Are Miracles Possible According to Science? w/ Prof. Karin Öberg (Aquinas 101)

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    Miracles are at the heart of the Christian faith. Miracles are also often at the heart of disputes between science and religion.
    Are Miracles Possible According to Science? (Aquinas 101) - Prof. Karin Öberg
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  • @rbosque
    @rbosque 2 роки тому +106

    About 9 years ago I visited a friend who had become blind. I came on behalf of my parish and was there to bring her holy communion. We said an Our Father and at the conclusion of the prayer she regained her eyesight. Not only that, she had perfect 20/20 vision. She never had 20/20 vision. Her Ophthalmologist examined her and was dumbfounded how her optic nerve was healed. I still have the medical documentation. She has since passed away but of course I will never forget that day.

    • @maskofshy
      @maskofshy 2 роки тому +4

      Man, thats a beautiful memory. What a blessed soul.
      However
      i can imagine in some years The Next Theory for such similar events Will be that ... humans have telekinesis-like healing abilities. And soo "it wasnt a miracle" Its just natural. :/

    • @russellmiles2861
      @russellmiles2861 2 роки тому +3

      About 20 years my wife was diagnosed with cancer. She died.

    • @titounoundici7920
      @titounoundici7920 2 роки тому +1

      @@russellmiles2861 of course: if she didn't have enough faith for a miracle, why didn't you pray for her healing?

    • @russellmiles2861
      @russellmiles2861 2 роки тому

      @@titounoundici7920 the Wee People took Lisa by the low way home last Friday. My wife died when our children were young 20 years ago. My sweet middle son died 7 years ago I continue on the High way.

    • @Goldarr1900
      @Goldarr1900 2 роки тому +5

      @@russellmiles2861 I’m sorry for your loss.Jesus Christ also died on the cross. Why didn’t his father saved him? or why didn’t he saved himself? We know, it’s because, it was for the better of us. I believe there is a time for everything. My friend was driving home one day, she had a feeling inside her that wouldn’t let her rest. Instead of going home, she decided to check on her friend ( which is also my friend) it turns out the her friend was having a stroke.She called an ambulance, because she wasn’t mobile. The lady recovered from the stroke, like if she hadn’t had one. She looked perfectly normal. She died less than two years later, from cancer that was on remission. This life is short. I’ve also lost my Mother.. she got diagnosed with kidney disease. God did a miracle..she kept her alive for 21 years, even though she was going to dialysis.. that’s a long time.We we’re all grown up, when she passed away. I thank God he kept her alive for so many years.Don’t lose faith..This life is a test, it’s not our true home.

  • @abyisac6901
    @abyisac6901 2 роки тому +27

    I am a Catholic from Kerala, India, belonging to Syro Malabar Rite. Thank you very much for your great videos. It is an undeniable fact that the classical European Catholic/Christian Theology was developed by great intellectuals of those times, who were in no way second intellectually or in integrity to the great scientists who made the modern Science and Mathematics. Very happy to note that the entire Thomistic Institute Team has the true inheritance of that glorious past. God bless you all abundantly. 🌹🌹🌹

  • @markmenotti203
    @markmenotti203 2 роки тому +64

    "To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible."-Thomas Aquinas

    • @nonprogrediestregredi1711
      @nonprogrediestregredi1711 2 роки тому +3

      Thank you for an example of the flawed epistemology of Aquinas.

    • @sethgarries3219
      @sethgarries3219 2 роки тому +6

      This is actually a misattributed quote, there’s no evidence that he actually said this

    • @markmenotti203
      @markmenotti203 2 роки тому +4

      @@nonprogrediestregredi1711 Thank you for your flawed logic and reasoning. Unhappy much?

    • @syphaxafricanus
      @syphaxafricanus 2 роки тому

      @@markmenotti203 I think he's right. But I think it's better to clarify, what does faith mean in this quote?

    • @markmenotti203
      @markmenotti203 2 роки тому +3

      @@syphaxafricanus The act of faith is defined as the assent of the intellect to a truth which is beyond its comprehension, but which it accepts under the influence of the will moved by grace, and from that analysis, we are now in a position to define the virtue of faith as a supernatural habit by which we firmly believe those things to be true which God has revealed. Now every virtue is the perfection of some faculty, but faith results from the combined action of two faculties, viz., the intellect which elicits the act, and the will which moves the intellect to do so; consequently, the perfection of faith will depend upon the perfection with which each of these faculties performs its allotted task; the intellect must assent unhesitatingly, the will must promptly and readily move it to do so.

  • @JohnR.T.B.
    @JohnR.T.B. 2 роки тому +68

    Science can't predict if the girl I really like will say yes for a coffee.

    • @maxalaintwo3578
      @maxalaintwo3578 2 роки тому +10

      Now that's a real miracle

    • @sethapex9670
      @sethapex9670 2 роки тому +2

      If you gave her an MRI and showed her your picture or pictures of men who look like you, you would be able to to see what parts of her brain light up in response to your face, and if she is attracted to you. Other things might attract her, personality or intelligence, or things like physical fitness and income. But if she IS attracted to your face, she will likely say yes.

    • @maxalaintwo3578
      @maxalaintwo3578 2 роки тому +4

      @@sethapex9670 key word "likely"

    • @sethapex9670
      @sethapex9670 2 роки тому +2

      @@maxalaintwo3578 that's all scientific predictions are, an expectation of the likelihood of a phenomenon or event.

    • @maxalaintwo3578
      @maxalaintwo3578 2 роки тому +15

      @@sethapex9670 If you're trying to get an MRI scan of that girl, that's already a path to a hard no on that coffee

  • @migram4190
    @migram4190 2 роки тому +19

    Our consciousness in itself is a miracle.

  • @ToxicPea
    @ToxicPea 2 роки тому +22

    Listening to Professor Karin and her knowledge of physics and Catholicism together is always a treat.

  • @tobetrayafriend
    @tobetrayafriend 2 роки тому +32

    Really good to see the increasing number of subscribers on this channel. Keep up the good work guys

  • @spaceslav8954
    @spaceslav8954 2 роки тому +15

    These videos are very well made and I'm sure they will help a lot of people. That's how evangelisation should look like.

    • @ThomisticInstitute
      @ThomisticInstitute  2 роки тому +3

      Thank you! We hope you continue to find them useful. God bless you.

  • @drewm3807
    @drewm3807 2 роки тому +4

    As a systems administrator, I like to think of miracles as configuration changes to the system itself. It makes no sense to say which rules within the system produce the effect, since it is a change to the system, not a change from within the system.

  • @Dgm405
    @Dgm405 6 місяців тому

    What a definition! Bravo Aquinas!

  • @stephenmerritt5750
    @stephenmerritt5750 2 роки тому +8

    Most people don't take into account the profound lack of understanding mankind has about is environment and reality in general. We take what we know and see within the context of our own senses and take all for granted. We are in fact narrow minded and focused. It would seem to me that life itself is a miracle and therefore all miracles are natural. It is the unnatural that doesn't exist.

  • @condelevante4
    @condelevante4 2 роки тому +7

    Fascinating. Indeed if we hold to Hume’s skeptical position with regard to the witnessing of miracles we actually undermine the scientific method itself.
    Of course many new atheists seem to put attacking Christianity ahead of defending their professed love of science.

  • @Teal_Moon
    @Teal_Moon 2 роки тому +2

    Well said. Thank you!

  • @ponzianomanning3071
    @ponzianomanning3071 2 роки тому +4

    Great perspective I've waited for years to hear someone explain so well. I'll definitely listen to this again and again. Thank you!

  • @jamestyler6911
    @jamestyler6911 2 роки тому +4

    You're amazing!!!

  • @dynamic9016
    @dynamic9016 Рік тому

    Really appreciate this video.

  • @jjcm3135
    @jjcm3135 Рік тому +2

    great analysis. thanks.

  • @robertdoyle3582
    @robertdoyle3582 11 місяців тому

    Excellent teaching

    • @ThomisticInstitute
      @ThomisticInstitute  11 місяців тому

      We're glad to hear it! Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. May the Lord bless you!

  • @michelgarcia6395
    @michelgarcia6395 2 роки тому +1

    I'm learning English and also more of my faith c:

  • @rikimez127
    @rikimez127 2 роки тому +4

    Great video!

  • @scooby3133
    @scooby3133 2 роки тому +4

    If your God is able to perform a miracle then it should have no problem demonstrating it's existence. Without that you can't claim it can do anything unless you resort to imagination, confirmation bias, special pleading and other apologetics.
    The amount of effort involved in keeping people convinced this god character is real is astounding.

    • @Bersztipflag
      @Bersztipflag 2 роки тому

      ??? Rabadash.

    • @scooby3133
      @scooby3133 2 роки тому

      @@Bersztipflag the fantasy character?

    • @Bersztipflag
      @Bersztipflag 2 роки тому

      @@scooby3133 No, not really. more like incomprehensible rubbish. Your comment, I mean.

    • @scooby3133
      @scooby3133 2 роки тому

      @@Bersztipflag you can't comprehend logic? Ok

    • @Bersztipflag
      @Bersztipflag 2 роки тому

      @@scooby3133 I give you a point for knowing - almost - who Rabadash was. But anyone can google, I suppose.

  • @tomaszskorski6596
    @tomaszskorski6596 2 роки тому +6

    Look at the Eucharistic miracle's! Or all the miracle's that happened at Lourdes for example!

  • @altinmares8363
    @altinmares8363 2 роки тому +4

    Please post more videos about Aristotle philosophy and teachings

  • @williamhutcheson6511
    @williamhutcheson6511 2 роки тому +2

    The route from chemistry to consciousness to conscience. That is so improbable, so unlikely, so (shall I say it?) so miraculous.

  • @user-ug2hk3go6i
    @user-ug2hk3go6i Рік тому

    The 5+2 equation was a good allusion, well played.

  • @djg585
    @djg585 2 роки тому +2

    Jesus said, "Consider the lilies of the field..." Surely God would not tell us to examine the lilies, and then make it impossible for us to do so because of miraculous obstructions.

  • @TheCrossroads533
    @TheCrossroads533 4 місяці тому

    I am Catholic and also teach college astronomy. With that said, I don't honestly think miracles occur outside of the laws of nature; when they occur, they are subjective with limited eyewitnesses. Perhaps the "miracle" is how a natural event is interpreted by an individual or crowd (even which may involve misidentification or bad observing methods, etc.). When the water poured from an old wine container picked up the flavor of the original content, the suppers may have (mis)interpreted it as "water into wine" but gained profound, deeply personal insights into something larger than a mere everyday occurrence.

  • @dysfunctional_vet
    @dysfunctional_vet 6 місяців тому

    actually, every pregnancy is a miracle but, we live in a world where things are regular and something unexpected is a miracle. it shows the depth of our misunderstanding of the world around us
    there are other miracles, but again, we are dull, and see them not

  • @TheRonBerg
    @TheRonBerg 2 роки тому +1

    Great video, but most importantly, who else when she said "a god of thunder" thought "and rock and roll! \,,/"?

  • @kyzendelaguia1063
    @kyzendelaguia1063 2 роки тому +7

    In short, miracles are not the laws of nature being broken but rather nature’s lawgiver allowing a loophole in his law to be granted in a special situation

  • @AprendeMovimiento
    @AprendeMovimiento 2 роки тому +3

    If you contemplate the mysteries of life and of God, you begin to understand that absolutely everything is a miracle. The only difference between what we call miracles the everyday life experience is that miracles are condensed events in which the true nature of reality and it's Creator is revealed.
    For example: in the wedding of Cana our Lord makes people work, and collect water from a source in some containers and then through a process in which the human is not really involved directly he opperates and turn that contained water into wine.
    People also work and labor to take water from a source (grapes) and put it in a container and then through a process which is not totally controlled by humans that water ferments and becomes wine. The main difference between the two events is that one happens in a condensed moment in time, and through apparent less work, and the other is pretty much the same only with more time and through apparent more work. Both events are miraculous yet we only recognize the amazing things God does when the nature of reality and of God is revealed to us in a more abrupt way.

    • @McRingil
      @McRingil 2 роки тому

      your account diminishes the generocity of God, who gave us a stably operating human nature and many other objects their own: electrons`, dogs` and trees` natures. Also it denies the existence of human nature for Christ to possess, which is a dogma of our Faith.

    • @AprendeMovimiento
      @AprendeMovimiento 2 роки тому +2

      @@McRingil Not at all, I see God as Sain Francis of Assisi saw him, as Saint Thomas Aquinas described him in the firsta part of the Summa Theologiae, question 8, article 1, reply to the second objection. God contains the created world, thus nothing is outside of God. The names and descriptions we use to explain God are nothing but clues about a God that cannot be contained within our explanations, so the fact that we use terms such as "miracles" or "supernatural" are simply coordinates for us humans to try to make sense of the God who created us, but in reality God is in everything created and yet God is not limited to the created things. I don't understand how is it that by saying this I reduce God's power or mercy and love, or how is it that what I am saying turns Jesus Christ into someone other than God incaranated? Jesus is that Same God that contains everything but in the flesh, fully human yet fully God. So of course he can manifest the true nature of God in whatever shape or form he pleases, I am just pointing out that when he makes what we call miracles is no different than when he created the universe out of nothing, so both things are miraculous but we don't call both the same, because we are used to seeing those miracles in a way that feels ordinary, normal, natural, regular, etc.

    • @McRingil
      @McRingil 2 роки тому

      @@AprendeMovimiento you say, that everything is miraculous, so everything that happens happens beyond natures inherent in things
      without nature inherent to human beings, Jesus couldn`t have acquired it

    • @AprendeMovimiento
      @AprendeMovimiento 2 роки тому +1

      @@McRingil who gives and also sustains those "natural" inherited capabilities? is it nature itself who gives and sustains the natural capabilities?

    • @AprendeMovimiento
      @AprendeMovimiento 2 роки тому +1

      @@McRingil and Jesus didn't have to acquire anything he is God himself, the creator of all.

  • @imranharith8936
    @imranharith8936 2 роки тому +4

    Divine Intervention and Presence of God. Nature is miracle itself, but Human were too blind, they need proof about existence of God by seeks miraclous event. The way of prophets on monostheistic God and morality. The books He sent is a miracle intervene Human Acts about Morality and System.

  • @mymind101
    @mymind101 2 роки тому +1

    Check your thumbnail picture :) typpo accoring?

  • @CKSLAFE
    @CKSLAFE 2 роки тому +2

    Science doesn't exhaust reality. So yes, but not according to science.

    • @CKSLAFE
      @CKSLAFE 2 роки тому +1

      Can we be more than atoms according to the atomic theory? Of course not because we are just atoms for the atomic theory. But the atomic theory doesn't explain reality exhaustively.

  • @sethapex9670
    @sethapex9670 2 роки тому +2

    If we do not fully understand the laws of nature, we don't know where the exceptions could be.

    • @chrisbernal5164
      @chrisbernal5164 2 роки тому

      But of course the exception might be attributed to a law of nature yet unknown. Do you think there is an exception to a stone freely falling to earth and suddenly stops falling and become suspended in mid-air. Do you think there is a law of nature yet unknown attributable to the phenomenon. I await your explanation. Thank you.

    • @condelevante4
      @condelevante4 2 роки тому

      @@chrisbernal5164 or it could be within known laws but not observed. I mean if the particles in the room spontaneously stopped zipping off each other and the temperature dropped to absolute zero. It’s unlikely but not against any laws in science.

    • @chrisbernal5164
      @chrisbernal5164 2 роки тому

      @@condelevante4 The regularity of nature makes possible the scientific method and science. A deviation from that regularity can be explained by science as observed but as to causation of something regular made irregular is not anymore within the ambit of science. Believers call it miracle, which even great scientists attest.

    • @antoniomoyal
      @antoniomoyal Рік тому

      Exactly. God revesls himself precisely by oberriding laws of nature

  • @A_Skeptic
    @A_Skeptic 2 роки тому +1

    Well David Hume didn't believe in the laws of cause and effect

  • @alexrdy1986
    @alexrdy1986 Рік тому

    Saint Charbel!

    • @ThomisticInstitute
      @ThomisticInstitute  Рік тому

      We're glad we were able to include him, too! Thanks for watching and commenting, and may the Lord bless you!

  • @b4u334
    @b4u334 2 роки тому

    Modern biblical critics argue that Jesus’ miracles were really just acts of science unknown to us. To them, every claim of a miracle is “God of the Gaps.”

  • @MrFossil367ab45gfyth
    @MrFossil367ab45gfyth 2 роки тому +1

    All because science doesn't know something, doesn't mean it is supernatural of being a miracle. As science advances further in the future, maybe we'll find the answer to some "unexplained" phenomenon. However, I don't deny the miraculous, supernatural and God. You can't scientifically prove or disprove God, miracles and the supernatural. Science deals with studying the natural world and how it works, not the supernatural. Anything is possible my friend! :)

  • @ababich1
    @ababich1 Рік тому +2

    God works within the laws of the universe he has created. It is our lack of knowledge of those laws that creates a miracle in the mind of humans. Did Christ not tell us that we can make even greater miracles if we have faith.

    • @MrFossil367ab45gfyth
      @MrFossil367ab45gfyth 11 місяців тому

      Wait, but what about miracles like the Resurrection, healing, walking on water? They seem to contradict natural laws.

  • @the-Carpenter
    @the-Carpenter 10 місяців тому

    We can't even predict how a mind would react to a certain situation! Certain phenomenon cannot be explained by science; but history tells us it happened. I think it is rude to say that science has to explain everything.

  • @DistortedV12
    @DistortedV12 15 днів тому

    What if they just stretched the truth

  • @brianhurley2194
    @brianhurley2194 2 роки тому +1

    2:25
    Hume saying that the scientific method disproves miracles is rich seeing as how he literally believed that the universe didn't even exist outside his own head.
    8:40: it's also important to realize that the Bible itself in both the Old and New Testament declare that whenever Christ or the saints did a miracle that people were amazed and sometimes even still doubted what they saw. So even back then when people were arguably more open to the belief of supernatural entities they were still familiar enough with the natural world that whenever they actually DID see anything supernatural occur they were astounded.

  • @sarahbaer1593
    @sarahbaer1593 Рік тому

    God’s house, God’s rules

  • @jamesmc04
    @jamesmc04 7 місяців тому

    Seems to me that that question is like asking whether building a suspension bridge is possible according to the study of Old French. The two activities are unrelated; no amount of expertise in the study of Old French can confer any competence in building a suspension bridge. This is why the utterances of "celebs" on theological or Biblical matters are worthless - because being a tennis pro does not confer any expertise in the textual criticism of the Book of Deuteronomy or the Christology of the Cappadocian Fathers.
    The natural sciences, for all their value in their own fields, have no competence to pronounce on whether miracles are possible or not; to pronounce on that question, pertains to theology alone. Miracles are not produced by any principles within created nature, but by God alone; so, again, the natural sciences have no competence to pronounce on the matter, whether to admit or to deny the possibility of the miraculous.

  • @thewizzard9836
    @thewizzard9836 2 роки тому +1

    Short answer: NO

  • @lrvogt1257
    @lrvogt1257 Рік тому

    Obviously, if it were explainable scientifically it wouldn't be a miracle, would it. All over the world people make up explanations for things they don't understand by projecting their local beliefs on them. None have held up to serious scrutiny.

  • @thetubeinsideyou
    @thetubeinsideyou Рік тому

    7:15 You make the assumption that Christ actually rose from the dead.

  • @abelovedchildofgod7383
    @abelovedchildofgod7383 2 роки тому

    who commands the sun, and it does not rise; who seals up the stars;
    Job 9:7
    “Can you bind the chains of the Pleiades or loose the cords of Orion? Can you lead forth the Mazzaroth in their season, or can you guide the Bear with its children? Do you know the ordinances of the heavens? Can you establish their rule on the earth?
    Job 38:31‭-‬33
    “Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth? Tell me, if you have understanding.
    Job 38:4

  • @RodMartinJr
    @RodMartinJr 2 роки тому

    *_The Aquinas definition of miracle is missing something:_* The child of God producing a sensible effect as part of their maturation as someone created in the Heavenly Father's image. After all, Christ said that we could do these and even greater things.
    *_“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father” (John 14:12)._*

  • @Raverraver9999
    @Raverraver9999 2 роки тому +1

    Proof Eucharist is body of Jesus Christ and Virgin Mary is his mother.
    48I am the bread of life.
    49Your ancestors ate the manna in the desert, but they died;z
    50this is the bread that comes down from heaven so that one may eat it and not die.
    51I am the living bread that came down from heaven; whoever eats this bread will live forever; and the bread that I will give is my flesh for the life of the world.”a
    52The Jews quarreled among themselves, saying, “How can this man give us [his] flesh to eat?”
    53Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.
    54Whoever eats* my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day.
    55For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink.
    56Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him.
    57Just as the living Father sent me and I have life because of the Father, so also the one who feeds on me will have life because of me.b
    58This is the bread that came down from heaven. Unlike your ancestors who ate and still died, whoever eats this bread will live forever.”
    Eucharistic miracle..
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    ua-cam.com/video/oogJ-cdi7yI/v-deo.html (Rome Reports)
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    ua-cam.com/video/PvxTDAVypxs/v-deo.html (levitating eucharist)
    Incorruptible bodies of saints due to the Eucharist - only happens in the Catholic church. No other religion has this miracle
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    ua-cam.com/video/XCDBekAQ-FI/v-deo.html (Carlo Acutis)
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    Apparition of Virgin Mary
    ua-cam.com/video/GQnKS7YUE7Q/v-deo.html (Virgin Mary apparition in Ivory Coast)
    ua-cam.com/video/0PPGuMmn6TQ/v-deo.html (Virgin Mary statue moving)
    ua-cam.com/video/tVU8bhbQInw/v-deo.html (Virgin Mary apparition in Egypt)
    ua-cam.com/video/nMEWxRB-1dc/v-deo.html 1968 Egypt
    ua-cam.com/video/8YR6INkTK7Q/v-deo.html (Miracle of the sun)
    ua-cam.com/video/yF0_ysUivxE/v-deo.html (Miracle of the sun)
    ua-cam.com/video/76qAMB3qUpA/v-deo.html Medjugorje Sun miracle on Easter Sunday
    ua-cam.com/video/RyYNIulxIbc/v-deo.html Virgin Mary appears in Egypt & Spain-Eye Witnesses

  • @matswessling6600
    @matswessling6600 25 днів тому

    😂 Its telling that miracles are never of a kind that is truly impossible. Like getting back an amputed leg....

  • @nathanli3024
    @nathanli3024 2 роки тому

    I really like what you are saying but lady can you please blink?

    • @jjcm3135
      @jjcm3135 Рік тому

      At the very very end she did. Well spotted.

  • @russellmiles2861
    @russellmiles2861 2 роки тому

    St Paul in the epistles describes a celestial Jesus and never claims that there was a human resurrection. This claim was in the latter Gospels by person who were not eyewitness to any resurrection. In Mark there is no depiction of a human resurrection, Matthew gives scant detail. Luke and John redact the story adding events that are not known of anywhere else including that John was immortal. There is also the claim the Sun stood still for 3 hours but this is no reported by any other observer. The New Testament is analogous and has no claim of “miracles”. This is was just interpretations from 3rd century.

    • @ThomisticInstitute
      @ThomisticInstitute  2 роки тому

      Thank you for taking the time to watch the videos and share your response; that's much appreciated!
      Certainly a discussion of each of the positions you're espousing, though a worthwhile conversation, would take us farther afield than a UA-cam comment box can hold, so please forgive our not engaging all of them here. The claim about St. Paul, though, is confusing, as it seems that St. Paul does most emphatically claim that Christ rose from the dead. See 1 Corinthians 15:1-8, for example:
      "Now I would remind you, brothers and sisters, of the good news that I proclaimed to you, which you in turn received, in which also you stand, through which also you are being saved, if you hold firmly to the message that I proclaimed to you-unless you have come to believe in vain. For I handed on to you as of first importance what I in turn had received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the scriptures, and that he was buried, and that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the scriptures, and that he appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve. Then he appeared to more than five hundred brothers and sisters at one time, most of whom are still alive, though some have died. Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles. Last of all, as to one untimely born, he appeared also to me."
      The rest of 1 Corinthians 15 is also worth considering.
      Again thanks for taking the time to write. God bless you!

    • @russellmiles2861
      @russellmiles2861 2 роки тому

      @@ThomisticInstitute thank you for your reply. I would though refer you to 1 Cor. 11 23 -26. Where St Paul says “For I received from the Lord …”. He then describes the Eucharist. That is St Paul had contact with Jesus some 20 years after the Assumption. This is also before St Paul describes having a brief contact with James which is after 3 years of his Ministry.
      As the quote you cite says “he appeared also to me”.
      These are discussion about contact with a celestial Jesus and not as the Gospels rewrote it a historical event. There are matters in the Gospels such as the righteous coming out of their tombs, sun standing still and torn curtin. These matters would have been observed and reported by others if they occurred in history. There is also the evolving stories within the Gospels that indicates they are analogous.
      I contend the reading of the scriptures supports that Jesus was a celestial being.
      Hence the suppose miracle of a person rising from dead occurred in a celestial space.
      There is no evidence of miracles in scriptures. There is no evidence that miracles occurs.
      That would be strange in they did. Why would a god selectively cure some persons for that aggrandisement but others like my wife and middle son were not cured. That isn’t the work of a god but a demon.

    • @ThomisticInstitute
      @ThomisticInstitute  2 роки тому

      Dear Russell,
      Our sincere condolences for the loss of your wife and son. Be assured of our prayers.

    • @russellmiles2861
      @russellmiles2861 2 роки тому

      @@ThomisticInstitute thank you.

  • @giacomocaruso3635
    @giacomocaruso3635 2 роки тому +1

    Science is a great thing,compeared to divinity IS NOTHING!Padre Pio

  • @bluesdog3621
    @bluesdog3621 Рік тому

    I love listening to you, but sometimes you lose me.

  • @abelovedchildofgod7383
    @abelovedchildofgod7383 2 роки тому

    Modernism Catholic is the betrayed of tradition

  • @abelovedchildofgod7383
    @abelovedchildofgod7383 2 роки тому +1

    It is an error of the west to believe that the study of nature and Divine revelation of creation in the light of Christ can be sperated,
    When the scripture and the church fathers believe in the 6 Days creation and the church believe in the immaterial soul which science deny it then there is a conflict and contradiction there
    If the foundation of knowledge based on the wrong axiom that is Atheistism and materialism then all the rest of methods and results are inevitably fall into errors
    To believe in evolution is to blasphemed Christ because it suggests that Christ is not a perfect man because he is still an evolve ape, this is blasphemy and a sacrilege doctrine!
    There is in no way can those who called themselves a christian believe this blasphemous satanic doctrine.
    Return to tradition set yourself apart from this corrupt generation!

    • @matthewmayuiers
      @matthewmayuiers 2 роки тому +1

      Augustine is a Church father and he advocated for a non literalist interpretation of Genesis. In principle the sciences can’t refute arguments for the soul, because the soul is an immaterial reality and science studies on material reality.
      No such contradiction exists.
      The phrase ‘evolved ape’ makes it seem like Man and ape are categorically the same kind of thing. Even if man descended from Apes, that doesn’t mean Men are apes. We share similar bodies and DNA to them, but our rationality and nature give us a higher kind of dignity, we are in a totally different genus and class of life from the animals and apes . We are rational animals, as St. Thomas teaches.
      The totally progressive view of evolution that states that man is still evolving and still imperfect in his very nature does imply that Christ’s humanity was imperfect. However the Thomistic route does not fall into such errors.
      She’s citing St. Thomas, I don’t know how much closer to the tradition you can get than St. Thomas. The Catholic Church has always had an open view on certain evolutionary theories.

    • @abelovedchildofgod7383
      @abelovedchildofgod7383 2 роки тому

      @@matthewmayuiers Can the creature of the different substance metaphysically evolve into the difference creature?
      God created different creature and sperated according to its kind not evolve from other creature but exnihilo created out of nothing according to their kinds.
      How can Christ who still evolve is perfect in His human nature?
      Augustine don't reject the special Creation and no others church fathers reject the Special Creation
      The true knowledge of the world is hidden from us since the fall of Adam, it remain hidden
      The state of the world with which we know is in the state of being stored up for fire.
      knowing this first of all, that scoffers will come in the last days with scoffing, following their own sinful desires. They will say, “Where is the promise of his coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things are continuing as they were from the beginning of creation.” For they deliberately overlook this fact, that the heavens existed long ago, and the earth was formed out of water and through water by the word of God, and that by means of these the world that then existed was deluged with water and perished. But by the same word the heavens and earth that now exist are stored up for fire, being kept until the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.
      2 Peter 3:3‭-‬7
      One cannot know the nature of the world apart from the foundation of the Divine revelation
      Science study about the nature of the world, they don't limited at the material world if there is more to know or is verifiable
      And They reject the immateriality reality

    • @condelevante4
      @condelevante4 2 роки тому

      Genesis says that creation was created in six days but we know this cannot be 24 hour days we have on earth because before the first day God had not yet separated light from darkness.
      As for evolution there is evidence before our eyes that it occurred. Fossils and genetic lineage. If we were to close our eyes at this and deny this we would be going against our God given senses. Not far different to the Pharisees who denied Jesusa miracles (because of their heard hearts) even though the evidence was shown before their eyes. I see nothing profane here because the hearts behind the science (the true evolutionary scientists and not the polemicists) have been honestly looking for answers in an intelligible universe and not to put down our Lord. This drive originally came from within Christianity itself because our fire fathers and mothers believed creation was Good and had been created by a good God)
      I know that we have a lot of information and it’s confusing but for this I take the lead of the Church. In humility.
      God Bless

    • @abelovedchildofgod7383
      @abelovedchildofgod7383 2 роки тому

      @@condelevante4 Blasphemy!, how dare you say that to the Tradition of the fathers and to the word from the mouth of Our Lord Himself who said For if you did believe Moses, you would perhaps believe me also; for he wrote of me. John 5:46
      Those arrogant faithless rationalist men who have not faith nor piety toward the Tradition of the Fathers which had been revealed and inspired by the Holy Ghost, cannot find the Truth of God without the help of the Holy Ghost.
      First you need the correct Metaphysics to do science that is Aristotelian Thomistic Metaphysics: The Mind and language that was nailed to the Cross of Our Lord as an instrument of Our Salvation, the language and mind of Our Salvation.
      The Church always use Greek Philosophy to defined the matter of doctrine and Greek is the language of the New Testament and St Paul explained the existence of God to the Greek philosophers, and Logos is the word and term that was used for the Word of God in the New Testament by St John.
      Evolution did not happen before your eyes and no body can prove that man come from monkey that is metaphysically absurd for that which is cannot come from that which is not, you were not there "physically with your own eyes to prove that it was true"
      To believe in evolution is to disbelieve in Christianity and there is no other conclusion from that.
      This may sound angry to you but can you imagine what the fathers like St Nicholas would do after heard about this blasphemous modernist doctrine which is directly go against the teaching of Our Blessed Lord?
      Go listen to Fr Chad Ripperger who is the true Thomist not this fake modernist Thomist and their fake academic.

    • @carlostdied1184
      @carlostdied1184 2 роки тому

      @@abelovedchildofgod7383 HAIL SATAN ASIOHASEIORTEIOASHRTASEHOLHNSEOL:RT YESSSSS LET THE DEMONS ENTER YOUY!!!!

  • @RodMartinJr
    @RodMartinJr 2 роки тому

    *_Disagree!_* Miracles can be predictable, and we can even use scientific method to study miracles. But we have to give up the heavily flawed paradigm of *_skepticism,_* because of its potent bias of "doubt" which is the *_opposite_* of the *_KEY_* ingredient required in performing miracles: *_FAITH!_*
    *_Miracles As Cause-and-Effect Spiritual Action_*
    1) Child of God gets a clear picture of a desired end result.
    2) Child of God asks God for that result, and then "rests" from the asking (effectively the *_faith_* that God has the request and will deliver).
    3) God, being a loving and infinitely generous parent, delivers the requested result.
    4) Child of God makes use of the requested result.
    Example: Jesus asking for a storm, and then asking to walk on the unsettled Sea of Galilee.
    Example: Peter, overwhelmed with the inspiration of his master, steps out of the wildly tossed boat and stands on the rocking water surface, effectively asking, by the confidence in God embedded in his heart, for the same ability. And for a few moments, Peter stands on that liquid surface, showing the predictability of miracles.
    Examples (numerous): *_The Science of Miracles_* (paperback, ebook)

  • @anthonyw2931
    @anthonyw2931 2 роки тому +1

    "...anti-science demon..." HAHAHA