A hero will help anyone in needs. The anti-hero will eradicate the troublemaker. I forgot where i found this quote.. probably in some random shounen anime
I also said jing yuan was an emminator of the hunt because the texts phrases it that way. But I was silenced but our voice may rise again. Edit: my hint was "Lightning lord was a spirit bestowed upon the general by the reign bow arbiter himself"
crazy how people are still in denial, claiming that the word emanator was on quotes, even tho in my native language and in chinese it wasn't, or that since it was a dream BS just took that info out of her ass or something. Guys, Lan and any other Aeon can choose how much power they give to their emanators. All of the 6 Xianzhou Generals plus Marshal Hua are Lan emanators, but Marshal Hua have been given much more power than the other 6.
I think the reason why people are still in denial is because of Jing Yuan's lacking performance benefiting to the title of emanator against Phantylia, he could've solo'd her one on one since bro is an emanator but bro had to rely on outside help to defeat Phantylia and he barely made it out alive even with our help. I can see now why some people still insist on calling him MID Yuan. Just goes to show that the Xianhou Alliance aren't prepared enough to face the Legion's Ravagers.
@@idontspeakjapanese6289 the thing is though, only jy and dhil (soma said h's emanator of permanence) that do soomething and jing yuan tank most attack so dhil can dish damage
@@ZAPRST8879 that's actually another mystery, of Dan Heng being an emanator of Permanence for all we know, all Long's Scions could be emanators, but without proof it's just speculations.
Plus! We know that ALL the 6 Charioteers, the 6 generals of the Xianzhou are Emmanators of the hunt. The game literally says that. And Jing Yuan, as the general of the Luofu is one of the 6 Charioteers
@@idontspeakjapanese6289 This is... Wong. Phantyglia IS an Emanator of destruction after all, so Jing Yuan would've needed way more to just win 1vs1. Especially if he wanted to keep the casualtys at minimum. On the other hand, it has been repeated by... Welt, Herta and the Express' Archives that Lan is the weakest Aeon due to how narrow his path is. So... It could just be that Lan's Emanators aren't as strong as other broader/older paths. Still, there is a difference between fighting inside the Laofu, especially considering how Emanators can destroy entire planets if they so want to (at least Acheron, who is in a path that is not inherently destructive such as Destruction and Hunt)
I don't think your example actually work that way. Most people have never known or heard of who Peter Parker was so they have no idea. Unless you are his close friend then there is no way for you to know. At most you are like I heard this voice before from the street but didn't pay attention because I was minding my own business. In justice league animate, Lex Luthor managed to take control of Wally body. He went to the mirror and unmasked him but have no idea who was that. JY was probably emanator before but we had no concrete confirmation. Being blessed by Aeon doesn't mean you are. Because people get blessed with immortality by Abundance and became monster instead. And on top of that we don't actually know how it work. Now having confirmation is a good thing.
Wasn't there a whole article that came out to talk about the topic of emanators and how Jing Yuan is one too ? Nevetheless I never understood why people were strung on the idea that the Lightning Lord is a power that's shared among generals and not that to get bestowed the Lightning Lord you must be at the level of an Emanator cause like that makes more sense to me if anything. Anyways JING YUAN BELIEVERS WE EATING GOOD THIS PATCH
My reaction when somebody else in another video stated that they were shocked about the reveal Me: I thought everybody knew it's literally stated in the Lore even though it says the first generals were all the generals were eliminators😮 so I just figured even after the first generals all the generals the ones that came afterwards became emanatars
In the Xianzhou ARC he also said, and I quote, "I can sense every single person stepping on the Ship. the only being that could go on board without my awareness would be ANOTHER Emanator." I rest my case. which is also very consistent as in the past it was said multiple times that Emanators can easily hide their presence. even during Penacony, we see Acheron use her Power to disguise her presence when walking through Sunday's mansion with Welt and Boothill mentions an Elation emanator who easily hid his presence until he blew his cover when drunk.
I wouldn't be surprised if Jing Yuan is an emanator, but there has to be a reason why the game never directly states it. Herta gets called one at the start of the game, before you even know how important that term is. Penacony makes a big deal about Acheron being one. Different character keep repeating that Lord Ravagers are emanators, even March in this patch said that we beat one. Yet they have been very careful to never use that word to describe Jing Yuan's power. Even the hoyo post explaining what emanators are, didn't even once mention the word on the Xianzhou page. Yet they did explain there how the Harmony has something that is comparable to emanators. Even in the 2.2 scene here you have the ambiguity of it being a fake dream and Black Swan saying emanators in quotes. Maybe Jing Yuan is one, or maybe LL is just a pseudo-emanator thing like the Harmonious Choir. But really, kinda wish the game would just be clear to kill all this speculation.
Either the Xianzhou just being low-profile, or it's because they're using different terms than the rest of the world thus they really thought it's not really necessary to make clear boundaries and brag about that in the first place, or they just really don't care about that. Think about this, in the story quest of patch 1.3 they literally say after the end of Phantylia boss fight, that the Generals of the Xianzhou Alliance are Vanguard of the Hunt, thus stating they're no inferior to the Emanator of the Ruin Author (the Destruction) in any way. If they're really using different terms to refer to the so called Emanator, this all makes sense.
There is nothing called a Pseudo Emanator. You're either an Emanator or youre not. The reason why BS said it in quotes is because the Harmonius Strings are often mistaken for Emanators instead of being Aspects of Xipe.
They didn't believe me when I said hey a few more characters than we think are emanators/ emanator level. Jing Yuan and Imbibitor Lunae stay strong. I kept saying it and they kept saying no, you're wrong, he's weak, make them beg.
BS knows a lot,naturally,as a memo keeper. On the movie quest,when you go to her for review she says something about knowing a memokeeper who likes to preserve memories using a camera……I believe march is a memokeeper but she doesn’t even know.
@@idontspeakjapanese6289nihility is such an odd path that No paths could ever affect it,But Lan the Hunt is more active and involved with mortals,THEY give direct blessings to the 7 arbiter generals
Also It is up to the AEONS how much power THEY are willing to give to THEIR emanators,Except for Nihility,Because IX doesnt do anything,Acheron Literally have gone deeper into IX,Tainting herself with more nihility to become an Emanator of Nihility
@@renflare2570 If Nihility was already odd when it comes to giving powers, then Elation is much odder they give power to a worm, I swear if paths exist in real life a lot of people would be in Elation just to gaslight and troll 🤣🤣
I mean it's pretty obvious. The Vanguards of The Hunt have literally been called the Reignbow Arbiter's Arrows. Also i heard FeiXiao and Huaiyan's granddaughter are going to be become playable during v2, so we can expect more lore on the 7 Arbiter Generals.
Before 2.2 I just tell people who say outright JY isn't an Emanator that if he is not stated to be neither yet, we can't confirm if he were 1 or not. And now that Blackswan finally comfirm it, we can finally say he is 1.
I’m so glad there’s finally confirmation about it, now I can stop saying “Although it isn’t said, it’s highly indicated that Jing Yuan is an Emanator”. Honestly, this confirmation did also sadden me a bit, because it also confirms that Emanators of a Playable Path don’t necessarily become Playable Characters along that Path … JingYuan is currently the first case of this.
This really got me the most in that scene. Although I am happy to hear this I am still also cautious cause this part of the story was part of a dream. so there is a slight possibility too that this was just the MC's made up reality at that point. Or the emanator is only Jing Yuan's "gundam" worstcase. But I think it is not unlikely to be true either as it was stated by Black Swan even though in a dream.
@@MrLoreAddictBy your logic, Herta, Ruan Mei and Stephen all dropped the sim universe project to personally help rebuild Penacony since we received that information inside the dream as well.
@@Epicalcaik That information was not given by Black Swan, who is the only person who was actually able to interact with us within the dream. JY confirmation as an Emanator is actually given by her.
@@frostfrost8907 Everyone interacted with us. If you mean the fact that she saw through the dream, she VERY specifically told us that she fell under the hallucination too and only figured it out after looking at our memories in the light cone. She was very clearly surprised and changed her attitude after looking at the light cone. This happened after the "emanator" reveal. They also told us that Acheron was the only one immune to the illusion which is why they only tried to expel her in the first place and none of the memokeepers.
@@frostfrost8907 I don't mind if he turns out to be an emanator later on, but they have been extremely clear and unambiguous when revealing all the other emanators like Herta, Acheron and Phantylia. There is no reason they couldn't do the same for Jing Yuan if he was one too since he has been present in the story so much. Fu xuan received her third eye as a gift directly from Nous but nobody has suggested she is an emanator, it seems more reasonable to assume Jing Yuan's Lightning Lord is a similar situation. If it is a gift from Lan then it seems more reasonable to assume that the trailblazer just mistook that power for an emanator so BS called him that in their dream. Just like how JY suddenly called us Galactic Baseballer when meeting us or IPC people deciding to give up on penacony.
Probably the reason why people does not accept that he is an emanator is because of Jing Yuan's lacking performance benefiting to the title of an emanator against Phantylia who is considered as the WEAKEST ravager, he could've solo'd her one on one since he is an emanator but he had to rely on outside help to just barely defeating Phantylia and he barely made it out alive even with our full help. Just goes to show that the Xianhou Alliance aren't prepared enough to face the Legion's Ravagers, especially against Zephyro.
I see where you are coming from, but Phantilia is not a weak as you might think. When we fought her with Jing Yuan she was not just a Destruction powered Heliobus but she also used the power of the Ambrosial arbor to juice herself up. So in terms of strength she was almost like a Destruction emanator combined with an Abundance abomination.
@@MrLoreAddict I'am actually totally fine with Jing Yuan being an emanator I just did not believe it back then because of the lack of proof of him being an emanator. Also not even his closest allies dosen't mention him being an emanator and I am just assuming what those people are thinking and this is probably the most accurate answer why they still deny him. In that state she was actually at her weakest point, She was still learning at that time, not knowing how to use the power of the Abundance to her advantage but comparing her to other Ravagers like Zephyro, yep she kinda weak.
@@MrLoreAddict Phantylia *is* a confirmed Emanator. She is a Lord Ravager, and the Express' Data Bank directly says that Lord Ravagers *are* Emanators of Destruction.
I wouldn't jump to conclusions just yet because after all, Enas' dream told us sweet lies about a bunch of things like the IPC releasing their claim over Penacony and the Genius Society and Inteligencia Guild working together etc. Ying Juan being referred to as an emenator could just be another lie. You just really want that one to be true. Just some food for thought :)
The only flaw Regarding ena's dream was That we met misha in the reverie hotel,Black swan confirmed that Everything Other than The one major flaw were real
@@renflare2570 The major flaw is what gave away that were were still in a dream. That doesn't mean everything else in the dream was true. Ying Juan and the alliance don't even show up in the real world.
@@Yama_1291 What Transpired in the Dream Did happen,Dan Heng Called The Xianzhou alliance,But nevertheless It happened inside Ena's dream,Black Swan Literally confirmed That What happened there Did Happened,Because the moment we Entered The asdana system we were already Inside Ena's dream Edit:Also You cant argue with what black swan Stated,Because she was a real entity who confirmed Jing yuan's status even if the alliance appearance only happened inside ena's Dream,She only realized she was trapped inside the dream after we gave the empty lightcone back
An emanator is someone who was bestowed power by an Aeon directly. All of the seven arbiter generals possess formidable spirits bestowed upon them by Lan themself. So yes Jing Yuan is an emanator. In the guide to penacony is the direct proof on page 24, Six commisions, Cloud knights. (hsr.hoyoverse.com/guidetopenacony)
i am not really sure the Jing Yuan thing even really happened as we were in a made up conclusion dream at that moment and never defeated the boss that way as i understood it.
But it is BS who said it. And she is the one woke us up. On top of that why would TB dream and made up JY as amanator in his mind it made even less sense.
To be fair, it was only confirmed that he was as powerful as an emanator before. It’s nice to know that he’s an actual emanator now. Which brings up the next question… How many Xianchou generals also been emanators? Does the lightning lord only appear to the emanator generals or just Jing Yuan? But most importantly… If Jing Yuan is an emanator, why did the game make his playable character so weak? Do we need to use the Jade abacus before we get playable Jing Yuan’s full emanator power? 😛
Story strength is different from game strength. In Genshin. zhongli is the 2nd strongest character that are playable story wise and is a fighting god, but in gameplay he is a support with almost 0 field time to deal dmg. JY is not as strong as other limited but well build JY can have consistent cycle clear as it is tied to LL action which is kind of fixed foe you to build around. So your well build JY may consistently clear 1-2 cycle even though he is struggling 0 cycle. Meanwhile if other fail to do the thing in 0 cycle they may get delayed by 1-2 cycles to recover their energy and rotation. It is a disaster for Argenti to not finish off enemies with ulti for example or DHIL end up with 0 skill point or JL accidently waste 1 more turn in this wave and loses her trans state.
All 7 Arbiter Generals are considered Emanator because they received blessing from Lan the Hunt, and Lightning Lord is one of the blessing given to the holder title of the Luofu General, which is currently Jing Yuan. Regarding the last question of yours. The story and in-game performance of a character doesn't always align, in this case Jing Yuan being victimized is one example of how the development team doesn't really planning the game well. Lacking of support characters and suitable game mechanics also contribute to the character versatility.
lack of data will ended up with miscalculation. in 1.0, they don't know the character threshold. kinda similar to venti and day 1 zhongli. but zhongli got buffed. after that, hoyoverse said that they won't buff any character ever again even if they are too weak.
@@motemo8413 I agree to your question of why they didnt tell us to a certain extend, but the high implications by given lorestatements about the loufu ships generals and jing yuan gotten blessed by Lan themself was a really really fat sprinkle to not definitively denying it as some people did hehe
There are several occurrences suggesting that some characters are following a path in the lore that does not correspond to the path assigned to them gameplay wise like Jing Yuan, Tingyun and Sparkle.The main reason is that the paths correspond to a style of game mechanics so even if Jing Yuan follows the hunting path in the lore, his role as aoe dps in game prevents him from following this path in game since hunt characters = single target dps.
In game path is not actually has to be story path. Most of the Xianzhou are hunt. March is rememberance. Dan and Bailu in a way is Permeance. Sampo and Sparkle is Elation. The in game path is just like RPG class system
It is pretty much confirmed he is one by that sentence. People argued it was false. However, If it was false then someone must made it up that JY was emanator. Then who exactly was that big of JY fanboy to made up such thing. And the person said that was BS who had nothing to do with JY so far and she was the one that woke us up from the dream. But I kind agree the reasoning for that is being blessed by aeon doesn't make you amanator. It is complicated and the game doesn't say how it work exactly.
@@KKKuma it's a different case. Blessed in Emanator terms means you're given right to draw power of an Aeon and acting as their representative, while the Xianzhou natives whom their ancestor had cursed with immortality by the Plague Author most of them don't even pledge their allegiance to the Abundance, even some Xianzhou natives that already gotten Mara-struck and call themselves Discuples of Sanctus Medicus, most of them are too weak to be called Emanator by us and by the standard of the people living in HSR Universe because they can't draw Abundance power freely, although there're might be few of them who can but not yet revealed in the story. So, no. Edit: I mean drawing power from a path that preceded by certain Aeon (with Their permission)
@@Yuanshaohd7e7 ... Phantylia, by the Alliance. They never once call her Emanator, yet they recognize her title as Lord Ravager (with the express' Data Bank confirming that every Lord Ravager IS an Emanator). The Laofu an their people have their own customs, separated from the "IPC". If you must, Emanator is a title that only the IPC and associated cultures use and HSR has gone above and beyond to show how "culturally different" the Alliance and the IPC are. So... Yeah. They. They also have their own names for their Aeons and don't give a fuck about other's names.
Ok, but you do have to note that Black Swan said that in the dream so it might not have been real and also "Emanators" was in quotations, since Sunday is not an Emanator, he just reached Emanator level because of the Harmonius Choir, the 100,000 souls from the Oak Family and the Stellaron. So the quotations might be because Jing Yuan is not an Emanator but he has Emanator level strength because of the Lightning Lord.
If you paid attention to the dialog after finishing Phantylia boss fight in 1.3, you won't doubt Xianzhou Alliance Generals' status as the Emanator of Lan the Hunt.
@@vladbucur7700 in fact it is implied there, people who disagree either they're not paying attention or they just don't accept it. For people who don't pay attention to the quest whether it's because they hate Luofu Arc or they just missed the point by accident. For people who hate the Luofu Arc either their braincells isn't work properly enough or they find the story is badly organized. Now, it's up to them, which type are they
Bro started his anti-hero arc
What's anti-hero?
A hero will help anyone in needs. The anti-hero will eradicate the troublemaker. I forgot where i found this quote.. probably in some random shounen anime
I really applaud and respect that you actually kept note of the people that wronged you or said "Nuh uh" 🗿💀
I also said jing yuan was an emminator of the hunt because the texts phrases it that way. But I was silenced but our voice may rise again.
Edit: my hint was "Lightning lord was a spirit bestowed upon the general by the reign bow arbiter himself"
crazy how people are still in denial, claiming that the word emanator was on quotes, even tho in my native language and in chinese it wasn't, or that since it was a dream BS just took that info out of her ass or something. Guys, Lan and any other Aeon can choose how much power they give to their emanators. All of the 6 Xianzhou Generals plus Marshal Hua are Lan emanators, but Marshal Hua have been given much more power than the other 6.
I think the reason why people are still in denial is because of Jing Yuan's lacking performance benefiting to the title of emanator against Phantylia, he could've solo'd her one on one since bro is an emanator but bro had to rely on outside help to defeat Phantylia and he barely made it out alive even with our help. I can see now why some people still insist on calling him MID Yuan. Just goes to show that the Xianhou Alliance aren't prepared enough to face the Legion's Ravagers.
@@idontspeakjapanese6289 the thing is though, only jy and dhil (soma said h's emanator of permanence) that do soomething and jing yuan tank most attack so dhil can dish damage
@@ZAPRST8879 that's actually another mystery, of Dan Heng being an emanator of Permanence for all we know, all Long's Scions could be emanators, but without proof it's just speculations.
Plus! We know that ALL the 6 Charioteers, the 6 generals of the Xianzhou are Emmanators of the hunt. The game literally says that. And Jing Yuan, as the general of the Luofu is one of the 6 Charioteers
@@idontspeakjapanese6289 This is... Wong. Phantyglia IS an Emanator of destruction after all, so Jing Yuan would've needed way more to just win 1vs1. Especially if he wanted to keep the casualtys at minimum. On the other hand, it has been repeated by... Welt, Herta and the Express' Archives that Lan is the weakest Aeon due to how narrow his path is. So... It could just be that Lan's Emanators aren't as strong as other broader/older paths. Still, there is a difference between fighting inside the Laofu, especially considering how Emanators can destroy entire planets if they so want to (at least Acheron, who is in a path that is not inherently destructive such as Destruction and Hunt)
I thoguth everyone knew he was an emenator
Its like listening to spider man's voice and knowing thats peter parker
I don't think your example actually work that way. Most people have never known or heard of who Peter Parker was so they have no idea. Unless you are his close friend then there is no way for you to know. At most you are like I heard this voice before from the street but didn't pay attention because I was minding my own business.
In justice league animate, Lex Luthor managed to take control of Wally body. He went to the mirror and unmasked him but have no idea who was that.
JY was probably emanator before but we had no concrete confirmation. Being blessed by Aeon doesn't mean you are. Because people get blessed with immortality by Abundance and became monster instead. And on top of that we don't actually know how it work. Now having confirmation is a good thing.
Wasn't there a whole article that came out to talk about the topic of emanators and how Jing Yuan is one too ?
Nevetheless I never understood why people were strung on the idea that the Lightning Lord is a power that's shared among generals and not that to get bestowed the Lightning Lord you must be at the level of an Emanator cause like that makes more sense to me if anything.
Anyways JING YUAN BELIEVERS WE EATING GOOD THIS PATCH
My reaction when somebody else in another video stated that they were shocked about the reveal
Me: I thought everybody knew it's literally stated in the Lore even though it says the first generals were all the generals were eliminators😮 so I just figured even after the first generals all the generals the ones that came afterwards became emanatars
In the Xianzhou ARC he also said, and I quote, "I can sense every single person stepping on the Ship. the only being that could go on board without my awareness would be ANOTHER Emanator."
I rest my case.
which is also very consistent as in the past it was said multiple times that Emanators can easily hide their presence. even during Penacony, we see Acheron use her Power to disguise her presence when walking through Sunday's mansion with Welt and Boothill mentions an Elation emanator who easily hid his presence until he blew his cover when drunk.
It's actually funny to see Mr. LoreAddict this way😂
I remember i said once that jing yuan was an emanator but then got told i was wrong by nearly 100 people in a comment
I wouldn't be surprised if Jing Yuan is an emanator, but there has to be a reason why the game never directly states it. Herta gets called one at the start of the game, before you even know how important that term is. Penacony makes a big deal about Acheron being one. Different character keep repeating that Lord Ravagers are emanators, even March in this patch said that we beat one. Yet they have been very careful to never use that word to describe Jing Yuan's power. Even the hoyo post explaining what emanators are, didn't even once mention the word on the Xianzhou page. Yet they did explain there how the Harmony has something that is comparable to emanators. Even in the 2.2 scene here you have the ambiguity of it being a fake dream and Black Swan saying emanators in quotes. Maybe Jing Yuan is one, or maybe LL is just a pseudo-emanator thing like the Harmonious Choir. But really, kinda wish the game would just be clear to kill all this speculation.
Either the Xianzhou just being low-profile, or it's because they're using different terms than the rest of the world thus they really thought it's not really necessary to make clear boundaries and brag about that in the first place, or they just really don't care about that.
Think about this, in the story quest of patch 1.3 they literally say after the end of Phantylia boss fight, that the Generals of the Xianzhou Alliance are Vanguard of the Hunt, thus stating they're no inferior to the Emanator of the Ruin Author (the Destruction) in any way. If they're really using different terms to refer to the so called Emanator, this all makes sense.
I feel like he's in the same situation as Aventurine as is merely borrowing the power of an emanator (the Marshal Hua, the real emanator of the hunt)
They call The Hunt and Abundance with different names to everyone else, so my best bet here is that they just compare "General = Emanator"
There is nothing called a Pseudo Emanator. You're either an Emanator or youre not. The reason why BS said it in quotes is because the Harmonius Strings are often mistaken for Emanators instead of being Aspects of Xipe.
They didn't believe me when I said hey a few more characters than we think are emanators/ emanator level. Jing Yuan and Imbibitor Lunae stay strong. I kept saying it and they kept saying no, you're wrong, he's weak, make them beg.
I never doubted you
BS knows a lot,naturally,as a memo keeper. On the movie quest,when you go to her for review she says something about knowing a memokeeper who likes to preserve memories using a camera……I believe march is a memokeeper but she doesn’t even know.
If someone says you're wrong about March but turns out you're correct, please make a short video like this one.
Jokes on them. I always supported the idea of Jingyuan being an emanator
insane how big gap beetwen hunt emanator and nihility emanator power scaling in game
Marshal Hua might be a powerful emanator to match Bosenmori Mei.
@@idontspeakjapanese6289nihility is such an odd path that No paths could ever affect it,But Lan the Hunt is more active and involved with mortals,THEY give direct blessings to the 7 arbiter generals
Also It is up to the AEONS how much power THEY are willing to give to THEIR emanators,Except for Nihility,Because IX doesnt do anything,Acheron Literally have gone deeper into IX,Tainting herself with more nihility to become an Emanator of Nihility
@@renflare2570 If Nihility was already odd when it comes to giving powers, then Elation is much odder they give power to a worm, I swear if paths exist in real life a lot of people would be in Elation just to gaslight and troll 🤣🤣
@@idontspeakjapanese6289 yeah And according to boothill,Theres another Elation emanator that he got drunk Lmao
0:36 blud became a villain
I mean. It may be the Lightning Lord that that's the Emanator, like Dominicus
I ALWAYS said he was an emanator how else did he get a whole stance and didn't get killed by the lord ravager etc etc
Ayo Lan chill out
I mean it's pretty obvious. The Vanguards of The Hunt have literally been called the Reignbow Arbiter's Arrows.
Also i heard FeiXiao and Huaiyan's granddaughter are going to be become playable during v2, so we can expect more lore on the 7 Arbiter Generals.
im sorry mr lore addicted pelse forgive us
Before 2.2 I just tell people who say outright JY isn't an Emanator that if he is not stated to be neither yet, we can't confirm if he were 1 or not. And now that Blackswan finally comfirm it, we can finally say he is 1.
I’m so glad there’s finally confirmation about it, now I can stop saying “Although it isn’t said, it’s highly indicated that Jing Yuan is an Emanator”.
Honestly, this confirmation did also sadden me a bit, because it also confirms that Emanators of a Playable Path don’t necessarily become Playable Characters along that Path … JingYuan is currently the first case of this.
I'm sorry
PEOPLE WERE ACTUALLY DENYING HE'S HUNT Emanator?
The Erudition emanator of the hunt. (This is ridiculous.)
This really got me the most in that scene. Although I am happy to hear this I am still also cautious cause this part of the story was part of a dream. so there is a slight possibility too that this was just the MC's made up reality at that point. Or the emanator is only Jing Yuan's "gundam" worstcase. But I think it is not unlikely to be true either as it was stated by Black Swan even though in a dream.
I don't think it's part of the MC making shit up, mostly because... It was BS who said it. The only person who could actually manipulate the dream.
Don't question the man who's name is literally lore addict
That was in a dream, bro😅 stop hallucinating.
By your logic, Mikhail is not the Watchmaker since we received that information inside the dream as well.
@@MrLoreAddictBy your logic, Herta, Ruan Mei and Stephen all dropped the sim universe project to personally help rebuild Penacony since we received that information inside the dream as well.
@@Epicalcaik That information was not given by Black Swan, who is the only person who was actually able to interact with us within the dream. JY confirmation as an Emanator is actually given by her.
@@frostfrost8907 Everyone interacted with us. If you mean the fact that she saw through the dream, she VERY specifically told us that she fell under the hallucination too and only figured it out after looking at our memories in the light cone. She was very clearly surprised and changed her attitude after looking at the light cone. This happened after the "emanator" reveal. They also told us that Acheron was the only one immune to the illusion which is why they only tried to expel her in the first place and none of the memokeepers.
@@frostfrost8907 I don't mind if he turns out to be an emanator later on, but they have been extremely clear and unambiguous when revealing all the other emanators like Herta, Acheron and Phantylia. There is no reason they couldn't do the same for Jing Yuan if he was one too since he has been present in the story so much. Fu xuan received her third eye as a gift directly from Nous but nobody has suggested she is an emanator, it seems more reasonable to assume Jing Yuan's Lightning Lord is a similar situation. If it is a gift from Lan then it seems more reasonable to assume that the trailblazer just mistook that power for an emanator so BS called him that in their dream. Just like how JY suddenly called us Galactic Baseballer when meeting us or IPC people deciding to give up on penacony.
Why tf does bro follow erudtion while being lan's emanator
Probably the reason why people does not accept that he is an emanator is because of Jing Yuan's lacking performance benefiting to the title of an emanator against Phantylia who is considered as the WEAKEST ravager, he could've solo'd her one on one since he is an emanator but he had to rely on outside help to just barely defeating Phantylia and he barely made it out alive even with our full help. Just goes to show that the Xianhou Alliance aren't prepared enough to face the Legion's Ravagers, especially against Zephyro.
I see where you are coming from, but Phantilia is not a weak as you might think. When we fought her with Jing Yuan she was not just a Destruction powered Heliobus but she also used the power of the Ambrosial arbor to juice herself up.
So in terms of strength she was almost like a Destruction emanator combined with an Abundance abomination.
@@MrLoreAddict I'am actually totally fine with Jing Yuan being an emanator I just did not believe it back then because of the lack of proof of him being an emanator. Also not even his closest allies dosen't mention him being an emanator and I am just assuming what those people are thinking and this is probably the most accurate answer why they still deny him.
In that state she was actually at her weakest point, She was still learning at that time, not knowing how to use the power of the Abundance to her advantage but comparing her to other Ravagers like Zephyro, yep she kinda weak.
Source that saying Phantylia is the WEAKEST Ravager?
phantylia is heavily amped by the arbor
and where is she stated the weakest ravager
@@MrLoreAddict Phantylia *is* a confirmed Emanator. She is a Lord Ravager, and the Express' Data Bank directly says that Lord Ravagers *are* Emanators of Destruction.
I know panthylia call him the guardian of the hunt, but i don't suspect he's an emanator
Fun fact I do know already that Jing Yuan is indeed an emenetor lol
I wouldn't jump to conclusions just yet because after all, Enas' dream told us sweet lies about a bunch of things like the IPC releasing their claim over Penacony and the Genius Society and Inteligencia Guild working together etc. Ying Juan being referred to as an emenator could just be another lie. You just really want that one to be true. Just some food for thought :)
The only flaw Regarding ena's dream was That we met misha in the reverie hotel,Black swan confirmed that Everything Other than The one major flaw were real
We would know the real truth once we met the Marshal
The first reply is all you need to know
@@renflare2570 The major flaw is what gave away that were were still in a dream. That doesn't mean everything else in the dream was true. Ying Juan and the alliance don't even show up in the real world.
@@Yama_1291 What Transpired in the Dream Did happen,Dan Heng Called The Xianzhou alliance,But nevertheless It happened inside Ena's dream,Black Swan Literally confirmed That What happened there Did Happened,Because the moment we Entered The asdana system we were already Inside Ena's dream
Edit:Also You cant argue with what black swan Stated,Because she was a real entity who confirmed Jing yuan's status even if the alliance appearance only happened inside ena's Dream,She only realized she was trapped inside the dream after we gave the empty lightcone back
Fake news indirect reference in a dream
so ur saying firefly isn't Sam then, since that news was also in the dream?
he's not an emanator 🤣 the quotations around the word prove HE ISN'T. black swan was being sarcastic 🤦♂
An emanator is someone who was bestowed power by an Aeon directly. All of the seven arbiter generals possess formidable spirits bestowed upon them by Lan themself.
So yes Jing Yuan is an emanator.
In the guide to penacony is the direct proof on page 24, Six commisions, Cloud knights.
(hsr.hoyoverse.com/guidetopenacony)
but that was a dream sequence and JY doesn't actually show up
remember i agreed on you that he was ;)
i am not really sure the Jing Yuan thing even really happened as we were in a made up conclusion dream at that moment and never defeated the boss that way as i understood it.
But it is BS who said it. And she is the one woke us up. On top of that why would TB dream and made up JY as amanator in his mind it made even less sense.
To be fair, it was only confirmed that he was as powerful as an emanator before. It’s nice to know that he’s an actual emanator now.
Which brings up the next question…
How many Xianchou generals also been emanators? Does the lightning lord only appear to the emanator generals or just Jing Yuan?
But most importantly…
If Jing Yuan is an emanator, why did the game make his playable character so weak? Do we need to use the Jade abacus before we get playable Jing Yuan’s full emanator power? 😛
Story strength is different from game strength. In Genshin. zhongli is the 2nd strongest character that are playable story wise and is a fighting god, but in gameplay he is a support with almost 0 field time to deal dmg. JY is not as strong as other limited but well build JY can have consistent cycle clear as it is tied to LL action which is kind of fixed foe you to build around. So your well build JY may consistently clear 1-2 cycle even though he is struggling 0 cycle. Meanwhile if other fail to do the thing in 0 cycle they may get delayed by 1-2 cycles to recover their energy and rotation. It is a disaster for Argenti to not finish off enemies with ulti for example or DHIL end up with 0 skill point or JL accidently waste 1 more turn in this wave and loses her trans state.
All 7 Arbiter Generals are considered Emanator because they received blessing from Lan the Hunt, and Lightning Lord is one of the blessing given to the holder title of the Luofu General, which is currently Jing Yuan.
Regarding the last question of yours. The story and in-game performance of a character doesn't always align, in this case Jing Yuan being victimized is one example of how the development team doesn't really planning the game well. Lacking of support characters and suitable game mechanics also contribute to the character versatility.
lack of data will ended up with miscalculation. in 1.0, they don't know the character threshold. kinda similar to venti and day 1 zhongli. but zhongli got buffed. after that, hoyoverse said that they won't buff any character ever again even if they are too weak.
how tf did people yap that he is not emenator, thats crazy to me LOL
They hated Mid Yuan that's why
@@idontspeakjapanese6289 JingYuan*
@@idontspeakjapanese6289King Yuan*
because he was never stated to be one before this. like why couldn't they outright say that he is an Emanator in Loufu arc?
@@motemo8413 I agree to your question of why they didnt tell us to a certain extend, but the high implications by given lorestatements about the loufu ships generals and jing yuan gotten blessed by Lan themself was a really really fat sprinkle to not definitively denying it as some people did hehe
🤔 hmmm. Didn't all of this happened inside ena's dream??? I don't get it. I mean that first ending wasn't even true to begin with.
It was mentioned that Jing yuan was an Emantor of the Hunt? Its just that Jing yuan was weak AF in game
I thought emanators are the same as the path they follow? 🧐 Like Acheron with Nihility
There are several occurrences suggesting that some characters are following a path in the lore that does not correspond to the path assigned to them gameplay wise like Jing Yuan, Tingyun and Sparkle.The main reason is that the paths correspond to a style of game mechanics so even if Jing Yuan follows the hunting path in the lore, his role as aoe dps in game prevents him from following this path in game since hunt characters = single target dps.
In game path is not actually has to be story path. Most of the Xianzhou are hunt. March is rememberance. Dan and Bailu in a way is Permeance. Sampo and Sparkle is Elation. The in game path is just like RPG class system
It is pretty much confirmed he is one by that sentence. People argued it was false. However, If it was false then someone must made it up that JY was emanator. Then who exactly was that big of JY fanboy to made up such thing. And the person said that was BS who had nothing to do with JY so far and she was the one that woke us up from the dream.
But I kind agree the reasoning for that is being blessed by aeon doesn't make you amanator. It is complicated and the game doesn't say how it work exactly.
Give me example of someone in game being blessed by Aeon and didn't called an Emanator
@@Yuanshaohd7e7 People get blessed with immortality by Abundance but turned into monster instead in the end
@@KKKuma it's a different case. Blessed in Emanator terms means you're given right to draw power of an Aeon and acting as their representative, while the Xianzhou natives whom their ancestor had cursed with immortality by the Plague Author most of them don't even pledge their allegiance to the Abundance, even some Xianzhou natives that already gotten Mara-struck and call themselves Discuples of Sanctus Medicus, most of them are too weak to be called Emanator by us and by the standard of the people living in HSR Universe because they can't draw Abundance power freely, although there're might be few of them who can but not yet revealed in the story.
So, no.
Edit: I mean drawing power from a path that preceded by certain Aeon (with Their permission)
Fu xuan's third eye that she uses to divine stuff is a gift from Nous after she found their temple, she is not an emanator @@Yuanshaohd7e7
@@Yuanshaohd7e7 ... Phantylia, by the Alliance. They never once call her Emanator, yet they recognize her title as Lord Ravager (with the express' Data Bank confirming that every Lord Ravager IS an Emanator). The Laofu an their people have their own customs, separated from the "IPC". If you must, Emanator is a title that only the IPC and associated cultures use and HSR has gone above and beyond to show how "culturally different" the Alliance and the IPC are. So... Yeah. They. They also have their own names for their Aeons and don't give a fuck about other's names.
not really a reveal, its just half the fan base are illerate
Ok, but you do have to note that Black Swan said that in the dream so it might not have been real and also "Emanators" was in quotations, since Sunday is not an Emanator, he just reached Emanator level because of the Harmonius Choir, the 100,000 souls from the Oak Family and the Stellaron. So the quotations might be because Jing Yuan is not an Emanator but he has Emanator level strength because of the Lightning Lord.
If you paid attention to the dialog after finishing Phantylia boss fight in 1.3, you won't doubt Xianzhou Alliance Generals' status as the Emanator of Lan the Hunt.
@@Yuanshaohd7e7 If you also paid attention to the quest, you would know it's not mentioned otherwise this debate would not have lasted this long.
@@vladbucur7700 in fact it is implied there, people who disagree either they're not paying attention or they just don't accept it. For people who don't pay attention to the quest whether it's because they hate Luofu Arc or they just missed the point by accident. For people who hate the Luofu Arc either their braincells isn't work properly enough or they find the story is badly organized. Now, it's up to them, which type are they
the quotations were not there in the Chinese translation