Thomas Massie is practically the only current Congressman I respect. I was very sad to hear about his wife's passing recently. I hope he can manage to keep his head up.
This is when UA-cam needs a double thumbs up! What a great conversation between two based individuals.👍👍 (it is heartbreaking to think of this man having just lost his wife, probably just days after this conversation. 🙁 My condolences to Mr Massie. Thanks for all that you do for our country! Please take some time for yourself and your family. You are in my prayers.)
It's magical when kindred spirits from different worlds can discuss ideas, agree on atrocities, disagree on mechanics and resolve that further study and discussion can be not only fruitful...but enjoyable. Wow...humanity at its best.
I dig that Massie dropped the challenge to all Austrian Economists. Not having a way to quantify and forecast economic models hasn’t been discovered YET. I believe that a brilliant mind such as Saifedeans can do it. There’s a noble prize in economics waiting…
Mr Massie is cut from a different cloth. Great conversation, if only the world had more politicians like him. Great work getting him on the Pod Saifedean!
Rep. Thomas Massie is the BEST. We are lucky to have someone like him to fight back against the LUNATICS.that are destroying this country. THANK YOU Rep. Thomas Massie!
Awesome listen. Great conversation in all its parts. Will definitely come back for more. I consider myself somewhat of a maths person myself, have to say you two are amazing^1,000,000
I enjoyed this conversation between two based, unapologetic individuals, Can't wait for the next discussion between them on human action and why mathematical equations can’t solve the complexity of human behavior.
I lost over $70k when everything started to tank. Not because I was in an exchange that went belly up. I was just stupid to hold and because that's what everyone said. I'm still responsible. It just taught me to be a better investor now that I understand more of what could go wrong. It took me over two years of being in the market, I'm really grateful I found one source to recover my money, at least $10k profits weekly. Thanks Natalie Strayer..
I'm surprised that you just mentioned Natalie Strayer here also Didn’t know she has been good to so many people too this is wonderful, i'm in my fifth trade with her and it has been super.
Natalie Strayer has really set the standard for others to follow, we love her here in Canada 🇨🇦 as she has been really helpful and changed lots of life's
I was honestly a little apprehensive about how these two personalities would mesh but wow was I way off. What a good conversation. I hope they find time for a follow up someday.
19:13 interestingly i agree with Massie here. When it comes to fiat, the most powerful Navy has always had the reserve currency. USA, Great Britain, Spain, Portugal, etc
Interesting bit on math and economics. On the individual level the value of anything will vary but the market price is the aggregate of all individuals. While no individual is exactly the same human behavior follows the Gaussian distribution. For the first time in history we have a fixed monetary unit that can better reflect that aggregate value. It won't be an exact science but it is as scientific as measuring the orbit of a planet around a sun x amount of light years away.
Just a point about the reserve currency being the dollar beside its liquidly ,the dollar was put into that position because the main reason was the political stability of the United States...compared to other countries..but that doesn't seem to be the case in the Biden admin and you can see countries pulling away because of that..and now coming back because of trump.
Saif why don’t you do all the ads maybe half way or sprinkle them rather than heavy ads minutes long at beginning? I would have subscribed but the heavy ads at the beginning puts me off brother. Love the channel and topics by the way.
Massie is spot on about Road to Serfdom, by the end Hayek promotes a notion of world governance to safeguard the liberty principles. Total fail. The other red flag is that Keynes and Hayek were lifelong friends. They appeared to have propped up a false dichotomy of Keynes' Malthusian top-down governance vs Hayek's pure bottom-up governance where private vices magically leads to public virtues. The American System of Economics makes a ton more sense to me.
Ammous the constant argument is not good. If you take ratios between quantities the constant cancel. You just make measurement in terms of how a quantity changes relative to another. Constants are just a proportionality quantity. You can rescale them, and everything is the same. It is a very very weak argument.
The "running out of space/resources" problem shouldn't be laughed away IMO. It sucks because the loony tune lefties have ruined environmentalism, but biological populations grow exponentially until they run out of resources and establish a balance. We're still growing because we keep inventing new tech, but we're also consuming more valuable land that other megafauna could use. We've also impeded the migration patterns for thousands of species including the American Bison, who used to migrate from Mexico to Alaska every year.
RFK Jr. is campaigning on using blockchain and AI to reduce wasteful government spending. I've made a few comments about how I think he's pandering, and get attacked because "I just don't understand the technology". I do understand, and fail to see how these tools will help a system that already suffers from a lack of accurate data.
انت دارس وعندك علم وهناك خيارين لرأيي تجاهك .. إما انك لا تحب الخير للعرب ومستحي يكون عندك جمهور عربي .. وإما تتبهور بإن لديك علم وخوض بمجال الكريبتو وخلفك نصبه لا يعلمها الا الله .. وان كنت بطل رد على تعليقي وقل لي لما انت عربي ولاتجعل ولو فيديو واحد باللهجه العربيه واهي اصلك يااصيل !! .
Zionism is way more than just patriotism to Israel Thomas. That said, a long format of this would be 🔥. You two were just getting started near the end. 👍
To summarise the last part. You can't measure subjectivity. Like how do you measure love? Which unit would you use? Yet economist put subjectivity into mathematic formulas all the time. Like hedonic adjustments...
Love Thomas Massie we need more people like him
itll never happen.
need a different approach
Thomas is great. Was very sad to hear about the death of his wife last week. RIP
Two great men. Thank you Thomas, sorry for your loss.
Thomas Massie is practically the only current Congressman I respect. I was very sad to hear about his wife's passing recently. I hope he can manage to keep his head up.
Yes, one of maybe 5 that seem to take the duty seriously.
I got 100 utils of enjoyment from this conversation.
The world is a better place because of these two individuals.
This is when UA-cam needs a double thumbs up! What a great conversation between two based individuals.👍👍 (it is heartbreaking to think of this man having just lost his wife, probably just days after this conversation. 🙁 My condolences to Mr Massie. Thanks for all that you do for our country! Please take some time for yourself and your family. You are in my prayers.)
Awesome interview - Massie is one of the only politicians I admire, especially since he introduced the bill to End The Fed
It's magical when kindred spirits from different worlds can discuss ideas, agree on atrocities, disagree on mechanics and resolve that further study and discussion can be not only fruitful...but enjoyable. Wow...humanity at its best.
SAIFEDEAN ....You kick butt. I love your work. Thanks for standing on principals
Two of the humans I enjoy the most, together! Can't ask for more.
Been a big fan of Thomas Masseie for several years. He's the best
Sorry to hear about Mrs Massie.. Respect to her.
Holy shit, that was awesome!
Get this man on again ASAP 🔥
I dig that Massie dropped the challenge to all Austrian Economists. Not having a way to quantify and forecast economic models hasn’t been discovered YET. I believe that a brilliant mind such as Saifedeans can do it. There’s a noble prize in economics waiting…
Mr Massie is cut from a different cloth. Great conversation, if only the world had more politicians like him. Great work getting him on the Pod Saifedean!
Wow so cool having congressmen Massie on the show Saif!! Great interview, thank you!
Never enough Massie! Get this man in the White House
Thomas Massie for President!
Two great minds. Excellent interview and conversation. Well worth the time. Thanks!
"I would just speak in numbers if I thought people would enjoy the podcast"
very quick with it hahah, that was a great pod
Massies a good guy
I LOVED this conversation! THANK YOU!!!
Rep. Thomas Massie is the BEST. We are lucky to have someone like him to fight back against the LUNATICS.that are destroying this country. THANK YOU Rep. Thomas Massie!
Thanks, Saif and Thomas!
Couldn’t be happier to hear that back and forth. Epic shift in the Overton window. 🙌🏻
Awesome listen. Great conversation in all its parts. Will definitely come back for more. I consider myself somewhat of a maths person myself, have to say you two are amazing^1,000,000
This is great. Thank you both.
Massie is such a likable guy. 👍🏼
GREAT interview i thoroughly enjoyed it. and I LOVED Mr. Massie's definition of the lighting network
This was a great conversation. So rare to have intelligent people question each others thoughts.
In 1967, Iz rah el deliberately and systematically attacked the U.S.S. Liberty; killing 36 sailors and injuring 100s.
We need more men in politics like him Christ is king
Very sorry to hear about Mrs. Massie…. 🙏
My favorite part of the interview is when he calls Bowman a flaming idiot 🤣🤣🤣
Love Massie. I am sorry for his loss.
I enjoyed this conversation between two based, unapologetic individuals, Can't wait for the next discussion between them on human action and why mathematical equations can’t solve the complexity of human behavior.
This was excellent
Prayin for Thomas and his family
Great interview
We need more like Massie in our government
Great episode
Amazing podcast 👏
This conversation went over my head. I hope they get together again. Great hearing great minds disagree.
Great conversation ❤
@saifedean isn't BTC the economic constant?
And so begins congressman Massie’s decent down the Austrian economics rabbit hole
Praying for you Thomas Massie.
Massie is brilliant and the salt of the earth. Obviously, a danger to the Establishment.
I lost over $70k when everything started to tank. Not because I was in an exchange that went belly up. I was just stupid to hold and because that's what everyone said. I'm still responsible. It just taught me to be a better investor now that I understand more of what could go wrong. It took me over two years of being in the market, I'm really grateful I found one source to recover my money, at least $10k profits weekly. Thanks Natalie Strayer..
I'm surprised that you just mentioned Natalie Strayer here also Didn’t know she has been good to so many people too this is wonderful, i'm in my fifth trade with her and it has been super.
The very first time we tried, we invested $2000 and after a week, we received $9500. That really helped us a lot to pay up our bills.
Natalie Strayer has really set the standard for others to follow, we love her here in Canada 🇨🇦 as she has been really helpful and changed lots of life's
I'm new at this, please how can I reach her?
After I raised up to 125k trading with her I bought a new House and a car here in the states also paid for my son's surgery
Glory to God shalom.
I was honestly a little apprehensive about how these two personalities would mesh but wow was I way off. What a good conversation. I hope they find time for a follow up someday.
Thomas Massie is an absolute G.
Please discuss economic issues more often with these types of people.
That was fantastic.
Saifedean x Massie - a combination that makes the Fiat Overlords tremble… 👀👏
He kicks ass.
Awesome 🎉
You are both beautiful people,thank you.
Does anybody know when this was recorded?
This is great.
this was so nice
Good Stuff
Thomas Massie is a boss.
Massie for King.
Based Massie
When was this filmed
Love massie
Sorry for your loss, Rep. Massie. Anyone know what happened?
19:13 interestingly i agree with Massie here. When it comes to fiat, the most powerful Navy has always had the reserve currency.
USA, Great Britain, Spain, Portugal, etc
Does Mr. Massie sell the debt badges? I would love to put one in my office/car
Interesting bit on math and economics. On the individual level the value of anything will vary but the market price is the aggregate of all individuals. While no individual is exactly the same human behavior follows the Gaussian distribution. For the first time in history we have a fixed monetary unit that can better reflect that aggregate value. It won't be an exact science but it is as scientific as measuring the orbit of a planet around a sun x amount of light years away.
As much as I love Thomas Massie I don’t feel he understands how important it is to displace fiat.
What is the point of using blockchain for a centralized currency? It would be more efficient to just use a database.
Starts @3:30
...and then there is the mom who bought The Bitcoin Standard for all (5) of her adult children!
Just a point about the reserve currency being the dollar beside its liquidly ,the dollar was put into that position because the main reason was the political stability of the United States...compared to other countries..but that doesn't seem to be the case in the Biden admin and you can see countries pulling away because of that..and now coming back because of trump.
At least let's fix the unit of measure and base it on sats.
Acquire as many satoshis as possible while uneducated people still accept dollars for them 😉
Will Saifedean ever read and/or discuss “Hijacking Bitcoin”?
Law of marginal utility ftw
Saif why don’t you do all the ads maybe half way or sprinkle them rather than heavy ads minutes long at beginning? I would have subscribed but the heavy ads at the beginning puts me off brother. Love the channel and topics by the way.
"The world would benefit from another one or two Elon Musks"
And Saife just lets that one slide, what the hell?
(Statement between 7:00 and 8:00)
I thought they were going to kiss at the end lol
Great episode
As much as I love Saifedean Ammous I think he erroneously discounts how important being a “Medium of Exchange” MOE is.
R.I.P to his wife. I think there's a good chance we know how that happened....
yup
Very good speech on the Israel war crimes.
AIPAC off’d Massie’s wife.
THOMAS MASSIE,has built his whole political career on tiny $ 5-20 donations..
We know what they did
Massie is spot on about Road to Serfdom, by the end Hayek promotes a notion of world governance to safeguard the liberty principles. Total fail.
The other red flag is that Keynes and Hayek were lifelong friends. They appeared to have propped up a false dichotomy of Keynes' Malthusian top-down governance vs Hayek's pure bottom-up governance where private vices magically leads to public virtues.
The American System of Economics makes a ton more sense to me.
In impossible for economics predict satisfactions or decisions making that women will do, which are 50% of global population.
👀
Ammous the constant argument is not good. If you take ratios between quantities the constant cancel. You just make measurement in terms of how a quantity changes relative to another. Constants are just a proportionality quantity. You can rescale them, and everything is the same. It is a very very weak argument.
Love Massie but Kinsella PWNS him when it comes to IP
The "running out of space/resources" problem shouldn't be laughed away IMO. It sucks because the loony tune lefties have ruined environmentalism, but biological populations grow exponentially until they run out of resources and establish a balance. We're still growing because we keep inventing new tech, but we're also consuming more valuable land that other megafauna could use. We've also impeded the migration patterns for thousands of species including the American Bison, who used to migrate from Mexico to Alaska every year.
RFK Jr. is campaigning on using blockchain and AI to reduce wasteful government spending. I've made a few comments about how I think he's pandering, and get attacked because "I just don't understand the technology". I do understand, and fail to see how these tools will help a system that already suffers from a lack of accurate data.
Half of this is about Israel/Gaza
انت دارس وعندك علم وهناك خيارين لرأيي تجاهك .. إما انك لا تحب الخير للعرب ومستحي يكون عندك جمهور عربي .. وإما تتبهور بإن لديك علم وخوض بمجال الكريبتو وخلفك نصبه لا يعلمها الا الله .. وان كنت بطل رد على تعليقي وقل لي لما انت عربي ولاتجعل ولو فيديو واحد باللهجه العربيه واهي اصلك يااصيل !! .
لديه حرفيًا كتاب مجاني باللغة العربية
a vow of illiteracy ahahah
Zionism is way more than just patriotism to Israel Thomas. That said, a long format of this would be 🔥. You two were just getting started near the end. 👍
To summarise the last part. You can't measure subjectivity. Like how do you measure love? Which unit would you use? Yet economist put subjectivity into mathematic formulas all the time. Like hedonic adjustments...