of arrogance paired with incompetence. The skill gap in micro and macro between players ist just bizarre. The most annoying thing about this is that you can’t actually play the game the “correct way”. You can’t split push as a toplaner in mid game with tp up being fed to infinity 10/0/6 vs 0/7/2 garen with ignite, because your team will force random arams, your jungle who is behind will randomly invade the enemy jungle into fog with no sight of enemies to compensate for his lack of cs and get caught. You have to navigate around their stupidity and exploit the weakest link on the enemy team to grief them more than your team is - this is the unspoken rule of climbing out of elo hells.
Have you been playing correctly from silver all the way through emerald though? Because you pretty much described the situation in every other elo, except in emerald fed people know better how to impact the game in my opinion, and mechanics are more on point. I started in silver1 this season and I am stuck in E3 right now and I feel that sometimes I do get games where it can actually be played more or less correctly, the enemy teams sometimes responds to the plays accordingly and my team as well, even though with some mistakes. It's kind of rare, but still happens waaaay more frequently than in the below elos. The climb to emerald was pretty easy for me personally as an ADC main because I was winning lane almost every time and if the enemy mid or top would get fed, they simply would make an extremely poor mid or even late game and start blaming their teammates while I was able to distribute the resources that I've won through an absolutely dominating mid game. It doesn't happen so much anymore because my enemies are starting to become way more aware of how to play when they're ahead, and I feel that I can't dominate laning phase as consistently as I could before, so I get an even early game most of the time. I feel weird of what you wrote because I have just climbed to emerald because I was able to exploit the incorrect way of playing of the other ones, so basically by playing really well these random arams, by exploiting the enemy jungler who randomly invades my teams jungle, basically doing what you said about climbing out of elo hells, and now I feel that it doesn't work so consistently because I feel like everyone does that in this elo and I feel like I need to do more than that in order to keep climbing, I just dont know what lul
When I'm climbing, I see it especially in Emerald because these plays are the things that hold be back from carrying. It's different because even one person who plays terrible is uncarryable. I don't get the slow inters, I get the 0/6 in 10 minutes inters.@@fih-l3x
The aaram is complete shit. I ping so many times when I split top or not that our team should play the opposite side of the map unless the enemy is committing to take all of mid. They don’t understand that the time it take to go from top to not is a significant difference between going through just mid to top or bot. The enemy just rotated so much slower if they have to
Okay but the part about your lp gains plummeting right around emerald 3 is so real, I went through the same even though I was at a steady climb. 100+ games later and it still hasn’t fixed itself even though I’m D3 now and I’m still playing in almost full emerald lobbies every game. Still +21 -27, it’s so frustrating to be punished by riot for playing their game and climbing to where u want to be fair and square. Don’t even get to actually really be in diamond even though I grinded there.
its because you lost too many games recently so you'll likely be facing emeralds of course that's how mmr works. but dont worry because Emerald 1 = Diamond 4 from last split, keep the grind up!
well if you are d3 and your mmr is still lower then you get less lp than you lose, that makes totally sense. when i was dia1 i played mostly with master players around 100-200 lp so i got more points than i lost, the other way around would be totally unfair.
@@anaxagoras9812 Ok... So why when account is in plat with 68% WR, game tier is emerald 4 and still getting 23 XDDD U literally cant have bad mmr with 68% like fr xDDDD
@@kamilx7903 uh yeah you are right It should be the system thinking it's around the rank you should be and to change it you need to increase mmr because that account is likely not fresh and you probably ended gold rank in split 1. And platinum IV for example is gold IV from split 1 not emeral 4. Also plat I is the equivalent of gold I from split 1 for you to get an idea. I also dont like how hard the system makes you grind to climb. Now the real challenge is for you to maintain that winrate It's very hard because the system thinks you wont climb more.
I'm plat 1 98 Lp right now and through my climb I can say silver doesn't feel different then plat1 and my opponents are literally all emerald with 1-2 diamond. They're mechanics are more tight and wave management is better but they make the same mistakes as a silver.
@@Dillerus i was shocked by how similar it is. My friend is a challenger top laner and he even told me. "There isnt much diff between elos huh, enemies feel almost the same"
I think part of the mess is because of the introduction of Emerald in first place, pretty much the same problem happened when Iron and Master/Grandmaster where introduced. They changed the ELO distribution across all divisions within the result of making the whole ladder broken (like it wasn't already). As long as they will refuse to make MMR and leagues/tiers connected but insist in keeping MMR "hidden" there will be no solution to this and all of these shitty scenario will keep happening, with people with 80% WR stuck in a division they don't belong to. Of course they've no intention to fix this, because it makes grinding longer hence will keep people playing more. At a certain point people will get tired and drop LOL altogether and Riot will finally burn down in flames. Oh, by the way, even before hiding MMR there were scenarios where you suddenly get people way out of a match skill level (like people with 1100MMR getting in a 1500MMR lobby, for some reason), so I think that over time they just "perfected" the formula and made it less obvious by hiding everything under the shiny carpet of borders and victorious skins. Best!
@@whooiis7262he’s exaggerating but people have proven in other videos or posts who had positive win rates, once they got to emerald 3 or 2 their LP games switched despite not losing hardly any games, and their gains were so bad that they’d have to have a 60% wr with 100 more games to get to diamond. It’s definitely rigged against the player sometimes for some reasons
They made MMR hidden solely because League players wouldn't play ranked, and this was like in season 3 or 4. If LoL players will fork over 500 bucks for an Ahri skin, they will play ranked even if MMR was visible.
The random lp gains going downhill is why i stopped playing ranked on my main account after getting to emerald, for some ungodly reason it would constantly put me with 3-4 people who would go hardcore atrocious kda, 1/17 type of shit, they would never talk, never do objectives and it would feel like they were actual bots, this was when i was on a 60% win rate i would still lose more than I would win even tho i was the sole reason for winning my games. My "smurf" account NEVER had any of these issues and the difference in teammates is night and day, bizzare is an understatement. Also noticed that the more you carry games, the shittier teammates riot will assign to you, the more you feel like "an average" or even subppar as a teammate, the more good players will be on YOUR team. It's unrinocally rigged xd
PRAISE. I honestly believe the game knows who the "Carries" vs "afk players" are because if Porofessor can detect all these little things about your performance, what's stopping Riot from having a more complex version of this? It's unbearable to climb tbh.
@@Dillerus oh absolutely! there's literally NO WAY this is all random when it's exactly the same problem over and over again. But hey, sadly it's working, people are addicted and we're all just playing, either on a different account or grinding on our own. I guess the logic is (if they reach their goal too easy, they will stop playing the game, aka less retention, aka less likely to buy skins) :/
- Emerald is the old platinum - Platinum now is a mixture between the former high gold and the former low platinum - Emerald is the mixture between the former high platinum and the former low diamond - Diamond now is a mixture between former Diamond 2 and former low masters
actually there was a statistic shown in another yt video, which claims emerald elo is now from old Gold1 to low Dia players. That explains why it feels like hell there
I'm having that experience right now but iwth Diamond. On this particular account, I've dropped to Emerald and back to Diamond 3 times and I'm thinking about going on my other one. I really want to get this account up bc of the name though lol.
Great tips. The only one I would add is turn all all forms of chat. Chat is rarely a positive experience and only serves as a tool to cause distraction and frustration.
Iam masters 256 LP as i said the quality of ranked games and players keeps getting worse and worse every season ranked on season 5 up to 9 was peak now it's horrible experience
The match making is what gets me too. It is especially horrendous when you can only play 10 games or so a week in total let alone in a single session. Also, most of what you point out about players in emerald applies basically to gold through master from my experience. I've seen gold players perform well in master games and seen master players struggle in gold games. Honestly it all feels coin flippy to me between those tiers.
I agree with this, I don’t know what riot is doing with rank but they need to be called out for it to be honest. Too many times in my lobby do you see a range from silver to emerald like wtf. You’ll have a plat on one team and a other silver and then a gold. Like I get that rank isnt everything but mmr is but come on it shouldnt be that crazy
@@islixxn average gold/plat games are 35 minutes. It's silver and below, and diamond and above that they start to shorten. I get numerous 45-60 minute games. Dodging is a thing and sometimes takes upwards of 10 minutes to get a game going. After work, working out, making dinner for the family, I get lucky if I can play by 7pm. Put kids to bed around 9pm. Go to bed at 10 pm. I am again lucky if I can play 2-3 games in a night. I don't play every night either. Need to spend time with kids and wife. So I am lucky to play 2-3 nights a week. That is just how life is when you aren't a young kid with endless time on their hands. So yah, when you get 10 or so games a week to play, and match making screws you, it makes playing more than a little annoying.
Emerald reminds me of good old Diamond 5, not that they appeared outta nowhere anyway because Emerald were basically players that were from Plat 2-Diamond 3 and nothing changed.
After a realy rough time climbing up to Emerald 1 0lp i experienced the most horrendous teammates possible. It not only felt like, but the enemies ALWAYS had the better players on every lane and i was the only one doing kind of good. Im Emerald 2 34lp now and im about to give up
Same brother I made it to Emerald 1 20lp, and I just demoted to emerald 4. I win lane 9/10 games (literally, I checked my last 100 games and won lane 91 times) but I keep getting godawful teammates that just fight 4 v 5 with no objectives up and lose the game for nothing.
You thought you had it terrible, I was gaining only 15 lp per win, and losing -31 lp per lost. It was so mentally draining just wanted to stop playing all together.
Brother I swear its cursed. I got to emerald for the first time this split, I´ve put some time into learning the game and actually climbed quite easily, with a 70+% wr. It started well, I won 2 games in a row and got +54lp combined, by that time I was on a 8 game winning streak, and then everything went wrong. Im 6-14 on my last 20 games, im now getting 20lp and losing 18-19, and it feels impossible to win a game. Surely I make mistakes but I can tell im playing correct games, good cs, help with invades, most objetives, lane management, back timers, etc. But people here are insane, tilting 5 min into the game, one mistake and they give up, noone can play from behind, they die once and go all in and die 4 more times trying to get back in, crazy throws for no reason, egoplay everywhere. I know its on me to improve and have more impact on games, but it shocked me how low the quality of most games is. Edit: Haha I posted this before watching the video, and he is mentioning some of the same things, guess I wasn´t crazy, and btw is way worse that I thaught
I started a fun project to climb to master with braum support only. I am a mid main. I play on my "main" account which I've left in gold every season just to get the rewards (I would play 10 - 20 games, then stop). Now after starting this project, with a wr of 70% playing against high plat as a silver I was getting +38. After a 8 game winstreak I get promoted to gold, sure no biggie. But my LP gain with a winstreak for my promo game dropped FROM +36/38 to +17. Like what the actual fk. The more i win, the less LP I get. Meanwhile a negative wr 300 game plat player gets +30 after going on a huge losestreak. I don't understand man
@@NkenKenY under 50% of games won is a negative winrate. My lp gains got back to normal after the +17lp incident. I'm back to +38 now currently as Gold 3 playing against emerald players. My wr is still 70%
I'm doing a ranked climb series on my channel and was so confused why high emerald felt so much worse to play than low emerald. I got to emerald 2 with 70% wr and it's been a nightmare to get diamond.
Guys as you can see he's really good example of being consistent in "Not inting" even when he's farming terribly still he climbed to d4. Keep it up guys and dont be mad, you'll climb just play consistent . I'll drop a sub !
I swear I experience everything you said. After Emerald was 4, I quickly moved up to 3. My winrate was around 70 percent, now it's down to 55 percent. The game forces me to play with trolls. 0 macro games. Even the matches we won were barely there. Because they are constantly selling the game.
I find that Garen and Cho'Gath work very well for me. Garen allows me to not care about early and sometimes midgame, get 2-3 items, press E on a minion wave and just focus solely on macro. Where to be, opposite side of map for the objective when I have TP, grouped with my team if TP is down, applying pressure (trading their drake for a T2 + potentially T3 tower toplane). For some reason, Garen is just etched into my brain as THE macro champion. Some games are a little limit-testy but that's fine, learning experience. Learning whether or not T2 + T3 is a worthwhile trade for enemy's third drake is something you don't need to test a lot of times. And I just personally like Cho'Gath, once you learn how to hit the Q most of the time, the champ becomes very oppressive in my emerald lobbies. Also hail of blades is tons of fun and actually really nice all throughout the game, especially if you're going ap and even justifies building Titanic after Demonic
low master / d1 is for sure way worse of an elo to be in than emerald. i got through emerald on my smurf in like 30 games with a 70% wr. while d1/masters is full of challenger and gm smurfs people with inflated ego's otp's inters trolls griefers tilters say 1 wrong thing or make 1 wrong play and you lose a game because people refuse to play after that. even when youre 5k gold ahead or turbo winning you can still lose because of tilt
What you just said is what i've been going through for so long. I'm not sure if I'm just unlucky, but ym queues are just filled with these players every game and I watch Challenger players smurf and they don't run into teammates who just afk or go 0/8 in first 10 minutes. Idk what i'm doing wrong anymore and I might just take a break.
prolly my best advice to you is maining 1 lane instead of playing everything. dont care to much about your team and try to focus on what you could have done better. if i can go through emerald in 2 days with 70% wr 30 games then you should be able to do the same@@Dillerus
Idk, when I'm without playing League for a time, I magically morph into a bronze player and my macro suffers a lot, so usually when I will start playing again to try climbing, I play on alt accounts until my gameplay skills improve to what they were before my last League hiatus. When that happens I go play on my main account. That usually works for me. For exemple, I played around 50 to 100 games on my alt accounts training, then I felt ready to play on my main account, and with only 15 games I went from unranked to emerald and then got diamond 4. I got 85% winrate with my main champion after finally being confident in my gameplay again. If you train in the same account your trying to climb, I feel like that makes things harder.
Man i jave been saying this for months. I peaked Diamond 1 finished D4 last split. Finished my provi at Emerald 3 and I already noticed from playing a few game that emerald is the new platinum elo hell.
The worst part about it is giving people high ego boost. Some people go and say oh this guy does not deserve to win so I will throw the game. People who thought they were good in gold now think they are actual LPL players and can decide who wins and doesn't.
b2 to e4 in just over a month and once i hit e4 im gaining 16 and losing 29 so the only way to climb is with a 75%+ winrate which is practically inachieveable. My 60% wr was apparently not enough for riot
There is not much difference because Silver is full with smurfs anyway. Silver is however worse since you will have actual silver teammates feeding a plat+ player on a hyper carry champion
It's really frustrating being stuck in Emerald and you very frequently peoples rank from last season is silver - They really did a disservice to people, but this game is god damn addictive! 🙂
I was climbing on new acc to gold so fast they started to put me as silver into games with gold and emeralds. DAMN that was experience. Haven't seen so many newbies even in bronze. And, no, they are mechanically accurate and have fast reaction. But then just to some basic mistake like walk into the bush to face check it while pushing along enemy jungle without ANY wards there, for example.
Same concept. It's happening again to me in Diamond. I'm winning 27-29 in D4, but right when I hit d3, I only win 21-23 in the same lobbies which is ridiculous@@sebastianbechpetersen858
this is the issue what I expirence atm - I gain 19-25 Lp per win and lose 31 when I lose game... Its trully frustating while still have over 50% winrate ...
I’m convinced riot makes it as hard as possible to get diamond because diamond is a rank a lot of people would be satisfied with so they try to make it as hard as possible to get out of emerald to keep you playing the game for as long as possible
I am OTP lillia jg main, and ive finally hit diamond IV this week istg lp gains are HELL my mmr was so dogshit it only fixed after i literally went on 13 game winstreak.
i think the new season cleared those problem i encountered the same problm in gold while climbing on a smurf from iron to emerald but those diseapered once i got to plat, for me all the players that got elo inflated are back where they should be
watching all these emerald videos, I get the feeling emerald is literally just platinum and high gold from previous seasons, which makes sense, and is also reflected in some statistics ive seen
having 60% winrate over 230 games and cant get out of emerald. idk why this rank even exist in the first place. imo there was no reason to make an extra rank between plat and dia...
Challenger player struggling in emerald - I have no hope climbing out of emerald. Realizing some games are so far out of my skill level as a jungler that getting a positive LP gain out of 20 games is near impossible
Troll picks is so real I had to play with a pyke mid who did horrible, like pyke mid should be disabled if youre name isnt davemon. I still am climbing through emerald even if its slow though... its so irritating
I really just want to get gold. been playing for like 10 years and still haven't gotten it.. Im good at the game too but elo hell and HIGH mmr is holding me back.
As someone that peaked D3 20 something lp in like s7 playing mainly adc, it was digusting seeing people be so bad at the game when it's really easy. Toplaners die every 5 mins and give both tier 1 and 2 towers within 10-12 mins and already be 2 - 3 levels above all of us with an item advantage and you as the adc is forced to make a choice of either farm till late game or make a play to win your lane so you can actually carry. It also doesn't help when you're laning with a supposedly aggressive support like thresh and blitz that NEVER punishes the enemy botlaner when they're taking cs or poking us. The midlaners are almost always afk farm fest while the junglers just gets diffed by enemy jungler everytime even when you try to help them. Seeing that it still exists in 2024 when it was already a problem back in 2017 makes me glad I stopped grinding league because the matchmaking was just literally unfair.
Also, people that trash talk those that say "GG game is lost" in the first 10 to 15 mins need to understand that diamond players (even emeralds in this case) DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WHEN BEHIND. They just do not understand the decision making on how to actually comeback from a losing game. They keep forcing fights that are unfavorable to them and just keep making the enemy snowball harder. I've played league for the first time in a few years since I stopped and queue'd a normal game where I matched with emeralds and even diamonds and since I've grinded the game so much (started s5, stopped playing s10) my mechanics and decision making were still better than those players emerald 1 and above. The moment they lost lane, they just could not do anything anymore since as I have said, they DO NOT KNOW HOW TO PLAY FROM A GOLD DEFICIT. Sry for the rant lmao, just frustrating to see nothing changed in the 2 years I have stopped playing and even made league worse than it already is.
Emerald is the new plat where the only thing holding players back from being decent at the game is their mental health. Literally every game someone is crying to FF or intentionally feeding/trolling/afking when even one thing goes wrong or you do something they don't like.
This season part 2 wa horrible, while i always was plat without even trying every year, when they released emerald i thought it would make sense that i try to climb to emerald. Yet i got inted rlly bad and while i had 50% wr i did +15 -30 lp. Even when i had multiple cases afk in the same day i would still lose 20 lp with loss prevented, i tryharded really much and solo carried a lot of games, and now i am diamond 4 for the end of the year. If you try hard enough you can do it guys !
5:15 EXACTLY, COUNTLESS times, no macro sens I'm no pro, at all, but I do know that much, I'm not good enough to 1v9, but with decent teammates, no need for pros, we can play the game and even if we don't win, we can play it tight and rewarding for the good gaming. But when you have a troll pick support, when they wonder in their jg alone before obj time, or when they simply don't show up in the game at all, it's frustrating, the idea of rank solo queue makes no sens at all for me from the start, it's a rank affected by 9 other players, not just one more, it's not 1v1 where all my decisions are weighted against all his/her decisions, it's a shared rank across multiple games of multiple different teammates and enemies. If only it was 1v1, I would gladly accept my rank as my own, it's everything I do against everything they do. But 5v5 games, that rank means nothing if not the level of insanity your brain have endured. This game is the greatest and the worst at the exact same time, ALWAYS.
i was plat 3 around a week ago and i am diamond 4 now i went rough emerald in about 3 days i have around a 85% winrate on rek sai in 32 games or so and a round a 70% winrate over all this season with around 35 games i find its easiest to have a plan and play around it every game for example i will start red 3 camp gank lane on red side pref botlane but top or mid woks i focus drags and it worked for me im not sure if this applys to any other roles.
also i was gaining like 18 and losing 29 i think its becuase of how fast i was climbing so i got diamond with a 8 game winstreak now im gainign around 25 in diamond and havent lost yet ive only played 2 games so im 50 lp diamond 4
I haven’t touched league like in 9 months. When i came back and saw that there was this rank called emerald I knew it was gonna be some cancerous shit, and it was! The amount of flame that i saw here was worst than when i played in Diamond 1
I don’t know how it is in NA but in EUW some emerald players have really good mechanics but absolutely no macro whatsoever. So laning phase is about as hard as in high Diamond but then you have to pray to god that your team doesn’t just randomly int High diamond games are easy, you win lane and then you can usually count on your team to actually play the game. People don’t randomly go 2/18 anymore
I came back from 7 year break, I have 75% win rate as top laner, I got placed in iron4 (my old bronze 5 account that I just played placements every season to get placed lwoer and lower), I lose more lp than I gain with 75% win rate, I made new account and now I get 30-40 lp and lose 15 in gold XD this system is legit dogshit (I gave up around 70 games on the account that started in iron it would take 2-3 times longer to climb on that compared to just making new one)
Hey cool video! Just subbed. Just some constructive criticism: I suggest you try to enunciate your words a little more since I think you end up slurring them and it gets hard to hear (left this video in the background and had to rewatch certain parts to get what you were saying). Taking a bit longer to enunciate would bring your already good content a long way. Hope this finds you well. Cheers!
Thank you! Mulitple people have brought this to my attention and I'm focusing on improving my articulation before anything! I always appreciate constructive criticism! Thanks for the sub again!
I am in this elo and is playing with Dia 3 players that knows so much more about wave management that I do, perhaps I should just stay in this elo and maybe lower it down to plat.
I was struggling more in emerald 3/2 in one account than d1/master in another one. Emerald elo is really bad and tilts you really hard. You need insane mental
@@DillerusI peaked Masters I consider myself a d1 player, I go on emerald 2 Smurf and first game my team fights each other in champ select and someone picks troll so I dodge, second game my support said “gank bot level 3 pls” and jg said “Muted.” and then went afk. I don’t actually have any real games
So the third game I went 18/2 on my main champ Qiyana, whilst 2 of my teammates were doing a contest of “who can run it down harder” you think I’m joking I can send a screenshot both of them combined has 40 deaths
I am so glad someone is having the same experiences as me. It's actually insane. Since you reached masters, you deserve the masters title!@@mineman-wo1hi
0:27 i always wonder why this happens to me as well, likey these guys have to be paid actors from riot, right? what are the odds of something like this happening in only your game?
if you are emerald plus riot said they nerf your lp gains and losses to be around low 20's (except I get +16 when I after a 4 game winstreak of +20) and after daimond the low to like 18-20 according to riot that is
Btw for those of you who still haven't figured out why you lose the LP gains its because riot is claiming back the extra LP it inflated you with, so say you have 4LP and lose you should have lost 28LP but instead you lose 4LP so you now owe 24LP which will be taken as credit from your wins down the line, it's a average system like an average speed camera.
I would give anything for at least 20 LP. Im currently gaining 11 - 15 LP per win. Usually carrying with insanely tankish Tahm Kench, winning lane every game. -33 for lose is usual.
I'm at a point now, once I hit emerald III, I just stop playing the game for the split. I'm simply tired of playing with the mental patients hard stuck in this range. Every game is win/lose by 20, someone who dies one or twice and then gives up, people that run it down, and more things that simply make playing ranked inconceivable. As a season 1 veteran, and someone who only plays ranked, there's no point in continuing to play the game after about 20 games each split.
Juz hit emerald 3 with 30 win then system suddenly queue bunch of feeder teammates to hold me back, although i think if u have the ability it wont stuck, but it quite frustrating riot trying to do this to hold u back for playing more in order to hit ur actual rank.
I forgot to subscribe, now I did. Question tho. I only play Chogath. You as a jungle, what would you expect from a chogath top laner. I can play all is different build styles btw
When I see a Cho Gath pick, I instantly think you’re going to go even in lane and honestly be farming all game in order to help the team later on. If I was your jungler, I would try 1-2 times ganking too, but it honestly depends on the match up. I would spend the majority of my time bot and mid lane because it’s hard to gank top if the enemy top also just wanting to farm all game, but you’ll be a good team player later. You really can’t ever lose top lane with Cho because it’s a great safe pick and easy to farm with even into like Sett.
literally every player experiences the same thing in emerald or previous platinum. Riot gatekeeps you from entering Diamond so those hardcore addicts play 1000 games in Platinum 1 (Emerald 1)
Sometimes I play normal games and I legit have better games with silvers and golds than with emeralds. Some of the emerald players are completely clueless about prio and rotations and it makes no sense to me. My theory is that a lot of bought and boosted accounts are emerald mmr ? Im not sure
hi, do u remember what ur lp gains/losses were immediately after reaching D4 ? just curious cause i heard it significantly improves after getting out of emerald.. ty
Yeah it did! I was winning +18 and -28 In Emerald, but once I hit Diamond it went to +25 to +20-22 after 3 losses and losing -29 and -30! I dunno know about significantly.
listening to this i think gold - emerald is just the same one big rank, currently being gold 1 on euw i do some mistakes u mentioned and bot inting every game with a autopilot top and i hit or miss jungler , mid is mid.
I like this short and concise style you use for vids and I'm also relieved (in a sad way) that I'm not the only one with these horrible teammates in plat/emerald, I'm currently stuck here and the horrible quality of games has made me take a much needed break from league.
Thank you! I spend a lot time revising what to say. I love that you can relate to my experiences!
Plat last season. Grinded for through entire plat and emerald elo. Now d4. Just play better cause enemy team also has shit players
yes you do get horrbel team mates but if your mmr is good you should be abel to climb once you start losing more than you win I would stop palying rank and wait for the new season or your going to ruin your mmr.
Great advice actually. MMR is key@@chonie-kids
@@Dillerusis chance to repair mmr? Or if you once lost mmr its done with this account?
"i personally find top laners not as mechanically gited as I am" bro got that emerald ego
It's usually the toplaners getting stomped lol
@@zerog1037 I mean yeah its a 1v1 so if one falls behind the other feasts.
I managed to get to emerald 2 and then out of nowhere it felt like everyone on my team was trolling and lost streaked back to emerald 4. I was able to climb back this week to Emerald 2 but the amount of LP I would gain for a win would be 18-22. While losing 27-30 LP. I have almost a 60% WR lol. It's so annoying lmao
I swear it's rigged
Happened to me too, I have got to emerald 3 like three times and always go down to emerald 4 instantly, I started to gain more PL for some reason tho, now it’s +25 -27, but when I got to this elo I was gaining roughly 19 PL per gain and I had 65% win rate, now it went down to 57%, too many trolls in emerald feels like gold sometimes
same im literally in the same situation rn@@danielfernandezA24
did this but 5 or 6 times, as soon as i hit emerald 1 i get the most animals ever and drop back to 3 or 4
@@squealer8340 it’s like that in Diamond too. It’s so rough lol
2:51 "they give you false hope and try to break you mentally." Yep, it feels like they use the same matchmaking for their other titles too. Some wins feel just as forced as some losses, and other matches you wonder why you had to sweat so much to scrape a win only to be sabotaged by a loss streak for engagement.
They'll inflate your rank and then crash it to make you grind to go earn it back, essentially turning players into Sisyphus. It's actual torture.
It's like an addition dude, but I can't stop. 99% of Gamblers quit before they win big! Haha
How to "survive": dont watch this guy and go follow broken by concept. This guy is clearly delusional
Emerald is just the peak of arrogance paired with incompetence. The skill gap in micro and macro between players ist just bizarre.
The most annoying thing about this is that you can’t actually play the game the “correct way”. You can’t split push as a toplaner in mid game with tp up being fed to infinity 10/0/6 vs 0/7/2 garen with ignite, because your team will force random arams, your jungle who is behind will randomly invade the enemy jungle into fog with no sight of enemies to compensate for his lack of cs and get caught. You have to navigate around their stupidity and exploit the weakest link on the enemy team to grief them more than your team is - this is the unspoken rule of climbing out of elo hells.
100% True! I have to downgrade my playstyle to account for my teammates. I'll be making a video about this in the future!
Have you been playing correctly from silver all the way through emerald though? Because you pretty much described the situation in every other elo, except in emerald fed people know better how to impact the game in my opinion, and mechanics are more on point. I started in silver1 this season and I am stuck in E3 right now and I feel that sometimes I do get games where it can actually be played more or less correctly, the enemy teams sometimes responds to the plays accordingly and my team as well, even though with some mistakes. It's kind of rare, but still happens waaaay more frequently than in the below elos. The climb to emerald was pretty easy for me personally as an ADC main because I was winning lane almost every time and if the enemy mid or top would get fed, they simply would make an extremely poor mid or even late game and start blaming their teammates while I was able to distribute the resources that I've won through an absolutely dominating mid game. It doesn't happen so much anymore because my enemies are starting to become way more aware of how to play when they're ahead, and I feel that I can't dominate laning phase as consistently as I could before, so I get an even early game most of the time.
I feel weird of what you wrote because I have just climbed to emerald because I was able to exploit the incorrect way of playing of the other ones, so basically by playing really well these random arams, by exploiting the enemy jungler who randomly invades my teams jungle, basically doing what you said about climbing out of elo hells, and now I feel that it doesn't work so consistently because I feel like everyone does that in this elo and I feel like I need to do more than that in order to keep climbing, I just dont know what lul
When I'm climbing, I see it especially in Emerald because these plays are the things that hold be back from carrying. It's different because even one person who plays terrible is uncarryable. I don't get the slow inters, I get the 0/6 in 10 minutes inters.@@fih-l3x
The aaram is complete shit. I ping so many times when I split top or not that our team should play the opposite side of the map unless the enemy is committing to take all of mid. They don’t understand that the time it take to go from top to not is a significant difference between going through just mid to top or bot. The enemy just rotated so much slower if they have to
Lmfao bro described himself in the first couple minutes there. Art imitates life or life imitates art haha
Okay but the part about your lp gains plummeting right around emerald 3 is so real, I went through the same even though I was at a steady climb. 100+ games later and it still hasn’t fixed itself even though I’m D3 now and I’m still playing in almost full emerald lobbies every game. Still +21 -27, it’s so frustrating to be punished by riot for playing their game and climbing to where u want to be fair and square. Don’t even get to actually really be in diamond even though I grinded there.
It really isn’t fair man.
its because you lost too many games recently so you'll likely be facing emeralds of course that's how mmr works. but dont worry because Emerald 1 = Diamond 4 from last split, keep the grind up!
well if you are d3 and your mmr is still lower then you get less lp than you lose, that makes totally sense. when i was dia1 i played mostly with master players around 100-200 lp so i got more points than i lost, the other way around would be totally unfair.
@@anaxagoras9812 Ok... So why when account is in plat with 68% WR, game tier is emerald 4 and still getting 23 XDDD U literally cant have bad mmr with 68% like fr xDDDD
@@kamilx7903 uh yeah you are right It should be the system thinking it's around the rank you should be and to change it you need to increase mmr because that account is likely not fresh and you probably ended gold rank in split 1. And platinum IV for example is gold IV from split 1 not emeral 4. Also plat I is the equivalent of gold I from split 1 for you to get an idea. I also dont like how hard the system makes you grind to climb. Now the real challenge is for you to maintain that winrate It's very hard because the system thinks you wont climb more.
the mentality of players that play scaling champs is probably like: ''yeah but imagine if I'm already winning early'' xD
I'm plat 1 98 Lp right now and through my climb I can say silver doesn't feel different then plat1 and my opponents are literally all emerald with 1-2 diamond. They're mechanics are more tight and wave management is better but they make the same mistakes as a silver.
This is exactly how it is
@@Dillerus i was shocked by how similar it is. My friend is a challenger top laner and he even told me. "There isnt much diff between elos huh, enemies feel almost the same"
so the highest rank u have us plat? and dimond players r worse then u? why ru plat?
@@MrEccentricities I'm emerald 2 now 66% wr
I’m experiencing this right now, 100 games so far, can’t leave E2 it’s like every game is a Jungle or Top gap despite how good I play Mid.
For me, It's usually bot or top gap and an underperforming jungler, so I've been grinding adc so they don't feed.
I think part of the mess is because of the introduction of Emerald in first place, pretty much the same problem happened when Iron and Master/Grandmaster where introduced.
They changed the ELO distribution across all divisions within the result of making the whole ladder broken (like it wasn't already). As long as they will refuse to make MMR and leagues/tiers connected but insist in keeping MMR "hidden" there will be no solution to this and all of these shitty scenario will keep happening, with people with 80% WR stuck in a division they don't belong to.
Of course they've no intention to fix this, because it makes grinding longer hence will keep people playing more. At a certain point people will get tired and drop LOL altogether and Riot will finally burn down in flames.
Oh, by the way, even before hiding MMR there were scenarios where you suddenly get people way out of a match skill level (like people with 1100MMR getting in a 1500MMR lobby, for some reason), so I think that over time they just "perfected" the formula and made it less obvious by hiding everything under the shiny carpet of borders and victorious skins.
Best!
Nah this is coping bro. No matter how broken the ladder is aint no way you aint climbing with 80% wr
@@whooiis7262 pretty sure he was exaggerating by the 80% but like i literally lose about 75% more lp than i win.
@@whooiis7262he’s exaggerating but people have proven in other videos or posts who had positive win rates, once they got to emerald 3 or 2 their LP games switched despite not losing hardly any games, and their gains were so bad that they’d have to have a 60% wr with 100 more games to get to diamond. It’s definitely rigged against the player sometimes for some reasons
@@bbh3617 well I will know this weekend. I'm at emerald 3 outta placement with 66 we, will post my results here soon as I click to eè
They made MMR hidden solely because League players wouldn't play ranked, and this was like in season 3 or 4. If LoL players will fork over 500 bucks for an Ahri skin, they will play ranked even if MMR was visible.
everytime when im one game away from emerald 3 i always lose due to trolls it has happened to me 4 times in a row
it happened to me too. It's so rigged.
@@Dillerus Its is what it is
The random lp gains going downhill is why i stopped playing ranked on my main account after getting to emerald, for some ungodly reason it would constantly put me with 3-4 people who would go hardcore atrocious kda, 1/17 type of shit, they would never talk, never do objectives and it would feel like they were actual bots, this was when i was on a 60% win rate i would still lose more than I would win even tho i was the sole reason for winning my games. My "smurf" account NEVER had any of these issues and the difference in teammates is night and day, bizzare is an understatement. Also noticed that the more you carry games, the shittier teammates riot will assign to you, the more you feel like "an average" or even subppar as a teammate, the more good players will be on YOUR team. It's unrinocally rigged xd
PRAISE. I honestly believe the game knows who the "Carries" vs "afk players" are because if Porofessor can detect all these little things about your performance, what's stopping Riot from having a more complex version of this? It's unbearable to climb tbh.
@@Dillerus oh absolutely! there's literally NO WAY this is all random when it's exactly the same problem over and over again. But hey, sadly it's working, people are addicted and we're all just playing, either on a different account or grinding on our own. I guess the logic is (if they reach their goal too easy, they will stop playing the game, aka less retention, aka less likely to buy skins) :/
- Emerald is the old platinum
- Platinum now is a mixture between the former high gold and the former low platinum
- Emerald is the mixture between the former high platinum and the former low diamond
- Diamond now is a mixture between former Diamond 2 and former low masters
actually there was a statistic shown in another yt video, which claims emerald elo is now from old Gold1 to low Dia players. That explains why it feels like hell there
I've gone from gold to emerald three, three times. Always sends me bad teams soon as I got to emerald. Even with a team of three.
I'm having that experience right now but iwth Diamond. On this particular account, I've dropped to Emerald and back to Diamond 3 times and I'm thinking about going on my other one. I really want to get this account up bc of the name though lol.
Great tips. The only one I would add is turn all all forms of chat. Chat is rarely a positive experience and only serves as a tool to cause distraction and frustration.
Haha this is completely true. I like having it on to see what's going on, but realistically, turning this off solves lots of problems
Iam masters 256 LP as i said the quality of ranked games and players keeps getting worse and worse every season ranked on season 5 up to 9 was peak now it's horrible experience
I don’t know how people are unevolving
what about that prevents you from climbing? how do they get to masters then? luck?
Shit is so real, as soon as you get to emerald, lp gains get fucked and it’s gets worse when you get to emerald III
I fully agree, emerald elo is probably the worst mistake Riot has ever done when it comes to ranked queue.
I feel like it was a participation trophy to everyone in gold and plat. It is by far the worst ranked exp in the game imo.
The match making is what gets me too. It is especially horrendous when you can only play 10 games or so a week in total let alone in a single session. Also, most of what you point out about players in emerald applies basically to gold through master from my experience. I've seen gold players perform well in master games and seen master players struggle in gold games. Honestly it all feels coin flippy to me between those tiers.
I agree with this, I don’t know what riot is doing with rank but they need to be called out for it to be honest. Too many times in my lobby do you see a range from silver to emerald like wtf. You’ll have a plat on one team and a other silver and then a gold. Like I get that rank isnt everything but mmr is but come on it shouldnt be that crazy
Matches are 25 mins dog ur yapping if u can only play 3 hours a week
@@islixxn average gold/plat games are 35 minutes. It's silver and below, and diamond and above that they start to shorten. I get numerous 45-60 minute games. Dodging is a thing and sometimes takes upwards of 10 minutes to get a game going. After work, working out, making dinner for the family, I get lucky if I can play by 7pm. Put kids to bed around 9pm. Go to bed at 10 pm. I am again lucky if I can play 2-3 games in a night. I don't play every night either. Need to spend time with kids and wife. So I am lucky to play 2-3 nights a week. That is just how life is when you aren't a young kid with endless time on their hands. So yah, when you get 10 or so games a week to play, and match making screws you, it makes playing more than a little annoying.
@@islixxntfw can only play 2 hours a week
Emerald reminds me of good old Diamond 5, not that they appeared outta nowhere anyway because Emerald were basically players that were from Plat 2-Diamond 3 and nothing changed.
It's elo hell there.
After a realy rough time climbing up to Emerald 1 0lp i experienced the most horrendous teammates possible. It not only felt like, but the enemies ALWAYS had the better players on every lane and i was the only one doing kind of good. Im Emerald 2 34lp now and im about to give up
Same brother I made it to Emerald 1 20lp, and I just demoted to emerald 4. I win lane 9/10 games (literally, I checked my last 100 games and won lane 91 times) but I keep getting godawful teammates that just fight 4 v 5 with no objectives up and lose the game for nothing.
You thought you had it terrible, I was gaining only 15 lp per win, and losing -31 lp per lost. It was so mentally draining just wanted to stop playing all together.
Dang that's even worse than I could imagine. I send my condolences.
@@Dillerus Yup, I had a 60% winrate climbed all the way from silver to emerald 2, then riot was just like nope, you cant pass this line anymore.
I’m still working on talking slower. Let me know if this much better or I need to go even slower! Thank you!!!
Brother I swear its cursed. I got to emerald for the first time this split, I´ve put some time into learning the game and actually climbed quite easily, with a 70+% wr. It started well, I won 2 games in a row and got +54lp combined, by that time I was on a 8 game winning streak, and then everything went wrong. Im 6-14 on my last 20 games, im now getting 20lp and losing 18-19, and it feels impossible to win a game. Surely I make mistakes but I can tell im playing correct games, good cs, help with invades, most objetives, lane management, back timers, etc. But people here are insane, tilting 5 min into the game, one mistake and they give up, noone can play from behind, they die once and go all in and die 4 more times trying to get back in, crazy throws for no reason, egoplay everywhere. I know its on me to improve and have more impact on games, but it shocked me how low the quality of most games is.
Edit: Haha I posted this before watching the video, and he is mentioning some of the same things, guess I wasn´t crazy, and btw is way worse that I thaught
I started a fun project to climb to master with braum support only. I am a mid main. I play on my "main" account which I've left in gold every season just to get the rewards (I would play 10 - 20 games, then stop). Now after starting this project, with a wr of 70% playing against high plat as a silver I was getting +38. After a 8 game winstreak I get promoted to gold, sure no biggie. But my LP gain with a winstreak for my promo game dropped FROM +36/38 to +17. Like what the actual fk. The more i win, the less LP I get. Meanwhile a negative wr 300 game plat player gets +30 after going on a huge losestreak. I don't understand man
It’s so frustrating fr. I hope they fix it next split.
whats a negative wr :(?
@@NkenKenY under 50% of games won is a negative winrate. My lp gains got back to normal after the +17lp incident. I'm back to +38 now currently as Gold 3 playing against emerald players. My wr is still 70%
I'm doing a ranked climb series on my channel and was so confused why high emerald felt so much worse to play than low emerald. I got to emerald 2 with 70% wr and it's been a nightmare to get diamond.
Guys as you can see he's really good example of being consistent in "Not inting" even when he's farming terribly still he climbed to d4.
Keep it up guys and dont be mad, you'll climb just play consistent .
I'll drop a sub !
I litterally went all the way from emerald 1, 36 lp to emrald 4 0 lp... in 2 days
It's tough out here.
thats normal. high elo players are used to dropping 400 LP in a big loss streak dont take it serious
I went up from plat 1 to e2 in 2 days and back to e4 in one day.
55% winratio
+17 for a win
-28 for a lose
@@dareczeqjpg9118 Ayyy I’m in the same boat rn
1:44 that's not a coincidence dude, same shit here xD
I swear I experience everything you said. After Emerald was 4, I quickly moved up to 3. My winrate was around 70 percent, now it's down to 55 percent. The game forces me to play with trolls. 0 macro games. Even the matches we won were barely there. Because they are constantly selling the game.
its insane theres so many kda players in emerald. wanting to 1v2 while our base is under attack
I find that Garen and Cho'Gath work very well for me. Garen allows me to not care about early and sometimes midgame, get 2-3 items, press E on a minion wave and just focus solely on macro. Where to be, opposite side of map for the objective when I have TP, grouped with my team if TP is down, applying pressure (trading their drake for a T2 + potentially T3 tower toplane). For some reason, Garen is just etched into my brain as THE macro champion. Some games are a little limit-testy but that's fine, learning experience. Learning whether or not T2 + T3 is a worthwhile trade for enemy's third drake is something you don't need to test a lot of times.
And I just personally like Cho'Gath, once you learn how to hit the Q most of the time, the champ becomes very oppressive in my emerald lobbies. Also hail of blades is tons of fun and actually really nice all throughout the game, especially if you're going ap and even justifies building Titanic after Demonic
If it works it works. Abuse champions that work and climb!
low master / d1 is for sure way worse of an elo to be in than emerald. i got through emerald on my smurf in like 30 games with a 70% wr. while d1/masters is full of challenger and gm smurfs people with inflated ego's otp's inters trolls griefers tilters say 1 wrong thing or make 1 wrong play and you lose a game because people refuse to play after that. even when youre 5k gold ahead or turbo winning you can still lose because of tilt
What you just said is what i've been going through for so long. I'm not sure if I'm just unlucky, but ym queues are just filled with these players every game and I watch Challenger players smurf and they don't run into teammates who just afk or go 0/8 in first 10 minutes. Idk what i'm doing wrong anymore and I might just take a break.
prolly my best advice to you is maining 1 lane instead of playing everything. dont care to much about your team and try to focus on what you could have done better. if i can go through emerald in 2 days with 70% wr 30 games then you should be able to do the same@@Dillerus
Idk, when I'm without playing League for a time, I magically morph into a bronze player and my macro suffers a lot, so usually when I will start playing again to try climbing, I play on alt accounts until my gameplay skills improve to what they were before my last League hiatus. When that happens I go play on my main account. That usually works for me.
For exemple, I played around 50 to 100 games on my alt accounts training, then I felt ready to play on my main account, and with only 15 games I went from unranked to emerald and then got diamond 4.
I got 85% winrate with my main champion after finally being confident in my gameplay again.
If you train in the same account your trying to climb, I feel like that makes things harder.
I agree!
im so glad you said it i thought i was going crazy riot puts trolls in your team when you are on a winning streak !
Same thing here when I hit Emerald 3 with 65% WR. Used to win 27 to 35LP even with 160+ games played.
i am watching this while my midlaner is locking caitlyn in emerald 3. Banger.
That is tragic. I had a Zeri top in Diamond and she ran it down 0/8 :D
really good video frfr
Man i jave been saying this for months. I peaked Diamond 1 finished D4 last split. Finished my provi at Emerald 3 and I already noticed from playing a few game that emerald is the new platinum elo hell.
ty for finally putting a relatable video on youtube about the emerald experience i hope you continue to be the voice of the people
Thank you! I'm glad I'm not the only one.
The worst part about it is giving people high ego boost. Some people go and say oh this guy does not deserve to win so I will throw the game. People who thought they were good in gold now think they are actual LPL players and can decide who wins and doesn't.
wtf how have i just found this youtuber just now? this dudes amazing. subscribed, and i can't wait for the next video
Thank you man! I appreciate the kind words!
Instantly subscribed for this video, you're definitely underrated right now
You're too kind man. Thank you!
b2 to e4 in just over a month and once i hit e4 im gaining 16 and losing 29 so the only way to climb is with a 75%+ winrate which is practically inachieveable. My 60% wr was apparently not enough for riot
I'd rather be hardstuck in Emerald, than in Silver to be honest.
It's only slightly better, so you're not really missing out! I'll be making more videos dedicated for players Diamond and below!
I dont see a difference to be honest
There is not much difference because Silver is full with smurfs anyway.
Silver is however worse since you will have actual silver teammates feeding a plat+ player on a hyper carry champion
Emerald is just iron oxidation. That's why it is green
@@ishungchan LOL
Each one of your words describes exactly my experience, except that i'm in gold-plat.
Hopefully in the future, I can make something that's free and gives coaching for everything
It's really frustrating being stuck in Emerald and you very frequently peoples rank from last season is silver - They really did a disservice to people, but this game is god damn addictive! 🙂
Yeah. I hope next season will be better and they fix their LP and MMR problems tom ake it easier to climb.
I was climbing on new acc to gold so fast they started to put me as silver into games with gold and emeralds.
DAMN that was experience. Haven't seen so many newbies even in bronze.
And, no, they are mechanically accurate and have fast reaction. But then just to some basic mistake like walk into the bush to face check it while pushing along enemy jungle without ANY wards there, for example.
I also got to Emerald with 60% WR and now Im losing more LP then I gain. Did this problem fix for you when you reached Diamond?
When I reached Diamond, I stared gaining 22+ instead of +18, but I'ms till losing -28 which is negative. It's nonsense.
@@DillerusWooow. Discouraging to play ranked frl.
Did this also happen as SOON as u hit Emerald 4? I was on +26/+27 per game climbing through plat. Then I hit E4 and instantly go to +20/-30
@@sebastianbechpetersen858 Yes. This happened to me too.
Same concept. It's happening again to me in Diamond. I'm winning 27-29 in D4, but right when I hit d3, I only win 21-23 in the same lobbies which is ridiculous@@sebastianbechpetersen858
this is the issue what I expirence atm - I gain 19-25 Lp per win and lose 31 when I lose game... Its trully frustating while still have over 50% winrate ...
It's tough man. This season, they decreased overall LP gains too.
I’m convinced riot makes it as hard as possible to get diamond because diamond is a rank a lot of people would be satisfied with so they try to make it as hard as possible to get out of emerald to keep you playing the game for as long as possible
I am OTP lillia jg main, and ive finally hit diamond IV this week istg lp gains are HELL my mmr was so dogshit it only fixed after i literally went on 13 game winstreak.
i think the new season cleared those problem i encountered the same problm in gold while climbing on a smurf from iron to emerald but those diseapered once i got to plat, for me all the players that got elo inflated are back where they should be
watching all these emerald videos, I get the feeling emerald is literally just platinum and high gold from previous seasons, which makes sense, and is also reflected in some statistics ive seen
This is exactly why Emerald and Diamond 4 have been 😭
I would say it even goes to D4 now and it’s so rough
Back in s10 i went on a 30 game winstreak went from iron to gold after just picking up the game that year
Keep up the good content brother. I loved this video, after having a rough day yesterday this made me feel better ❤️
having 60% winrate over 230 games and cant get out of emerald. idk why this rank even exist in the first place. imo there was no reason to make an extra rank between plat and dia...
you sound like the team8s that i dream to have
HAHAH NO. We can't even get the bare minimum anymore 😭
Challenger player struggling in emerald - I have no hope climbing out of emerald. Realizing some games are so far out of my skill level as a jungler that getting a positive LP gain out of 20 games is near impossible
Your right it’s a mental game. Team usually with the strongest mentality wins the game.
Exactly. You have to out last the other opponent and they'll just make mistakes.
This is why I quit when I get to plat, my mental cannot handle all of the bs from the random teammates
literally exact same thing happened to me but i cannot break through to diamond to save my life ):
It was nearly impossible for me, but you do have to hard carry and have some luck with teammates.
Troll picks is so real I had to play with a pyke mid who did horrible, like pyke mid should be disabled if youre name isnt davemon. I still am climbing through emerald even if its slow though... its so irritating
I really just want to get gold. been playing for like 10 years and still haven't gotten it.. Im good at the game too but elo hell and HIGH mmr is holding me back.
I believe in you!!! Hopefully I can teach something you don't already know!
got into diamond then saw this in my tabs and watched 😂
As someone that peaked D3 20 something lp in like s7 playing mainly adc, it was digusting seeing people be so bad at the game when it's really easy. Toplaners die every 5 mins and give both tier 1 and 2 towers within 10-12 mins and already be 2 - 3 levels above all of us with an item advantage and you as the adc is forced to make a choice of either farm till late game or make a play to win your lane so you can actually carry. It also doesn't help when you're laning with a supposedly aggressive support like thresh and blitz that NEVER punishes the enemy botlaner when they're taking cs or poking us. The midlaners are almost always afk farm fest while the junglers just gets diffed by enemy jungler everytime even when you try to help them. Seeing that it still exists in 2024 when it was already a problem back in 2017 makes me glad I stopped grinding league because the matchmaking was just literally unfair.
Also, people that trash talk those that say "GG game is lost" in the first 10 to 15 mins need to understand that diamond players (even emeralds in this case) DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WHEN BEHIND. They just do not understand the decision making on how to actually comeback from a losing game. They keep forcing fights that are unfavorable to them and just keep making the enemy snowball harder. I've played league for the first time in a few years since I stopped and queue'd a normal game where I matched with emeralds and even diamonds and since I've grinded the game so much (started s5, stopped playing s10) my mechanics and decision making were still better than those players emerald 1 and above. The moment they lost lane, they just could not do anything anymore since as I have said, they DO NOT KNOW HOW TO PLAY FROM A GOLD DEFICIT.
Sry for the rant lmao, just frustrating to see nothing changed in the 2 years I have stopped playing and even made league worse than it already is.
Emerald is the new plat where the only thing holding players back from being decent at the game is their mental health. Literally every game someone is crying to FF or intentionally feeding/trolling/afking when even one thing goes wrong or you do something they don't like.
This season part 2 wa horrible, while i always was plat without even trying every year, when they released emerald i thought it would make sense that i try to climb to emerald. Yet i got inted rlly bad and while i had 50% wr i did +15 -30 lp. Even when i had multiple cases afk in the same day i would still lose 20 lp with loss prevented, i tryharded really much and solo carried a lot of games, and now i am diamond 4 for the end of the year. If you try hard enough you can do it guys !
Omg, i;m so glad that you made this video, i agree with everything you said. all The emerald elos should see this
5:15 EXACTLY, COUNTLESS times, no macro sens
I'm no pro, at all, but I do know that much, I'm not good enough to 1v9, but with decent teammates, no need for pros, we can play the game and even if we don't win, we can play it tight and rewarding for the good gaming. But when you have a troll pick support, when they wonder in their jg alone before obj time, or when they simply don't show up in the game at all, it's frustrating, the idea of rank solo queue makes no sens at all for me from the start, it's a rank affected by 9 other players, not just one more, it's not 1v1 where all my decisions are weighted against all his/her decisions, it's a shared rank across multiple games of multiple different teammates and enemies. If only it was 1v1, I would gladly accept my rank as my own, it's everything I do against everything they do. But 5v5 games, that rank means nothing if not the level of insanity your brain have endured. This game is the greatest and the worst at the exact same time, ALWAYS.
i was plat 3 around a week ago and i am diamond 4 now i went rough emerald in about 3 days i have around a 85% winrate on rek sai in 32 games or so and a round a 70% winrate over all this season with around 35 games i find its easiest to have a plan and play around it every game for example i will start red 3 camp gank lane on red side pref botlane but top or mid woks i focus drags and it worked for me im not sure if this applys to any other roles.
also i was gaining like 18 and losing 29 i think its becuase of how fast i was climbing so i got diamond with a 8 game winstreak now im gainign around 25 in diamond and havent lost yet ive only played 2 games so im 50 lp diamond 4
@@turtle9724once you got into diamond your lp gains reset? because at e4 rn i have basically the same gains, +16/17 and -28/29
I haven’t touched league like in 9 months. When i came back and saw that there was this rank called emerald I knew it was gonna be some cancerous shit, and it was! The amount of flame that i saw here was worst than when i played in Diamond 1
100% Facts
I played adc once on emerald i hard won my lane and my whole team was like 0/10 each and I’m like what the hell im I supposed to do
You really can't do anything honestly at that point. It's frustrating.
well not every game is winnable simple as that... at the same time there are games where you get carried hard, you are just 20% of your team.
i Love this video, just so calming to hear ur voice
Thanks man! I'm glad my voice isn't too annoying haha!
Geh much?
I was emerald 1 81lp and then I got into a 10 streak loose streak… I still got 5 days to get to diamond though o-o
Good Luck!
I don’t know how it is in NA but in EUW some emerald players have really good mechanics but absolutely no macro whatsoever. So laning phase is about as hard as in high Diamond but then you have to pray to god that your team doesn’t just randomly int
High diamond games are easy, you win lane and then you can usually count on your team to actually play the game. People don’t randomly go 2/18 anymore
Yeah, Emerald is the true ELO hell. In Gold and Plat people at least play, in Emerald they die 2 times and either go AFK or just run it down
best advice i ever heard keep it up man
I really appreciate that man!
I came back from 7 year break, I have 75% win rate as top laner, I got placed in iron4 (my old bronze 5 account that I just played placements every season to get placed lwoer and lower), I lose more lp than I gain with 75% win rate, I made new account and now I get 30-40 lp and lose 15 in gold XD this system is legit dogshit (I gave up around 70 games on the account that started in iron it would take 2-3 times longer to climb on that compared to just making new one)
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Hey cool video! Just subbed. Just some constructive criticism: I suggest you try to enunciate your words a little more since I think you end up slurring them and it gets hard to hear (left this video in the background and had to rewatch certain parts to get what you were saying). Taking a bit longer to enunciate would bring your already good content a long way. Hope this finds you well. Cheers!
Thank you! Mulitple people have brought this to my attention and I'm focusing on improving my articulation before anything! I always appreciate constructive criticism! Thanks for the sub again!
S1 98 lp my team had 2 bronze and they had a plat and golds! Thank rito
I am in this elo and is playing with Dia 3 players that knows so much more about wave management that I do, perhaps I should just stay in this elo and maybe lower it down to plat.
I think it would be good practice becauase you'll learn against higher rated players
One of the scariest things the matchmaking system is able to do is determine that you want to climb, and use this to milk engagement out of you.
those in comments thinking they lost 2 divisions... i went from emerald 2 to gold 1
I am sorry for your loss
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I LOVE YOU. I will be streaming once I move into my apartment!
kinda sus mang lol jk goodluck though!@@Dillerus
I was struggling more in emerald 3/2 in one account than d1/master in another one. Emerald elo is really bad and tilts you really hard. You need insane mental
100% True. I can easily play against d1/Master players but Emerald players are something else...
@@DillerusI peaked Masters I consider myself a d1 player, I go on emerald 2 Smurf and first game my team fights each other in champ select and someone picks troll so I dodge, second game my support said “gank bot level 3 pls” and jg said “Muted.” and then went afk. I don’t actually have any real games
So the third game I went 18/2 on my main champ Qiyana, whilst 2 of my teammates were doing a contest of “who can run it down harder” you think I’m joking I can send a screenshot both of them combined has 40 deaths
I get 1 good game in emerald out of 4 no matter how hard you try.
I am so glad someone is having the same experiences as me. It's actually insane. Since you reached masters, you deserve the masters title!@@mineman-wo1hi
0:27 i always wonder why this happens to me as well, likey these guys have to be paid actors from riot, right? what are the odds of something like this happening in only your game?
100% something to do with their algorithm bc if this was just chance, this would be crazy
if you are emerald plus riot said they nerf your lp gains and losses to be around low 20's (except I get +16 when I after a 4 game winstreak of +20) and after daimond the low to like 18-20 according to riot that is
Btw for those of you who still haven't figured out why you lose the LP gains its because riot is claiming back the extra LP it inflated you with, so say you have 4LP and lose you should have lost 28LP but instead you lose 4LP so you now owe 24LP which will be taken as credit from your wins down the line, it's a average system like an average speed camera.
I just reached Diamond for the first time whit my dogshit mmr. ... Bro i get -29 and +18 XD
I would give anything for at least 20 LP. Im currently gaining 11 - 15 LP per win. Usually carrying with insanely tankish Tahm Kench, winning lane every game. -33 for lose is usual.
That's actually insane. Why is your LP gains that low?!?
I'm at a point now, once I hit emerald III, I just stop playing the game for the split. I'm simply tired of playing with the mental patients hard stuck in this range. Every game is win/lose by 20, someone who dies one or twice and then gives up, people that run it down, and more things that simply make playing ranked inconceivable. As a season 1 veteran, and someone who only plays ranked, there's no point in continuing to play the game after about 20 games each split.
Juz hit emerald 3 with 30 win then system suddenly queue bunch of feeder teammates to hold me back, although i think if u have the ability it wont stuck, but it quite frustrating riot trying to do this to hold u back for playing more in order to hit ur actual rank.
last season i climbed to diamond 4 now this split im stuck emerald 3 seems like the skill difference and the game knowledge isnt there in matchmaking
It's annoying honestly.
I forgot to subscribe, now I did.
Question tho. I only play Chogath. You as a jungle, what would you expect from a chogath top laner. I can play all is different build styles btw
When I see a Cho Gath pick, I instantly think you’re going to go even in lane and honestly be farming all game in order to help the team later on. If I was your jungler, I would try 1-2 times ganking too, but it honestly depends on the match up. I would spend the majority of my time bot and mid lane because it’s hard to gank top if the enemy top also just wanting to farm all game, but you’ll be a good team player later. You really can’t ever lose top lane with Cho because it’s a great safe pick and easy to farm with even into like Sett.
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@@Dillerus thank you for your answer! The more I keep asking around, the more I realise I have to adapt to this higher elo I got myself into.
literally every player experiences the same thing in emerald or previous platinum. Riot gatekeeps you from entering Diamond so those hardcore addicts play 1000 games in Platinum 1 (Emerald 1)
yupp
Sometimes I play normal games and I legit have better games with silvers and golds than with emeralds. Some of the emerald players are completely clueless about prio and rotations and it makes no sense to me. My theory is that a lot of bought and boosted accounts are emerald mmr ? Im not sure
Lots of boosted people and Riot rewards the worse performing players and it's ridiculous.
hi, do u remember what ur lp gains/losses were immediately after reaching D4 ? just curious cause i heard it significantly improves after getting out of emerald.. ty
Yeah it did! I was winning +18 and -28 In Emerald, but once I hit Diamond it went to +25 to +20-22 after 3 losses and losing -29 and -30! I dunno know about significantly.
listening to this i think gold - emerald is just the same one big rank, currently being gold 1 on euw i do some mistakes u mentioned and bot inting every game with a autopilot top and i hit or miss jungler , mid is mid.