I loved the “Tailgate with Todd” feature. So well spoken and fluent. All new to me on the m-Tronic system. Very cool to see you reprogram it. I think it will be a rippa next time out! Very nice vid. WST
All be damned. Iv been running my 462 with the bark box for some time now. Iv noticed its a little better but Im going to try this first chance I get. Thanks for sharing this info. Take Care !!!
I added one of these ms400 saws to the family today. Haven't touched wood with it yet,but can't wait. I have to say it is the best starting stihl I have seen. I'm pretty sure I will like it.
I bet you will love it! In the experience I have had with it, it is probably the best professional saw Stihl makes for the price in my opinion. Granted, I haven’t ran all of them but just from the videos I have watched and compared with to our saw it stands out.
Nice job on the video son! Just a quick update on the saw. I did cut down a 10-12 inch locust tree after the reset and the saw ran real good and smooth! I did notice a difference. Thanks for watching and commenting everyone👍🏻👍🏻
@@mattsfirewoodvideos738 Matt we have the warranty for two years on our saw I figured if something happened to the saw I would just re install the stock cap back on the muffler! All the bark box does is replace the outer cover of the stock muffler. The whole remaining muffler that bolts to your cylinder head stays intact from factory.
Good demo.. Waiting for the warranty to expire before I replace the muffler with something better than stock.. Tailgate with Todd does have a nice ring to it..😁👍
That’s what we were worried about is the warranty! But if anything happens we will just put the stock muffler back on.. if ya know what I mean!😂 thanks for watching!
I'm going to try this tomorrow. I've 5 or 6 tanks of fuel thru my 400c and it has been 90% or more in the cuts, yet is still doesn't seem as smooth in the cut as I expect. Maybe this reprogram will make the difference.
Todd, i only have 1 mtronic, a 241. I will have to try it on that. I usually keep all my saws original, but that bark box woke it up. I was just in the local store and saw a ms261 carbureted saw. I almost bought it, but saving for an MS880 because i got a few trees to slab.
The 880 would be a cool toy to have! But without a use for it that’s one pretty penny for just a toy! In your case for making slabs it would be awesome!
Todd, no i didnt put a bark box on my 241. I should have been more clear. I meant about tuning those M-Tronics. That 261 with a carburetor would be awesome with that 400. Evan, if i did not have some big oaks and a big Pecan tree to take down and slab, i would not get one. Accountant says i need to expense out some money for taxes.
When you make your first cut after the reprogrammed mtronic system you’ll really notice the increase in power of the 400c and if you want to gain more power let me know and I’ll tell you everything I’ve done to mine to get as much power as possible out of this little hotrod of a saw . Stay safe my friends
Thank you man! We had no idea, and like my dad said in the video the instructions we received from west coast saws was what we thought would work. Thanks for watching!
I wanna know lol I have the same saw I'm curious to know if it voids the warranty on it I have a 12 month warranty on it and I'm only like a month or so into it I want the bark box but don't wanna void the warranty
@@mattsfirewoodvideos738 crank the saw on choke and let it idle for about 45 seconds and hold the trigger wide open till you hear the saw come alive it will take about 40 seconds and then when you hear it bouncing of the revlimmiter its ready to go to work and it doesn’t void your warranty
Todd ,question ,can a 400 M handle a 25' bar meaning oil wise lubricating the chain sufficiently??? Please advise me whenever you can, I thank you in advance Gunter PS. What about that magnesium piston how safe r they ? Have they really proven themselves, hearing conflicting opinions on the coating possible flaking chipping which could damage the piston and furthermore the bearings down below in the crankcase? What's your opinion n experience with the 400 on that matter???
I have the same exact saw and I was thinking about that bark box but I heard it voids the warranty do you know anything about that I'm only like a month or so into a 1 year warranty
I don’t know anything about that, my guess is it probably would. But if anything did happen we would probably just put the original exhaust back on it and wouldn’t say anything 🤷🏼♂️
When modifying engines, and putting on aftermarket parts you sometimes upset the balance of the engine. Yes it puts out more power etc but it usually shortens engine life. If it was that easy I’m sure that Stihl would put that fix on their saws. I’m a heavy duty mechanic and I see this happening on Diesel engines. A good sample is aftermarket air cleaners, if it’s that simple to get more power the engine manufacturers would put it on at manufacture as it would only cost pennies more. You’ll get lots of people saying I’m wrong, but just think about it. Enjoy your videos as always, keep up the good work. Cheers
Sorry, but you're wrong. There's nothing "unbalancing" the engine when doing a muffler mod, especially on these simple 2 strokes. Why Stihl doesn't do it this way stock? Because they got emission and noise limits to pass. That's it.
@ Gerry Spang .. Thanks for the info Gerry I agree that if you go to far with a stock machine of any kind you can shorten the life of an engine. That being said I have a duramax and the dealer suggested that I delete the def on it because they choke them down too far from factory! The guy I took it to is a world renowned diesel mechanic and he said the same thing! As long as you stay as close to stock as you can like I did with a simple tune the engine will run cooler more efficient and last longer! I get better fuel economy as well! That being said the bark box install on this saw should make it run cooler and last longer. Basically all the bark box does is add a second hole for exhaust to escape. The stock muffler is still intact behind the bark box. Thanks for interacting and commenting! That’s what it’s all about!
@@em4703 I’m a heavy duty mechanic, not a small engine, if I’m wrong I’m sorry, but most engines are made to run with a certain amount of back pressure, in the small engines I dealt with in the generators they have a muffler that’s a spark arrestor. This is a safety item. Any time you put aftermarket parts on it it upsets the factory specs which are all in compliance, that’s why people usually wait till the engine is out of warranty, as modifying an engine voids warranty by the Orem. In later years I was transferred to tech support and many people would complain why they had engine problems. After asking questions it usually turned out the engine had been deleted, or modified.. cheers my friend
Wow, you guys have the neatest cleanest, most organized looking wood yard I have ever seen! Nice!
“We learned it from watching you” Chris! Thanks for watching and poking the buttons!👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you! We like to clean up after every time we split to keep it looking nice!
Thanks for watching Chris!
I loved the “Tailgate with Todd” feature. So well spoken and fluent. All new to me on the m-Tronic system. Very cool to see you reprogram it. I think it will be a rippa next time out! Very nice vid. WST
We had no idea about the reprogramming comment from lumber Jackson’s! Thanks for watching Mike!
Your a Tasmaniac too with lol she's a rippa
Great info, great looking yard!
All be damned. Iv been running my 462 with the bark box for some time now. Iv noticed its a little better but Im going to try this first chance I get. Thanks for sharing this info. Take Care !!!
Yep! I’m glad I could share something with you!
I added one of these ms400 saws to the family today. Haven't touched wood with it yet,but can't wait. I have to say it is the best starting stihl I have seen. I'm pretty sure I will like it.
I bet you will love it! In the experience I have had with it, it is probably the best professional saw Stihl makes for the price in my opinion. Granted, I haven’t ran all of them but just from the videos I have watched and compared with to our saw it stands out.
Thanks so much guys. Very informational 👍👍
Thank you for watching!
Just brought one. Gona go the bark box. Yer great info can def hear it work. When i first started it said 90 secs before throttle. Thanks
Outstanding
Nice job on the video son! Just a quick update on the saw. I did cut down a 10-12 inch locust tree after the reset and the saw ran real good and smooth! I did notice a difference. Thanks for watching and commenting everyone👍🏻👍🏻
I have the same saw and was gonna get that bark box and wanted to know if it voids the warranty I'm only like a month or so into a 12 month warranty
@@mattsfirewoodvideos738 Matt we have the warranty for two years on our saw I figured if something happened to the saw I would just re install the stock cap back on the muffler! All the bark box does is replace the outer cover of the stock muffler. The whole remaining muffler that bolts to your cylinder head stays intact from factory.
@@toddsoutsideagain yeah I just wasn't sure if they could tell by the m-tronic
Good demo.. Waiting for the warranty to expire before I replace the muffler with something better than stock..
Tailgate with Todd does have a nice ring to it..😁👍
That’s what we were worried about is the warranty! But if anything happens we will just put the stock muffler back on.. if ya know what I mean!😂 thanks for watching!
Nice video Todd and Evan. Be interesting to see how she runs now after the adjustment. 👍🏻
We are antsy to get it into some wood now! Thanks for watching rod!
I'm going to try this tomorrow. I've 5 or 6 tanks of fuel thru my 400c and it has been 90% or more in the cuts, yet is still doesn't seem as smooth in the cut as I expect. Maybe this reprogram will make the difference.
Only used it couple of times but shes smooth no vibration much light yer happy.
Todd, i only have 1 mtronic, a 241. I will have to try it on that. I usually keep all my saws original, but that bark box woke it up. I was just in the local store and saw a ms261 carbureted saw. I almost bought it, but saving for an MS880 because i got a few trees to slab.
The 880 would be a cool toy to have! But without a use for it that’s one pretty penny for just a toy! In your case for making slabs it would be awesome!
Craig the 261 is a saw that I will get someday to go with my 400c! Are you saying you put a bark box on your 241?
Todd, no i didnt put a bark box on my 241. I should have been more clear. I meant about tuning those M-Tronics. That 261 with a carburetor would be awesome with that 400.
Evan, if i did not have some big oaks and a big Pecan tree to take down and slab, i would not get one. Accountant says i need to expense out some money for taxes.
When you make your first cut after the reprogrammed mtronic system you’ll really notice the increase in power of the 400c and if you want to gain more power let me know and I’ll tell you everything I’ve done to mine to get as much power as possible out of this little hotrod of a saw . Stay safe my friends
Thank you man! We had no idea, and like my dad said in the video the instructions we received from west coast saws was what we thought would work. Thanks for watching!
I wanna know lol I have the same saw I'm curious to know if it voids the warranty on it I have a 12 month warranty on it and I'm only like a month or so into it I want the bark box but don't wanna void the warranty
@@mattsfirewoodvideos738 crank the saw on choke and let it idle for about 45 seconds and hold the trigger wide open till you hear the saw come alive it will take about 40 seconds and then when you hear it bouncing of the revlimmiter its ready to go to work and it doesn’t void your warranty
@@lumberjacksons4468 appreciate that man I will give that a shot tomorrow morning when I het out in the wood
Todd ,question ,can a 400 M handle a 25' bar meaning oil wise lubricating the chain sufficiently??? Please advise me whenever you can, I thank you in advance Gunter
PS. What about that magnesium piston how safe r they ? Have they really proven themselves, hearing conflicting opinions on the coating possible flaking chipping which could damage the piston and furthermore the bearings down below in the crankcase?
What's your opinion n experience with the 400 on that matter???
What fuel mix you used in your chainsaw ? Great vidéo simply and clearly for programmation cool
The owners manual tells you to do it occasionally based on change of weather, etc
I have the same exact saw and I was thinking about that bark box but I heard it voids the warranty do you know anything about that I'm only like a month or so into a 1 year warranty
I don’t know anything about that, my guess is it probably would. But if anything did happen we would probably just put the original exhaust back on it and wouldn’t say anything 🤷🏼♂️
@@WhackinAxes lol yeah I was thinking the same thing about the exhaust
Did leave it in cold start the whole time?
Pinning the throttle automatically moves the lever from cold start to run so no.
Why do I see zip ties on so many handles? Is that to measure the cuts? Thanks.
yep
When modifying engines, and putting on aftermarket parts you sometimes upset the balance of the engine. Yes it puts out more power etc but it usually shortens engine life. If it was that easy I’m sure that Stihl would put that fix on their saws. I’m a heavy duty mechanic and I see this happening on Diesel engines. A good sample is aftermarket air cleaners, if it’s that simple to get more power the engine manufacturers would put it on at manufacture as it would only cost pennies more. You’ll get lots of people saying I’m wrong, but just think about it. Enjoy your videos as always, keep up the good work. Cheers
I agree! Just a simple thing can change the output of a motor a lot more than you think! Thanks for watching!
Sorry, but you're wrong. There's nothing "unbalancing" the engine when doing a muffler mod, especially on these simple 2 strokes. Why Stihl doesn't do it this way stock? Because they got emission and noise limits to pass. That's it.
@ Gerry Spang .. Thanks for the info Gerry I agree that if you go to far with a stock machine of any kind you can shorten the life of an engine. That being said I have a duramax and the dealer suggested that I delete the def on it because they choke them down too far from factory! The guy I took it to is a world renowned diesel mechanic and he said the same thing! As long as you stay as close to stock as you can like I did with a simple tune the engine will run cooler more efficient and last longer! I get better fuel economy as well! That being said the bark box install on this saw should make it run cooler and last longer. Basically all the bark box does is add a second hole for exhaust to escape. The stock muffler is still intact behind the bark box. Thanks for interacting and commenting! That’s what it’s all about!
@@em4703 I’m a heavy duty mechanic, not a small engine, if I’m wrong I’m sorry, but most engines are made to run with a certain amount of back pressure, in the small engines I dealt with in the generators they have a muffler that’s a spark arrestor. This is a safety item. Any time you put aftermarket parts on it it upsets the factory specs which are all in compliance, that’s why people usually wait till the engine is out of warranty, as modifying an engine voids warranty by the Orem. In later years I was transferred to tech support and many people would complain why they had engine problems. After asking questions it usually turned out the engine had been deleted, or modified.. cheers my friend
Man, I wouldn't waste black walnut as firewood. That would have made some pretty lumber.
Walnut causes chimney fires . It's very bad to burn in a wood stove. I've had people tell me I'm full of it until they have their own chimney fire .