For those who don't know, as of January 2020. The Union Pacific has retired 3985 a second time. Apparently due to the Locomotive being in very poor mechanical condition. I personally never got to see 3985 run or even in person. Hard to think that she ran for the last time 10 years ago. Let's hope that she'll run again.
That isn't entirely true. Union Pacific has stated that they don't have plans to rebuild the 3985, yet they don't have plans to get rid of it either, so it's fate is left uncertain
Instead of attempting to correct a documentary that can in no way be faulted due to its age, I want to point out the incredible cinematography of the challenger segment. Like, the locomotive slowly reversing into frame making you realise just how long it is, then hitting you with the whole thing in view along with that badass bell chiming in along with the squeal of ancient steel-upon-steel. The steam blotting out the sun! The cameras hung up in its undercarriage getting speckled with grit and dust and water droplets! And my god, that final moment of the entire train charging by with the guitar riff and the snow-capped mountains in the background to give a sense of gargantuan scale! This is why I keep coming back to this video constantly - to remind myself that there is truly glory in the machines we build.
Between the cinematography and the music, Extreme Machines set the bar for documentaries. To this day I have not seen anything match it, personally speaking.
Always liked the music in this segment, captures the percussive rythyms of a steam locomotive underway, thump-thump-hiss- hiss, screech. Pure spectacle. Had the good fortune to see 3985 run shortly before she was taken out of service, and she certainly could speak for herself. They weren't joking when they say they could shake the earth...
1:44 Um...we have 4014 now. (Yeah I know this is outdated). Just awesome to see steaming beauties in action. In addition to seeing 3985, I love how this clip also has Big Boys operating on their prime! And I do agree with the narrator: 3985 and the other late Challengers are indeed the smaller siblings to the Big Boys!
Do you know she’s coming back right? She’s been recently donated to a group in Illinois that has already promised to get her up and running once again!
Narrator: Only seven of the original 25 have been preserved, None in working order. Me: First of all, there were Eight Big Boys preserved! and Second of all, There's one in working order and that's 4014! Well I don't blame the narrator, the documentary was released while 4014 is still on display.
A bit of an Update I guess you could say of 3985's retirement, She as well as the DDA40X No. 6936 and 2-10-2 No 5511 have been donated to the Railroad Heritage Museum of America over in Illinois. This was as of May 2022 and the Museum has stated that they want to restore both 511 and 3985 back to operational condition.
I had a VHS version as a kid and its gone so when I had a chance to cut the clip out of the full episode of "Extreme Machines: Wheels of Steel" I had too just for the memories
The latest information as of May 2022 is that Union Pacific is donating UP3985 to the Railroad Heritage of Midwest America and Railroad Heritage of Midwest America has plan to restore UP3985.
Steam trains maybe inefficient, but holy crap are they gorgeous. And people have built powerful machines from pure steam, we've honestly reached steam peak efficiency, and I will concede that steam can't replace diesel or electrics. But I can't stand to see steam being scrapped either.
Ive never liked to use the term Inefficient in reguards to steam power. Diesel Electrics won out for the simple fact of them being far cheaper to run. I think if steam would have lasted another 15 years we would have seen MUCH more powerful and cheaper to run locomotives but it wasnt meant to be I guess.
@@WasatchGarandMan steam power on a locomotive is very inefficient. It has nothing to do with the technology of the time. The amount of fuel required to heat the volume of water needed will never, ever compare to Diesel Electric. And Carrying huge volumes of fuel and water and then having to replenish that water only adds to the inefficiency. And one you throw in maintenance it’s a lost cause. Modern diesel electric locomotives have FAR more tractive effort than even the Big Boy has despite having less HP. And tractive effort is what truly moves trains. Add in single person operation, vastly greater fuel efficiency and a fraction of the maintenance and steam isn’t even close.
@@FFred-us9twI’m not sure modern locomotives have more tractive effort or if it’s just easier to have more than one engine now so one engine having huge traction isn’t as big of a deal
@@JimmyCasket02 but they do have much more tractive effort. Because each axle has its own motor. A steam locomotive could never compete a with modern traction control.
It's really funny how much is wrong in this video. And I know you got it from the listed source, so I'm not getting at you, just thought the stuff was funny. He says there are 7 surviving Big Boys when there are actually 8, he said the 3985 is the only surviving Challenger, when the 3977 is in Cody Park in North Platte, NE. He also said the drivers are over 6 feet tall, and while that's true on the 844 (which are 6'8") the drivers on the 3985 are 69" (which is 5'9").
For those who don't know, as of January 2020. The Union Pacific has retired 3985 a second time. Apparently due to the Locomotive being in very poor mechanical condition. I personally never got to see 3985 run or even in person. Hard to think that she ran for the last time 10 years ago. Let's hope that she'll run again.
Sad, hopefully 3985 will soon get a rebuild. At least they now have 4014 running.
That isn't entirely true. Union Pacific has stated that they don't have plans to rebuild the 3985, yet they don't have plans to get rid of it either, so it's fate is left uncertain
Not likely to see it run anytime soon. The repairs would cost around what it took to get 4014 back to operational order but I surely miss her.
@@Scorp111786 THEY TOOK HER FROM ME
What is a poor Medical Condition?
Instead of attempting to correct a documentary that can in no way be faulted due to its age, I want to point out the incredible cinematography of the challenger segment.
Like, the locomotive slowly reversing into frame making you realise just how long it is, then hitting you with the whole thing in view along with that badass bell chiming in along with the squeal of ancient steel-upon-steel.
The steam blotting out the sun! The cameras hung up in its undercarriage getting speckled with grit and dust and water droplets! And my god, that final moment of the entire train charging by with the guitar riff and the snow-capped mountains in the background to give a sense of gargantuan scale! This is why I keep coming back to this video constantly - to remind myself that there is truly glory in the machines we build.
Between the cinematography and the music, Extreme Machines set the bar for documentaries. To this day I have not seen anything match it, personally speaking.
And now up 3985 is getting brought back to life again
Always liked the music in this segment, captures the percussive rythyms of a steam locomotive underway, thump-thump-hiss- hiss, screech. Pure spectacle.
Had the good fortune to see 3985 run shortly before she was taken out of service, and she certainly could speak for herself. They weren't joking when they say they could shake the earth...
I love the bit at 5:14 when the camera guy panics after racing by the MOW cars. Extreme Machines and the camera crew did this beast justice!
1:44 Um...we have 4014 now. (Yeah I know this is outdated).
Just awesome to see steaming beauties in action. In addition to seeing 3985, I love how this clip also has Big Boys operating on their prime! And I do agree with the narrator: 3985 and the other late Challengers are indeed the smaller siblings to the Big Boys!
That pounding metal
I miss her so much bros.
I never saw her with my own eyes before but me too man, me too.
Do you know she’s coming back right? She’s been recently donated to a group in Illinois that has already promised to get her up and running once again!
The sequence that starts at 1:47 is amazing!
1:45 that has very much changed! a big boy does now run!
R.I.P 3985
Very nice to see footage of UP 3985 in operation and the 3985 will have a new home at a railroad maintenance shop in Silvis, Illinois soon.
Imagine seeing Challenger & Big Boy in a lashup? That would be insane.
Actualy, 8 big boys were preserved, not 7
I think that was around the time 4023 was still in Cheyenne, Befor being moved to Nebraska.
Narrator: Only seven of the original 25 have been preserved, None in working order.
Me: First of all, there were Eight Big Boys preserved! and Second of all, There's one in working order and that's 4014! Well I don't blame the narrator, the documentary was released while 4014 is still on display.
I was gonna say, I remember watching this documentary on TV in the late nineties/early 2000's. It's a severely outdated documentary nowadays.
And 3985 isn't the sole survivor.
@@stevew270 That's right! 3977 is also preserved in North Platte!
@@stevew270the sole survivor still operating
@@davidstrawn9272 I know it's been a year but another bit of misinformation, 3985's drivers aren't over 6' tall, they're just 5'9" tall.
Union Pacific Challenger 3985 was retired from excursions in January 2020.
Now UP has one steam locomotive that has never been retired and one what's been retired twice. Good for one, sad for the other. :(
A bit of an Update I guess you could say of 3985's retirement, She as well as the DDA40X No. 6936 and 2-10-2 No 5511 have been donated to the Railroad Heritage Museum of America over in Illinois. This was as of May 2022 and the Museum has stated that they want to restore both 511 and 3985 back to operational condition.
I have an old VHS recording of this show and it sounds a lot better the problem with this clip is the music is too loud
I had a VHS version as a kid and its gone so when I had a chance to cut the clip out of the full episode of "Extreme Machines: Wheels of Steel" I had too just for the memories
I honestly loved thr music
The old one also talked about the Himalayan toy train to Darjeeling g and had Pete Waterman - I want a copy so bad, anyone know where to get original
I have this on CD/DVD
I’d rather hear the actual sounds of the locomotive than some ghey ass music
The latest information as of May 2022 is that Union Pacific is donating UP3985 to the Railroad Heritage of Midwest America and Railroad Heritage of Midwest America has plan to restore UP3985.
The Challengers did come first before the Big Boys, but Big Boys are so big, the challengers seem like it’s little brother
One day I hope to see these two work horses side by side that would be a beautiful site to see
2:30
3977: that is incorrect
Steam trains maybe inefficient, but holy crap are they gorgeous. And people have built powerful machines from pure steam, we've honestly reached steam peak efficiency, and I will concede that steam can't replace diesel or electrics. But I can't stand to see steam being scrapped either.
Ive never liked to use the term Inefficient in reguards to steam power. Diesel Electrics won out for the simple fact of them being far cheaper to run. I think if steam would have lasted another 15 years we would have seen MUCH more powerful and cheaper to run locomotives but it wasnt meant to be I guess.
@@WasatchGarandMan steam power on a locomotive is very inefficient. It has nothing to do with the technology of the time. The amount of fuel required to heat the volume of water needed will never, ever compare to Diesel Electric. And Carrying huge volumes of fuel and water and then having to replenish that water only adds to the inefficiency. And one you throw in maintenance it’s a lost cause.
Modern diesel electric locomotives have FAR more tractive effort than even the Big Boy has despite having less HP. And tractive effort is what truly moves trains. Add in single person operation, vastly greater fuel efficiency and a fraction of the maintenance and steam isn’t even close.
@@FFred-us9twI’m not sure modern locomotives have more tractive effort or if it’s just easier to have more than one engine now so one engine having huge traction isn’t as big of a deal
@@JimmyCasket02 but they do have much more tractive effort. Because each axle has its own motor. A steam locomotive could never compete a with modern traction control.
"Only seven of the original 25 have been persevered, none in working order"
*4014* :Please allow me to introduce myself!
So one big boy locomotive by itself could pull a 600 car freight train?
They're are 8 Big Boys and 2 Challengers, not 7 and 1.
A GIANT to love and control
Now she has a new lease on life
It's really funny how much is wrong in this video. And I know you got it from the listed source, so I'm not getting at you, just thought the stuff was funny. He says there are 7 surviving Big Boys when there are actually 8, he said the 3985 is the only surviving Challenger, when the 3977 is in Cody Park in North Platte, NE. He also said the drivers are over 6 feet tall, and while that's true on the 844 (which are 6'8") the drivers on the 3985 are 69" (which is 5'9").
Now it's The Big Boy 4014 form
I like the sound effects 2:41 makes it sound menacing
2:30, there is another
Up 3977
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TRAINTISM INTENSIFIES
GIMME A HELL YEAH BORTHER
@@WasatchGarandMan HELL YEAH BORTHER!
That would be 3985's main theme song.
Does anybody know the name of the song? The music is badass!
Wish I did, Probably was made for the TV Show.
So… big boy 4014’s Brother is the Challenger 🎉
When 3985 returns hopefully she gets a song about her in return like 4014 did. Maybe 5511 to.
It’s 8 big boys actually
❤️
So was 3985 running a Cheyenne frontier days special
0:50 [train chugging] 0:54 [train chugging]
Eight Big Boys were preserved.
Was this before or after the last big boy was brought back into service but for passenger service instead of cargo transport?
Music name please)
to be fare even tho 4014 is now in working order union pacific kept saying at the time they would never restore a big boy into working order...
Steve Lee at the throttle...
Anyone know where I can find the background music for the challenger segment (without narration)?
Two Union Pacific Challengers were saved.
Good luck with your video
Correction: There are eight Big Boys, not seven.
The video is now gone
Please may I know how was big boy fired ?
How many firemen were on board to fire ?
3985 pulled so many passenger cars. But why are there fewer passengers cars for Big Boy 4014?
It needs coal but now it needs oil
Is the 4014 the only one left?
Name of the sound track that starts at 1:48
And then one union Pacific big boy came back to life ie #4014
The name of song in 3:56 someone
360p..
The engineers don't wave from the trains anymore, not the way the did back in 1954.
It was a nice video BUT that stupid music you couldn't hear the sound of the locomotive and the Engine's whistle.
🥲
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Turn off the music!
Let us hear it ROAR!!
That horrible music. It added absolutely nothing to this video except annoyance.
It wasn't an add-on. It was already there in the original documentary, which is about 2 decades old, I believe.