Takumi Sen 8 (Same midsole) with 420Km and still feels sharp and fast (I even feel it’s getting better)! Really love this shoe! It’s also indestructible!
I've raced three 5K in the Sen 9s over the last couple of months and I can't recommend them enough. Absolutely superb performance and great value at £119 as well. Got them after Andy's glowing recommendation. They are a revelation!
The mileage of my Sen 8 was 790km. Retired due to a hole in the pinkie area. Everything else was OK. Used mainly for speed and tempo workouts, two runs were 30km, not really suited for that but capable of it.
I bought myself a pair of Sen 9 on special yesterday and ran with it. I'm going back today to buy another pair. They're awesome shoes, extremely comfortable, and super light.
Hi Andy, I picked up the Takumi Sen based on your advice and pleased I did! Definitely not for easy long runs but fantastic for the rotation for the quick stuff! I ran a 5k race in it this weekend. Feels so light and fast 👍
I have two pairs of the Sen 8. 100 miles on one and only 16 on the second pair. There was a great deal at Adidas, so I had to pick up another pair, since this is such a great tempo shoe. Mine are as good as new after 100 miles. LightStrike Pro seems to be one of the most durable high end foams out there. The Continental outsole is great as well. Longest run in these is 11 miles. I agree that it's better to use the AP3 for those longer efforts, but this shoe is so great at turning up the pace for shorter efforts. I haven't picked up the Sen 9, since it's so close to the 8. The Brooks Hyperion Max is on my watch list for when that goes on sale. I think I'd benefit from that extra stack and a little bit firmer ride. I also agree that the Speed 3 doesn't have quite the same pop as the older models. I prefer the Puma Deviate Nitro 2 to the Speed 3 and would choose that for longer miles, but I love lacing up the Sen 8 for hill reps, sprints, etc. I need to take that shoe for 5k race soon myself. Keep up the good work!
Just used the Takumi Sen 9 for the Mexico City marathon and it was great. Kept me at a 7:47 mile pace, with just a couple of minor blisters. Very happy with it. I wanted a little less stack height than the Adios Pro 2/3.
I can't imagine racing a marathon in Mexico City! I love the place but the combination of high altitude and air pollution meant I was gasping for breath at my usual easy pace. Congrats
Takumi Sen8 260+KM so far, foam is starting to really feel perfect. It was never firm to begin with, but it was one of my more firm midsoles. Now it just feels like the perfect blend of cushion, bounce, responsiveness. While not begin restrictive like a full length carbon plated shoe. No outsole wear to mention. Not a fan of the upper, tore an eyelet the first time I laced them up, but if they produce a Takumi Sen with a Strung upper, I'd probably pick it up regardless.
For me the trainer is Deviate Nitro2, it works well anytime, anywhere, anypace. However, when I take the Takumi Sen out for a faster run it feels like a special day.
This shoe has range. Ran a 5 K race in them, the best longrun of the year 25 K, and the best marathon workout of the year in them 19 K. Done lots of treshold and speed workouts.
Love the shoe but the last two pair Ive had I end up peeling the outsole off of the heel relatively quickly. Looks like on the Sen10 they have addressed the issue.
I have the same issue (TS8). To be fair I don't exactly use them as Adidas intended them to be (5k/10k races). I use them on the track which is abrasive and when I am tired my gait is not the cleanest. I would be annoyed if I had paid full price, however I got 3x pairs at 50-60% discounts. After my current pair I have 2 more pairs to go through.
@@TolunayOrkunI think it probably because of the way we run. By we I mean the people that have this problem. I was looking at my friends trainers and they were worn in a very different way to mine.
I have the Takumi Sen 9 and absolutely loved it! Minor point, but would appreciate if you put the links you mentioned in the description as well (e.g. link to the Daily Trainers video). Thanks
I have TS8 and it is mostly the same as TS9. These are my favorite shoes for fastest track workouts. I like them more than Adios Pro 3. I wish the outsole was better in the heel area using the same Continental Rubber as in forefoot. My gait is less clean when I get tired, and it has worn out faster in the heel area and I see yours is in better shape but still the wear is significant in that weaker rubber. But I have 3 pairs purchased at 50-60% discount so I am not so worried about the wear. If I had paid the full price, I would be annoyed.
In the currenr 5k training series I raced the first couple in Takumi SEN 8s and the more recrnt handful in Vaporflys. Can honestly say no difference in performance between the two. Any small gains in time have been due to increased training load. So yes, give them a go at your next shorter distance race.
If you had to choose one, which would you pick for short distance runs up to 5km? The Takumi Sen 9 or the Nike Vaporfly 3? I’m having a hard time deciding. I usually train by running fast distance intervals with a mix of slow longer distance runs.
Do you feel the Takumi Sen 9 to be more comfortable for a longer run (fast or slower) then an Adios 7 or Adios 8 ? I'm asking because I have no problem doing my long runs (10-14km) with my Adios 7 and Iwas wondering if it would be even a more delightful to do it with the Sen 9 instead. Thanks.
I was wondering the opposite as I have the Takumi sen 9 but was considering the Adios 8 for my rotation. Along with intervals and 5km park runs, I do my long slow runs (
I’ve only got about 100k in my Takumi Sen 9s, but I’ve really struggled with comfort. I have wide feet and so went up half a size to fit, but I’ve found that I get enough rubbing on the top of my big toe and next toe from the end of the laces (where the upper is slightly thicker) that the top of my toes are bleeding after about >8k. Really annoying, since otherwise they seem to be really responsive and fast. But something to be aware for those of us with wider feet. Never had any similar issues with any other shoe.
Aagung runner here. Also 6 month psoas syndrome recovery Anyway, firstxfew,runs in Tacumeh left me kinda beat up. We're yours hard to break in? Certain milage, 10 miles,,? 15? 20? Nice stack height so surprised how harsh it feels the first few runs.
Do you really think there is a difference between rods and plates? I see them as more or less equivalent. I wanted a pair of Talumi, not sure however how to use them. Great film!
Andy, you said that the Saucony Endorphin Speed 3 is best at somewhat slower paces. How would you say the Speed 3 performs at my paces of ~6:30 min/mi for the mile, ~7:20 for 5K, 8:00 for half marathon, and ~8:30 for the marathon? Thanks!
Hi, Don´t you feel the mid sole so hard? I got the boston 11 and I feel heavy and not responsive like asics magic speed 2. May be they are not on the same category. But Im 64 kg, and the light pro doesnt works for me .
I love the Takumi Sen 8 (and am aware that the 9 is just an upper update). I agree that it stands out in its category. I’m curious though…do you use the StreakFly for similar cases? I find it to be a fun shoe, but really soft for a “lower” stack racing tech option. I find myself using the Takumi Sen for hey sessions and the StreakFly for maybe tempo sessions or tired-legged-speedwork. Some of my friends even use the StreakFly as a recovery day shoe!
I am a US size men's 11 for both the Saucony and Nike speed shoes. Does it make sense to go up a half size In these shoes? I understand that they fit a little tighter in the toebox.
I have the Takumi 8 and is my favorite , even better than my higher stack super shoes . Hope the 10 could add just a teeny bit more stack for it to be slightly more generalised with its use. I have been contemplating about the hyperion max , but is it much harsher than the takumi or when broken in feels the same?
Absolutely, this or the v10 are perfect for speed workouts. I stopped using mine due to my ankles rolling in too much, you have to be a solid neutral runner to get on with them… but if that’s you, then yes
The bottom of mine keeps coming apart I got another pair and same thing happened it’s the green bit on your shoe why is this and is there anyway to fix it.. should I keep running on them?
@@TheFODRunner no I mean the green part at the bottom the outsole of the midsole in the trainer it comes loose and hangs off and you can see the white underneath
@@James.chalmers oh I see sorry! I’d definitely contact customer services at adidas and send photos, I’m sure they’d be able to help! If you are not a heel striker then if it was me I’d keep using them (but still contact adidas)… if you are a heel striker then I can assume you’d lose some good grip without it so I’d probably stop using them
It's too bad it doesn't have a decent upper on it..I have never liked the plastic uppers from the vaporfly thru the adidas shoes..fortunately I believe the strung type and the alphafly type are the future..those plastic uppers bring back unpleasant memories of using bread bags over my socks to keep them dry to play in the snow..I much prefer having my feet be wet from water as opposed to be soaking in sweat..a Takumi sen with a strung upper sounds like a good idea..
Totally with you on that thought... I've done just short of 500km in the 8 and it's still great....I bought the 9 after I'd done 200km in the 8 thinking I'd alternate them to keep them fresh,but I only got the 9 out of the box once for a 10 miler and it went back to the box for later as the 8 was just sublime.
It's an interim review after 100 miles...to be continued. What's all that about 100 miles is nothing and normal folks ? Did you actually listen to what Andy was saying.
Absolutely with you , 100 miles is nothing when shoes can cost over £200 and most are £100+ . I've got over 1200 miles on my favourite shoes ( novablast mk1's) and I see my Adidas pro 3s are looking half done at just over 230 miles so won't be buying them again . I usually get at least 600+ miles . Even my cheap early model Skechers have done over 300 and definitely good for another 200 . Keep running and pick your feet up because shoes are too expensive 🏃♂️🏃♂️🏃♂️🏃♂️🏃♂️
You should say what pace you run when you say “it’s great for me in zone 2” or for “speed work in my 1/2 marathon training block”. It would be far more helpful to say something like “it feels great at 5:30 mile pace”. Everyone’s speed work and zones are different but running dynamics at a given pace are pretty consistent….so I suggest you say how shoes feel based on the pace you’re running.
Got a half marathon PR in the Sen 8. These would have been considered max cushion shoes 7 years ago.
These are the shoes that Emile Cairess ran the British 10M record on this year, and then a 2.08 marathon debut in I think!
Takumi Sen 8 (Same midsole) with 420Km and still feels sharp and fast (I even feel it’s getting better)! Really love this shoe! It’s also indestructible!
Really?? Are you sure?! Upper has held up, no holes no tears? And the outsole is still good..? Really?
Ran my half marathon PB in my Takumi sen 8s. Anything longer and I also prefer my Adios Pro 3s.
I have the Takumi Sen 9 that I use for 5k and intervals and I really feel light with them, I like them a lot!
I've raced three 5K in the Sen 9s over the last couple of months and I can't recommend them enough. Absolutely superb performance and great value at £119 as well. Got them after Andy's glowing recommendation. They are a revelation!
Thanks for the Hyperion Max recommendation! I trust anyone who is as big of a fan of the Sen 9 as I am!
The takumi Sen 9 is a great shoe for speed work and even for threshold training. Have used them for a 8K and 10K races and got PB on both.
The mileage of my Sen 8 was 790km. Retired due to a hole in the pinkie area. Everything else was OK. Used mainly for speed and tempo workouts, two runs were 30km, not really suited for that but capable of it.
I'm surprised that thin rubber on the lateral side held up for that long.
Get yourself down to a parkrun in the Takumis and see how they fare at fast pace
I bought myself a pair of Sen 9 on special yesterday and ran with it. I'm going back today to buy another pair. They're awesome shoes, extremely comfortable, and super light.
Hi Andy, I picked up the Takumi Sen based on your advice and pleased I did! Definitely not for easy long runs but fantastic for the rotation for the quick stuff! I ran a 5k race in it this weekend. Feels so light and fast 👍
what happens if i wear it on an easy longrun
I have two pairs of the Sen 8. 100 miles on one and only 16 on the second pair. There was a great deal at Adidas, so I had to pick up another pair, since this is such a great tempo shoe. Mine are as good as new after 100 miles. LightStrike Pro seems to be one of the most durable high end foams out there. The Continental outsole is great as well. Longest run in these is 11 miles. I agree that it's better to use the AP3 for those longer efforts, but this shoe is so great at turning up the pace for shorter efforts. I haven't picked up the Sen 9, since it's so close to the 8. The Brooks Hyperion Max is on my watch list for when that goes on sale. I think I'd benefit from that extra stack and a little bit firmer ride. I also agree that the Speed 3 doesn't have quite the same pop as the older models. I prefer the Puma Deviate Nitro 2 to the Speed 3 and would choose that for longer miles, but I love lacing up the Sen 8 for hill reps, sprints, etc. I need to take that shoe for 5k race soon myself. Keep up the good work!
Just used the Takumi Sen 9 for the Mexico City marathon and it was great. Kept me at a 7:47 mile pace, with just a couple of minor blisters. Very happy with it. I wanted a little less stack height than the Adios Pro 2/3.
so, it is possible to run a marathon in these shoes? 😅
@@maraniizeBro marathon shoes less than 10 years ago had a lot less in stack height. This would be considered a max cushion shoe compared to those.
I can't imagine racing a marathon in Mexico City! I love the place but the combination of high altitude and air pollution meant I was gasping for breath at my usual easy pace. Congrats
Takumi Sen8 260+KM so far, foam is starting to really feel perfect. It was never firm to begin with, but it was one of my more firm midsoles. Now it just feels like the perfect blend of cushion, bounce, responsiveness. While not begin restrictive like a full length carbon plated shoe. No outsole wear to mention. Not a fan of the upper, tore an eyelet the first time I laced them up, but if they produce a Takumi Sen with a Strung upper, I'd probably pick it up regardless.
For me the trainer is Deviate Nitro2, it works well anytime, anywhere, anypace. However, when I take the Takumi Sen out for a faster run it feels like a special day.
This shoe has range. Ran a 5 K race in them, the best longrun of the year 25 K, and the best marathon workout of the year in them 19 K. Done lots of treshold and speed workouts.
Love the shoe but the last two pair Ive had I end up peeling the outsole off of the heel relatively quickly. Looks like on the Sen10 they have addressed the issue.
Same here.
I have the same issue (TS8). To be fair I don't exactly use them as Adidas intended them to be (5k/10k races). I use them on the track which is abrasive and when I am tired my gait is not the cleanest. I would be annoyed if I had paid full price, however I got 3x pairs at 50-60% discounts. After my current pair I have 2 more pairs to go through.
@@TolunayOrkunI think it probably because of the way we run. By we I mean the people that have this problem.
I was looking at my friends trainers and they were worn in a very different way to mine.
just found it for $90 at Adidas so had to give it a go for my next marathon block.
Amazing, I just hit 275 miles and can't tell it from my other brand new pair. I weigh 146 lbs which probably helps
I have the Takumi Sen 9 and absolutely loved it! Minor point, but would appreciate if you put the links you mentioned in the description as well (e.g. link to the Daily Trainers video). Thanks
I have TS8 and it is mostly the same as TS9. These are my favorite shoes for fastest track workouts. I like them more than Adios Pro 3. I wish the outsole was better in the heel area using the same Continental Rubber as in forefoot. My gait is less clean when I get tired, and it has worn out faster in the heel area and I see yours is in better shape but still the wear is significant in that weaker rubber. But I have 3 pairs purchased at 50-60% discount so I am not so worried about the wear. If I had paid the full price, I would be annoyed.
In the currenr 5k training series I raced the first couple in Takumi SEN 8s and the more recrnt handful in Vaporflys.
Can honestly say no difference in performance between the two. Any small gains in time have been due to increased training load.
So yes, give them a go at your next shorter distance race.
If you had to choose one, which would you pick for short distance runs up to 5km? The Takumi Sen 9 or the Nike Vaporfly 3? I’m having a hard time deciding. I usually train by running fast distance intervals with a mix of slow longer distance runs.
@@jaytan9549 the Takumis every time for distances up to HM.
@@tworunningbrooms Alrighty, thank you! Both aren’t exactly cheap so having the opinion of a more hardcore runner helps me make my decision 🤣
Do you feel the Takumi Sen 9 to be more comfortable for a longer run (fast or slower) then an Adios 7 or Adios 8 ?
I'm asking because I have no problem doing my long runs (10-14km) with my Adios 7 and Iwas wondering if it would be even a more delightful to do it with the Sen 9 instead.
Thanks.
I was wondering the opposite as I have the Takumi sen 9 but was considering the Adios 8 for my rotation. Along with intervals and 5km park runs, I do my long slow runs (
I’ve only got about 100k in my Takumi Sen 9s, but I’ve really struggled with comfort. I have wide feet and so went up half a size to fit, but I’ve found that I get enough rubbing on the top of my big toe and next toe from the end of the laces (where the upper is slightly thicker) that the top of my toes are bleeding after about >8k. Really annoying, since otherwise they seem to be really responsive and fast. But something to be aware for those of us with wider feet. Never had any similar issues with any other shoe.
Aagung runner here. Also 6 month psoas syndrome recovery Anyway, firstxfew,runs in Tacumeh left me kinda beat up. We're yours hard to break in? Certain milage, 10 miles,,? 15? 20? Nice stack height so surprised how harsh it feels the first few runs.
Do you really think there is a difference between rods and plates? I see them as more or less equivalent. I wanted a pair of Talumi, not sure however how to use them. Great film!
Andy, you said that the Saucony Endorphin Speed 3 is best at somewhat slower paces. How would you say the Speed 3 performs at my paces of ~6:30 min/mi for the mile, ~7:20 for 5K, 8:00 for half marathon, and ~8:30 for the marathon? Thanks!
Same question here with similar paces!
Very very surprised the upper has held up and it has got no holes or tears or rips! Really?
Hi, Don´t you feel the mid sole so hard? I got the boston 11 and I feel heavy and not responsive like asics magic speed 2. May be they are not on the same category. But Im 64 kg, and the light pro doesnt works for me .
Good afternoon. Interesting information about the your takumi sen9. Like to Andy. A nice day for everyone. 🌞🏃🌞
I love the Takumi Sen 8 (and am aware that the 9 is just an upper update). I agree that it stands out in its category.
I’m curious though…do you use the StreakFly for similar cases? I find it to be a fun shoe, but really soft for a “lower” stack racing tech option. I find myself using the Takumi Sen for hey sessions and the StreakFly for maybe tempo sessions or tired-legged-speedwork. Some of my friends even use the StreakFly as a recovery day shoe!
I use the Streakfly and the takumi for exactly the same thing if I’m honest!
I am a US size men's 11 for both the Saucony and Nike speed shoes. Does it make sense to go up a half size In these shoes? I understand that they fit a little tighter in the toebox.
I have the Takumi 8 and is my favorite , even better than my higher stack super shoes . Hope the 10 could add just a teeny bit more stack for it to be slightly more generalised with its use. I have been contemplating about the hyperion max , but is it much harsher than the takumi or when broken in feels the same?
Takumi Sen 9 are suitable for 21km race?
TSen =500km , if you drag your foot / heal you will get 20km. about ( for me) 1 min faster over 5km than a non race type shoe
Would you recommend these still in 2024? I race in asics Metaspeed edge Paris but won’t a shoe for fast workouts I mainly run 5k -10k races
Absolutely, this or the v10 are perfect for speed workouts. I stopped using mine due to my ankles rolling in too much, you have to be a solid neutral runner to get on with them… but if that’s you, then yes
@@TheFODRunner ok mate thankyou and what would you suggest if I have this problem ?
@@XRMarcus the saucony Kinvara 14 has been my go to
Would you say they are faster than the vapourfly 1/2 for a 5k?
Ok for a Marathon too.(imo)
The bottom of mine keeps coming apart I got another pair and same thing happened it’s the green bit on your shoe why is this and is there anyway to fix it.. should I keep running on them?
You mean the energy rods that go through the shoe? They keep snapping?
@@TheFODRunner no I mean the green part at the bottom the outsole of the midsole in the trainer it comes loose and hangs off and you can see the white underneath
@@James.chalmers oh I see sorry! I’d definitely contact customer services at adidas and send photos, I’m sure they’d be able to help! If you are not a heel striker then if it was me I’d keep using them (but still contact adidas)… if you are a heel striker then I can assume you’d lose some good grip without it so I’d probably stop using them
It's too bad it doesn't have a decent upper on it..I have never liked the plastic uppers from the vaporfly thru the adidas shoes..fortunately I believe the strung type and the alphafly type are the future..those plastic uppers bring back unpleasant memories of using bread bags over my socks to keep them dry to play in the snow..I much prefer having my feet be wet from water as opposed to be soaking in sweat..a Takumi sen with a strung upper sounds like a good idea..
100 miles is nothing bro, most of us normal folks need to get 1/2 years out of a shoe and then another 2 as general use 😆
Totally with you on that thought... I've done just short of 500km in the 8 and it's still great....I bought the 9 after I'd done 200km in the 8 thinking I'd alternate them to keep them fresh,but I only got the 9 out of the box once for a 10 miler and it went back to the box for later as the 8 was just sublime.
😂😂😂
It's an interim review after 100 miles...to be continued. What's all that about 100 miles is nothing and normal folks ? Did you actually listen to what Andy was saying.
Some current shoes are having trouble getting to 100 Miles without bits falling off.
I found the Sen 8 and Pro 3 have got some decent durability.
Absolutely with you , 100 miles is nothing when shoes can cost over £200 and most are £100+ . I've got over 1200 miles on my favourite shoes ( novablast mk1's) and I see my Adidas pro 3s are looking half done at just over 230 miles so won't be buying them again . I usually get at least 600+ miles . Even my cheap early model Skechers have done over 300 and definitely good for another 200 . Keep running and pick your feet up because shoes are too expensive 🏃♂️🏃♂️🏃♂️🏃♂️🏃♂️
You should say what pace you run when you say “it’s great for me in zone 2” or for “speed work in my 1/2 marathon training block”. It would be far more helpful to say something like “it feels great at 5:30 mile pace”. Everyone’s speed work and zones are different but running dynamics at a given pace are pretty consistent….so I suggest you say how shoes feel based on the pace you’re running.
Looks doesn’t fit wide
It’s not, it’s narrow