This Laptop Destroys Your PC - MSI Titan 18 HX
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- Опубліковано 8 лют 2025
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Presenter: Brett Sticklemonster
Videographer: Kyler Himes
Editor: Catlin Stevenson
Thumbnail Designer: Reece Hill
Congrats on getting the channel back! Hope it was sorted out
what happened?
MSI wants $5400 for this laptop. Just think about that for a second.
What happens when you make no compromises, other than being a laptop lol
Well if you want the fastest or near fastest portable machine. Gotta make that dough.
Hey, I got a kidney to spare. Let's go
@@CameronVanNatta Except there are a lot of compromises:
- It lacks Advanced Optimus which means no automatic iGPU/dGPU connectivity to the display meaning you'll have to restart every time you want either decent efficiency or full dGPU performance.
- There's no G-Sync which now that so many games have DLSS and Frame Gen should be mandatory.
- When you populate all 4 RAM slots, you're limited to 3600Mhz RAM.
- The keyboard isn't full-mechanical even though they claim it is--the entire function row, numpad, arrowkeys, and some other abbreviation keys are membrane which is a pathetic attempt at cost-cutting.
- The touchpad is prone to mis-clicks and palm rejection isn't the greatest on the touchdeck.
- It barely edges out the much cheaper Legion Pro 7i in combined CPU/GPU performance evaluations.
@@WeatherxCalipha You forgot one thing, it's MSI
yes my 7800x3d/4090 combo is far too slow to keep up with this super ventilated and well powered plastic gimmick im sure
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Exactly! My 7800X3D/4090 Combo gaming desktop is easily $2000 cheaper than this laptop. Not only is mine more powerful, every single part (minus the WiFi card) is fully upgradable.
He said most yall chill😂
Your total FPS is fore sure a lot better. However your CPU is slower then this one for daily tasks. I have a I7-14700KF that is a lot faster then the ryzen 7 7800X3D in multi tasking and single thread. But your cpu is faster in gaming. Not a whole lot. My 4080 super can't keep up with your 4090 for sure. And i also would never buy a 5400$ laptop.
its metal but pop off king
I really wish they would bring back laptops with more customizable options. These specs are overkill.. and let's not mention that price.
overkill ? depends on your use case. if im using this for houdini and unreal engine, this is a good kill
Xoticpc has plenty of customizable laptops and desktops
This MSI laptop is a beast !!!!! With all that flexibility to do upgrade, 4x slots, 3x SSD. That's insane~ MSI is really killing it
"yes mom i need this for school, to run microsoft word"
As an OTR truck driver and a man that has some bills to pay. Im looking at several weeks of saving and im buying this thing so i can edit videos, photos and make music with fl studio in my semi truck after my shifts and in my 34 hour resets.
And gaming. You could download like libraries of emulators and games and steam and any game you could imagine and It still wouldn't scratch the surface of storage space
Hey man just wondering, how much money do you make doing truck driving?
just get a cheaper 4080 laptop on best buy open box and spend less then 2k thats really all you will need
@@jukijunkit depends on what you’re doing. But avg $4k a week.
Im a trucker and i bought a g18 strix with a 4080 and the same processor as this one. 64gb ram. It was only 2500. This laptop is absolute stupid overkill.
Absolutely loved it Brett. Well done 👍
if i took a shot every time he said "situation" id be hammered
I almost bought this to be able to run 192GB as an upgrade to my Asus SCAR 18 2023 which currently runs 96GB DDR5, 16GB GDDR6 and 118GB Optane as a dedicated swap drive.
The problem that stopped me is how regarded the design of MSI machines are and the port layout. I would be running 192GB DDR5 with overflow to a 3 disk 354GB Optane Raid 0 array. Half terrabyte memory workloads are exciting.
i am personally thinking to buy one for myself do you think Rog strix scar 16/18 enough to handle Houdini, Unreal, 3ds max, Maya, After Effects, Davinci, Zbrush, Substance and Cinema 4D simulations like stuff
looks like you also work in some either vfx gaming field or deep learning only those guys need this much of ram lol
The only new in this trackpad is RGB and the not existing transmisssion between the trackpad and the body. Apple is using trackpads with haptic feedback for ages.
SD Card ready is crucial, this would be a lovely bundle if you happened to own a bambu lab x1 Carbon... my wallet is shivering at the thought of buying this
So what is the actual battery life of the MSI Titan 18 HX? For gaming workloads and for productivity workloads? Its awesome, but the Razer Blade 18 has similar technical specifications to the Titan 18 HX with a vastly superior OLED display, Thunderbolt 5, 200 HZ 4K, and can still get 98 GB DDR5. I slightly prefer the Razer Blade 18 IMO.
Also, this laptop is absolutely great, well worth the price only if you can afford it (as is the Razer Blade 18 and M3 Max Macbook Pro) but is absolutely nothing compared to a true desktop workstation full tower PC, not even remotely close.
Tbh there is a counter argument against desktops, especially relatable to students. Portability of this, basically PC replacement is actually worth mentioning, especially if you want to come to a friend with a laptop, especially a laptop like this. Even considering it has a cut-down RTX 4090, 24 TB of storage, 192 GB memory and so on, you can take it just anywhere you want. If you are on vacation and you want to play Cyberpunk, no problem, you can take this laptop and play it anyway on ultras.
If it works and does what you need it to do then yes , I showed em what a shared single fan i5/4050 45watt could do and scale up 2x 4x 8x
I literally cannot see any proper use case for this. A similar desktop would be half the price.
Some are looking to get rid of the non mobile Desktop forever but want the power of one on the go. But you are right, the cost is prohibited.
Portability and the convenience of having an all in one system if you are willing to pay the price
Personally i'm looking to buy this one because i'm going to be doing a game art study (which is at a campus and has to be portable), so need a load of power. The study hasn't specified yet what the expected power is supposed to be of the laptop but i want one that is absolutely not going to give me bs while i'm trying to work in blender or unity. Might as well go for a higher end to get the best of all.
Its a vjs wet dream.All that ram is very handy for on the go editing in after effects and other programs.
Some of us travel for work and have extreme commercial video or image editing needs. This machine fits the bill and we don't care about price. We'll use it for 3 years and toss it for another $6k laptop.
Sounds like a high price until you see how much it costs to build the desktop equivalent. I have almost the same stuff in mine and it was about the same price.
Heyoo 😊
don't forget about that you save in average of 400 watts, so it means you will be saving 2500 $ + in 5 years of usage
@@SemFronteirass omgg g-Heyoo 😍
Just want to say glad you are back.
My Ryzen 7 7800X3D and RX 7900 XT live reaction: 💀
Jokes on you I don't have a PC, I have a shit laptop.
My laptop's design is real nice, looks nicer than the more expensive options plus more than enough power. Predator helios neo 16, nice metal lid, familiar design coming from an acer nitro, 100 watt hour battery, raptor lake HX processor Ada lovelace GPU, metal lid, etc
I prefer desktops honestly, and I love laptops.
I have always wanted to ask someone: Why is it that we can get all this incredible hardware into a laptop, but no one makes all in one gaming pcs (the pc inside a monitor build) with the same specs but with a much bigger screen? I know not relevant to this video. My apologies. Just curious
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Getting way more power in the palm of your back sounds likes it ends painfully .
I think it still has some flaws like the not fully mechanical keyboard and a to small battery for this kind of power-hungry device (even tough its the max to take on a plane) and the fact that the ram is capped at 3600Mhz when using all 4 slots and i miss G-Sync (let me know if there is G-sync, I could have just missed it). There should be no compromises like this for that price.
The trackpad also appears to be buggy but i don't really see this as a problem because your mostly gonna use a mouse anyway.
Gysnc exists if you put an external monitor, tbh, the main lcd is not that "great", you will be missing alot if you dont plug into a lg c2 evo or better
I almost brought this thing. But the fact it doesn't have G-Sync was a big deal.
Nice a Cooktop Laptop!
The MSI Titan is a super powerful no compromises mobile gaming juggernaut on the go! I don't need this much performance since the last gen Raider GE78HX 17inch13950HX/32/RTX 4080 is more than half price and perfect for my needs. I absolutely appreciate the customizable advanced bios/UEFI features MSI gives us. MSI has a well engineered chassis with decent powerful cooling. (Recommend a cooling pad) I personally would get a discounted 13 gen intel i9 version since the performance is identical between them. Thanks UFD Tech for showcasing this. Cheers!
I would redo the title it comes close but not destroying the desktop.
Crazy if money was no option.
Mine is a MSI Titan GT77HX 13VI UHD 144Hz 2.2 GHz i9-13980HX RTX 4090 192 GB DDR5 RAM 8 TB PCIe SSD Windows 11 Pro...
8:08 love the Kung Pow reference 😂
Great video, Brett. That thing is a honking monster…. I mean I should probably think about putting in 192gb of ram in my rig… or get this. I like it!
Great review, but please, do not open the display pulling it up on one side, always in the middle when using one hand....it hurts me seeing this - I know cuz I made the same mistake a long time ago with one of my laptops, and the bracket finally broke ;-)
3:46 Brett please don't ignore it, that laptop got sum junk n da trunk! sheesh, das alot of metal! glhf fam
*a lot
"alot" isn't a word
Is it worthy to upgrade all their features to 192 Ram and 8tb storage for heavy software and video gaming?
Is it possible to order without OS?
I just don't want to pay for something, I'm not gonna use. I would like to use it with linux.
Its gonna be expensive as shit anyway might as well pay for windows as shitty as windows is and I am sure laptop companies already pay for the Microsoft license themselves or have a contract with Microsoft.
@@JsjdjJhdjd
And why is that a good thing?
Even you said, windows is shitty, so why you want something shitty?
And if companies try to sell their expensive products with shitty things, less people will buy those products. At the end of the day, supply and demand will determine the product's fate.
Sorry, I don't like the victim-mentality.
Also, I would like to provide solution.
Sell it with windows and any popular linux distribution from distrowatch. (Examples: Debian based: MX Linux / Linux Mint / Ubuntu | Arch based: Manjaro / EndeavourOS | Independent: Fedore / OpenSUSE.) That would be fair to everyone, gives a choice to the customer and the company would maximize sales.
Would you agree?
@Cynthia_Hrtvksn never said its a good thing I always wanted companies to ship linux with their laptops or atleast have an option to do so alot of people will use Linux more people will realise how good it is its good for me the linux user its good for the company not needing to buy windows licensing its good for the developers.
@@JsjdjJhdjd Agreed.
@@Cynthia_Hrtvksn msi software is made for windows, thats why its not shipped with linux
Dont know why soooo much people hating about this laptop. You dont need to buy it, if you´re everyday at home. But a lot of guys, me included as a service engineer, are away from home more than 70% of the time. I thinking about pilots, truck driver or oil rig worker,ect.. We realy like powerfull gaming laptops with big screens. I dont wanna game on a 15" screen for the time im in china, for example.( i´m in china right know since 1st of august)
I'm always in home most of time, but Im planning to travel, this notebook will suit me well
I think a desktop 4080 would be a better comparison no? Both are 16gb and closer in other specs including lower power and lower cuda count.
Or even at 4070ti super. I think those are identical.
bro was already playing Witcher 3 on desktop, Goated Game ❤
Titan 18 HX A14VIG Model segment has Metal build chassis and top cover?
It's an amazing laptop at the right price... even at the 4k super sale price it's still 1k too much but at least it does have it's niche with the increased power it can deliver to the gpu and cpu plus the extra storage.
This laptop costs double what my shitty 2008 suzuki swift cost me. Wtf. Edit: imo, it would be better spending 1,500 on a laptop and the rest on a desktop. You dont need that much power in a laptop
It's really pricey but I'm talking from poverty, because having the money we all would want something like this in it travel backpacks
Look for promo, I live in brazil and found a good price in one that a guy brought from usa
I'm planning on a build for unreal engine with 256 gbs ram, prolly only 4800mts, 5090, and whatever MOBO that supports it. next gen noctua 8 pipe cpu cooler, next gen noctua fans all blacked out, Next gen dark hero? maybe MSI MOBO cuz they list QVL ram compatibility and update bios quicker, 6 months hurry up! lol keep your laptop. that would cost the same price! still respect the grind Sir UFD Tech.
Crazy specs but no thunderbolt 5, the razer 18 has thunderbolt 5
7900XTX > 4090 Mobile
7800X3D > 14900HX
Sooo... title debunked. I mean it's pretty impressive for a laptop but laptops will never surpass a full blown PC.
above 60 fps is ok your desktop is outrun since you cannot use it at macdonalds or in an airport this laptop is they key to mobility and freedom . what do you want to do with 200 fps anyway ?
*You want fries with that!?*
I am a simple man. I hear a Kung Pow: Enter the Fist reference and you automatically get a thumbs up and a comment!
My top spec pc cost less than half the price of this and probably gets twice the performance on account of the fact that it doesnt thermal throttle the second i put any sort of load on it
Whats up with these big laptops all having num pads? That kills it for me as no thansk for having to have hand placement shifted left, and generally those specs seem best for just running a bunch of virtual machines for labs. I genuinely wonder how good the speaker quality for music is vs a macbook pro as thats the consumer gold standard.
I own one since two months and its really a beast.
Laptop rtx 4090 is really just a desktop rtx 4080
Still not a bad thing tho
yes and no.
rtx 4090 is a rtx 4080 on laptop
rtx 4080 is rtx 4070 on laptop
but rtx 4080 laptop is NOT rtx 3090 on desktop, its better have better technologies, updated rtx and DLSS, so it gets more performance
I wonder about the oerformance difference from a 7945x3d laptop.
Like the RGB Touchpad, it looks so cool
Bottom panel is it made by plastic?
It shouldn't be a 4k panel. 1600p at best to help with performance.
but 4K is good for productivity
Its a 4090 with 16GB of Vram instead of 24. Yet they are not shy if charging the full price of the GPU and then some.
Also 5600 MT/s on the ram in a $5k PC? No that should be 6600MT/s for that price
$5400 laptop and he just casually flicks the screen shut! My corn hole just winked as my hands clinched shut!
As that 4090 performs like a starved 4080 it’s not even close
Welcome to thermal throttle city, where we go on all day long.
Mobile Rtx 4090 running at 175w 😂 my desktop 4090 eats this for lunch...
Great video! Cheers
Actually no… because the 4090 mobile is like a 3090 ti desktop compared with my 4090 desktop xD
It destroys my monitor tho… haha
we get it... you play your games at 4k 60, but 4k is the res for people who sit 2 inches from their monitor, 1440p is all you need
@@adamelghalmi9771I have above 20/20 vision and can absolutely tell the difference between 4k and 1440p at a normal desk distance. My PC struggles to run 4k sometimes though, which sucks 😂
Also for the original comment, the 4090 mobile is closer to a 4060 or 3070 than a 3090.
@@zues121510 I have 18/20 and I can’t tell the difference, and don’t really care much since I prefer to play ultra 1440 at a higher refresh rate anyway
@@zues121510 but it’s just my personal preference, you do you
Bruh, you're Gordon Ramsay of the laptops!
128 ddr5 ram is useless, i9 14900hx will bottleneck the 4090 mobile so the 4090 mobile will be only be used a 92% of its power, a 4090 mobile is a desktop 4080 and an i9 14900hx will bottleneck any gpu exept the desktop 4090
nah..
Getting used to the awkward Track pad... PROBLEM! Tis model wont recognize my 4TB M.2 card that I put into the 3rd M.2 slot... what should I do?!
@@meibesmurfn3168 i HAVE 4X 2TB cards that all work perfectly... this is a State of the art i9/RX4090 MSI Titan Laptop... it should have no compatibility problem with any M.2 cards...
With that cpu it also destroys itself.
i had that two bricks laptop , i returned it as it was impractical to travel with it
If the laptop has the same cores and vram as a 4080 and then calls it a 4090, how isn't this the same as the 4080 12 gig that was rebranded to the 4070 ti?
And keep in mind the desktop can pull nearly double the frames of this laptop. This laptop performance gaming wise is slightly better than a 4070ti dektop for about $5400.
consider that the i9-14900HX and the Laptop 4090 with thermals taken into account is around the speed of an i5-14600K and a 4070 SUPER. MSI wants 5000 USD for this laptop by the way. You could just build a Mini ITX PC for 2500.
is that rgb gimmicks compatible with Linux at all?
The problem with this laptop is a hot Intel processor instead of Ryzen 9 7945HX3D, that will be available soon.
Yes, it is the PC of my dreams.
Msi titan vs framework 16?
Give it time. Way to go MSI
They don't compete for the same customers at all though.
I find it how this has a massive 99.9Watt hour battery, it's the largest you can legally have on an airplane but at full power it will barely last 20 minutes at 270 watts 😂
you can have a external power bank, powering it for more juice with usb c, y ou can buy maybe a 200watt hour powerbank, and have 8 hours of battery
@SemFronteirass that works but that will make the total laptop weight even heavier on top of a heavy charger. The whole point of increasing your battery life is to make it last longer away from a plug, but if it's too heavy there's no point in taking it most places with you and also you can't take a 200wh battery on an airplane.
Also many power banks do not charge your devices quick enough, so the laptop will probably die before the power bank is used up and the power bank might turn off because the charger is pulling more power than it is rated for. You can decrease the power limit to below your power bank's output wattage but then, what's the point? You can get a lighter laptop that performs the same at that reduced wattage and costs much less.
Overall it's better to just use this kinda stuff from the plug and at most take it around your house or to a friend's place for a LAN party or whatever, always bringing the cord.
@@zues121510 "Also many power banks do not charge your devices quick enough" There is several power banks that provide power above 100watts. so its not a issue.
" laptop weight even heavier " I disagree, because its either you bring powerbank (which can be charged on power plug as well) or your bring your laptop PSU, which will be mostly same weight.
"You can get a lighter laptop " if you look at benchmarks, you will see that lighter laptops perform much worse and have bad frame rates, including 1%, I think you mean the galaxy ultras and I have researched alot, a galaxy ultra book with rtx 4070 performs like a rtx 4050, very very bad, also the cpu performs way worse, and there is no MUX switch. If you cap the power limit of msi ge78 to the same of galaxy book ultra you will get same results in battery but with a better performance because rtx 4080 have more cores and the notebook have better cooling.
I still think that getting a powerbank is better if you need more juice.
Also the limit on 100wh in notebook batteries is due to regulation
@@zues121510 watch?v=SU8FKCaWHuI
in this video you can see UGREEN 300watts, with 153 kwh, so you will extend your laptop in atleast 100wh+
you can get 8 hours that way pretty easy :) and you can fit in your bag no prob
3:40 " 4 tuah hawk speakers"
Great sound, this laptop has the worse sound in existence, I had it and I had to return it because of that
I have this model... love the screen, runs everything in maximum settings... BUT, FRICKEN HATE THE TOUCHPAD!!!
dear brother i want to buy how can i buy?
To much ram 128 is over kill and you could make a desktop as good or better for the same or less
Complex simulations and database of boy things you could do with this thing
I hate having to compromise between utility and functionality and pure joy. Our tools limit us not the other way around
All that and it can't have a deckedout 1080p60 webcam, in case you wanna stream or something.
Right, because there's no such thing as a separate webcam.
"i have never put that much ram in my PCs"
Yeah, cuz its complete overkill and a waste of money. Especially if all four slots are in use
I don't care what anyone says. The beefiest laptop will NEVER outpower the beefiest desktop.
Great review 🇿🇦🇿🇦
If it was priced at $4500 or $4000 yes but $6500 in most markets? And what?
this is the ONLY positive review on this laptop I have seen.....
Not a review, it's a sponsored video. If it was ever mentioned or stated to be one, let alone suggested any kind of rating or opinion referring to this as being worth the money or a review, then that'd be a serious issue. You can't give a positive review on a sponsored video, it's illegal last I checked. (He can state that he personally likes it but suggesting that others should buy it is a different story, telling someone to "check it out" isn't a suggestion to purchase something for example.)
So yeah, that's why.
@@mitrikgaduk347exactly mhe actually had to gimp the desktop to make the laptop look better. This dude is a complete shill
they sponsored me to, MSI doesnt force you to say anything, I have worked with them multiple times. Its sad to see uifd go down the lyers path tbh, ive watched him for a while now @@mitrikgaduk347
I just hate the idea of gaming laptops. They break too much, and you cant work on them yourself at all. Id rather have a Chromebook tbh, the cheapest possible laptop I can buy. I save my money for the home PC.
This laptop isn’t gonna be destroying anythijg after a few months with that 14900XS (I’m assuming they have similar issues as the other 14900 Intel CPUs)
still have the 980m sli version
Laptop can be beast of wonders.. BUT 5k for laptop... I cant even see any reason to own it!
Who is this even made for? that is wayy too much performance
very specific customer base
@@T90MT maybe even too spesific
Me .
As a person with vision problems, this is awesome. The last laptop I had was a 18-in monitor and that was maybe 7 or 8 years ago. As a computer software programmer I have been waiting for this for so long. When they went down from 18 in the last time it was said that nobody would ever need something like this.
As much power as they can possibly get while still being portable.
@@Wyld1one congratulations best luck to you with your new baby, i need that in desktop form first, then it'll be worth it down the road. game developing UE5 from anywhere sounds nice. even if battery will suck. + gaming at max settings.
Why don't they have amd flagships? The CPU power draw and thermals for Intel make high performance last about as long as my first time with your mom.. it makes no sense
Cause AMD is the equivalent of the price match and coupon looking type that was left in the bar after his momma was already scooped up by you with beer goggles.
The laptop that one kid who wants to "run" Fortnite on it wants for his homework:
4090m=4070IT ONLY, how can it beat my desktop which it has 7950x+192gb+4090?
$5400
There must be literally dozens of people willing to buy this.
You know what else this thing destroys. Your wallet with its price
And the universe with the heat it produces
If someone buys this laptop for just gaming has more money than brains.
Ugh laptops... Yes it's good now, later they become e-waste because you can't upgrade.
Mac daddy of laptops 😂
Quite impressive; however, why do they always skimp on HD space. Duh! for this class they could have bought a bunch of 4TB gen 4 M2 drives on black friday to populate these bad boys with 1 4TB to start with for $150.
half of the amount can destroy this
does it have a mat display and not the crap glossy one so you can use it in sunlight outside ?