I’m 71 and I’ve never sat through two hours of anything so transfixed as I just did listening to this conversation! Thank you Dr. Peterson, thank you Dr. Ammous, the internet just lived up to it’s potential !
Now Sir, if I may add: respectfully submit to act on this new knowledge. A friend of mine is 70 and recently purchased his first little part of Bitcoin. My mom in her 80s also bought a fraction of a Bitcoin. Bitcoin is for all of us.
@@Think-For-Yourself-Man This is the sell signal I've been waiting for. I got in early 2018 and recently sold it all. Comments like yours make me feel like it was perfectly timed.
The most important thing that should be on everyone mind currently should be to invest in different sources of income that doesn't depend on the government. Especially with the current economic crisis around the word. This is still a good time to invest in various stocks, Gold, silver and digital currencies.
I have been investing in stocks for over 10 years now and I have made a lot of money. My portfolio has grown exponentially and I can't thank stocks & ROCHELLE DUNGCA-SCHREIBER enough for such an amazing way to make money!
Watching Dr. Peterson process difficult concepts in real-time, while simultaneously making logical leaps forward to future implications, is impressive to say the least. What a brilliant mind.
A sharp mind more so. That is what makes him seem so exceptional. There are many brilliant minds out there who can not formulate their thoughts with words with the same grace as Peterson. Just be mindful of this as manipulation through words is easy for people like JP, with ill intentions.
I also believe he has a lot of courage to face things unknown to him, in such an honest manner. I am also thankful, for I have learned a lot in this discussion myself, being spared the time it takes to stumble upon them somehow else.
When to brilliant minds converge… and we are graced with the benefits… enriched… I feel as a flower garden must feel when all it’s weeds are picked. “Ahhhh .. thank you”
Have you ever wished that two people whom you greatly admire who are in different fields/realms find one another and have a conversation? Well, this just happened for me! Amazing!
Strange that the same people who control the progressive politicians the universities and CNN are the same people who promote Bitcoin, Climate Change and Covid .
Amazing how Peterson rephrases things and they become clearer than the original statements. I am surprised by his ability to grasp new concepts! congrats
Wow. I am blown away by this presentation. I was an insecure 59 year old on SS in January 2018 when I started buying Bitcoin/crypto. Everyone though I was irrational. Most still do. I put my income in every month and watched the value drop each month but for some reason really believed in Bitcoin and alt coins/blockchain even though I don't totally understand. Finally, the crypto market started turning around and I am astonished at the value of my crypto currency portfolio today. I engaged in active trading and managed to grow a nest egg of around 2.3B'tc to a decent 27B'tc....At the heart of this evolution is Donna Mikalonis, whose deep understanding of both cryptocurrency and traditional trading has been instrumental. Her holistic approach to investment and commitment to staying abreast of market trends make her an invaluable ally in navigating this new era in cryptocurrency investment...
Investing has proven to be an incredibly beneficial decision. My cryptocurrency profits continue to play a substantial role in growing my overall wealth, reducing my reliance on my salary.
I'm full time in crypto and economics stuff ... Jordan Peterson is damn smart. Can't believe he is figuring out these high level problems in an interview, live in front of us. This stuff took me like 3 months of daily watching just to absorb and understand inside out. Hes a machine
Until bitcoin is adopted by governments as a currency to pay TAX it will remain an asset, at the mercy of speculators & will always be subject to volitity. (boom & bust)
@@alistairgreen1272 there are already countries where the citizens use Bitcoin as currency without the governments permission (Nigeria), and countries where they use it with government sanction and even encouragement (El Salvador). There are businesses all over the world that accept it in payment of goods. Monetary phenomenon play out over entire lifetimes. Bitcoin will be the global standard within 20-30 years maybe sooner depending on how the cards fall for the Central Banks paper money experiment, a historical aberration lasting 100 years after millennia of hard money and primitive methods of debasement.
Every time you post I am reminded how lucky we are to have you back. I know the struggle you went through and so many cant win that fight. You continue to give me and I'm sure many others, hope when things seem hopeless. Thank you for being you.
“If you built a machine that was smart enough to predict it (the future), the existence of a machine that smart would change the way that the future would manifest itself in a way that that machine couldn’t predict” Absolutely fascinating. This is why I love listening to him talk.
Stocks are falling and bond yields are rising, but markets still don’t seem convinced the Federal Reserve will pursue plans to keep increasing interest rates until inflation is under control. I'm still at a crossroads deciding if to liquidate my $117k stocck portfolio, what’s the best way to take advantage of this bear market?
While there’s more pain to come, investors should look for stocks like Royal Philips NV and Alstom SA that have been beaten down enough that they’re a bargain or get a good portflio manager...
@Zahair O'Brian heard it's a good time to buy and basically I've just got cash sitting duck in the bank and I’d really love to put it to good use seeing how inflation is at an all time-high, who is this coach that guides you, mind I look them up
@Zahair O'Brian the crazy part is that advisors are probably outperforming the market and raising good returns. I will give this Patrice a look up, lucky i stumbled on this thread.
I love Dr. Peterson's inquisitive curiosity to the new knowledge he is obtaining and how this new information fits into his understanding of what exists. AWESOME CONVERSATION!!!!!!!
🙏🌹♥️I could not agree more with you Jacobsladder, about Dr. J. P. Tremendous level of inquisitiveness. I absolutely love the man’s openness and his love for Challenging ideas.
I love Peterson but I don't understand why he is so stumped by the need to reduce carbon emissions. Forget the grandiosity of "Climate Change", presumably we don't all want to live in smog. I live between Los Angeles and Las Vegas and it's blatantly obvious L.A. is engulfed in a giant smog cloud. Las Vegas hasn't quite got the smog cloud yet and it would be nice to keep it that way but if we are going to driving gas cars for another decade or two then the whole country will be as smoggy as Los Angeles.
It was excruciating. Having to listen to an economist talk about Bitcoin is like having to hear a chef's thoughts about farming. When Jordan asked actual questions about the functionality of Bitcoin he couldn't give a straight answer and deffered to the concept of Bitcoin rather than the function. Hair-pulling levels of frustration here.
What astonishing virtuosity. Their conversation reached the heights of intellectual stimulation. Fascinating information that opened the listener to whole new worlds of possibility and understanding. Dr Peterson's immediate grasp of the subject and curiosity untainted by prejudice is a model of what intellectual enquiry should be. Worth a few hours of anyone's time. Thank you so much to you both.
Dr.Peterson stumped Phd about the bitcoin inventor mysteriously gone. The bitcoin can disappear by being banned ie: China and Russia or some shenanigans like bringing in a cashless society in the USA.
The analogy used for the Byzantine Generals Problem basically goes like this: Several divisions of the Byzantine army are stationed just outside of an enemy city and are preparing for battle. Various generals can only communicate with each other via a messenger. They must agree upon a common course of action. However, we must assume that some generals are traitors who wish to prevent loyal generals from agreeing upon a common course of action. An algorithm is needed to ensure that a small group of traitors can’t disrupt communications. To solve the Byzantine Generals problem, loyal generals need a secure way to come to agreement on a plan (known as consensus) and carry out their chosen plan (known as coordination).
Good explanation, and to clarify; the generals are the nodes in the network, and the city is the block in the chain. If they succeed in capturing the enemy city by successfully agreeing on the time of attacking the city e.g. consensus of the network - then that would be an agreement on the current state of the blockchain.
@@ascendrio The city isn't the block. Consensus pieces of the offensive strategy are the blocks in a block chain. Just as the attribution of hash solving to a particular wallet (proof of work) is a block in a cryptocurrency block chain. Basically, with cryptocurrency such as Bitcoin, the solution to the Byzantine Generals problem is the block chain itself, a distributed ledger of who (which wallet; I.e., account) successfully solved a piece of the hashing algorithm and has been automatically compensated with commensurate units of Bitcoin, as well as keeping a ledger of all subsequent Bitcoin transactions between wallets.
I'd start off by saying they should've had a plan or several before even arriving. If this is not the first bout, why can't they just congregate for a split second after tactically retreating? I think horses were a thing then already. If they didn't think to call that before battle, what are they doing leading hundreds or thousands of people? They can't even manage getting several on the same track. And maybe, just maybe, if you're afraid of treachery from people in the know your plan isn't that good. Look inside of yourself Byzantine Emperor, you know this to be true.
@@PînnedByWatersAboveCrypto-m6x yea..i was wondering the same...but me thinks that he is a "shark" and is commenting on the contoversies of the world..in order to remain in the public eye...(sorry jordan ...but i calls it like i sees it)
Please get Dr. Ammous back on for more discussion on this, i was hooked listening to not only his experienced and interesting insight into crypto, but Dr. Peterson your ability to grasp quickly the concepts and appreciate the broad array of innovations bitcoin the infrastructure can bring. Awesome!
@@mcdust144 Yes. And you use THAT to buy an even worse scam. They're doing you worse off of on another bad ripoff, you get ripped off twice, not just once [if you bought into Bitcoin, like lots of SUCKER MFERS DID]. Bitcoin is redundant and accomplishes nothing. You get taxed with 'fees'. They don't even have the dollars accounted for. They're not there. Dollars aren't in the accounts if people cash out. Sorry.
Two brilliant minds with overlapping viewpoints but expertise in very different fields. What makes this conversation especially engaging is how intellectually honest they both are. They think critically and deeply, and they analyze these related concepts and questions in ways that others do not. I loved the last conversation JP had about Bitcoin, and this one is even better. Thank you.
Absolutely amazing discussion. Have been HODLing and learning about bitcoin for 1.5 years, and this video still managed to get me to look at this topic from new angles. Jordan, it's amazing how fast you grasp these complex topics - we can actually see you light-up as you do. Priceless.
@The Southern Cross majority advantage of what? Only thing that they have majority advantage of is price discovery. The same is said for every other asset class that has emerged in history.
Building wealth involves developing good habits like regularly putting money away in intervals for solid investments. Financial management is a crucial topic that most tend to shy away from, and ends up haunting them in the near future… I pray that anyone who is reading this will be successful in his or her life!!!
I’m celebrating a $30k stock portfolio today. I started this journey with 6k. I have invested on time and also with the right terms now I have time for my family and the life ahead of me
How fast Dr. Peterson picked up on the magnitude of the stranded energy problem was really fun to watch. Truly a bright mind to understand it so quickly just from a small comment by Saifedean.
Agreed. I've always thought that JBP's greatest ability is actually that of being able to listen to exactly what the other person is saying in a conversation.
I'm really happy you are hosting Austrian economists and the libertarian types. I would really suggest talking to Jeff Deist, president of the Mises Institute. He has such a great thought-process around these big ideas and he's a great speaker.
@@sergiootero5904 if you have any logical sense of economics you literally HAVE to be a libertarian, if you have any logical sense of morality you also literally have to be a libertarian. Most people who aren’t simply haven’t studied enough
@@tanjoy0205 That's because you're only looking short term. Just like he said, your time preference is messed up due to the fiat conditioning. You have to look 3-5, 10, 15 years. You are only looking at it day to day because you are hoping to spend the money tomorrow or next month. You have to reprogram your mind to think long term, look long term, the elites think like that, we have to start doing that as well. Peace
This was one of the best if not THE best conversations I’ve ever listened to. Testimony is …I’ve shared this with more people than any other podcast. Everyone reading this needs to do the same. The number of revelations to me and JBP were astounding. Pure gold…pun intended.
I tried doing this. But, it backfired... In a way that people already made up their minds on bitcoin....and nothing I could say or send would change their point of view.
A brilliant discussion. JBP’s ability to guide the dialogue, ask pertinent questions and interject his own ideas makes it way above the level of typical online discussions. I have recommended this discussion to several people who have all found it very informative.
I would prefer listening to a conversation with these two over eating in a five-star restaurant any day! I loved every minute of it, especially watching JP's expressions of amazement when they talked about monetizing cheap energy. I've read The Bitcoin Standard, which was a mind altering book. Waiting excitedly on my copy of The Fiat Standard!
Such a rare pleasure in this age of simplistic, rushed, ill-informed, pseudo debate. A conversation based on respect and the exchange of ideas and pursuit of knowledge. All with the space and time to truly blossom. Sadly a rarity in this world.
Dr. Peterson did a fantastic job in this interview. Many of his questions were almost childlike, in the best sense of the word. He asked basic questions and came to the interview almost as if he were a blank slate on the subject. A very thoughtful discussion came out of this approach.
Dr. J Peterson, You have exposed 8 million people to the most important conversation in the human realm. I have appreciated your principled position and stand for humanity greatly. Thank you! ☮
I love how that finnally Saifadean was able to explain what other "experts" wasn't able to do, austrian economics and its features on bitcoin. I love it!
It’s literally because the other guys don’t actually understand the things they claimed to. I’m still on the outside of Bitcoin as a concept because of the primary reason of how value is determined, and I’m unconvinced that any tech is simply impervious. Coming from the world of tech a basic concept is nothing is without fault or vulnerability. It’s just a matter of time and effort.
@@racegod69 you should look more into it. It interesting stuff. It's security relies more on economic incentives and the rest is cryptographic verification.
The conversation that took place between the two of these amazing free thinkers was as close to "The Theory of Everything" as I have ever witnessed. I am grateful for both your contribution to humanity. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
Beyond Order. I’d say this is a fitting title for where Jordan’s going as an important figure. He’s built his orderly public persona to the masses so we know he understands the importance of traditional hierarchies now he’s doing deep learning about how these hierarchies have become corrupt so he can do his best to fix them.
And, to build on your statement; We can all take note and pay attention so that when the time comes to make decisions about how to move forward towards a better tomorrow, we can be better equipped to have the conversations that we need to have in order to do so.
@MassAdoption 2022 Love this idea but how does it benefit, beyond the financial reward, unless the energy can be recouped or converted back from the produced bitcoin where it is ultimately needed?
Great question, I'd wondered about this too. My thoughts: money is the highest form of energy, able to convert human time / labor / skill into any other form of energy (mechanical, transportation, or the literal energy in your wall socket). So, if monetary energy is captured from stranded sources, and used to secure the bitcoin network, which secures people's wealth (who live in more populated areas), those people can convert that secured monetary energy into any other form, knowing that the miners have their property secured. Secure private property allows humanity to flourish without the concern that their time/energy will be stolen or inflated away. So the stranded energy is used for a net good when it secures people's monetary energy in the bitcoin network.
Stranded energy. Energy is mainly generated to bring to market. However, when energy is too expensive to transport and sell in the open market it is considered stranded. There are plenty of known cases of active dams in highly remote locations where hydroelectric energy can be extracted but was never developed because building out that infrastructure to transport the energy to the closest large population was not cost effective (more expensive to build than the revenue of the sale of said energy). Bitcoin fixes that by monetizing that energy locally, by way of Bitcoin mining, without the expense of building transporting infrastructure.
A brilliant, fascinating and important discussion for our time. It left me breathless with all I learned. Thank you, Dr Peterson and Dr Ammous for waking up my 73 year old brain cells. Whenever I listen to JP I feel smarter. xo
I had studied Austrian Economics about 13 years ago. Listened to countless lectures, read a dozen or more books and pretty much knew what that school was going to say before they said it. Burnt out to the point where I didn't really pay attention to the for about five years. Who else but Peterson to bring them back into my life?
I was in the middle of this debate in college back in 2010 with all my friends who studied Austrian Economics. Unfortunately, I listened to the naysayers at the time like Peter Schiff, who accurately predicted the national real estate crash, and Gary North. I ignored the likes of Max Keiser, who I respected and admired. I have regretted that decision for a long time.
@@DeRothschild oef.. ignoring Max haha good luck with that.. Personally I don't get why some talk bad about him. He is a raw, thoughtful and unfiltered source of knowledge and I think he has his heart in a good place, yup he can comment you, me or others, and that can feel shocking to some that instantly go into war mode.. instead of listening to what he says and maybe rethink your point, explain better or grow a extra pair. Because people who just give it to you straight are scarce in this world full of greed and lies. And to people that say he's weird, I say, everybody that looks normal is acting
@@wichard9097 This was back in the early days of Bitcoin. There was a lot of uncertainty about it back then, and initially, Max was very critical of Bitcoin, if I recall correctly. I guess hindsight is 20/20. However, I'm fortunate I was aware of it early, and have been able to analyze it for a decade, and have been able to profit handsomely by investing in it.
His books and podcasts should be mandatory reading and listening to ALL economics students!! The information he provided has been eye opening to say the least.
Honest question, we know the dollar is backed by "nothing" but the nukes. The more nukes, the more "power" you have, hence why China makes more nukes and air carriers. What's your argument to that?
Time flies by when you’re captivated and inspired by a conversation. Brilliant minds in a open free genuine discussion that knocks you back to rethink why we are here. Thank you, Jordan & Saifedean, so grateful of your time!
@@USGrant21st they don't talk about bitcoin market price at the time of conversation and they don't give you buy signals. But if someone was stupid enough to buy btc at the market without knowledge and experience needed to understand when to buy, well, I hope that will teach him/her.
I’m like a little kid on Xmas morning! These two men have indirectly helped me build a life I couldn’t have previously imagined. Incredibly grateful to hear a conversation between two revolutionary leaders/thinkers. 🙏🏻
Thank you Jordan and Saifedean - until listening to this I was unable to gain the right perspective about Bitcoin, and now I do. I'm well and truly down the rabbit hole at 60!
Wow... this really pulls apart the wise from the smart, I have known of the topics mentioned for a long time but never reached the depth or complexity that you both showed in this conversation. Now knowing what is it that's really happening with cryptocurrencies, currencies, governments and fiat related stuff, it really blows my mind that this insanity and genius is happening right in front of our eyes, unfolding as it is happening. I am really glad and thankful for this video and the discussion that happened here! Thank you very much for enlightening us, Dr. Peterson and Dr. Ammous!
This podcast reminded me of a story my grandma once told me about her childhood. I had seen that she had a dollar bill on her bulletin board, and I had asked her why it was there. She explained to me that at a certain point when her parents had very little money, my great grandpa pinned up a single dollar bill on their wall and said that as long as they kept that bill right where it was, they would never run out of money.
Unbelievable, absolutely unbelievable! ❤️ I have practically no education. I am old, disabled by a very rare disease. I have also lived and worked abroad. Met people from different walks of life I see hope for the future and am always on the optimistic side. It wasn't always like that in my turbulent life! recently I hear when it seems that hope is almost lost, I will still hope! Never give up, the best is yet to come!
I love how Jordan Peterson doesn´t know certain things, but he instantly predicts and understands the answers and their principles. This man is just excellent at thinking.
Vox Day accurately describes exactly what Jordan Peterson is. Unfortunately, people that are not that smart are easily taken by smooth talkers, like Barack Obama, who use their articulate and intelligent demeanors to hide the fact that they are nothing but empty, since pushing for other men’s agendas behind the scenes. Jordan Peterson has written all sorts of things for the UN, and if you read them, you will see what his true evil nature is.
Holy moly, I have learned in this video more than I have learned in any cours I have taken in my life. Jordan B is doing an excellent job. His guest is such a great intellect. Decentralisation of accreditation in education is one of the most important ideas they talked about. Very interesting
It took me about 2-3 years studying bitcoin & Austrian economics to reach the level of understanding JBP reaches in a couple hours here with Saif, a pleasure to watch!
This dialogue is an absolute must-see, especially for people new to the crypto market. Prof. Peterson brilliantly shows open-minded curiosity about a topic he has little experience in. Excellent watch!
Already know this is going to be a fantastic episode I'm so excited. I've been waiting for Dr Peterson to do some more episodes concerning Bitcoin since his first.
@@shabbywabbythewatermelon6269 is digital assets investor have a website?Thanks for posting your comment I'm grateful.... I haven't jumped on the Bitcoin train, I really need to understand and learn more about it.
@@foxontherun4844 totally always gotta do your own research, he's got a UA-cam channel it's digital asset investor. I will say this XRP is still under a bull sh*t lawsuit. When it's over with the SEC they will be going public and on demand liquidity for banks, corporations, govts go live. (Patented) also has patents with bank of America, Goldman, and I believe Wells Fargo. Listen to Tim draper talk to Gary gensler years back if you can find the clip. It's what's happening now suing competition, planting press stories and getting all the corrupt buddies to all gang up on it. Funny thing though is deepstate is trying to protect Bitcoin and Ethereum from decentralized global better tech that comes from San Francisco. CTO of XRP also wrote Bitcoin patent in 1988 but idea came from Marxist/ socialist Henry Ford
@@shabbywabbythewatermelon6269 Ohhh, so you're part of the XRP marketing machine then? And a conspiracy nut if you think "the idea [for Bitcoin] came from Marxist / socialist Henry Ford". The channel you recommend is simply shilling for XRP.
Not sure you'd be crying tears of joy if the economy collapsed because we put this man's ruinous economic ideas into practice. What would happen? Firstly, the US government would need to cut spending by a trillion dollars (the deficit) . This would lead to an immediate recession as well as means severe cuts to essential services like police, fire, child services, etc... The US already had D rated infrastructure. On top of this, most money creation actually comes from commercial banks and NOT the government. Its an outright lie based in ideology to claim it is. Someone with his qualifications must know that? If commercial banks cannot create money, then how on earth will people buy homes? Banks don't have enough reserves to cover demand. This also means no business and start up loans. This would lead to collapsed construction industry as people cannot afford homes without mortgages. People really have to think these things through a bit more. Money creation is an essential part of the economy. It quite literally pays to keep civilisation going and people like this guy are trying to undermine that system, and in turn, society. Rich countries are rich because they have central banks. Poor countries are often poor as they lack this ability. The monetary system is a miracle and important civilisational advance.
@@mdaniels6311 It quite literally does not pay to advance the way we are, because we are only thinking short term. Let the US fall, let all governments fall and be rebuilt. You think suffering won't get worse in either case? The system you are praising, is indirectly responsible for this. Change is never fun or pretty, but it's necessary.
@@mdaniels6311the economy as we know it is over leveraged and just because we will have to suffer the consequences of leaving the US’ terrible monetary policy doesn’t mean we should continue to suffer the consequences of staying within it. sometimes change means things get worse in the short term
@@mdaniels6311can you explain to me how my money can keep up with inflation any other way.? How about Argentina where their fiat value changes by the hour. The United States has triple digit deficits that drives mass inflation. Apparently it’s the riches country by counterfeit. Bitcoin can not be counterfeit. The majority are all getting poorer and poorer by the day internationally. With the exception of The 1% not so much. Since the conception of bitcoin the value has increased by 1000% can you point me in the right direction to another savings avenue that performs on that level that has zero volatility? Bitcoin can be volatile for sure. But 1000% now? The CBDC is coming and people will want control of what they THINK! Is theirs? I say think because you can not move 1 million dollars across boarders and not have it taken away because governments control your money. I can not e-transfer you $50,000 if I wanted to my money is controlled. It’s not really yours at all then is it? If you have absolutely no say in your money. I’ve experienced a frozen account with $100;000 from a house sale. I was treated like a criminal till the 10 days of clearance by bank and government aka regulation could verify I’m not a cartel or terrorist. I was frozen solid. Couldn’t even buy a coffee for 10 days. It is sovereignty at its finest and once you understand that concept the world will be in a better place.
every $1 you invest today is a little bit of time that you buy back in the future, the more you invest, the more free time you can afford in the future, having time and the freedom to choose what to do are the ultimate investing goals.
i've had people say to me they didint know you can start investing with small amount of money. they 100% can and a $1 start is better than nothing at all.
@@chris-pj7rk Nothing is too small to start with, i don’t just buy/trade anything for the sake of it, I seek the guidance of 'Katherine Rae Lobe' who has made me understand that strategy is everything, her strategy has brought 15x returns so far this year. I copy her trades in real time which i can confidently say i am impressed.
Dr. Peterson learning crypto quite fast! It took me years! Glad to see him going down the rabbit hole, as a Libertarian it really puts together the concepts of philosophy of money and economics, with the current political environment and the major issues that affect our way of life today. What I'd like to also say, is that other cryptocurrencies - seeing them as companies is a good interpretation, they are not competing against bitcoin but they are not useless; they are competing decentralized platforms to the current central platforms we have today using core tenants of crytography, namely decentralization and giving power back to the people. The genius of this is using the "shares" of the company as also the "currency" of the company, so the customers ARE the shareholders.
What a an absolutely wonderful time listening to two of the brightest and most common sense, practical people I follow. Please carry on these conversations. Brilliant!
I really appreciate Peterson being brave enough to engage with ideas that he doesn’t immediately understand and may not come naturally to him. Pretty rare today.
@@rv4tyler Yeah, but obviously TV is dead. The future is web3, blockchain and independent content creators, hence the growth of youtube in the past decade. :) Joe Rogan has more views on his podcast than most TV shows do, which is ofcourse incredible! :D If you’re intrested in stuff like this, theres a great book by a swedish philosopher Alexander Bard, it’s called Digital Libido, it’s quite the read.
@Richard C technically it does move energy across time and space given the fact that the energy exerted at mining is stored in another form of energy(monetary energy BTC). Energy is neither created or lost but transformed from one form to another.
@@racitup4114 Money is literally stored energy. Its literally a physical/digital manifestation of work sir. It's not a made up thing, it's just what it is. I get you don't like it but it's an apt/alternate description of what money is.
@@racitup4114 Work is energy, i think you're a victim of fiat education thinking it isn't. The computer science breakthrough called Proof of work is literally exerting computational power in form of heat energy to deter DDoS attacks. They called exerting energy proof of work. This is where trying to sound smart makes you sound dumb sir. Do better.
@@racitup4114 I see what you're saying now. I wasn't speaking in terms of bitcoin literally storing the energy expended in proof of work. I mean't it represents the energy expended, so maybe i shouldn't have used literal but in a philosophical sense. You're right and i was wrong, my apologies. You're correct that energy in action is work and work is our ability to exert force. But i thought raw energy itself is intangible?
Dr. Peterson is a great moderator, his questions permit a wider and deeper exchange - thanks to each of you I'm better informed, regardless of the Bitcoin bias.
"The game theory analogy behind the Byzantine Generals Problem is that several generals are besieging Byzantium. They have surrounded the city, but they must collectively decide when to attack. If all generals attack at the same time, they will win, but if they attack at different times, they will lose. The generals have no secure communication channels with one another because any messages they send or receive may have been intercepted or deceptively sent by Byzantium’s defenders. How can the generals organize to attack at the same time?" -- Source: River Financial website
Blows my mind how I found you back in 2016, went to your shows watched you psychology videos as I got my undergraduate degree, then when the world recoiled to covid and you fell ill, I became infatuated wit crypto. To see it come full circle is amazing as you know see the wonders and potential of economic freedom apart from government rule. I LOVE YOU JBP!
It is so refreshing to watch someone who is genuinely intellectually curious grapple with the multidisciplinary concepts that Bitcoin encompasses and come out the other side understanding its potential for the future. Wonderful interview. Congratulations to you both.
Why am I only finding this a year after it was posted. Awesome discussion and observations on the corrupting power of Fiat money. Thank goodness for Bitcoin.
This conversation is the definition of giving true value. I fall into the bitcoin rabbit hole several month ago. Watching somebody live as he is getting an idea of bitcoin on such a high level was a hell of a pleasure. Cheers from Germany
This was the most refreshing conversation I can recall. Immensely impressed and proud of the intellectual avenues you went down Dr. Peterson. Thank you for your intellectual honesty in a world with it few and far between. I look forward to your other works as I have just stumbled upon you.
I love this conversation. Dr Petersson is actually one of the best hosts I have ever seen. Clever questions, give the guest space to answer and gives feedback and truly listens to the guest. Dr Petersson is as great as a host as he is as a guest.
Imagine the day when Jordan understands that bitcoin not only transfers energy across the world at the speed of light without any wires, but also across time, into the distant future, with 0% leakage, making it the most efficient battery in human history.
It's only as efficient as what anyone at a given time is willing to pay or trade for it. It has no inherent charge or energy. And it doesn't have zero leakage in any way if you're going to stick with that analogy. If you buy it now for 60 grand and send it to your pal a month from now and in three months he goes to "use the miraculous stored energy" of this perfect battery, but it's only selling for 30 grand now, he has experienced a 50 percent "energy loss".
Get Jeff Booth on next! He’s a Canadian entrepreneur who has very good insight into technology, climate change, bitcoin, and most importantly how all those things are interacting with one another. Would make a great discussion!
Just finished the book. What an amazing read. If you ever found yourself, like me my entire life, scratching your head at the explanations of so-called economists about why money works the way it does, The Bitcoin Standard will reshape your view of currency in the world and show you why it never made sense to you.
Dr. Peterson, your ability to extract wisdom out of the minds of people is out of this world. This was one of the best interviews I have ever seen. Thank you.
31:27 We have to remember that a complex problem may have many differing issues where their independent solutions could contradict one another. Excellent point as always!
I have an immense appreciation for people like you who so generously share insight, thoughts, questions, and discourse openly. Thank you. It was very helpful as a springboard for seeking out more information.
Successful people don't become that way overnight. What most people see as a glance of wealth, a great career, and purpose is the result of hard work and hustle over time. I pray that anyone who is reading this will be successful in life❤❤
Fabulous interview. I never realized what a profoundly skilled interviewer Jordon Peterson actually is. He is so committed to fully understanding the guest’s point of view, and to establishing clarity on that understanding that deep learning on behalf of the viewer is paramount end result. Thank you, J. P., you are a gift to the science of logical thinking.
I'm new to Bitcoin trading and I find it difficult using these strategies well. Where can I find a legit broker? than will manage my account and also teach me how to trade.
There's enough depth and density of valuable content and knowledge to create an entire course out of this conversation. Not just on the subject but also the beautiful interaction between these two esteemed thought leaders and intellectuals on a journey to truly understand how our complex world works. Thanks for spreading the light.
I'm new to forex trade and I have making huge losses but recently I see a lot of people earning from it. can someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong
Watching one of my favourite people in the world get orange-pilled, is a true pleasure. JBP will be a powerful asset for Bitcoin/sound money, and the benefits it brings the world.
This was one of the most captivating interviews I’ve ever heard. Bravo to Dr. Peterson for asking the types of questions I, and surely many others, were stricken with along the way during the Saifedean’s thoroughly insightful lecture. A++ listen.
I still dont understand how fractional reserve banking is supposed to work. How can you invest 90% of a banks money and guarantee gains from it. Where does that money come from? Money is zero sum, so it has to come from somewhere....does it come from growth? Then what happens at a time like now when population isnt growing as fast? Seems like a huge problem without a solution.
Like so many of the posters here, I really, really enjoyed the conversation. I loved the fact that Jordan was humble and curious enough to ask questions that I think most of us wanted answers to. And the responses by Saifedean were so clear and illustrative! It was such a pleasure to have 2 engaging, articulate and intelligent individuals discuss this nebulous (to me) technology. And how it relates to so many things that are affecting modern society and government really answered some questions I've wondered about since I was young.
Wow, Truly that was Amazing. Dying to read the Fiat standard, The Bitcoin standard was sensational, a truly must read for every crypto investor or anyone looking to understand the big picture of Bitcoin. Well done guys, When round 2!?! 👏
Dear Dr Peterson, love your interviews and how you address your guests. It's always a pleasure to listen to your conversations as everytime I learn something new. Thank you very much!
Loved learning more about Bitcoin here. Super heavy into crypto but embarrassingly have pretty much avoided Bitcoin or learning about Bitcoin. I will say there's much more to be said about DeFi, smart contracts, NFTs and other new technology being forged on other chains. This is an incredibly exciting space, can't wait to see where it goes.
Learn this, Peterson should know better by now. I'd like an update. 'Bitcoin', is not a 'coin' nor is it a 'currency'. 'Intrinsically', it is worth less than air- and ACTUALLY pollutes it [Bitcoin 'mining' consumes lots of energy, and it's actually not 'mining' at all, it's a waste of energy]. The Bitcoin logo is a gold coin with two lines through it. But it's not digital gold at all. It's a waste of scarce energy. To buy in, you pay with 'fiat' currency, lets say.. US Dollars. You will also pay a fee in US Dollars to have an amount of US Dollars 'converted' to Bitcoin. That money will be tied up until you 'sell' it or 'convert' it back. You will be charged a fee for this action as well. The price of Bitcoin goes up as more people buy in to it with fiat given the supply remains the same. That is what gives it its value, people paying fiat for 'Bitcoin'. 'Fiat' is vital to the propagation of 'Bitcoin'. That's how it is appraised- its appraisal is in fiat itself, making it extremely redundant and wasteful. This happens despite many energy shortages exist around the world and many people struggle to stay warm.
@AvatarVids You must not have liked what I suggested. You must be a ditzy blonde.. 'lady', I would think. Bitcoin is obtained by buying it with fiat. It's fiat with an added redundancy. You must've bought in to that scam, you ladies' man!.. or girl? Are you trans? What do you mean? Read your comment out loud to yourself and figure out what you meant, then let me know in a more concise fashion. You are detached from reality. Real apples are valuable, virtual apples... not so much. Good luck. Take your meds, sweetie.
@AvatarVids You communicate as if you haven't made it through grammar school. You poor child, you traded value for pollution. Bitcoin is not something as practical as the current fiat. It's just that simple. It's not as practical as Visa or MasterCard either, you poor child. You hypocrite. You poor creature. You bought in and got bamboozled. What a foolish little thing you are.
This was probably my most enjoyable discussion. Thank you so much for hosting me, Dr. Peterson!
Saifedean will go down in history for writing the most legendary book I have ever read! Thank you Dr Ammous for everything you do!
Great book I loved it! Shout out to crypto Jebb he recommended it on his show
Two legends together, amazing 💪🔥
Can't wait to finish listening.
Thank you for all you’ve done for the community sir. Concept of Low time preference has materially improved my life.
I’m 71 and I’ve never sat through two hours of anything so transfixed as I just did listening to this conversation! Thank you Dr. Peterson, thank you Dr. Ammous, the internet just lived up to it’s potential !
Now Sir, if I may add: respectfully submit to act on this new knowledge. A friend of mine is 70 and recently purchased his first little part of Bitcoin. My mom in her 80s also bought a fraction of a Bitcoin. Bitcoin is for all of us.
@@Think-For-Yourself-Man This is the sell signal I've been waiting for. I got in early 2018 and recently sold it all. Comments like yours make me feel like it was perfectly timed.
@@ieradossantos you got the price you deserved
@@ieradossantos - Nah, it won’t crash yet.
Not until the day after I buy some.
@@ieradossantos This comment in a year or two will not age well 😄
This is one of the most important conversations today... and thank God prof. Peterson is taking it seriously.
The most important thing that should be on everyone mind currently should be to invest in different sources of income that doesn't depend on the government. Especially with the current economic crisis around the word. This is still a good time to invest in various stocks, Gold, silver and digital currencies.
I have been investing in stocks for over 10 years now and I have made a lot of money. My portfolio has grown exponentially and I can't thank stocks & ROCHELLE DUNGCA-SCHREIBER enough for such an amazing way to make money!
Watching Dr. Peterson process difficult concepts in real-time, while simultaneously making logical leaps forward to future implications, is impressive to say the least. What a brilliant mind.
A sharp mind more so. That is what makes him seem so exceptional. There are many brilliant minds out there who can not formulate their thoughts with words with the same grace as Peterson. Just be mindful of this as manipulation through words is easy for people like JP, with ill intentions.
I also believe he has a lot of courage to face things unknown to him, in such an honest manner. I am also thankful, for I have learned a lot in this discussion myself, being spared the time it takes to stumble upon them somehow else.
When to brilliant minds converge… and we are graced with the benefits… enriched… I feel as a flower garden must feel when all it’s weeds are picked. “Ahhhh .. thank you”
*two*
@@GameLorePage You expect us to believe Jordan Peterson has ill-intentions?
Have you ever wished that two people whom you greatly admire who are in different fields/realms find one another and have a conversation? Well, this just happened for me! Amazing!
Strange that the same people who control the progressive politicians the universities and CNN are the same people who promote Bitcoin, Climate Change and Covid .
Can you elaborate on that?
Yes!
Both titans in the field of "eating as much steak as humanly possible."
I agree, and this first happened to me when I saw Paul Saladino, MD, a carnivore diet expert, interview Saifedean Ammous a few months back.
Amazing how Peterson rephrases things and they become clearer than the original statements.
I am surprised by his ability to grasp new concepts! congrats
Yes because Peterson is smart and the guy who has the PhD seems lists and flip flops between ideas. So Peterson has to bring him on the track.
He's just fucking brilliant, love JP so much
Yah, it’s very enlightening and entertaining too
there are a lot of connections waiting to fall into place...
A lot of the questions he's asking are things he already knows and he's just asking / answering for the audiences benefit..
Wow. I am blown away by this presentation. I was an insecure 59 year old on SS in January 2018 when I started buying Bitcoin/crypto. Everyone though I was irrational. Most still do. I put my income in every month and watched the value drop each month but for some reason really believed in Bitcoin and alt coins/blockchain even though I don't totally understand. Finally, the crypto market started turning around and I am astonished at the value of my crypto currency portfolio today. I engaged in active trading and managed to grow a nest egg of around 2.3B'tc to a decent 27B'tc....At the heart of this evolution is Donna Mikalonis, whose deep understanding of both cryptocurrency and traditional trading has been instrumental. Her holistic approach to investment and commitment to staying abreast of market trends make her an invaluable ally in navigating this new era in cryptocurrency investment...
@DonnaMikalonis
she's mostly on Telegrams, using the user name
The internet is filled with so many useful information about Donna Mikalonis crypto..
The fact that I got to learn and earn from her program is everything to me think about it, it's a win-win for both ways.
Investing has proven to be an incredibly beneficial decision. My cryptocurrency profits continue to play a substantial role in growing my overall wealth, reducing my reliance on my salary.
I'm full time in crypto and economics stuff ... Jordan Peterson is damn smart. Can't believe he is figuring out these high level problems in an interview, live in front of us. This stuff took me like 3 months of daily watching just to absorb and understand inside out. Hes a machine
Yes, that is amazing indeed.
it took me three years of research!
Until bitcoin is adopted by governments as a currency to pay TAX it will remain an asset, at the mercy of speculators & will always be subject to volitity. (boom & bust)
@@alistairgreen1272 there are already countries where the citizens use Bitcoin as currency without the governments permission (Nigeria), and countries where they use it with government sanction and even encouragement (El Salvador). There are businesses all over the world that accept it in payment of goods. Monetary phenomenon play out over entire lifetimes. Bitcoin will be the global standard within 20-30 years maybe sooner depending on how the cards fall for the Central Banks paper money experiment, a historical aberration lasting 100 years after millennia of hard money and primitive methods of debasement.
I can say this about Dr. Peterson; he's no joke, man.
Every time you post I am reminded how lucky we are to have you back. I know the struggle you went through and so many cant win that fight. You continue to give me and I'm sure many others, hope when things seem hopeless. Thank you for being you.
So true
“If you built a machine that was smart enough to predict it (the future), the existence of a machine that smart would change the way that the future would manifest itself in a way that that machine couldn’t predict” Absolutely fascinating. This is why I love listening to him talk.
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So it wouldn't be a machine smart enough to predict the future
@@ieradossantos i was lloking for this cmment lol
If such a machine existed, would we be in the Matrix?
Currently the future is being invented, not predicted or left to it's own accord. It's an unfortunate circumstance.
Stocks are falling and bond yields are rising, but markets still don’t seem convinced the Federal Reserve will pursue plans to keep increasing interest rates until inflation is under control. I'm still at a crossroads deciding if to liquidate my $117k stocck portfolio, what’s the best way to take advantage of this bear market?
While there’s more pain to come, investors should look for stocks like Royal Philips NV and Alstom SA that have been beaten down enough that they’re a bargain or get a good portflio manager...
@Zahair O'Brian heard it's a good time to buy and basically I've just got cash sitting duck in the bank and I’d really love to put it to good use seeing how inflation is at an all time-high, who is this coach that guides you, mind I look them up
@Zahair O'Brian the crazy part is that advisors are probably outperforming the market and raising good returns. I will give this Patrice a look up, lucky i stumbled on this thread.
I love Dr. Peterson's inquisitive curiosity to the new knowledge he is obtaining and how this new information fits into his understanding of what exists. AWESOME CONVERSATION!!!!!!!
Yup. Next, he needs to interview Jeff Booth, author of The Price of Tomorrow. That would be a great follow up to this conversation.
Agree. If wish I could do that more consistently.
🙏🌹♥️I could not agree more with you Jacobsladder, about Dr. J. P. Tremendous level of inquisitiveness.
I absolutely love the man’s openness and his love for Challenging ideas.
He is also very quick to ask highly relevant questions to better his understanding.
I love Peterson but I don't understand why he is so stumped by the need to reduce carbon emissions. Forget the grandiosity of "Climate Change", presumably we don't all want to live in smog. I live between Los Angeles and Las Vegas and it's blatantly obvious L.A. is engulfed in a giant smog cloud. Las Vegas hasn't quite got the smog cloud yet and it would be nice to keep it that way but if we are going to driving gas cars for another decade or two then the whole country will be as smoggy as Los Angeles.
You’ve made my Mondays exponentially better. Thank you for adding interesting conversation to my boring warehouse job🙏
Would be nice if Q4 would show the same results in candles
buy bitcoin so you can eventually quit the warehouse job
@@Taigirr what I thought. Probably he won't stay in the warehouse for that long.
buy some bitcoin my good man, we are here with open arms for all of Petersons followers
@@lord_voldemort44 ... being bagholders first and later on in profits second ;)
This was brilliant. I’m glad Peterson got someone who properly understands economics to answer his questions.
It was excruciating. Having to listen to an economist talk about Bitcoin is like having to hear a chef's thoughts about farming. When Jordan asked actual questions about the functionality of Bitcoin he couldn't give a straight answer and deffered to the concept of Bitcoin rather than the function. Hair-pulling levels of frustration here.
@@Daffmeister187 you must be a programmer...
What astonishing virtuosity. Their conversation reached the heights of intellectual stimulation. Fascinating information that opened the listener to whole new worlds of possibility and understanding. Dr Peterson's immediate grasp of the subject and curiosity untainted by prejudice is a model of what intellectual enquiry should be. Worth a few hours of anyone's time. Thank you so much to you both.
Dr.Peterson stumped Phd about the bitcoin inventor mysteriously gone. The bitcoin can disappear by being banned ie: China and Russia or some shenanigans like bringing in a cashless society in the USA.
Pseudo intellectualism at its best.
@@McDonaldsCalifornia this guy thinks he's smarter than Jordan
@@McDonaldsCalifornia look an angry sjw appears!
@@yoma2977 on this subject he is, most likely
The analogy used for the Byzantine Generals Problem basically goes like this: Several divisions of the Byzantine army are stationed just outside of an enemy city and are preparing for battle. Various generals can only communicate with each other via a messenger. They must agree upon a common course of action. However, we must assume that some generals are traitors who wish to prevent loyal generals from agreeing upon a common course of action. An algorithm is needed to ensure that a small group of traitors can’t disrupt communications. To solve the Byzantine Generals problem, loyal generals need a secure way to come to agreement on a plan (known as consensus) and carry out their chosen plan (known as coordination).
Thank you!
Good explanation, and to clarify; the generals are the nodes in the network, and the city is the block in the chain. If they succeed in capturing the enemy city by successfully agreeing on the time of attacking the city e.g. consensus of the network - then that would be an agreement on the current state of the blockchain.
Nice copy and Paste LOL
@@ascendrio The city isn't the block. Consensus pieces of the offensive strategy are the blocks in a block chain. Just as the attribution of hash solving to a particular wallet (proof of work) is a block in a cryptocurrency block chain. Basically, with cryptocurrency such as Bitcoin, the solution to the Byzantine Generals problem is the block chain itself, a distributed ledger of who (which wallet; I.e., account) successfully solved a piece of the hashing algorithm and has been automatically compensated with commensurate units of Bitcoin, as well as keeping a ledger of all subsequent Bitcoin transactions between wallets.
I'd start off by saying they should've had a plan or several before even arriving.
If this is not the first bout, why can't they just congregate for a split second after tactically retreating? I think horses were a thing then already.
If they didn't think to call that before battle, what are they doing leading hundreds or thousands of people? They can't even manage getting several on the same track.
And maybe, just maybe, if you're afraid of treachery from people in the know your plan isn't that good.
Look inside of yourself Byzantine Emperor, you know this to be true.
Jordan Peterson is the perfect interviewer. Asks the questions i didnt even know i wanted answering in a clear and precise manner, as always.
I've never seen anyone "get it" as fast as Dr. Peterson did regarding energy abstraction. Political turmoil aside, these are exciting times.
Political turmoil is the rule. We just don't understand all the chaos of the past, based on the oversimplified way we learn and remember it.
@@PînnedByWatersAboveCrypto-m6x yea..i was wondering the same...but me thinks that he is a "shark" and is commenting on the contoversies of the world..in order to remain in the public eye...(sorry jordan ...but i calls it like i sees it)
Please get Dr. Ammous back on for more discussion on this, i was hooked listening to not only his experienced and interesting insight into crypto, but Dr. Peterson your ability to grasp quickly the concepts and appreciate the broad array of innovations bitcoin the infrastructure can bring. Awesome!
He's really, really good at explaining things in an understandable way. I wish I could do that.
Look up Micheal Saylor he is the evangelist multi billionaire for bitcoin.
Love to see JP being mind-blown by what bitcoin is doing.
Bitcoin is a scam. Huge scam.
@@tmo2798fiat currency is a scam, a huge scam.
Life is a scam. Huge scam.
@@mcdust144 Yes. And you use THAT to buy an even worse scam. They're doing you worse off of on another bad ripoff, you get ripped off twice, not just once [if you bought into Bitcoin, like lots of SUCKER MFERS DID]. Bitcoin is redundant and accomplishes nothing. You get taxed with 'fees'. They don't even have the dollars accounted for. They're not there. Dollars aren't in the accounts if people cash out. Sorry.
@@tmo2798 You are clueless.
Decentralized currency will replace the artificially inflated fiat system that will eventually crash to zero.
Two brilliant minds with overlapping viewpoints but expertise in very different fields. What makes this conversation especially engaging is how intellectually honest they both are. They think critically and deeply, and they analyze these related concepts and questions in ways that others do not. I loved the last conversation JP had about Bitcoin, and this one is even better. Thank you.
Absolutely amazing discussion. Have been HODLing and learning about bitcoin for 1.5 years, and this video still managed to get me to look at this topic from new angles. Jordan, it's amazing how fast you grasp these complex topics - we can actually see you light-up as you do. Priceless.
That’s the beauty of bitcoin… I’m 5 years in and still learning new things daily about it.
@The Southern Cross majority advantage of what?
Only thing that they have majority advantage of is price discovery. The same is said for every other asset class that has emerged in history.
Building wealth involves developing good habits like regularly putting money away in intervals for solid investments. Financial management is a crucial topic that most tend to shy away from, and ends up haunting them in the near future… I pray that anyone who is reading this will be successful in his or her life!!!
I’m celebrating a $30k stock portfolio today. I started this journey with 6k. I have invested on time and also with the right terms now I have time for my family and the life ahead of me
Wow, really. I was able to make my $25k on investment
@@clydeorlan2615I’m looking for something I can venture into on a short term basis, I have $15k sitting in my savings
Assets that can make you rich
*FX
*Btcoin
*Stocks
*Gold
*Real estate
You’re right but a lot of people remain poor due to ignorance
How fast Dr. Peterson picked up on the magnitude of the stranded energy problem was really fun to watch. Truly a bright mind to understand it so quickly just from a small comment by Saifedean.
Agreed. I've always thought that JBP's greatest ability is actually that of being able to listen to exactly what the other person is saying in a conversation.
This isn’t his first exposure to bitcoin. He knows more, but this is as much for the audience as himself.
I'm really happy you are hosting Austrian economists and the libertarian types. I would really suggest talking to Jeff Deist, president of the Mises Institute. He has such a great thought-process around these big ideas and he's a great speaker.
Have you seen the one he did with Malice? Obviously Malice isn't a Libertarian, but it's interesting nonetheless
@@sergiootero5904 if you have any logical sense of economics you literally HAVE to be a libertarian, if you have any logical sense of morality you also literally have to be a libertarian. Most people who aren’t simply haven’t studied enough
I will check him out thank you!
But is Bitcoin or crypto currency’s stable ?In prices they are quite volatile
@@tanjoy0205 That's because you're only looking short term. Just like he said, your time preference is messed up due to the fiat conditioning. You have to look 3-5, 10, 15 years. You are only looking at it day to day because you are hoping to spend the money tomorrow or next month. You have to reprogram your mind to think long term, look long term, the elites think like that, we have to start doing that as well. Peace
This was one of the best if not THE best conversations I’ve ever listened to. Testimony is …I’ve shared this with more people than any other podcast. Everyone reading this needs to do the same. The number of revelations to me and JBP were astounding. Pure gold…pun intended.
same, so engaging, soo much info.
Very true, let's go and share it with friends, family and even enemies :)
I tried doing this. But, it backfired... In a way that people already made up their minds on bitcoin....and nothing I could say or send would change their point of view.
A brilliant discussion. JBP’s ability to guide the dialogue, ask pertinent questions and interject his own ideas makes it way above the level of typical online discussions. I have recommended this discussion to several people who have all found it very informative.
This is one of the most profound podcasts I’ve ever listened to. My mind is a storm of thoughts, ideas and revelations.
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Right?!
So many light bulb moments. This podcast had me smiling so much and such terrific interaction.
@@jeffzuess9149 bitcoin it is ✨
Bitcoin- fix the money, fix the world
I would prefer listening to a conversation with these two over eating in a five-star restaurant any day! I loved every minute of it, especially watching JP's expressions of amazement when they talked about monetizing cheap energy. I've read The Bitcoin Standard, which was a mind altering book. Waiting excitedly on my copy of The Fiat Standard!
*bated breath
Such a rare pleasure in this age of simplistic, rushed, ill-informed, pseudo debate. A conversation based on respect and the exchange of ideas and pursuit of knowledge. All with the space and time to truly blossom. Sadly a rarity in this world.
If you enjoyed that book you should check out Thank God for Bitcoin by Robert breedlove and Co. J.P had him on the podcast too
i went on here to learn more on bitcoin and am now learning more on the naievety of the oversimplification of climate change activism....
Dr. Peterson did a fantastic job in this interview. Many of his questions were almost childlike, in the best sense of the word. He asked basic questions and came to the interview almost as if he were a blank slate on the subject. A very thoughtful discussion came out of this approach.
Dr. J Peterson, You have exposed 8 million people to the most important conversation in the human realm. I have appreciated your principled position and stand for humanity greatly. Thank you! ☮
I love how that finnally Saifadean was able to explain what other "experts" wasn't able to do, austrian economics and its features on bitcoin. I love it!
It’s literally because the other guys don’t actually understand the things they claimed to. I’m still on the outside of Bitcoin as a concept because of the primary reason of how value is determined, and I’m unconvinced that any tech is simply impervious. Coming from the world of tech a basic concept is nothing is without fault or vulnerability. It’s just a matter of time and effort.
@@racegod69 you should look more into it. It interesting stuff. It's security relies more on economic incentives and the rest is cryptographic verification.
@@mikemcguire5618 uhh mate. Read my comment on the main page. I go deeper.
This is the first person to make sense when speaking of crypto for me. All the other sound like loonies.
This guy changed my mind on bitcoin in about five minutes where dozens of hours of dudebros trying to failed.
The conversation that took place between the two of these amazing free thinkers was as close to "The Theory of Everything" as I have ever witnessed. I am grateful for both your contribution to humanity. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
Beyond Order. I’d say this is a fitting title for where Jordan’s going as an important figure. He’s built his orderly public persona to the masses so we know he understands the importance of traditional hierarchies now he’s doing deep learning about how these hierarchies have become corrupt so he can do his best to fix them.
And, to build on your statement; We can all take note and pay attention so that when the time comes to make decisions about how to move forward towards a better tomorrow, we can be better equipped to have the conversations that we need to have in order to do so.
To watch Jordan get Orange Pilled and recognize how Bitcoin can monetize stranded energy was a beautiful thing. Truly a joy to watch this interview
What is stranded enegy?
*energy
@MassAdoption 2022 Love this idea but how does it benefit, beyond the financial reward, unless the energy can be recouped or converted back from the produced bitcoin where it is ultimately needed?
Great question, I'd wondered about this too. My thoughts: money is the highest form of energy, able to convert human time / labor / skill into any other form of energy (mechanical, transportation, or the literal energy in your wall socket). So, if monetary energy is captured from stranded sources, and used to secure the bitcoin network, which secures people's wealth (who live in more populated areas), those people can convert that secured monetary energy into any other form, knowing that the miners have their property secured. Secure private property allows humanity to flourish without the concern that their time/energy will be stolen or inflated away. So the stranded energy is used for a net good when it secures people's monetary energy in the bitcoin network.
Stranded energy.
Energy is mainly generated to bring to market. However, when energy is too expensive to transport and sell in the open market it is considered stranded. There are plenty of known cases of active dams in highly remote locations where hydroelectric energy can be extracted but was never developed because building out that infrastructure to transport the energy to the closest large population was not cost effective (more expensive to build than the revenue of the sale of said energy). Bitcoin fixes that by monetizing that energy locally, by way of Bitcoin mining, without the expense of building transporting infrastructure.
Welcome Jordan to the future, thank you for all you do. We are so blessed to have you. Stay free, stay healthy.
Damn Jordan is a quick study. Loved seeing his curiosity, mixed with healthy skepticism and seeing the lightbulb go off over and over.
A brilliant, fascinating and important discussion for our time. It left me breathless with all I learned. Thank you, Dr Peterson and Dr Ammous for waking up my 73 year old brain cells. Whenever I listen to JP I feel smarter. xo
*INVESTING IN CRYPTO NOW IS VERY COOL EXPECIALLY WITH THE CURRENT RISE IN THE MARKET,*
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Huge thank you to both Dr. Peterson and Dr. Ammous, it is an absolute gift to view this level of intellectual discussion for free
Once again I'm here to ask for Dr. Thomas Sowell on the podcast.
And Victor Davis Hanson, too. :)
This would blow my mind. So would a podcast with Peter Schiff.
@@dogperson432 I hope Dr. Sowell is in good health. He is a national treasure.
Jordan replied to this question and said that Thomas wasn't available, unfortunately
I had studied Austrian Economics about 13 years ago. Listened to countless lectures, read a dozen or more books and pretty much knew what that school was going to say before they said it. Burnt out to the point where I didn't really pay attention to the for about five years.
Who else but Peterson to bring them back into my life?
I was in the middle of this debate in college back in 2010 with all my friends who studied Austrian Economics. Unfortunately, I listened to the naysayers at the time like Peter Schiff, who accurately predicted the national real estate crash, and Gary North. I ignored the likes of Max Keiser, who I respected and admired. I have regretted that decision for a long time.
@@DeRothschild oef.. ignoring Max haha good luck with that.. Personally I don't get why some talk bad about him. He is a raw, thoughtful and unfiltered source of knowledge and I think he has his heart in a good place, yup he can comment you, me or others, and that can feel shocking to some that instantly go into war mode.. instead of listening to what he says and maybe rethink your point, explain better or grow a extra pair. Because people who just give it to you straight are scarce in this world full of greed and lies.
And to people that say he's weird, I say, everybody that looks normal is acting
@@wichard9097 This was back in the early days of Bitcoin. There was a lot of uncertainty about it back then, and initially, Max was very critical of Bitcoin, if I recall correctly. I guess hindsight is 20/20. However, I'm fortunate I was aware of it early, and have been able to analyze it for a decade, and have been able to profit handsomely by investing in it.
His books and podcasts should be mandatory reading and listening to ALL economics students!! The information he provided has been eye opening to say the least.
Funny, I'm currently reading his book "The Bitcoin Standard". Can't wait to listen to this! Thanks for the awesome content Dr. Peterson!
It's not like Satoshi Nakamoto means Central intelligence in Japanese or anything wake up people. You're getting played again...
@@shabbywabbythewatermelon6269 meaning the blockchain as a central ledger of transactions not so much a conspiracy
It's a great read👍🏻
Honest question, we know the dollar is backed by "nothing" but the nukes. The more nukes, the more "power" you have, hence why China makes more nukes and air carriers. What's your argument to that?
Prepared to be orange pilled
Time flies by when you’re captivated and inspired by a conversation. Brilliant minds in a open free genuine discussion that knocks you back to rethink why we are here. Thank you, Jordan & Saifedean, so grateful of your time!
This is the new type of media. Opposing the 15 second tik toks, these long, 3 hour long videos are the new form of education
I hope nobody was so dumb as to buy bitcoin as a result of this conversation.
@@USGrant21st Why is that dumb?
@@USGrant21st they don't talk about bitcoin market price at the time of conversation and they don't give you buy signals.
But if someone was stupid enough to buy btc at the market without knowledge and experience needed to understand when to buy, well, I hope that will teach him/her.
@@Andromedon777 well said. Long-form videos like this replenish us!
I’m like a little kid on Xmas morning! These two men have indirectly helped me build a life I couldn’t have previously imagined. Incredibly grateful to hear a conversation between two revolutionary leaders/thinkers. 🙏🏻
Thank you Jordan and Saifedean - until listening to this I was unable to gain the right perspective about Bitcoin, and now I do. I'm well and truly down the rabbit hole at 60!
Much love for Bitcoin and Jordan Peterson. Many thanks for covering this topic! 🤩
Wow... this really pulls apart the wise from the smart, I have known of the topics mentioned for a long time but never reached the depth or complexity that you both showed in this conversation. Now knowing what is it that's really happening with cryptocurrencies, currencies, governments and fiat related stuff, it really blows my mind that this insanity and genius is happening right in front of our eyes, unfolding as it is happening. I am really glad and thankful for this video and the discussion that happened here! Thank you very much for enlightening us, Dr. Peterson and Dr. Ammous!
This podcast reminded me of a story my grandma once told me about her childhood. I had seen that she had a dollar bill on her bulletin board, and I had asked her why it was there. She explained to me that at a certain point when her parents had very little money, my great grandpa pinned up a single dollar bill on their wall and said that as long as they kept that bill right where it was, they would never run out of money.
Unbelievable, absolutely unbelievable! ❤️
I have practically no education. I am old, disabled by a very rare disease.
I have also lived and worked abroad.
Met people from different walks of life
I see hope for the future and am always on the optimistic side.
It wasn't always like that in my turbulent life!
recently I hear
when it seems that hope is almost lost, I will still hope!
Never give up, the best is yet to come!
I love how Jordan Peterson doesn´t know certain things, but he instantly predicts and understands the answers and their principles. This man is just excellent at thinking.
Vox Day accurately describes exactly what Jordan Peterson is. Unfortunately, people that are not that smart are easily taken by smooth talkers, like Barack Obama, who use their articulate and intelligent demeanors to hide the fact that they are nothing but empty, since pushing for other men’s agendas behind the scenes. Jordan Peterson has written all sorts of things for the UN, and if you read them, you will see what his true evil nature is.
Holy moly, I have learned in this video more than I have learned in any cours I have taken in my life.
Jordan B is doing an excellent job. His guest is such a great intellect. Decentralisation of accreditation in education is one of the most important ideas they talked about. Very interesting
It took me about 2-3 years studying bitcoin & Austrian economics to reach the level of understanding JBP reaches in a couple hours here with Saif, a pleasure to watch!
you really think Jp knew nothing about bitcoin before this interview?😂 He has probably read like 20books. By his standards that's low.
This dialogue is an absolute must-see, especially for people new to the crypto market. Prof. Peterson brilliantly shows open-minded curiosity about a topic he has little experience in.
Excellent watch!
Already know this is going to be a fantastic episode I'm so excited. I've been waiting for Dr Peterson to do some more episodes concerning Bitcoin since his first.
I hope next time he brings on someone who will tell the truth like digital asset investor or anyone else not part of the Bitcoin marketing machine
@@shabbywabbythewatermelon6269 is digital assets investor have a website?Thanks for posting your comment I'm grateful.... I haven't jumped on the Bitcoin train, I really need to understand and learn more about it.
@@foxontherun4844 totally always gotta do your own research, he's got a UA-cam channel it's digital asset investor. I will say this XRP is still under a bull sh*t lawsuit. When it's over with the SEC they will be going public and on demand liquidity for banks, corporations, govts go live. (Patented) also has patents with bank of America, Goldman, and I believe Wells Fargo. Listen to Tim draper talk to Gary gensler years back if you can find the clip. It's what's happening now suing competition, planting press stories and getting all the corrupt buddies to all gang up on it. Funny thing though is deepstate is trying to protect Bitcoin and Ethereum from decentralized global better tech that comes from San Francisco. CTO of XRP also wrote Bitcoin patent in 1988 but idea came from Marxist/ socialist Henry Ford
@@shabbywabbythewatermelon6269 Ohhh, so you're part of the XRP marketing machine then? And a conspiracy nut if you think "the idea [for Bitcoin] came from Marxist / socialist Henry Ford". The channel you recommend is simply shilling for XRP.
@@shabbywabbythewatermelon6269 Thank you for replying Shabby 👍🏻
I just watched Dr. Peterson get orange pilled in real-time. Fantastic discussion.
He did a Bitcoin episode before and that one was also awesome, recommend checking it out!
What a privilege to listen to these two minds
I cried listening to this. Call me a softie. But it literally made me cry tears of happiness. Hearing Jordan getting it in real time is so surreal.
Not sure you'd be crying tears of joy if the economy collapsed because we put this man's ruinous economic ideas into practice.
What would happen? Firstly, the US government would need to cut spending by a trillion dollars (the deficit) . This would lead to an immediate recession as well as means severe cuts to essential services like police, fire, child services, etc... The US already had D rated infrastructure.
On top of this, most money creation actually comes from commercial banks and NOT the government. Its an outright lie based in ideology to claim it is. Someone with his qualifications must know that? If commercial banks cannot create money, then how on earth will people buy homes? Banks don't have enough reserves to cover demand. This also means no business and start up loans. This would lead to collapsed construction industry as people cannot afford homes without mortgages.
People really have to think these things through a bit more.
Money creation is an essential part of the economy. It quite literally pays to keep civilisation going and people like this guy are trying to undermine that system, and in turn, society. Rich countries are rich because they have central banks. Poor countries are often poor as they lack this ability. The monetary system is a miracle and important civilisational advance.
@@mdaniels6311 It quite literally does not pay to advance the way we are, because we are only thinking short term.
Let the US fall, let all governments fall and be rebuilt.
You think suffering won't get worse in either case? The system you are praising, is indirectly responsible for this. Change is never fun or pretty, but it's necessary.
@@mdaniels6311the economy as we know it is over leveraged and just because we will have to suffer the consequences of leaving the US’ terrible monetary policy doesn’t mean we should continue to suffer the consequences of staying within it. sometimes change means things get worse in the short term
@@mdaniels6311can you explain to me how my money can keep up with inflation any other way.?
How about Argentina where their fiat value changes by the hour. The United States has triple digit deficits that drives mass inflation. Apparently it’s the riches country by counterfeit. Bitcoin can not be counterfeit.
The majority are all getting poorer and poorer by the day internationally. With the exception of The 1% not so much.
Since the conception of bitcoin the value has increased by 1000% can you point me in the right direction to another savings avenue that performs on that level that has zero volatility? Bitcoin can be volatile for sure. But 1000% now?
The CBDC is coming and people will want control of what they THINK! Is theirs? I say think because you can not move 1 million dollars across boarders and not have it taken away because governments control your money. I can not e-transfer you $50,000 if I wanted to my money is controlled.
It’s not really yours at all then is it? If you have absolutely no say in your money. I’ve experienced a frozen account with $100;000 from a house sale. I was treated like a criminal till the 10 days of clearance by bank and government aka regulation could verify I’m not a cartel or terrorist. I was frozen solid. Couldn’t even buy a coffee for 10 days.
It is sovereignty at its finest and once you understand that concept the world will be in a better place.
every $1 you invest today is a little bit of time that you buy back in the future, the more you invest, the more free time you can afford in the future, having time and the freedom to choose what to do are the ultimate investing goals.
Exactly, that expression "buy back your time" well thats what investing allows you to do.
freedom for the future is why i am investing.
i've had people say to me they didint know you can start investing with small amount of money. they 100% can and a $1 start is better than nothing at all.
@@chris-pj7rk Nothing is too small to start with, i don’t just buy/trade anything for the sake of it, I seek the guidance of 'Katherine Rae Lobe' who has made me understand that strategy is everything, her strategy has brought 15x returns so far this year. I copy her trades in real time which i can confidently say i am impressed.
@@fredgallag6097 I have made some funny buys and investment, i need to salvage my portfolio by all means, please how can i contact this person?
Dr. Peterson learning crypto quite fast! It took me years! Glad to see him going down the rabbit hole, as a Libertarian it really puts together the concepts of philosophy of money and economics, with the current political environment and the major issues that affect our way of life today.
What I'd like to also say, is that other cryptocurrencies - seeing them as companies is a good interpretation, they are not competing against bitcoin but they are not useless; they are competing decentralized platforms to the current central platforms we have today using core tenants of crytography, namely decentralization and giving power back to the people. The genius of this is using the "shares" of the company as also the "currency" of the company, so the customers ARE the shareholders.
What a an absolutely wonderful time listening to two of the brightest and most common sense, practical people I follow. Please carry on these conversations. Brilliant!
I really appreciate Peterson being brave enough to engage with ideas that he doesn’t immediately understand and may not come naturally to him. Pretty rare today.
I swear I could listen to discussions like this for ever.. I don’t want this to end, like.. at all.
I was just commenting to a friend that I miss these kind of discussions from traditional tv journalists of yesteryear.
@@rv4tyler Yeah, but obviously TV is dead. The future is web3, blockchain and independent content creators, hence the growth of youtube in the past decade. :)
Joe Rogan has more views on his podcast than most TV shows do, which is ofcourse incredible! :D
If you’re intrested in stuff like this, theres a great book by a swedish philosopher Alexander Bard, it’s called Digital Libido, it’s quite the read.
This episode was just amazing. And i loved how touched Peterson was when realizing that you can move energy with btc with close to zero cost.
@Richard C technically it does move energy across time and space given the fact that the energy exerted at mining is stored in another form of energy(monetary energy BTC). Energy is neither created or lost but transformed from one form to another.
@@racitup4114 Bitcoin is for everybody including flat earthers buddy.
@@racitup4114 Money is literally stored energy. Its literally a physical/digital manifestation of work sir. It's not a made up thing, it's just what it is. I get you don't like it but it's an apt/alternate description of what money is.
@@racitup4114 Work is energy, i think you're a victim of fiat education thinking it isn't. The computer science breakthrough called Proof of work is literally exerting computational power in form of heat energy to deter DDoS attacks. They called exerting energy proof of work. This is where trying to sound smart makes you sound dumb sir. Do better.
@@racitup4114 I see what you're saying now. I wasn't speaking in terms of bitcoin literally storing the energy expended in proof of work. I mean't it represents the energy expended, so maybe i shouldn't have used literal but in a philosophical sense. You're right and i was wrong, my apologies. You're correct that energy in action is work and work is our ability to exert force. But i thought raw energy itself is intangible?
Dr. Peterson talking about Bitcoin? My day just turned around. Haha 🤩
Dr. Peterson is a great moderator, his questions permit a wider and deeper exchange - thanks to each of you I'm better informed, regardless of the Bitcoin bias.
Why do you say the interview has a Bitcoin bias?
"The game theory analogy behind the Byzantine Generals Problem is that several generals are besieging Byzantium. They have surrounded the city, but they must collectively decide when to attack. If all generals attack at the same time, they will win, but if they attack at different times, they will lose. The generals have no secure communication channels with one another because any messages they send or receive may have been intercepted or deceptively sent by Byzantium’s defenders. How can the generals organize to attack at the same time?" -- Source: River Financial website
awesome
Blows my mind how I found you back in 2016, went to your shows watched you psychology videos as I got my undergraduate degree, then when the world recoiled to covid and you fell ill, I became infatuated wit crypto. To see it come full circle is amazing as you know see the wonders and potential of economic freedom apart from government rule.
I LOVE YOU JBP!
Bitcoin not crypto 😎
@@MUFCJibber One must take the orange pill to see opportunity in any other crypto. Its a process.
It is so refreshing to watch someone who is genuinely intellectually curious grapple with the multidisciplinary concepts that Bitcoin encompasses and come out the other side understanding its potential for the future. Wonderful interview. Congratulations to you both.
Why am I only finding this a year after it was posted. Awesome discussion and observations on the corrupting power of Fiat money. Thank goodness for Bitcoin.
Google eased up on the censorship and are still shitting their pants after Elon blew the lid off their whole agenda.
Please keep talking to Austrians like this and Murphy. The conversations you have are so amazing.
This conversation is the definition of giving true value. I fall into the bitcoin rabbit hole several month ago. Watching somebody live as he is getting an idea of bitcoin on such a high level was a hell of a pleasure.
Cheers from Germany
Did you invested?
This was the most refreshing conversation I can recall. Immensely impressed and proud of the intellectual avenues you went down Dr. Peterson. Thank you for your intellectual honesty in a world with it few and far between. I look forward to your other works as I have just stumbled upon you.
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It really good to hear this informative discussion especially bit coin is new to me.
I love this conversation. Dr Petersson is actually one of the best hosts I have ever seen. Clever questions, give the guest space to answer and gives feedback and truly listens to the guest. Dr Petersson is as great as a host as he is as a guest.
Imagine the day when Jordan understands that bitcoin not only transfers energy across the world at the speed of light without any wires, but also across time, into the distant future, with 0% leakage, making it the most efficient battery in human history.
Technically speaking, how is BTC a battery? Cause that makes no sense.
It's only as efficient as what anyone at a given time is willing to pay or trade for it. It has no inherent charge or energy. And it doesn't have zero leakage in any way if you're going to stick with that analogy. If you buy it now for 60 grand and send it to your pal a month from now and in three months he goes to "use the miraculous stored energy" of this perfect battery, but it's only selling for 30 grand now, he has experienced a 50 percent "energy loss".
How do you discharge this... Battery?
🤥
I agree with this guy, Bitcoin can be whatever the hell everyone agrees it is.
If we all agree it's a battery, then it's a battery.
Get Jeff Booth on next! He’s a Canadian entrepreneur who has very good insight into technology, climate change, bitcoin, and most importantly how all those things are interacting with one another. Would make a great discussion!
Hell yeah, fully agree, Jeff is my favorite person in Bitcoin
YES!
No
@@Gabekelley Me too. His book, the price of tomorrow, is amazing and should be read by everyone
Watching Saifedean Ammous orange pilling Jordan Peterson is priceless...
Your crypto talks have easily ascended into the top topics I love seeing from you. This episode was awesome!
Just finished the book. What an amazing read. If you ever found yourself, like me my entire life, scratching your head at the explanations of so-called economists about why money works the way it does, The Bitcoin Standard will reshape your view of currency in the world and show you why it never made sense to you.
Well said
JP looking as fit as he’s been in a long time - great to see
Such a mind-warping subject, it’s hard to wrap your head around Bitcoin, even after years of learning about it
Dr. Peterson, your ability to extract wisdom out of the minds of people is out of this world. This was one of the best interviews I have ever seen. Thank you.
31:27 We have to remember that a complex problem may have many differing issues where their independent solutions could contradict one another. Excellent point as always!
I have an immense appreciation for people like you who so generously share insight, thoughts, questions, and discourse openly. Thank you. It was very helpful as a springboard for seeking out more information.
Successful people don't become that way overnight. What most people see as a glance of wealth, a great career, and purpose is the result of hard work and hustle over time. I pray that anyone who is reading this will be successful in life❤❤
You are right, to be a successful person in life require him or her of hard work and time
You are right. Been thinking of going into gold and cyptocurrency
@hadwinholmes5604I totally agree with you it has been an eye-opening experience for a lot of people.
Investment is the key to achieving success with the current pandemic slowing down so many businesses aww
Talking about been successful. I know I am blessed if not I wouldn't have met someone is as spectacular as Stacy Griffin
Fabulous interview. I never realized what a profoundly skilled interviewer Jordon Peterson actually is. He is so committed to fully understanding the guest’s point of view, and to establishing clarity on that understanding that deep learning on behalf of the viewer is paramount end result. Thank you, J. P., you are a gift to the science of logical thinking.
OHMYGOD I love this episode so much! I prayed for this, YAY! 😍
Next, Michael Saylor please 😭
I'm new to Bitcoin trading and I find it difficult using these strategies well. Where can I find a legit broker? than will manage my account and also teach me how to trade.
Check up kelly sarah. She's really one of the best and legit traders available right now.
wow, amazing to see others who trade with Mrs kelly Sarah . i am currently on my 5th trade with her and my portfolio has increased tremendously
@@yuihuyen2890 How can I contact her please?
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There's enough depth and density of valuable content and knowledge to create an entire course out of this conversation. Not just on the subject but also the beautiful interaction between these two esteemed thought leaders and intellectuals on a journey to truly understand how our complex world works. Thanks for spreading the light.
I'm actually tired of working about stocks...it's driving me nuts these days, I think crypto investment is far better than stock..
Trading crypto has been a lucrative way of making money
Stocks are good but crypto is more profitable
I'm new to forex trade and I have making huge losses but recently I see a lot of people earning from it. can someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong
all you need is a professional trader else you will continue making losses
How can someone know a professional account manager that is trustworthy when legit once are hard to find this days
Watching one of my favourite people in the world get orange-pilled, is a true pleasure. JBP will be a powerful asset for Bitcoin/sound money, and the benefits it brings the world.
Matrix is real.
Absolutely!
One of the best episodes from Saif because Dr Peterson asked questions so well!! Thank you both
This was one of the most captivating interviews I’ve ever heard. Bravo to Dr. Peterson for asking the types of questions I, and surely many others, were stricken with along the way during the Saifedean’s thoroughly insightful lecture. A++ listen.
I still dont understand how fractional reserve banking is supposed to work. How can you invest 90% of a banks money and guarantee gains from it. Where does that money come from? Money is zero sum, so it has to come from somewhere....does it come from growth? Then what happens at a time like now when population isnt growing as fast? Seems like a huge problem without a solution.
Like so many of the posters here, I really, really enjoyed the conversation. I loved the fact that Jordan was humble and curious enough to ask questions that I think most of us wanted answers to. And the responses by Saifedean were so clear and illustrative! It was such a pleasure to have 2 engaging, articulate and intelligent individuals discuss this nebulous (to me) technology. And how it relates to so many things that are affecting modern society and government really answered some questions I've wondered about since I was young.
One of the most fascinating conversations I've heard lately. Truly thought provoking. Thank you.
Wow, Truly that was Amazing. Dying to read the Fiat standard, The Bitcoin standard was sensational, a truly must read for every crypto investor or anyone looking to understand the big picture of Bitcoin.
Well done guys, When round 2!?! 👏
Dear Dr Peterson, love your interviews and how you address your guests. It's always a pleasure to listen to your conversations as everytime I learn something new. Thank you very much!
Loved learning more about Bitcoin here. Super heavy into crypto but embarrassingly have pretty much avoided Bitcoin or learning about Bitcoin.
I will say there's much more to be said about DeFi, smart contracts, NFTs and other new technology being forged on other chains. This is an incredibly exciting space, can't wait to see where it goes.
No Sir. Bitcoin is the way to go :)
Learn this, Peterson should know better by now. I'd like an update.
'Bitcoin', is not a 'coin' nor is it a 'currency'. 'Intrinsically', it is worth less than air- and ACTUALLY pollutes it [Bitcoin 'mining' consumes lots of energy, and it's actually not 'mining' at all, it's a waste of energy]. The Bitcoin logo is a gold coin with two lines through it. But it's not digital gold at all. It's a waste of scarce energy.
To buy in, you pay with 'fiat' currency, lets say.. US Dollars. You will also pay a fee in US Dollars to have an amount of US Dollars 'converted' to Bitcoin. That money will be tied up until you 'sell' it or 'convert' it back. You will be charged a fee for this action as well.
The price of Bitcoin goes up as more people buy in to it with fiat given the supply remains the same. That is what gives it its value, people paying fiat for 'Bitcoin'. 'Fiat' is vital to the propagation of 'Bitcoin'. That's how it is appraised- its appraisal is in fiat itself, making it extremely redundant and wasteful. This happens despite many energy shortages exist around the world and many people struggle to stay warm.
@AvatarVids You must not have liked what I suggested. You must be a ditzy blonde.. 'lady', I would think. Bitcoin is obtained by buying it with fiat. It's fiat with an added redundancy. You must've bought in to that scam, you ladies' man!.. or girl? Are you trans? What do you mean? Read your comment out loud to yourself and figure out what you meant, then let me know in a more concise fashion. You are detached from reality. Real apples are valuable, virtual apples... not so much. Good luck. Take your meds, sweetie.
Didn't know it was possible to be super heavy in crypto but not know how bitcoing works 🤔
@AvatarVids You communicate as if you haven't made it through grammar school. You poor child, you traded value for pollution. Bitcoin is not something as practical as the current fiat. It's just that simple. It's not as practical as Visa or MasterCard either, you poor child. You hypocrite. You poor creature. You bought in and got bamboozled. What a foolish little thing you are.