Thanks all, for the comments. Art, by it's nature, is subjective. With any interpretive art, some folks are blessed, others are not. That's OK! However, it is the heart of Christ that we try our best to understand what may be a blessing to others, and in that understanding, be blessed by THEIR blessing :) When my son was 3, he LOVED children's Christian sing-along cd's. I could take or leave them, but I received a HUGE blessing watching his enjoyment. Such is Corporate worship, sometimes.
@jazzlook Having said that, it is a MINOR point and not something to start a flame war over. I saw Mark do a variation on this presentation at Willow Arts Conference that same summer and it was even more brilliant and (more importantly) an incredible celebration of God the creator, Christ our redeemer, and a succinct and beautiful telling of the gospel story without words. And the music was devastatingly beautiful as well. Peace.
I understand the unique beauty of sand art transitions, and we made sure to leave those unobscured in the IMAG (and the video above). The only time there is a cutaway to the musicians is when the sand artist is simply throwing sand onto the lightbox or wiping it away. No cool transitions or "sand morphs" are taking place when you're enjoying the visual of the two musicians. Cheers!
That's what I thought. I actually like watching the artist transition from one image to the other when he/she is re-filling the sand. I actually think that is pretty neat when you go from one image to the next. Sorry my comments sounded rude. I would post both videos, one with and one without the musicians.
jmarlisav, thanks for your comment, I guess... :) One of the aspects of this piece that I really like is the use of live music, specifically composed for this performance. ON most sand art pieces I see, the music is recorded. The live music aspect was a challenge to pull off, and I credit the composers with doing a great job! The two musicians playing are members of our worship ministry and have their own website, touchthestrings dot com Blessings!
Frink14, thanks for the comment. Actually, when it cuts to the musicians, the artist is simply refilling the lightbox with sand. Live, the art was on the IMAG screens the entire time, with musicians center stage watching a monitor. This was hard to represent in a stand-alone video!
JSC, In reading your posts, I can now say (without malice!) that this offering in worship was not intended for you, or probably your church. For those for whom it was intended (our church), and for those who can appreciate a creative re-telling of God's marvelous act of creation as well as the amazing talents and gifts he gives his children, this act of worship-focused art was a real blessing. I fear you represent a person such as spoken of in Proverbs 26:21, and am ending my responses :)
The video you are seeing was NOT created for youtube or the web, but was for IMAG within a LARGE facility, as well as for an overflow video venue an CCTV. When watching one of these live video venues, it's very claustrophobic to have a LOT going on on the stage and ONLY see one static shot. The performance of the musicians was just as important to their experience as the visual art. All video cutaways were pre-planned and I can assure you NOTHING of note is happening when you see musicians.
Actually, when the two players are being shown, there is really nothing being done with the sand except clearing a previous drawing. Since this is the ONLY sand art on UA-cam done to live music, we thought it good to show both.
@jazzlook Perhaps MaxAgond shouldn't have stated it so bluntly. But I believe the point they were trying to make is that intercutting the musician images during the middle of this piece probably wasn't the best choice. The most important element of these type of sand art presentations is the transition from one image to the next. The "What could he possibly make from that?" aspect drives the whole thing. In this video, the musician images are OVER some of the transitions. It does detract from it
Thanks - Umm...what band? All I see is a classical guitarist and a cellist :~) If you'll notice, the musicians are only carefully faded in between artistic ideas being performed on the sand, or when he's either wiping the slate clean or adding sand. As this was being broadcast, the challenge was to show ALL of the performance, not just the sand art. I realize that to today's generation, recorded music (ie. lipsyncing) is as good as live, but we wanted to showcase REAL musicians as well :~)
"Where does the Bible say that?" Throughout the whole of it, at least in my bible, though "expressions of worship" may be a more accurate phrase. *Jesus, paul, Silas, disciples, etc. sang - Matthew 26:30, Acts 16:25 . * Through bowing or kneeling - Philippians 2:10-11 * Through clapping - Palm 47:1; Psalm 98:8; Isaiah 55:12 * Through the lifting of hands -1 Timothy 2:8 * Through Dancing - Psalm 149:3 Etc. I do agree that there are forms of worship which may be displeasing to God.
@JSC1401 Still not tracking with you... Are you saying it's great to use our artistic talents in worship, but make sure to keep it non-descript and mediocre so we are not somehow distracted by said talent? I understand the idea of distraction, but I'm thinking there is a subjective line between distracting and inspiring. I've always maintained that what is effective and acceptable with one church body MAY not be so with another. God allows for different forms of worship between believers.
@earlbarker ?? Are you saying I'm a bible thumper? If by basing my foundations on scripture I am a bible thuymper, then I stand justly accused :) If you're saying that in the video or conversations below, that I'm smacking folks on the head with the word, then I apologize for the impression I may be giving. Certainly not my intent.
Sorry... By your logic, we should forego ALL art, all aesthetic efforts to represent our faith, and just read the bible. While reading and acting on God's word is at the top of our priorities, God gave each of us gifts to use. God is a creative God! He is the AUTHOR of creativity! And...we are made in his image. To not exercise our creativity would not be obedient to his call to discipleship. The point is not the simplistic images, but the creative use of a unique medium to share our faith.
@TSOwca "nondescript and mediocre" are your words, not mine! Such judgements are of course subjective; we're not all professional art critics. A television programme is also distracting, but rarely inspirational, I'd say. "God allows for different forms of worship between believers." Where does the Bible say that? Certainly not in the 10 commandments given to Moses, or their reinterpretation for his contemporaries by Jesus.
3/5 because showing the people playing just makes the whole experience of the sand art, crap. I would take out the stupid fading in and out of the people playing and just stick with the sand art.
AMAZING ~ How touching that our God did all that!!! He IS Good!!!
Thanks all, for the comments.
Art, by it's nature, is subjective. With any interpretive art, some folks are blessed, others are not. That's OK! However, it is the heart of Christ that we try our best to understand what may be a blessing to others, and in that understanding, be blessed by THEIR blessing :) When my son was 3, he LOVED children's Christian sing-along cd's. I could take or leave them, but I received a HUGE blessing watching his enjoyment. Such is Corporate worship, sometimes.
We saw this at church this past Easter, AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!
such soothing music
@jazzlook Having said that, it is a MINOR point and not something to start a flame war over. I saw Mark do a variation on this presentation at Willow Arts Conference that same summer and it was even more brilliant and (more importantly) an incredible celebration of God the creator, Christ our redeemer, and a succinct and beautiful telling of the gospel story without words. And the music was devastatingly beautiful as well. Peace.
Thank you very much for your comments. You're effusive praise has lifted the spirits of everyone involved!
God Bless!
I understand the unique beauty of sand art transitions, and we made sure to leave those unobscured in the IMAG (and the video above). The only time there is a cutaway to the musicians is when the sand artist is simply throwing sand onto the lightbox or wiping it away. No cool transitions or "sand morphs" are taking place when you're enjoying the visual of the two musicians. Cheers!
nice....i love the last part
That's what I thought. I actually like watching the artist transition from one image to the other when he/she is re-filling the sand. I actually think that is pretty neat when you go from one image to the next. Sorry my comments sounded rude. I would post both videos, one with and one without the musicians.
im not much of a religious person but this is pretty awesome
jmarlisav, thanks for your comment, I guess... :)
One of the aspects of this piece that I really like is the use of live music, specifically composed for this performance. ON most sand art pieces I see, the music is recorded. The live music aspect was a challenge to pull off, and I credit the composers with doing a great job! The two musicians playing are members of our worship ministry and have their own website, touchthestrings dot com
Blessings!
Que lindo video
Oh, God, people--just knock it off and enjoy the art.
Frink14, thanks for the comment. Actually, when it cuts to the musicians, the artist is simply refilling the lightbox with sand. Live, the art was on the IMAG screens the entire time, with musicians center stage watching a monitor. This was hard to represent in a stand-alone video!
JSC,
In reading your posts, I can now say (without malice!) that this offering in worship was not intended for you, or probably your church. For those for whom it was intended (our church), and for those who can appreciate a creative re-telling of God's marvelous act of creation as well as the amazing talents and gifts he gives his children, this act of worship-focused art was a real blessing.
I fear you represent a person such as spoken of in Proverbs 26:21, and am ending my responses :)
OMG... i like
The video you are seeing was NOT created for youtube or the web, but was for IMAG within a LARGE facility, as well as for an overflow video venue an CCTV. When watching one of these live video venues, it's very claustrophobic to have a LOT going on on the stage and ONLY see one static shot. The performance of the musicians was just as important to their experience as the visual art. All video cutaways were pre-planned and I can assure you NOTHING of note is happening when you see musicians.
Actually, when the two players are being shown, there is really nothing being done with the sand except clearing a previous drawing. Since this is the ONLY sand art on UA-cam done to live music, we thought it good to show both.
....what makes beuty beutifull?
@jazzlook Perhaps MaxAgond shouldn't have stated it so bluntly. But I believe the point they were trying to make is that intercutting the musician images during the middle of this piece probably wasn't the best choice. The most important element of these type of sand art presentations is the transition from one image to the next. The "What could he possibly make from that?" aspect drives the whole thing. In this video, the musician images are OVER some of the transitions. It does detract from it
Great! Was it our church? If so, who in our church has the login
"Wranglerbutts"??
:~) :~) :~)
how i can try this
Thanks -
Umm...what band?
All I see is a classical guitarist and a cellist :~)
If you'll notice, the musicians are only carefully faded in between artistic ideas being performed on the sand, or when he's either wiping the slate clean or adding sand.
As this was being broadcast, the challenge was to show ALL of the performance, not just the sand art. I realize that to today's generation, recorded music (ie. lipsyncing) is as good as live, but we wanted to showcase REAL musicians as well :~)
@earlbarker
No worries, Dude, it's all good!
Thanks for the reply though - yours was a first!
Peace
Electric cello FTW
See what this does??
I've been dragged into being Earlbarkers accusation - a Bible Thumper! :)
Blessings to All!
"Where does the Bible say that?"
Throughout the whole of it, at least in my bible, though "expressions of worship" may be a more accurate phrase.
*Jesus, paul, Silas, disciples, etc. sang - Matthew 26:30, Acts 16:25 .
* Through bowing or kneeling - Philippians 2:10-11
* Through clapping - Palm 47:1; Psalm 98:8; Isaiah 55:12
* Through the lifting of hands -1 Timothy 2:8
* Through Dancing - Psalm 149:3
Etc.
I do agree that there are forms of worship which may be displeasing to God.
@TSOwca
Love one another with a pure heart, fervently" allows men, not God, to tolerate strange religious practices.
@JSC1401 Still not tracking with you...
Are you saying it's great to use our artistic talents in worship, but make sure to keep it non-descript and mediocre so we are not somehow distracted by said talent?
I understand the idea of distraction, but I'm thinking there is a subjective line between distracting and inspiring. I've always maintained that what is effective and acceptable with one church body MAY not be so with another. God allows for different forms of worship between believers.
@Edward7Isabella I don't even remember why I said that.
@earlbarker ??
Are you saying I'm a bible thumper? If by basing my foundations on scripture I am a bible thuymper, then I stand justly accused :)
If you're saying that in the video or conversations below, that I'm smacking folks on the head with the word, then I apologize for the impression I may be giving. Certainly not my intent.
Sorry...
By your logic, we should forego ALL art, all aesthetic efforts to represent our faith, and just read the bible. While reading and acting on God's word is at the top of our priorities, God gave each of us gifts to use. God is a creative God! He is the AUTHOR of creativity! And...we are made in his image. To not exercise our creativity would not be obedient to his call to discipleship.
The point is not the simplistic images, but the creative use of a unique medium to share our faith.
Sorry, Joely, I had to delete your last text response, as well as the other persons rather rude response.
if they show the orchesta at the mean time, we lose half of the sand art.
One thing or another.
@TSOwca
"nondescript and mediocre" are your words, not mine!
Such judgements are of course subjective; we're not all professional art critics.
A television programme is also distracting, but rarely inspirational, I'd say.
"God allows for different forms of worship between believers."
Where does the Bible say that?
Certainly not in the 10 commandments given to Moses, or their reinterpretation for his contemporaries by Jesus.
adobe
Accurate spelling perhaps?
the musicians should have been heard and not seen.
3/5 because showing the people playing just makes the whole experience of the sand art, crap. I would take out the stupid fading in and out of the people playing and just stick with the sand art.