Half of the poles in this video are made by UCS which are fiberglass, not carbon fiber. The world record was jumped on a fiberglass pole by Renaud Lavilenie, and the the old world records were held by Sergei Bubka, also on UCS fiberglass poles. This video portrays an unrealistic depiction of the effects of carbon fiber poles on the sport of pole vault.
Come on IOC - Champaign is no where near Chicago but thanks for a great video about a local company founded by one of the 1st class of the University of Illinois Athletics Hall of Fame coach Harry Gill
Would love to see how someone would apply pole vaulting in real life… you can see nowadays they’re landing on padding and so their technique is just to splat on the ground. Back in the days they were able to land being thrown 5 metres in the air and still that was on sand. So I wonder if there are ancient vaulting techniques that have been lost due to the evolution of this sport, even to vault further? Land cleaner? Pole plant more precisely? Maybe vault with just pure bamboo/wood? Or just how they would apply pole vaulting in a real life situation? Maybe the true purpose of it was mountain climbing or vaulting buildings.
Champaign is in Illinois. Chicago is in Illinois. Champaign is NOT in Chicago. That would be like me saying that my friend lives in Munich, Berlin. That doesn't make much sense, does it?
The other side is landing pits. Back in the 40s the pit was sand or sawdust. When I vaulted in the 60s it was foam rubber (and lots of dirt) and you had to land on your feet and then roll onto your back and side. I sprained an ankle more than once.
In the early days if they weren’t forced to land on their feet on the hard ground they would have developed a much higher vault! Same with the high jump.
As a note, all of the vaults shown during the beginning where you talked about fiberglass poles were all on UCS Spirit poles which are NOT carbon fiber poles.
We used to land on the ground, then sand, then sawdust,. Then foam rubber and finally air bags. The sport was dangerous. In the 60's I jumped with a steel pole and landed in a sand pit from 12 feet in the air. So you had to land on your feet, standing up.
The world record was achieved on a fiberglass UCS Spirit pole, along with the Olympic record set in Rio 2016. That said, im not sure why they talk the whole video about carbon fiber (showing videos of vaulters mostly vaulting on fiberglass poles) poles being more technologically advanced when at this moment in time greater success is being seen with fiberglass poles. I get that carbon fiber poles are more complex in design but they are far from being the dominant pole type of choice at this moment in time in my opinion. I also understand that the ways the two types of poles react suit different styles of vaulter and it may just be the case that the technique suited for UCS Spirit poles is more optimised for efficiency of energy transfer and therefore jumping high.
ngardnerPV I would say that USC poles are the best for 5m+ poles but for the smaller poles I would say that Altius carbons are the best but once you get on 16 foot poles the people at USC have it figured out
As a matter of fact, it does introduce the possibility of having more energy in the system. Kinetic energy in a closed system is mass multiplied by the velocity squared. The reason that this is relevant is that, for example, if having a 3% lighter pole allows the athlete to run 2% faster, you actually end up with just shy of 1% more kinetic energy in the system (assuming all else is equal). Practically, this translates to a higher jump. What he said does make sense, especially when you start looking at energy return in the pole as well.
Regarding the "history" of pole vaulting let us not forget the horrible pits of yesteryear. At the best they were sawdust which was often compacted and/or damp which caused a loss of cushion.
This is like the most inaccurate portrayal of pole vaulting that I’ve ever seen. They use a 13 foot vaulter as their chosen athlete to interview, and constantly show random failed attempts and even a decathlete vaulter. Info is also random and they for some reason kept talking about carbon fiber as if any record has ever been set with a carbon fiber pole.
Well then you shouldn't have a single world record, but several: one for each type of pole used. I thought Sergey Bubka's legendary 6.14 world record was broken in 2020, but now I realize it may have been done with a different type of pole. Which means it's not a fair comparison.
Better materials means better result. Kinda pointless sport then if you can't compare results with people that used older poles. Something similar we had with swimming but they banned suits and that gives just a little difference. Here we have from bamboo to the fibre and who knows what we will get in the future.
Jeff Hartwig neglects to note that in 1943, on bamboo, while continually vaulting nearly 16 feet, without landing mats, Warmerdam was clearing his grip height repeatedly by nearly 3 feet. Comparatively, using modern powerful flexible poles, today's vaulters are terrible. Archaic "traditional" vaulting methods are entirely wrong for the new technology of which these guys so arrogantly boast. The video self-evidently portrays vaulters failing more than succeeding. Sadly, there is nothing to brag about in this errant presentation.
They make a huge deal about carbon fiber, and it's all a lie. They are not good, and everyone knows that the reason they need to jump fast is because they bend easier. They are not better in the least bit😂
So now it's just about the pole not the man or woman using it.thats to say if they all went back and had to use the old poles they could not jump as high ummmmm sad times
timbomuffin I don't think that is quite what they are saying. I think that they are implying that the pole is one of the most important tools in pole vault and with them they are able to jump higher. I don't think they are implying that the pole is all that matters. I think they are trying to say that the pole is very important and without the improvements that have been done, it would not have been possible to vualt as high as they have.
"Pole vaulters have a relationship between them and the pole. It's kind of like a marriage"
*shows all failed attempts at pole vaulting* lmao
he is telling you don't get married you will fail lol
Gotta love your pole...
I wonder what else they do cause they married
Half of the poles in this video are made by UCS which are fiberglass, not carbon fiber. The world record was jumped on a fiberglass pole by Renaud Lavilenie, and the the old world records were held by Sergei Bubka, also on UCS fiberglass poles. This video portrays an unrealistic depiction of the effects of carbon fiber poles on the sport of pole vault.
Champaign Chicago!?!? It’s Champaign, Illinois bruv
Come on IOC - Champaign is no where near Chicago but thanks for a great video about a local company founded by one of the 1st class of the University of Illinois Athletics Hall of Fame coach Harry Gill
sagestats hometown proud!
If they where mainly talking about carbon fiber poles, why did they show them making plexy glass poles most of the time?
Would love to see how someone would apply pole vaulting in real life… you can see nowadays they’re landing on padding and so their technique is just to splat on the ground. Back in the days they were able to land being thrown 5 metres in the air and still that was on sand. So I wonder if there are ancient vaulting techniques that have been lost due to the evolution of this sport, even to vault further? Land cleaner? Pole plant more precisely? Maybe vault with just pure bamboo/wood? Or just how they would apply pole vaulting in a real life situation? Maybe the true purpose of it was mountain climbing or vaulting buildings.
Champaign is in Illinois. Chicago is in Illinois. Champaign is NOT in Chicago.
That would be like me saying that my friend lives in Munich, Berlin. That doesn't make much sense, does it?
Dgahn maybe they wanted to say it's near Chicago or something. but yeah. "in Munich, Berlin" wouldn't maje any sense :D
It's 2 1/2 hours south of Chicago. I grew up near there. Chicago is like a completely different state compared to the rest of Illinois.
Thank you! we're not all Chicagoans
The other side is landing pits. Back in the 40s the pit was sand or sawdust. When I vaulted in the 60s it was foam rubber (and lots of dirt) and you had to land on your feet and then roll onto your back and side. I sprained an ankle more than once.
Actually the ones they showed were mostly made of fiberglass. Only the black ones are carbon fiber
what if it's black fiberglass? oh, and by the way, you can get carbon fiber in any color of the rainbow now.
belknapdlg26 fair point, but alot of the poles were UCS spirit poles which are fibreglass
Why did you have to bring race into this!
The Trigger
Hehehe
In the early days if they weren’t forced to land on their feet on the hard ground they would have developed a much higher vault! Same with the high jump.
As a note, all of the vaults shown during the beginning where you talked about fiberglass poles were all on UCS Spirit poles which are NOT carbon fiber poles.
We used to land on the ground, then sand, then sawdust,. Then foam rubber and finally air bags. The sport was dangerous. In the 60's I jumped with a steel pole and landed in a sand pit from 12 feet in the air. So you had to land on your feet, standing up.
The world record was achieved on a fiberglass UCS Spirit pole, along with the Olympic record set in Rio 2016. That said, im not sure why they talk the whole video about carbon fiber (showing videos of vaulters mostly vaulting on fiberglass poles) poles being more technologically advanced when at this moment in time greater success is being seen with fiberglass poles. I get that carbon fiber poles are more complex in design but they are far from being the dominant pole type of choice at this moment in time in my opinion. I also understand that the ways the two types of poles react suit different styles of vaulter and it may just be the case that the technique suited for UCS Spirit poles is more optimised for efficiency of energy transfer and therefore jumping high.
ngardnerPV Very insightful comment. Thanks for the info I didn't know before.
Edward Chamberlin you are very welcome my friend
ngardnerPV I would say that USC poles are the best for 5m+ poles but for the smaller poles I would say that Altius carbons are the best but once you get on 16 foot poles the people at USC have it figured out
Love it! Way to go Wood.
@1:48 Never knew Billy Bob Thornton was into Pole Vaulting!
I'd say UCS is the most prestigious pole vault manufacturer.
That guy missing over and over at the end. That would be me if I tried to pole vault
the equipment should never change, you never know who the greatest ever is
good point
CHAMPAIGN, CHICAGO?!?! COME ON!!
That's like saying "In Brisbane, Sydney." Come on guys
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Where the pole vault gang at??
Adam Keller Yeah!
Adam Keller Yeye! #TeamHoot!
Marshall Testa amen to that!
Right here
Champaign, Chicago?
"Puts more energy in the system".
Not for any reasons they are athletes
As a matter of fact, it does introduce the possibility of having more energy in the system. Kinetic energy in a closed system is mass multiplied by the velocity squared. The reason that this is relevant is that, for example, if having a 3% lighter pole allows the athlete to run 2% faster, you actually end up with just shy of 1% more kinetic energy in the system (assuming all else is equal). Practically, this translates to a higher jump. What he said does make sense, especially when you start looking at energy return in the pole as well.
Blake James
It made perfect sense to me, I just couldn’t map it out like you did professor!
Regarding the "history" of pole vaulting let us not forget the horrible pits of yesteryear. At the best they were sawdust which was often compacted and/or damp which caused a loss of cushion.
¿Por que pone pertiguistas con pértigas de fibra de vidrio como ejemplo?
This is like the most inaccurate portrayal of pole vaulting that I’ve ever seen. They use a 13 foot vaulter as their chosen athlete to interview, and constantly show random failed attempts and even a decathlete vaulter. Info is also random and they for some reason kept talking about carbon fiber as if any record has ever been set with a carbon fiber pole.
Beautiful I love it - جميلة
Well then you shouldn't have a single world record, but several: one for each type of pole used. I thought Sergey Bubka's legendary 6.14 world record was broken in 2020, but now I realize it may have been done with a different type of pole. Which means it's not a fair comparison.
Champaign or Chicago: pick one
I wonder how they're transported around...
Hudson T. Very carefully and expensively.
evolution of the discus please
Even if they did have carbon fibre poles in Athens, anyone going over, would break their legs on impact
Champaign is not in Chicago..lol
Me trying pole vault 4:49
Narrator sounds like Michael Fassbender
So the real winner is the pole, and the human is just a jockey
I'd be way too scared that the pole would break. Plus I'm fat so........
That the reason they made that Car accident.those Banna's
Vault lifting u over
Where ?
i can bay it
E bay?
You should do one for archery
"Therefore"
I don't need a pole to pole vault....know what I'm sayin"? :)
Reading all the comments I realize the Olympics video is really off the topic and also misdirection. :(
Sooooooo if im married with my pole.... So can I do, You know what I mean
You need some fresh air and sunshine...
Soooo is it pay to win?? Not sure how much poles cost...
Why is this 13 footer getting interviewed about pole vault?
Ancient Greeks didn't do the pole vault.
100 anniversary 2018
Thise poles were literally fiberglass😂 not carbon fiber
Lets put some high tech into stripper poles!! Lol
hi
Better materials means better result. Kinda pointless sport then if you can't compare results with people that used older poles. Something similar we had with swimming but they banned suits and that gives just a little difference. Here we have from bamboo to the fibre and who knows what we will get in the future.
03:12 This sport used to be suicide lol
I'm 15th
Cj Vj do you pole vault?
ancient greeks didnt compete in pole vault
I had a girlfriend once who was a great pole vaulter...a champion really. I think about her often😏
Jeff Hartwig neglects to note that in 1943, on bamboo, while continually vaulting nearly 16 feet, without landing mats, Warmerdam was clearing his grip height repeatedly by nearly 3 feet. Comparatively, using modern powerful flexible poles, today's vaulters are terrible. Archaic "traditional" vaulting methods are entirely wrong for the new technology of which these guys so arrogantly boast. The video self-evidently portrays vaulters failing more than succeeding. Sadly, there is nothing to brag about in this errant presentation.
M Toledo sam kendricks clears his grip height by nearly 4 feet if that's not progress then what is
Минус. Ни разу про С. Бубку не сказали!!!
I like triathlons anyone else🏳
Im early
They make a huge deal about carbon fiber, and it's all a lie. They are not good, and everyone knows that the reason they need to jump fast is because they bend easier. They are not better in the least bit😂
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So now it's just about the pole not the man or woman using it.thats to say if they all went back and had to use the old poles they could not jump as high ummmmm sad times
timbomuffin I don't think that is quite what they are saying. I think that they are implying that the pole is one of the most important tools in pole vault and with them they are able to jump higher. I don't think they are implying that the pole is all that matters. I think they are trying to say that the pole is very important and without the improvements that have been done, it would not have been possible to vualt as high as they have.
Konner Johnson hi konnner I hope your right thanks for getting back to me 👍🇬🇧
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Sounds like the athletes haven't gotten better. Lame sport
Prince Blake have you ever done it
You know that he has done nothing but call things lame to boost his ego.