Sorry if the video sounds a little off! I've been sick for the past week and a half so I finally just decided to finished this video! Sorry it took so long!
I think that like sim you should be able to leave and join back whenever you want, each game lasting 6 hours and possible combined arms would be available, maybe it could be like events kinda like Battlefield's 5's breakthrough where every so often each little piece of land is possible to be captured with ground vehicles and air superiority would be naturally controlled. Aswell as a story of some sort. It could also this helps with match anxiety so that you don't want to fight in a match because it might end poorly, if you'd like you could just leave and come back later, with a new country even. It'll also give helicopter players a place to grind out if they'd like, and Maybe a theatre for Naval players, to mix all of the modes and add to the cinematic experience. As to where they'd get the resources for this? I'm not sure, they could vulture Air RB Customs would probably go down, due to the decreased match anxiety and community nature that each map will form. Because people aren't stressed for time so they wouldn't get angry at other people as much. I've seen this in sim where people's aggression after getting kill is much less. This I attribute to the fact that you don't need to re-queue to keep playing and can just jump back in, but it could also be due to the controls making their actions feel more like their fault rather than blaming the other player for "unfair gameplay."
Potential game potenially has the potential to potentially become so much more incredible. I always get so simultaneously excited yet frustrated when talking about possible improvements to War Thunder. Ive played for so long, and hold a vested interest in its success, so seeing Gaijin make so many poor choices is demoralizing.The road map this year gives me a bit of hope, and so do videos like this. (Great video, ill definetely be giving some of the other vids you mentioned a watch :)
We need game long missions that consist of smaller tasks, instead of the ticket system, it should be a case of one team has to attack ground SPAA sites, bomb targets and land to capture airfields, they then push the splitting line forward and earn forward airbases to take off from, the team has to push all the way to the enemy teams spawn and capture the airfields to win, while the enemy team has to defend their land and bases for the full game duration to win, this will encourage PVP and PVE and discourage people from just bombing all game but will still reward it
We need RB EC back like we used to have, also turn off enemy markers in air RB and just show friendlies to encourage people to actually use their radar Edit: if you want 512x512 maps we need an AWACS who calls out targets, not necessarily data links but you can request bogey dope or they could give out target information in the chat box This could be done using the existing request air reconnaissance chat command
theres like 2 maps on ground in top tier that are MASSIVE but you only get 1 or 2 kills and both you and the enemys are just jumping between points and some times you dont even get a kill i feel i like they should add more player count on those maps
i actually like the map in the thubnail. there large valeys to fly through. its a nice map. i have maybe 7000hrs in WT RB and i agree most maps are boring and flat but that one is ok
Pyrenees has a good overall layout, and is nice with the mountain. But I just don’t think it’s utilized very well and you don’t actually use a whole lot of the map
The current maps are already far too large for 8.0-10.0 jets (sometimes, some are fine some are not) and just making the map huge isn't a good idea. That just massively increases frustration due to takeoff to combat flight time + no respawns.
I mentioned multiple times that this would only be for EC and for top tier. Smaller versions of the maps could be used for lower tiers and for regular RB
If you watch the whole video you can see that I say multiple times the larger maps would only be for the EC game mode and you can use smaller versions of them, often times multiple small versions for regular air RB
I think the teams should definitely be smaller for regular air RB, but I would like to see bigger maps for RB EC where there can be a lot of different objectives
Reducing team size won't stop your problem of constant furballs. Games are running about as short as they physically can be, barring one team completely dying before they get to the merge.
Yes they do. EC needs to return so the people who enjoy that can, and the people who want fast paced matches as it is now to just click “Battle” and enjoy that experience. Nobody is wanting to force you to play on these maps. Which is why he said these are for EC, or could be shrunken down for standard air battles
It would solve the issue of: 1. Not enough bases for 16 players to bomb 2. Force concentration winning every game no matter what (this is just RNG based on how good your team is or what your team composition is) 3. Top tier having too many missiles flying to be counterable. @@mikkim-mh9bc
@@jpc6485TL;DR: Nothing that you listed as 'solved' stops the ongoing issue of 'immediate furball, one team crumples, GG in 7.' Okay, let's say it's now 5v5. Current maps. 2 players on your team bring bombs, and all 5 players on the enemy team bring purely air superiority loadouts. Unless the enemy team is unfathomably stupid, and engages the 3 of you piecemeal you are going to lose. So you're probably going to bunch up to have the best chance in a numbers game. Different scenario. Let's say the teams are 8v8, everyone has a full air to air loadout, everyone is in the their 12.7 or 12.3. At what point do the AIM-9Ms, AAM-3s, and R-73s stop being counterable? When you have two guys on your 6? Or (more likely) 1 on your 6 and another coming from your 2 because you entered a furball? When you reduce player count a high BR war thunder is going to function less like Siege and more like late-game League of Legends because of how easy it is to negate terrain and distance to players. The game lends itself more towards a MOBA 'team fights' i.e. a furball, than multiple 1v1 engagements. As long as the maps stay small the majority of players, no matter the match size, are going to fly full burner on the deck straight at the enemy team because its quick, easy, and is rewarded. But it results in those furballs filled with 'un-counterable' 'cancerous' IRCCM-capable missiles.
Nice ideas. but i think most are a bit 'of'. we shouldnt have too much maps in america. i would rather want to see more maps in europe, africa, middle east and east asia. just because they have seen more combat
The whole point is a lot of people want controls like WT and especially when talking about RB EC it’s completely different from DCS. They’re not close enough to be able to tell a ton of people to “just go play DCS”
Sorry if the video sounds a little off! I've been sick for the past week and a half so I finally just decided to finished this video! Sorry it took so long!
Easily copy the DCS Caucuses map for one… I WANNA BE A ROACH IN THE MOUNTAINS
For some of the maps with water, you could add interactive aircraft carriers that naval aircraft can take off of. These could also be sunk
No more polygon mountains. Me want real looking hills.
What we also want are maps with no graphical glitches.
Great background music choice, I love when people use soundtracks from decade old games under their commentary
I think that like sim you should be able to leave and join back whenever you want, each game lasting 6 hours and possible combined arms would be available, maybe it could be like events kinda like Battlefield's 5's breakthrough where every so often each little piece of land is possible to be captured with ground vehicles and air superiority would be naturally controlled. Aswell as a story of some sort.
It could also this helps with match anxiety so that you don't want to fight in a match because it might end poorly, if you'd like you could just leave and come back later, with a new country even.
It'll also give helicopter players a place to grind out if they'd like, and Maybe a theatre for Naval players, to mix all of the modes and add to the cinematic experience.
As to where they'd get the resources for this? I'm not sure, they could vulture Air RB Customs would probably go down, due to the decreased match anxiety and community nature that each map will form. Because people aren't stressed for time so they wouldn't get angry at other people as much. I've seen this in sim where people's aggression after getting kill is much less. This I attribute to the fact that you don't need to re-queue to keep playing and can just jump back in, but it could also be due to the controls making their actions feel more like their fault rather than blaming the other player for "unfair gameplay."
Yeah it would be EC where you can leave and rejoin, a different nation probably not for a variety of reasons.
This.
sim has it kinda sortof just without changing your loadout.@@Will_Is_Awesome
Potential game potenially has the potential to potentially become so much more incredible.
I always get so simultaneously excited yet frustrated when talking about possible improvements to War Thunder. Ive played for so long, and hold a vested interest in its success, so seeing Gaijin make so many poor choices is demoralizing.The road map this year gives me a bit of hope, and so do videos like this.
(Great video, ill definetely be giving some of the other vids you mentioned a watch :)
As bad as it is I feel like it’s so close to greatness, maybe one day
Good video, Chesapeake bay would be funny asf to me as a map, simply just because ill have a map of where i live in the game lmao
We need game long missions that consist of smaller tasks, instead of the ticket system, it should be a case of one team has to attack ground SPAA sites, bomb targets and land to capture airfields, they then push the splitting line forward and earn forward airbases to take off from, the team has to push all the way to the enemy teams spawn and capture the airfields to win, while the enemy team has to defend their land and bases for the full game duration to win, this will encourage PVP and PVE and discourage people from just bombing all game but will still reward it
I've instantly recognized skyrim music in the video and thought to my self if i have'nt left skyrim opened in the background lmao
Also we need more runway options for rb like how we have in sim I think that will help out massively and it helps spread things out.
We need RB EC back like we used to have, also turn off enemy markers in air RB and just show friendlies to encourage people to actually use their radar
Edit: if you want 512x512 maps we need an AWACS who calls out targets, not necessarily data links but you can request bogey dope or they could give out target information in the chat box
This could be done using the existing request air reconnaissance chat command
theres like 2 maps on ground in top tier that are MASSIVE but you only get 1 or 2 kills and both you and the enemys are just jumping between points and some times you dont even get a kill i feel i like they should add more player count on those maps
100% agreed need more maps w vid
I would love to have a map of Southerner Norway + Sweden and Denmark. Love the video. with this quality you could reach over 10k subs
Thank you!
DCS has a map with part of Turkey, Cyprus and Syria. I would like to see such maps in War Thunder with less detail...
i actually like the map in the thubnail. there large valeys to fly through. its a nice map. i have maybe 7000hrs in WT RB and i agree most maps are boring and flat but that one is ok
Pyrenees has a good overall layout, and is nice with the mountain. But I just don’t think it’s utilized very well and you don’t actually use a whole lot of the map
The current maps are already far too large for 8.0-10.0 jets (sometimes, some are fine some are not) and just making the map huge isn't a good idea. That just massively increases frustration due to takeoff to combat flight time + no respawns.
I mentioned multiple times that this would only be for EC and for top tier. Smaller versions of the maps could be used for lower tiers and for regular RB
How did your radar automatically lock on that guy at the beginning? I don't get how radar works on the f15 even though I have it.
I just hit the lock key for the radar immediately after the enemy appeared on my radar
That Aim-7 at 1:03💀
Yeah it was dev server footage so just one of many bugs lol
Oh really
I wish the snail saw this
Btw great video editing script and of course ideas so I subscribed
How about smaller rather than larger maps. EC maps can be in the EC gamemode.
If you watch the whole video you can see that I say multiple times the larger maps would only be for the EC game mode and you can use smaller versions of them, often times multiple small versions for regular air RB
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Did I just get trolled by THE Loudward
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Falklands Island map would be cool👍
I had more ideas I just cut it at 18 since I did t want it to be too long, falklands would be an amazing map though
Maps dont need to be bigger, teams need to be smaller
I think the teams should definitely be smaller for regular air RB, but I would like to see bigger maps for RB EC where there can be a lot of different objectives
Reducing team size won't stop your problem of constant furballs. Games are running about as short as they physically can be, barring one team completely dying before they get to the merge.
Yes they do. EC needs to return so the people who enjoy that can, and the people who want fast paced matches as it is now to just click “Battle” and enjoy that experience. Nobody is wanting to force you to play on these maps. Which is why he said these are for EC, or could be shrunken down for standard air battles
It would solve the issue of:
1. Not enough bases for 16 players to bomb
2. Force concentration winning every game no matter what (this is just RNG based on how good your team is or what your team composition is)
3. Top tier having too many missiles flying to be counterable. @@mikkim-mh9bc
@@jpc6485TL;DR: Nothing that you listed as 'solved' stops the ongoing issue of 'immediate furball, one team crumples, GG in 7.'
Okay, let's say it's now 5v5. Current maps. 2 players on your team bring bombs, and all 5 players on the enemy team bring purely air superiority loadouts. Unless the enemy team is unfathomably stupid, and engages the 3 of you piecemeal you are going to lose. So you're probably going to bunch up to have the best chance in a numbers game.
Different scenario. Let's say the teams are 8v8, everyone has a full air to air loadout, everyone is in the their 12.7 or 12.3. At what point do the AIM-9Ms, AAM-3s, and R-73s stop being counterable? When you have two guys on your 6? Or (more likely) 1 on your 6 and another coming from your 2 because you entered a furball?
When you reduce player count a high BR war thunder is going to function less like Siege and more like late-game League of Legends because of how easy it is to negate terrain and distance to players. The game lends itself more towards a MOBA 'team fights' i.e. a furball, than multiple 1v1 engagements.
As long as the maps stay small the majority of players, no matter the match size, are going to fly full burner on the deck straight at the enemy team because its quick, easy, and is rewarded. But it results in those furballs filled with 'un-counterable' 'cancerous' IRCCM-capable missiles.
Nice ideas. but i think most are a bit 'of'. we shouldnt have too much maps in america. i would rather want to see more maps in europe, africa, middle east and east asia. just because they have seen more combat
warthunder needs ECRB
Bigger maps? So no one can rush the objectives just camp them wow
Wdym? I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone camp their own objectives in sim to get kills
Honestly at this point id rather just make a new game
Good video, I’ll subscribe he he
at this point you can go and play DCS
The idea is pretty cool tho
The whole point is a lot of people want controls like WT and especially when talking about RB EC it’s completely different from DCS. They’re not close enough to be able to tell a ton of people to “just go play DCS”
really dumb comment ngl