Very beautiful! The big bell already has a symbolic name: Hosanna. Then other bells enter, as if they announce the rush of Mary and her other 5 friends to witness the resurrection of Christ.
I don't mean to be a pain, but this bell's clapper is designed for swing chiming. The counter balance slows down the swing time, yet it increases the impact on the bell's soundbow; and the higher up the bell goes, the heavier the clapper's impact.You can also see the clapper resting on the soundbow somewhat, muting the bell in the up position. It is well known that when leaf springs on drop hammers loose their rigidity, the hammer resting on the bell during chiming causes cracks up the soundbow. I would love to ring up something that big, but I wouldn't want to damage such a wonderful bell.
This is not normal operating procedure with this bell. With reference to the counter-balance increasing the impact I suspect there are a number of European bell-hangers who would argue that point - that is with 'flying' clappers not 'falling' clappers. The clapper resting on the soundbow is somewhat irrelevant considering the action of the clapper in a normal change-ringing bell. The cracking of bells by clock hammers with failed springs is not common - it does happen but considering the number of bells that have survived very many years with failed return springs I would suggest that is only part of the cause when a bell becomes cracked. That doesn't mean such a situation should be ignored - far from it! I get quite annoyed by clock hammers resting on bells.
ProfMoose incidentally if it were to have the equipment to go full circle. i.e stays and slider equipment. how big would this kit need to be. and am i right in thinking that Liverpool Anglican has the biggest full circle bell? how does hosanna compare to this?
Putting a stay on a big slow swinger like Hosanna would be interesting... To adapt Hosanna would require a very short stay or possibly some arrangement with a pendulum slider... Not sure I'd want to test it. If you say Liverpool tenor is the largest full-circle ringing bell people get all stroppy and say there are larger in Italy. I'll say it is the largest bell designed and hung for change-ringing in the English tradition. I bet someone still bleats on Italy... Hosanna is about 3.5 tons heavier than Emmanuel (Liverpool Tenor). I expect some pedant will want to correct that to umpteen decimal places too.
ProfMoose thanks for the answer profmoose. yeah the Italians from what i can gather go beyond full circle and their bells might drag the odd peroni drinker up the tower. have you got any footage of being amongst the bells when they're down? i.e for human comparison beneath hosanna? many thanks in advance if you do.
Next you will want a stay and a slider for it. Lol. Really nice sounding bell as is Great Peter. Pity Great Paul doesnt ring any more. Seen it twice? Once in 1963 when I was 10. it was manually rang back then. In 2000 got to see and video it ringing. I seem to have the only video on youttue of it ringing.
Well, this bell which is tenor here is actually smallest in Riverside church, and this bell which is bourdon here is actually second bell of Riverside Church. Actually, quite cool in this case. And also, swinging angle is much smaller in Riverside Church
if Hosanna had a stay, slide(?), more people ringing it, and a change ringing clapper, the world will have it's VERY FIRST change ringing bourdon bell.
amazing bell the hossana bell have amazing sound and sound like a 10ton bell like the german bells but its amazing how can this big bell swing like a full circle bell like in my country spain but its amazing this bell grettings from spain profmoose
Hi! I'm italian and bells are my passion, so what's the weight of hosanna?she looks very big, and where is this curchbell and is it possibile to go up?
@@ProfMoose wow, all i know is if you overpull a smaller bell set for change ringing you break the stay and may find yourself upside down and in bell room yourself
So if this were made into a change ringing bell how tall would the box the ringer would stand on since the wheel is so large? Also when you rung this did all the rope just pile onto the floor and did it feel like ringing a normal bell?
Good questions which won't be answered by practical experiment! Sorry about that. The rope just piled up on the floor. The odd thing was we had absolutely no idea Hosanna was so high. He was actually higher than it looks in the video. Caused a bit of a panic in the bell chamber and a mad rush down stairs. Took a while to convince those ringing him that there was a rapidly approaching danger of him going over the balance. It was an event we don't want repeated.
There doesn't seem to be any reason why the bell would be damaged; just likely the rope would come out of the ringing room as was stated, the bell might take a few minutes to settle down (!) but it doesn't seem as if anything would be damaged too badly, it would just go through a full rotation and eventually stop. The rope would just need to be moved back into place and down the hole, and ringing could continue.
wow and wouldn't swinging a bell that large be putting strain on the baring or the mouth of the bell with the impact of the smacker as i am not sure what there called :) and i have also subscribed
Hopefully everything was designed with good safety margins. Hosanna was designed to be swung but not that high. The correct name for the smacker is a clapper. :-)
Profmoose: next time you do vid in buckfast Abbey can you put the camera in the middle not the corner? (Like that other vid you made called "Buckfast Abbey with solo by hossana?) Thanks in advance
@AaronB 24034 No. Change ringing bells have stays to allow them to rest in the 'up' position. If the bell goes over the ringer lets go of the rope. Stays are designed to break if subject to undue force.
10 years between videos and two very different cameras... Hosanna has developed a brown stripe around his waist which does not always show depending on the light. Apart from that he's really grey with a hint of green.
He has an electric hammer which I guess the monks use for the Consecration during the Mass but I don't really know how they use him. He gets swung on special occasions when we are asked to ring the others.
is that like not dangerous ? what if the bell suddenly caused the frame + tower to weeken couldnt they get sacked for the behavior or suffer dedly problems like wat of the bell berings gave way and broke off during the big swings
The frame and fittings are very much over engineered to give a good safety margin and the frame is designed in such a way the bell cannot fall through it.
It's scary because it's big but from an engineering view it's fairly simple to manage. Jet engines have to cope with far higher stresses for a lot longer - they also cost a lot more... ;-)
Hosanna is a very naughty bell! He was never supposed to go that high. We were very lucky something bad didn't happen. I blame the ringers - you know who you are!! :-) We've altered things to discourage anymore crazy upside down ringing.
I have a nasty feeling that it is that creep Harry McAndrew again. The one behind Amelia Violet, Oliviah Maccolng, Olivia Alwen, Lilly Louise, Anna Powell and countless others.
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Helped ring that bloody thing up. Wow that killed me LOL
You had a lot of muscle aches from ringing that heavy bell high, huh.
Very impressive!!! Hosanna goes as high as some church bells in South Tyrol put on straight yokes. :D
Watching this is addictive.
Very beautiful! The big bell already has a symbolic name: Hosanna. Then other bells enter, as if they announce the rush of Mary and her other 5 friends to witness the resurrection of Christ.
This reminds me a lot of great paul(another Bourdon bell)
I’m also imagining hosanna upside down like the other bells
I don't mean to be a pain, but this bell's clapper is designed for swing chiming. The counter balance slows down the swing time, yet it increases the impact on the bell's soundbow; and the higher up the bell goes, the heavier the clapper's impact.You can also see the clapper resting on the soundbow somewhat, muting the bell in the up position. It is well known that when leaf springs on drop hammers loose their rigidity, the hammer resting on the bell during chiming causes cracks up the soundbow. I would love to ring up something that big, but I wouldn't want to damage such a wonderful bell.
This is not normal operating procedure with this bell.
With reference to the counter-balance increasing the impact I suspect there are a number of European bell-hangers who would argue that point - that is with 'flying' clappers not 'falling' clappers.
The clapper resting on the soundbow is somewhat irrelevant considering the action of the clapper in a normal change-ringing bell. The cracking of bells by clock hammers with failed springs is not common - it does happen but considering the number of bells that have survived very many years with failed return springs I would suggest that is only part of the cause when a bell becomes cracked. That doesn't mean such a situation should be ignored - far from it! I get quite annoyed by clock hammers resting on bells.
ProfMoose incidentally if it were to have the equipment to go full circle. i.e stays and slider equipment. how big would this kit need to be. and am i right in thinking that Liverpool Anglican has the biggest full circle bell? how does hosanna compare to this?
Putting a stay on a big slow swinger like Hosanna would be interesting... To adapt Hosanna would require a very short stay or possibly some arrangement with a pendulum slider... Not sure I'd want to test it.
If you say Liverpool tenor is the largest full-circle ringing bell people get all stroppy and say there are larger in Italy. I'll say it is the largest bell designed and hung for change-ringing in the English tradition. I bet someone still bleats on Italy...
Hosanna is about 3.5 tons heavier than Emmanuel (Liverpool Tenor). I expect some pedant will want to correct that to umpteen decimal places too.
ProfMoose thanks for the answer profmoose. yeah the Italians from what i can gather go beyond full circle and their bells might drag the odd peroni drinker up the tower.
have you got any footage of being amongst the bells when they're down? i.e for human comparison beneath hosanna? many thanks in advance if you do.
from what i can see the clapper is bouncing off the bow?
Dose anyone love it
I love the bold sound of that bourdon bell.
I remember when I saw this 4 years ago... And UA-cam reccomended me this again 😂
The big bell is so high!Like going so high!
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It’s like hosanna is telling a story to her children bells
1:13
Mary, Robert, Michael, Gabriel, Raphael and Benedict: **Shouts encouragement**
3:03 6 bells : Lol hosaana ii is like noisy *seriosly laughs and making fun of him*
Next you will want a stay and a slider for it. Lol.
Really nice sounding bell as is Great Peter.
Pity Great Paul doesnt ring any more.
Seen it twice?
Once in 1963 when I was 10. it was manually rang back then.
In 2000 got to see and video it ringing.
I seem to have the only video on youttue of it ringing.
I remember watching that video years back. Britain should really try to get Great Paul back to ringing status...
Hosanna doing her exercises
The tenor and bourdon remind me of Riverside Church in nyc.
Well, this bell which is tenor here is actually smallest in Riverside church, and this bell which is bourdon here is actually second bell of Riverside Church. Actually, quite cool in this case. And also, swinging angle is much smaller in Riverside Church
@@zvonazgnadbiskupije1094 the second biggest bell in the riverside church sounds like hosanna like literally
stay and slider and you got yourself a world record breaker
if Hosanna had a stay, slide(?), more people ringing it, and a change ringing clapper, the world will have it's VERY FIRST change ringing bourdon bell.
Actually tong has a bourdon hung for change ringing 46cwt in C
This giant monster needs so many power to ring. Seriously how many people ring this bell together?
Usually just one.
Ok but the guy who rings this bell maybe is very strong.
Well your not wrong.
Maybe bro just so strong that he was hired to be a bellringer.
@@djmario2381I'd imagine once it gets going most of the work is done by the bell's own weight.
I like how the clapper actually bumps the bell forward a bit..
It's a big heavy old clapper!
And its a red one too.
@@ProfMoose what about all the bells ringing
amazing bell the hossana bell have amazing sound and sound like a 10ton bell like the german bells but its amazing how can this big bell swing like a full circle bell like in my country spain but its amazing this bell grettings from spain profmoose
Hello ProfMoose , the footages about Hosanna, are very good. On wich days ringing the Hosanna?😊. Because Hosanna is my favourite Bell. Best whishes. 😊
WOW!!!!!
Great, encourage everyone around you to initiate a ringing action that
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holy cow that bell looks like it was gonna flip
Lol it had metal stay
Michaelthehoneyvlog It doesn’t have a metal stay or any stay at all
Michaelthehoneyvlog no it didn’t hosanna doesn’t have a stay
That’s the way the bell rings
Hi! I'm italian and bells are my passion, so what's the weight of hosanna?she looks very big, and where is this curchbell and is it possibile to go up?
Hosanna weighs 7.5 tons and is located at buckfast abbey
Whoever rung the bell is muscle ripped
Because Hosanna is one of the biggest and heavy bells in the UK.
So was this a "because we can moment" or was it a challenge/dare?
It was more of an accident. We had no idea how high Hosanna was until we got up there - it was a bit of a shock.
@@ProfMoose wait so you were going ring him like normal, but then he went up that high?
@@JesusTilapia Pretty much. Guessed he was a bit higher than normal, went upstairs and he was upside down.! Very scary.
@@ProfMoose wow, all i know is if you overpull a smaller bell set for change ringing you break the stay and may find yourself upside down and in bell room yourself
@@ProfMoose wait, *UPSIDE DOWN* wow, i did not know they can stop in the up position and stay that way without a stay
Hosanna III - Bourdon bell goes over on itself.
Fortunately no. We've stopped Hosanna doing that crazy upside down ringing - far too scary! :-)
ProfMoose Thank goodness. I'd hate for such a beautiful sounding bell to be damaged performing such a stunt.
That Another bourdon bell sound very similar to Riverside NYC
Amazing
1:15 Mary and her five friends shout encouragement
So if this were made into a change ringing bell how tall would the box the ringer would stand on since the wheel is so large? Also when you rung this did all the rope just pile onto the floor and did it feel like ringing a normal bell?
Good questions which won't be answered by practical experiment! Sorry about that.
The rope just piled up on the floor. The odd thing was we had absolutely no idea Hosanna was so high. He was actually higher than it looks in the video. Caused a bit of a panic in the bell chamber and a mad rush down stairs. Took a while to convince those ringing him that there was a rapidly approaching danger of him going over the balance. It was an event we don't want repeated.
If the bell did turn full circle, what would happen next? Would it continue to turn that way?
There is no stay so i dont really know what will happen
The rope would go into the belfry and probably the bell will be damaged
There doesn't seem to be any reason why the bell would be damaged; just likely the rope would come out of the ringing room as was stated, the bell might take a few minutes to settle down (!) but it doesn't seem as if anything would be damaged too badly, it would just go through a full rotation and eventually stop. The rope would just need to be moved back into place and down the hole, and ringing could continue.
wow and wouldn't swinging a bell that large be putting strain on the baring or the mouth of the bell with the impact of the smacker as i am not sure what there called :) and i have also subscribed
Hopefully everything was designed with good safety margins. Hosanna was designed to be swung but not that high. The correct name for the smacker is a clapper. :-)
oh ok i just didnt know if it was smacker or clapper so i referd to it as smacker :)
Smacker is certainly more descriptive :-D
true lol as i thaught the clapper was a smacker as it does seem to smack against it :)
@@lillylouise5353 Exactly XD/XD
3:10 mary and hosanna did a sync
Literally EVERONE watching:
GO GO GO GO ALMOST TEHR YOU CAN DO IT!!
it sounds like big ben
No it doesn't.
at 0:01
@@sirenhead666woyeah
No it doesnt not even close
@@sirenhead666woIt doesn't sound like big ben
Where Is This At.
Buckfast Abbey, Devon, UK.
PROFMOOSE : by that the drone was The bourdon ?
Yes
YOU KNOW UP TO WHAT HEIGHT CAN GO A Bourdon?
Profmoose: next time you do vid in buckfast Abbey can you put the camera in the middle not the corner? (Like that other vid you made called "Buckfast Abbey with solo by hossana?) Thanks in advance
Funny you should say that... The plan is centre on wheel side and hopefully a low level video too.
You'll have the opportunity to film Hosanna like that next week ;^)
It also looks like it would be hung for full circle
what would happen if it was in the upside-down position and it went in a complete circle?
That's a good question. Not sure I want to find out. Clapper motion might be interesting...
@AaronB 24034 No. Change ringing bells have stays to allow them to rest in the 'up' position. If the bell goes over the ringer lets go of the rope. Stays are designed to break if subject to undue force.
@AaronB 24034 Hosanna is not a change ringing bell.
The rope would shoot through the ceiling.
What happens if the bourdon bell does a 360°?
Usually, that can't happen because it IS a bourdon
1st Video Color:Green
Now Color: Brown
Thats a long way
10 years between videos and two very different cameras...
Hosanna has developed a brown stripe around his waist which does not always show depending on the light. Apart from that he's really grey with a hint of green.
ProfMoose Does Hosanna ring by the hour?
Or he has a schedule on ringing?
He has an electric hammer which I guess the monks use for the Consecration during the Mass but I don't really know how they use him. He gets swung on special occasions when we are asked to ring the others.
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lol the clapper couterweight can be seen
Bell pepper anyone
Are tihs the nella of Buckfast Abbey ?
Is it possible to flip the bell the whole way or is something blocking it?
Yes it is possible but we have taken steps to help prevent it. We were all very shocked and a little frightened when we saw how high Hosanna was,
@@ProfMoose it would have been bad if the clapper just randomly gave up on life when they he was so high
is that like not dangerous ? what if the bell suddenly caused the frame + tower to weeken couldnt they get sacked for the behavior or suffer dedly problems like wat of the bell berings gave way and broke off during the big swings
The frame and fittings are very much over engineered to give a good safety margin and the frame is designed in such a way the bell cannot fall through it.
oh i just ththaught bc of the big bell swining that hard the berings would exspode under strain
It's scary because it's big but from an engineering view it's fairly simple to manage. Jet engines have to cope with far higher stresses for a lot longer - they also cost a lot more... ;-)
but doent the bells sound bow have to cope with the hight impact from the clapper??
it has a strong headstock
it goes 5 meters in the air
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It said Mary and her five friends shouting encouragement but six of them are shouting in Encouragement
Mary + 5 = ?
@@dylanthomas3882 6 Douchebag Lords? Lol.
5:01 Clapper Bounce
5:48 highest have it gone?
6:06
Where is this bell?
Buckfast Abbey in Devon UK
Why doesn’t Hosanna have a stay and slider like the others
Hosanna is a very naughty bell! He was never supposed to go that high. We were very lucky something bad didn't happen. I blame the ringers - you know who you are!! :-)
We've altered things to discourage anymore crazy upside down ringing.
hosanna peaks at 3:22
ALONG WITH HOSANNA RINGS THE BACK 6
Do you really have to state the blindingly obvious on each and every video you come across, Harry McAndrew?
I have a nasty feeling that it is that creep Harry McAndrew again. The one behind Amelia Violet, Oliviah Maccolng, Olivia Alwen, Lilly Louise, Anna Powell and countless others.
Oh just shut up. (Not you jake!)
Shut up nikos you are the most annoying obvious stater ever you just think you’re hard but you’re not so back off nikos
@@kyletheringersarcaderings7751 he’s in lift videos bus videos all sorts of videos you can’t get away from the guy
I bet if you tie the clapper it'll go all the way up, and probably right over.....!
this is scary
profmoose : Where were made This five bells?
John Taylors & Co, Loughborough 1935
OK THANK YOU
6:06 the highest
Rip headphone users
This boockfast Abbey big bell
one of the heaviest bells in uk
Shut up obvious stater nikos
1:15 Back 6
Hosanna va trop haut elle est pas équipée pour faire le change ringing
Ah oui. Mais elle peut être sympa si elle travaille comme
ça non ?
Like in South Tyrol 😅
6 frends
Which one is Mary?
The one on the right.
@@ProfMoose so the biggest one of all the bells that are surrounding Hosanna.
@@JesusTilapia Yes.
@@ProfMoose does every Bell in the Belfry have a name?
@@JesusTilapia Yes - George, Paul, Peter, Thomas of Canterbury, Gregory, Veronica, Boniface, Bernard, Benedict, Raphael, Gabriel, Michael, Robert. Mary and Hosanna.
9:09
5:34 Hosaana ii : NO IM SERIOUS LIKE RACIST *GROWLS*