When Scarface said " Ain't No bright side to losing life but you can view it like this/ God's got open hands homey he in the midst/ of good company who loves all and hates not one/ and one day you're gonna be with your son"! CHILLS
Not only is the Starlight Story true, it goes deeper than that: So, when Quincy, MJ, Rod and engineer Bruce Swedien recorded the OG tracklist of Thriller, Quincy listened and said, "Let's remove the 4 weakest Songs and replace them," challenging MJ and Rod to write New songs, as well as his stable of writers. They removed 4 songs - She's Trouble, Got The Hots, Hot Street and Carousel. The songs that replaced them were Human Nature, The Lady In My Life (written by Rod), PYT, and at the 11th hour, Beat It (written by MJ).
Facts….Math been my favorite battle rapper since he punched dude out his hat for bumping him wit the brim of his hat…Definitely happy for one of us to WIN LIKE THIS…More🥇 n 🏆 CHAMP 🙏🏾 🤲…N Pack this Nigga Mecca up he like is a square Nigga that’s getting his get back every chance he get n is a real discreet hater..like it’s in him n on him n sowed into the fiber of his being
Mecca comes from the era where people really put time and effort, passion, and pain into the music. So that’s why at times he’s so excited to hear these stories cause it’s a reminder of how things were. You still got a few artist/producers that have that same mindset, but it’s rare in this day and age.
Okay that’s a diff lens I never looked at in but he is so trash a lame is a lame and his opinions don’t matter when they come to to a person who can prolly really replace him with a diff palette of taste that’s better. DoggyBone cares abt his cover stories he wrote zzzzzzzz
Exactly I was recording with a guy and he got some better equipment and said we had to redo the songs and I couldn’t recapture the delivery the swag the confidence the same cadence long story short we had great music that the world will never hear
I’m glad that the production piece of Guru was brought up. He mentioned 9th Wonder pushing him and me being from North Carolina and a fan of Lil’ Brother, it reminded me of the track that Guru produced on “The Chittlin Circuit”. Appreciate ya Math for this amazing platform. 🔥✊🏽💪🏽
Yes, I've listened to "Star Light" before it became "Thriller" & the storyline is 🔥 ... Yes rewrites, & 1-takes are both impressive, freestyle, etc., doing it to perfection. Salute to all the artists
I love the fact that Guru gave Smoke Dza his flowers at the end of the video...DZA is super underrated...Beloved is one of my favorite songs of all time
Them 12 hour weekend shifts are horrible. I got trapped on a Thursday to Thursday 12 hour night shifts. Keep grinding and try get on that Mon - Fri 8 hour days with optional overtime. Be safe.
KD scoring 37 points in a game is great, but Klay Thompson scoring 37 in a quarter is just more impressive. That doesn't take away from KD scoring 37, it's just more impressive to do it in one quarter.
The man can't say he's impressed? That's the problem in this day and age. If you don't agree with someone else, it's a problem. Everyone wants to force their beliefs and views down your throat.
Yeah.. GURU was pissin me off with that.. no nigga YOUUUUUU don't care how long it took.. we all know rappers didn't to "1 take" WITHOUT WRITING IT DOWN... ANNNNDDDD MEMORIZING IT??!!!! before Jay said he did.. it was impressive THEN. Wtf is niggas talmbout??!!!
A legend, fam. He needs his flowers like for some reason he’s underrated. ‘Face was probably the first rapper paranoia and suicide like he so tough & vivid with what he says
@@genius179 he from the south...why his career almost went under the radar....my 🐐...n not close ...mainstream n commercial b.s raps was neva his career n applaud that very💯💯💯👏
Math Hoffa u are going to be Big Legendary for Hip Hop interviews like this one. Man I was hooked listening to Guru. Math keep up the great amazing work. This podcast is in my top 3. This is one of the best, Fat Joe I could go on and on bro. Man keep this shxt going bro. I'm locked in in Baltimore.
Only other time I heard about something like this happening is Nak on Earl Sweatshirt’s song “DNA” where he got the call his friend was murdered then went write to the booth to do his verse a few minutes later.
Yo I feel that being caught in the moment. My producer let me hear a few beats it was one that stood out I cried when I hear that beat then I wrote a song called Game of Life to me it's one of my most powerful songs every time I hear that song I shed a tear because a lot of things I said in that song I needed to get off my chest and I felt that I didn't have nobody to talk to
11:15 great example from esso he left guru finish the ask his question.. the nigga with dreds will interrupt the guest mid sentence as if his corny ass question is what the fans wanna know
Mecca true point is that it’s impressive to do a one take when it’s great material. If someone does one take of blah blah black sheep he wouldn’t care it was one take. So again I’m impressed as well that he makes such important content in one take no pen. Quality will always be the key whether it’s one take or 100
1:48 - Math's face 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂. You ever see 2 people agree on something, but one of them just keeps arguing a weak point that's taking the conversation NOWHERE? Had to edit and come again @ 2:58
To Mecca point. It is impressive when a Great Verse is spit with cadences and pronunciations and thought with out writing it is impressive. The Lore of Hov spitting these GREAT VERSES off one take is what people are floored by. Not just spitting a verse straight through on 1 take..
me being the diehard Mike Jackson fan i been knew about Starlight. then Quincy, MJ, and Rod Temperton (who wrote Thriller) all decided they wanted to do something more edgy
When I tell you that Scarface verse had me going through the motions, maaaannnnn listen..sh!t will have you in tears. That last part of the verse about no bright side to losing life and his mans one day being with his son in heaven…i cried tears 😭 and felt that sh!t. I put that on everything. Never ever wanna be in that position but i felt that ❤️ 😢
This is the thing that's not being said in this whole 1 Take thing.... there's mad stories of Hov listening to a beat for like 10 minutes, mumbling to himself, and THEN going in the booth and spitting something crazy in 1 Take... a la Welcome To New York City. It's the reason he started saying 1 take Hov. Or at the end of the black album "ay guru I be taking them shits in one Take, you gon have to punch niggas shit, you gon be tight" When you hear he wrote it in his head in like 15 minutes, and spit a classic verse in 1 Take.... it's different.
That's what Texas artists do..they make you feel that shit in a whole different way more realer and deeper way than other places do... The south Different...
Young Guru's words hit different. Like, you can sense people being quiet because they know they are in the presence of someone whose experience articulated holds weight and spoken allowed is more valuable to the culture than silence (ie. lets take a moment of silence to remember The Notorious B.I.G., Left Eyr, Aliyah, Tupac Shakur, Big Pun, XXXtenacion, the Chiraq fallen eyc...)...his vooce holds more weight than that.
When Scarface said " Ain't No bright side to losing life but you can view it like this/ God's got open hands homey he in the midst/ of good company who loves all and hates not one/ and one day you're gonna be with your son"! CHILLS
If only there was a God
The most perfectly fit rap verse of all time
One of the realest verses ever
😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊 I 😊😊😊
Favorite lines in the song!! Straight fire 🔥🔥🔥
GURU's story telling is next level. I could hear this man talk about anything.
Yeah bro like Guru seems mad cool
Not only is the Starlight Story true, it goes deeper than that:
So, when Quincy, MJ, Rod and engineer Bruce Swedien recorded the OG tracklist of Thriller, Quincy listened and said,
"Let's remove the 4 weakest Songs and replace them," challenging MJ and Rod to write New songs, as well as his stable of writers.
They removed 4 songs - She's Trouble, Got The Hots, Hot Street and Carousel. The songs that replaced them were Human Nature, The Lady In My Life (written by Rod), PYT, and at the 11th hour, Beat It (written by MJ).
Damn and those are arguably the best ones on the album
GOAT ish!
@@adamhunt607 Bigg facts!
Wow 🤯.
So basically some of his most iconic songs were created because of that. Crazy.
You can tell Guru has a real love, passion and respect for music in total.
Math Hoffa is Killin the game on his interviews! Love his content 🔥🔥🔥
Absolutely 💯
Facts….Math been my favorite battle rapper since he punched dude out his hat for bumping him wit the brim of his hat…Definitely happy for one of us to WIN LIKE THIS…More🥇 n 🏆 CHAMP 🙏🏾 🤲…N Pack this Nigga Mecca up he like is a square Nigga that’s getting his get back every chance he get n is a real discreet hater..like it’s in him n on him n sowed into the fiber of his being
True mfn story!!!
Facts
Is the full interview out
Mecca comes from the era where people really put time and effort, passion, and pain into the music. So that’s why at times he’s so excited to hear these stories cause it’s a reminder of how things were. You still got a few artist/producers that have that same mindset, but it’s rare in this day and age.
💯🤝🏾
Okay that’s a diff lens I never looked at in but he is so trash a lame is a lame and his opinions don’t matter when they come to to a person who can prolly really replace him with a diff palette of taste that’s better. DoggyBone cares abt his cover stories he wrote zzzzzzzz
Super Fact!
Just had this conversation with my homie yesterday loco!!
I'm excited as well
This can’t be life, will make a grown man cry 😢. Sooo deep!
Can’t be life one of my favorite records! Always thought HOV Beans and Face should have done a joint album
Max and Brad
Tried but jay was moving I'm another way
@@klosekal55l yh..unfortunately.....
@@bpthegreatt Mac n brad...face n beans was gonna do that cd ...from that song off the truth n beans shooting happened ..yh
Math is absolutely right. The emotion can’t be recaptured sometimes
Exactly I was recording with a guy and he got some better equipment and said we had to redo the songs and I couldn’t recapture the delivery the swag the confidence the same cadence long story short we had great music that the world will never hear
To hear this is a blessing. How he connects the dots so civilians can see how the beauty comes to fruition!! Priceless. Best guest !!
Scarface The diary and the fix are two of the most incredible rap albums I ever heard in top 10 for sure
The Fix is a perfect album
Made was pretty dope too
The Fix is GROWN MAN music!!
Scarface is legend down In south Florida . We on him heavy
The diary is a masterpiece, dark af, real shit
I’m glad that the production piece of Guru was brought up. He mentioned 9th Wonder pushing him and me being from North Carolina and a fan of Lil’ Brother, it reminded me of the track that Guru produced on “The Chittlin Circuit”. Appreciate ya Math for this amazing platform. 🔥✊🏽💪🏽
Yes, I've listened to "Star Light" before it became "Thriller" & the storyline is 🔥 ... Yes rewrites, & 1-takes are both impressive, freestyle, etc., doing it to perfection. Salute to all the artists
Facts 💯
This is why kids today should understand feeling and sound … just sending track to someone doesn’t have the same feeling
Man u cant deny yall interviews!!! SO MANY CLASSICS 🔥🔥💯
I love the fact that Guru gave Smoke Dza his flowers at the end of the video...DZA is super underrated...Beloved is one of my favorite songs of all time
This Guru interview might be the best one next to Mic Geronimo's interview
Clark Kent one fire too
Face is def one of the G.O.A.T.S! 🐐 🔥
The GOAT, my favorite
Drop the guru interview or I'm swinging on you son 😅🤣🤣🤣🤣
Young Guru my favorite guest of all-time on this show man! Much Respect!
Mic Geronimo, Yayo and Guru are classic interviews
this hands down my fAVORITE interview, u can tell guru genuine as hell!! no lies and good details in how jayz comes up with all this crazy shit
Straight up how many of us is this our first time knowing how GURU looks after hearing his name forever🤣🤣🏎
You watch these interviews and The Blueprint album makes perfect, Young Guru is a genius just as much as Jay is.
Damn math can we get the full episode bro..I be looking forward to this on my 12 hr weekend shifts! Keep grinding my guy #HoffaGang
Them 12 hour weekend shifts are horrible. I got trapped on a Thursday to Thursday 12 hour night shifts. Keep grinding and try get on that Mon - Fri 8 hour days with optional overtime. Be safe.
KD scoring 37 points in a game is great, but Klay Thompson scoring 37 in a quarter is just more impressive. That doesn't take away from KD scoring 37, it's just more impressive to do it in one quarter.
Yea but the defense is more focused on stopping KD. But I get the analogy
As long as I am entertained...
I was at that game with my mom it was her last live basketball game before she died
Maff with the "C'mon Son" got me crying 😅🤣
HOFFA funny AF!!! 😂 The way he stirs the pot then lays back like a Don and lets it marinate 😂😂😂
One of those guest that gets Hoffa to be closer to being the best podcast regardless of content.
Kanye got Nicki to rewrite her verse on Monster, Ross' verse on Devil in a verse dress and Pusha on Runaway
Runaway is Masterpiece!!
Damn.. went back to Scarface verse and damn... timing is everything!!
The man can't say he's impressed? That's the problem in this day and age. If you don't agree with someone else, it's a problem. Everyone wants to force their beliefs and views down your throat.
*pause* FACTS
In any day and age.
Right like guru was challenging the wrong shit 😂😂😂😂
@@zod4365 dude “beliefs” ain’t gay fam lmao
Yeah.. GURU was pissin me off with that.. no nigga YOUUUUUU don't care how long it took.. we all know rappers didn't to "1 take" WITHOUT WRITING IT DOWN... ANNNNDDDD MEMORIZING IT??!!!! before Jay said he did.. it was impressive THEN. Wtf is niggas talmbout??!!!
Mecca I get you bro. It’s different when you just go and it’s that great. I appreciate people like that, they special
Math face is priceless 🤣🤣🤣
Dude laugh is horrible 😂😂😂
That turn to the left then to give that look. That's Math trademark..
@@006ahenry straight outta The Office 😭😭😭😭😭
SCARFACE MAKES SOME EMOTIONAL STUFF
A legend, fam. He needs his flowers like for some reason he’s underrated. ‘Face was probably the first rapper paranoia and suicide like he so tough & vivid with what he says
@@genius179 he from the south...why his career almost went under the radar....my 🐐...n not close ...mainstream n commercial b.s raps was neva his career n applaud that very💯💯💯👏
Song gave me ghostbumps like Feel it the Air did! Great music 🎶🎤🎆
I literally just got finished listening to this song. "can't be life"
Math Hoffa u are going to be Big Legendary for Hip Hop interviews like this one. Man I was hooked listening to Guru. Math keep up the great amazing work. This podcast is in my top 3. This is one of the best, Fat Joe I could go on and on bro. Man keep this shxt going bro. I'm locked in in Baltimore.
Only other time I heard about something like this happening is Nak on Earl Sweatshirt’s song “DNA” where he got the call his friend was murdered then went write to the booth to do his verse a few minutes later.
When we started going to the studio, the goal was to spit the verse in one take perfectly. No punches, no stumbles.
I literally went and listened to starlight sun … damn Guru is a Guru !!!
I’m so thankful my older brother put me on Scarface and the Geto Boys. Some of my favorite music.
No disrespect but there is only one Guru. This is Young Guru, a legend in his own right but not Gifted Unlimited Rhymes Universal
Yo I feel that being caught in the moment. My producer let me hear a few beats it was one that stood out I cried when I hear that beat then I wrote a song called Game of Life to me it's one of my most powerful songs every time I hear that song I shed a tear because a lot of things I said in that song I needed to get off my chest and I felt that I didn't have nobody to talk to
producers are most underrated and 98% of them chose to remain under the radar....
Math's facial expressions when he looks directly into the camera are CLASSIC!!!!! LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!
Need the full interview ASAP!!!
Damn dza so layed back and humble I ain't even see my guy in the back
This cant be life is one of the best hip hop songs ever
Math is easily the best pod going now. Shout out to the black rogan!!!
Guru: I’m the Forest Gump of this sh**
T.K. Kirkland: Hold my beer
Esso was wrong as usual on why he called himself Forrest Gump
1:22 - my man in the hat cutting his sentence short to accomodate the story telling. that's a real g right there
Math!!! U have the best podcast hands down!! Salute
Everybody came with it but Face verse was epic! 🔥🔥🔥
The story behind the verse is what made it epic. But I always thought Beans stole the show
@@354allday beans 🔥 tho
@@354alldaybeans had the hardest verse imo was jus too cold
11:15 great example from esso he left guru finish the ask his question.. the nigga with dreds will interrupt the guest mid sentence as if his corny ass question is what the fans wanna know
I can’t wait to see this interview
See this is the kinda stuff that I like hearing on a podcast. All the behind the scenes stuff about my favorite crews and songs that were made
Mecca true point is that it’s impressive to do a one take when it’s great material. If someone does one take of blah blah black sheep he wouldn’t care it was one take. So again I’m impressed as well that he makes such important content in one take no pen.
Quality will always be the key whether it’s one take or 100
He's Impressed!!!!
This can’t be life showed how great Scarface is!! Incredible Lyrics !!
We need the full episode...these clips are fire 🔥
This interview is epic.
Any story that includes, "boom boom boom" is always a great story.
Guru keep up the work that’s another lane ✈️✈️
The Fix will forever be a classic
This guest is a gem straight classics yo soundtrack to my childhood
1:48 - Math's face 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂. You ever see 2 people agree on something, but one of them just keeps arguing a weak point that's taking the conversation NOWHERE?
Had to edit and come again @ 2:58
Beautiful stories that we definitely needed access to.
To Mecca point. It is impressive when a Great Verse is spit with cadences and pronunciations and thought with out writing it is impressive. The Lore of Hov spitting these GREAT VERSES off one take is what people are floored by. Not just spitting a verse straight through on 1 take..
Definitely the best new cast out
Chill I know about the mj starlight record lol I purposely put it on to see friends reactions when they realize it's not thriller 😂🤣😅
THE CONVO ON THIS CHANNEL IS SO MATURE AND THIS GURU I NEVER KNEW OF HIM AND I like to make beats im 50+ and i enjoy the hip hop his story
me being the diehard Mike Jackson fan i been knew about Starlight. then Quincy, MJ, and Rod Temperton (who wrote Thriller) all decided they wanted to do something more edgy
1. This Can’t be life
2. Guess who’s back
3. Somehow, Someway
That’s how I rank songs by Hov, Face, and Beanie
💯
No other way to rank them
I agree! Period, 💯
KANYE A DAMN GENIUS BOY !!!!! 🥹😭
@@jwalls1223 gotta give Just Blaze his dues for SHSW too🏆
When I tell you that Scarface verse had me going through the motions, maaaannnnn listen..sh!t will have you in tears. That last part of the verse about no bright side to losing life and his mans one day being with his son in heaven…i cried tears 😭 and felt that sh!t. I put that on everything. Never ever wanna be in that position but i felt that ❤️ 😢
"Did you ever get what you wanted ?" Man well timed question.
Beanie verse is crazy too!! On that song!!
It’s impressive he don’t write and still come up with the the best lyrics you’ve heard ..I understand what my guy saying
My boy DZA🔥🔥
Math salute King... amazing interview
Salute to my brother🙏🏾💯
I like guru’s haircut. It’s like getting a line up 7 days after getting ur haircut
everytime Mecca speaks i fast forward fam... smh.... but i love all the interview MATH keep up the good work!
This is the thing that's not being said in this whole 1 Take thing.... there's mad stories of Hov listening to a beat for like 10 minutes, mumbling to himself, and THEN going in the booth and spitting something crazy in 1 Take... a la Welcome To New York City. It's the reason he started saying 1 take Hov. Or at the end of the black album "ay guru I be taking them shits in one Take, you gon have to punch niggas shit, you gon be tight" When you hear he wrote it in his head in like 15 minutes, and spit a classic verse in 1 Take.... it's different.
The man Guru Speaks!!!
I gotta watch this Guru one in full when it drop. I know Imma get too locked in and it’s gonna cut off lol
Chucky Thompson is a LEGEND! Unsung
That's what Texas artists do..they make you feel that shit in a whole different way more realer and deeper way than other places do... The south Different...
Guru the best storyteller NO CAP, Legendary only
Forest Gump FR
Yo Math's fourth wall expressions got me rollin fam
Guru in the building, run it back!!!
Mathhhh😁 facial expressions we having me weak🤣
HOFFA NEVA FAILS!! 🔥💯💪🏿
SMOKE DZA IS A BEAST!!!!!!! That album with him and GURU should be a banger
When are we going to get the full interview?!!!
I wanna meet Young Guru one day, dude is a library for hip-hop. Him and ninth wonder
Young Guru's words hit different. Like, you can sense people being quiet because they know they are in the presence of someone whose experience articulated holds weight and spoken allowed is more valuable to the culture than silence (ie. lets take a moment of silence to remember The Notorious B.I.G., Left Eyr, Aliyah, Tupac Shakur, Big Pun, XXXtenacion, the Chiraq fallen eyc...)...his vooce holds more weight than that.
Smoke DZA been that dude under water like Aquaman ..Guru and him....? Time to Really get his long time due props
Take buddy with the glasses off he's doing too much lol
This feel like déjà vu.... tired hearing smoke next. We still love bars and story’s! Drop the tape
I had to check out that Starlight by MJ. That’s crazy. That’s finna make me start going bk in.