When you said "if you live under a Rock and don't know what a Nibiru is" I expected something along the lines of "you will die under a rock and find out what a Nibiru is" as the follow up xD
I've come to appreciate when I play Raidraptors, the typical point of no return for Nibiru is Arsenal Falcon, which at least guarantees you'll get an Ultimate Falcon out. If they don't Nibiru immediately, you can force their hand with Ultimate Falcon's effect. Still not a great situation to be in but if you held your Bloom Vulture, you can link your Ultimate Falcon and the token off for Sky Striker Ace Azalea, clear your own board then use Bloom Vulture's effect and figure stuff out from there. The issue with trying to play through Nib is that it leaves you vulnerable to handtraps you could have possibly played around as well. Maybe you have a Nibiru-proof line in hand that doesn't allow you to to try and bait an Ash Blossom for instance.
Yea that’s how I feel a lot of decks aside from snake eyes handle nib. I played unchained a lot in the past and there were lines that played better under nib but lost to imperm and vice versa so you just had to know what the meta decks played and what was more likely to come up and play around that
That's why raidraptor is one of my most played decks now, I even gave up snake eye to play it, It's such a complex deck that rewards the player for making good hand trap calls and good deck building choices, there's been so many times where I've been rewarded by properly forcing out interactions by using my hand perfectly and that's something I love about this silly bird rouge deck
I just run readiness. I can eat a nib for 2 turns, leave the board empty both times, and still make a crazy comeback turn 3 with the protections of readiness.
It felt great to hear you mention traptrix. It was the first deck i got (because of the structure deck) and started playing locals with. I heard everyone complaining about how nibiru, droll and shifter absolutely destroyed their deck but I could always do something to negate (just nibiru) or play through them and still end on a decent board. Playing that deck I learned that with time thief redoer you can even change the amount of monsters on the field to make droplet resolve without effect sometimes and there is even more interactions i learned because of my time with that deck.
I’m big ursarctic fan, so I might as well talk about how it deals with nib. The only way to actually play through nib (not prevent it with a negate), is to have access to radiation and/or play a secondary engine that has decent plays on its own. The only time you’ll see an ursa player actually play through nib is if they drew into extenders and/or their secondary engine. The large influx of card advantage can give you the resources necessary to build your board again, although it really depends on what you drew. Issue is, even with a s/t searcher, actually getting to radiation early in the turn is not as common as it needs to be for ursa to consistently play through nib without relying on another engine, while a secondary engine essentially takes radiation’s place as an advantage generator. With baronne gone in the tcg, ursa has a tough time dealing with nib, unfortunately.
Ursarctic players have my respect. One day the prophecy will be fulfilled and Konami will drop som ursarctic support and make the deck tier zero. This will usher in 3000 years of peace
I play pendulum magicians and the way I play through nib is by putting a vortex dragon on the field before pendulum summoning. This sadly requires a very specific 2 card combo (or 3 more generic ones and kinda plays through hand traps). The cool part is that vortex will hit the board AFTER nib hits and then I get to pendulum summon one monster from ED and whatever I got in my hand, which usually ends at 60~70% of my average combo.
I love how Blackwing plays around Nib. In the Simoon combo, 5 summons puts us right before Nib would put 2 synchros in grave to summon Black-Winged Assault Dragon with. So what we do to play around that is we send Chinook, our newest handtrap, to the grave as part of Vata's summon of Black-Winged Dragon, and then revive it with the grave effect of Shamal. We can then use it on Nib itself to negate it, reduce its atk by 700, and more importantly, put Boreastorm in grave, which sets up BWAD.
@Saho-primus its slightly different, since sadly branded fusion got limited which was stupid. i ran a small despia package it with 3 aluber, 2 branded opening, and 1 branded banishment. use to run 3 branded fusion but now you need to compensate for that. ran 3 super Polly, with 1 interfusion, i think it was two of the predaplant pendulums aling with 1 sundew, and the scurpio, lonefire covra package. the extra deck was really cool though. if you run staysaylor romarin you can cheat a fusion into the grave for some fun plays. also ran hex seal light in the main to cheat out dragoon. theres a lot more too it but hopefully that helps.
I think purrely qualifies here. Skilled players play around every fucking handtrap known to man, the deck doesnt rely on omini negates or floodgates, and most lines are non-linear, forcing the player to deviate. Also Im not sure if Ritual beast qualifies here. Colossus, Protos, and shifter seem to hard carry the deck to playability imo.
So I was talking about the deck designs and their use as intended, of course we can throw garbage in like protos and shifter but that to me is unintended, I enjoy the way ritual beasts design allows it to sometimes play through nib inherently. That being said, protos should have never returned and nemeses flag/corridor should be banned
@TheDuelingBeard Yeah if you're talking about intended purpose then ritual beast qualifies, but what do you think about purrely? And another deck I thought of, Ghoti?
@@dominic7100 What kind of purrely player sits on noir and keeps it unaffected? If your opponent sits on a big fat noir, your opponent is just garbage at the game honestly. Goddess it away dude, it's not like the noir is gonna prevent you from doing anything if it's unaffected. Also floodgates are cards that prevent you from doing shit. Purrely lets you play the game, surprisingly enough.
Vanquish Sword Soul >You only need Longyuan and add the synchros > Protos if you feel like evil > Rock adds back Jialong > Dodges targeting effects with style > burn win con with Qixing and Snow Devil trap - the deck is brick city
Repeat yourself a little less in the beginning. Same opinion as the last guy. Spammed ff just to get to the content. I’m new I like you though. Well articulated thoughts and a nice voice. I’ll sub!
My favorite way to play around Nib (not through), is with Runick Fur Hire. If you already have Runicks in hand, you can use Rafale to add a Fur Hire if you hit one and deflect Nib when it’s activated. Or, in MD, if you open Spright Blue, you can go for Spright Starter early and hold it. Then if you get hit with Nib, you can use it later to summon a Spright and make Elf to bring back Donpa and combo from there using Rex.
My fav way of playing though nib is with plunder patrol, where you want your opponent to nib you, as this generates a light body on the opponents side of the field, then you can make blackbread with the token and go into lys and a + 1. The whole point of plunder combo is to get a light token on the opponents side of the field with jord and boom you've done it for me! Thanks!
😂 that’s a really good one, plunder as a deck sounds like the most healthy deck ever. Specializes in going second, doesn’t make degen, super cheap. It’s everything that Konami refuses to print in one deck 😂
@@TheDuelingBeard No joke Plunder is actually a fully functional deck that can be competitive. It's intial endboard doesn't look like much but thr amount of knowledge and technical play involved means not every game piloting Plunder will be the same.
I always Enjoyed how Cyber Orcust played throuh Nib with Nova floating Effect over the Infinity Negation also rewarded you from not throwin away a herz early in the combo
Starry Knights. I thinks Starry knights and the lightskin dragon are cool. Litterally made the deck just cuz the dragon looked cool when I first started playing master duel and seeing cards that werent in Duel Links at the time. Also splashed Labrynth cuz I was getting dragged by them a lot. I was a lil reluctant at first to play a deck I just got beat with but it works better than I feel like it should with the main theme being light and darkness and a pretty cool trap that works with both fairies and fiends
Melodious is so good. quite easy to play but at the same time have many technical aspects. can play many handtraps. and like you said, plays around Nib beautifully. the opponent facial expression after chaining Etoile to the Nib is priceless. and second (even better) expression is the moment of realization what happens at Nib resolution when the field is empty 😂
@@TheDuelingBeard yeah. there's another cool interaction which can be used when drawing 2 Ostinato. especially useful after Nib but can be used always. just activate first Ostinato, do any combo you wish ending with at least Etoile. use the effect of Etoile to clear the field and then use the second Ostinato to summon Bacha or Schuberta (additional points if its turn 2 and you can banish something from opp GY with Schuberta). in the End Phase, by the effect of Ostinato, the summoned fusion will be destroyed and you can summon fusion materials from GY (possibly Aria + Elegy if combo was stopped by Nib on Bloom Harmonist). either way you are getting 2 more bodies for free just because you had 2 Ostinato in hand. it's such a good feeling to resolve that irl. did you know about that interaction?
When i still played PK FIRE, at that time I didn’t have apollousa or ophion, so I just stopped at rusty bard dark Requiem and 2 fog blades. Idk if that qualifies as a good end board but I did stall the turn so I can otk with arc rebellion
I have played illusion chimera since it came out, it can play under nibiru and over the nibiru, even if it resolves and destroy everything, you can use the nibiru token next turn as fusion fodder and the quimeras can return a banished monster and a graveyard monster
Synchron has a pretty cool to play through Nib with Assault Synchron cause it's grave effect summons back a Synchro by banished itself if a Synchro is Tributed or Banished, which, since they no longer have Baronne, has actually become so much more important for the deck as a whole since the normal line gets 5 summons at minimum to just get Tuners on board. S:P, despite it being generic, at least allows some control/mid-range decks to play around Nib in a unique way since it has to banish BOTH targets and usually, if you made it going first, you have to banish a key combo piece or even boss monster with it just to keep going. My favorite however is Ghoti with Snopios. With each of the Level 2s (besides Zep) summoning themselves in Standby the turn after they're banished, Snopios banishing them from Hand or Grave as Cost, and if you summoned Snopios before 5 summons, you usually target Snopios itself to banish itself when it leaves the field, then it'll banish another fish from grave to come back as an interruption during the opponent's next turn. Ghoti's a very fun deck that has some really cool and unique interactions and its main game plan being to set up to play during the opponent's turn without using/needing generic negates makes it so fun to play.
Thats cool to hear since I assumed syncron just dies to it & ghoti is one of the decks I haven’t tested enough but it looks so cool. Really need a list to test.
Water piles can search Deep Sea Minstrel at the start of the combo, which you can then use to banish Nibiru from Opp's hand until End Phase. That same combo can further rip 2 or 3 more cards from Opp's hand. It's pretty good.
While I despise hand rips, I’m pretty sure minstrel gives them back which I can somewhat swallow. I like water though, really cool design and I’m looking forward to the support in the next set
I know a guy at locals that mains salads since they came out, and he plays around hand traps quite well. I think there's a supposed choke point when salad players summon the first raging phoenix. However, I've never actually hit them with nib there
@@TheDuelingBeard make cyberse wicckid as your 4th summon triggering gazelle in hand as the 5th summon. In master duel you look for the delay before gazelle resolves. If there is delay you send an extender to grave, if not you send roar. And if there was delay you keep the weasel you got off wicckid in hand to recover from nib.
Melodious is my favorite deck since it's release in late 2014, it was the archetype that finally made me play the game after all those years of just watching the anime. The deck was really bad, but I enjoyed it a lot at the time, until well... Breakers of shadows (when they ruined yugioh for me). When my friend told me they released new melodious support and the deck was good again, I gave it a chance, because it coincided with a good banlist (banning generic boss monster negates), and I fell in love with the deck and the game again. Etoile is now my favorite card and I will keep playing this deck, thanks Melodious for this beautiful experience.
Glad to hear that, my experience with it was that I made it back in the day for my sister to play but it just wasn’t good enough, I though it was one of those anime decks that just wasn’t going to be great but the recent support has been amazing, it’s what every other deck can hope and dream for. Like I said, whoever made this support should be given a medal lol
these decks do that but a top player doesn't see branded and ritual beast they see floodgates. ash blossom, veiler, imperm all destroy decks under tier who cares about nibiru your never getting to 5 summons.
I like to play 2 grang on my branded ,because i like branded in high apirit alot When you do ur usual branded combo with aluber cartesia(sommuned with deployment) and a discard you end up with jade and grang and an albion set end phase(no albaz in grave), cartesia in hand Now imagine you get nibed here Grang summon quem ,quem send albaz End phase :cartesia back to hand ,albion search high spirit activate send grang to grave and cartesia then search albaz Quem revives mirror jade Ur oppent turn u have quem revival ,mirror jade with rindbrum line fuse cuz u dumbed albaz with first quem ,grang banish for second quem or for quartis ,and with mirror jade sending any card you revive cartesia with quem and since you got albaz in hand you go to another fusion line of your choice The post nib field is acutally better than before nib in opinion
In my testing i have to say that memento (even without fiendsmith) play through nibiru very easily by making s:p at the end of their combo, i even look up all possibilitys of nib before the summon of sp and none of them do that much
15:33 (Assuming you did the standard BraFu combo that starts with albaz+Lubellion make Albion) Something cool you can do is you go quem with the Dusk Dragon, mill an albaz with quem, use the mirrorjade banish to mill Rindbrum, actually, then, on your opponent’s turn, you can banish rindbrum to summon back the albaz, discard, super poly with nib to make another Albion, and combo off from there! The spell/trap you get from Albion gy effect will also help!
everybody will hate me for saying it but mathmech has an in-archetype negate in less than 5 summons, its not super skilled but if u dont have extenders you would have to relinquish the negate to link climb into whatever mathmech is climbing nowadays
I don’t mind in archetype negates, I hate generic boss monsters. So this counts. In our discord format we put circular back to 1 so the combos are doable still
I want to play Melodious so bad but I'm not paying 60€+ for a playset of 1st Movement Solo 😭😭😭 Please reprint it as a common in the tins 😭😭😭 I love playing pure Unchained but people who play against Yubel and Fiendsmith Engine decks keep bitching about Yama or Sharvara or both and want them banned because "Nobody plays pure Unchained, it's only good for a engine" 😭
Agreed, it pissed me off seeing how expensive the solos were. Should be in the next ots if Konami gets their head out of their butts. & that’s why I hate the fiend pile, gets unchained cards unnecessary hate
I’m going against the grain, I like how pure snake-eyes plays through nibiru. Using fieldspell to spell trap flameburg is crazy. I wish it was still just ending on amblowhale with princess in grave.
My favorite deck design is magical musketeer. The way you build your deck it'll determine which turn you'll play and it has a lot of variety. The runick variant is so satisfying to draw 5 while being able to handtrap with both halves of the deck. The fiendsmith version can produce some fun boards and there's diversity since there's a lot of options. My favorite right now is blind second utilizing triple tactics to search any cards to steal, board wipes, and link into the vrains. I had someone had their mind crush realizing I had an uninterruptible 4 card searcher or the ability to complete swarm the field while breaking the board. Its too much fun.
1 Melodious lock is a mediocre lock, doesn’t stop you from playing. 2 Branded lock is super unhealthy but I don’t play it and it’ll be banned soon 3 Shifter will be banned soon 4 this was a reach, every deck has to do something and floating is super healthy. These decks are still inherently awesomely designed, Konami just refuses to address 2 issues stopping these decks from being ideal design
As much as I despise each and every one of these decks, *e s p e c i a l l y* Traptrix, he does have a point. Most decks do not reward the player for playing cards. Half of them have gimmicks which are either hard to manage, or too many to count on one hand, making it hard to enjoy playing the deck. It is quite nice to play a card, from an archetype, that does not punish you for playing it, rather it builds on top of the gimmick it has made its own. A +1 you could say.
When you said "if you live under a Rock and don't know what a Nibiru is" I expected something along the lines of "you will die under a rock and find out what a Nibiru is" as the follow up xD
I've come to appreciate when I play Raidraptors, the typical point of no return for Nibiru is Arsenal Falcon, which at least guarantees you'll get an Ultimate Falcon out. If they don't Nibiru immediately, you can force their hand with Ultimate Falcon's effect. Still not a great situation to be in but if you held your Bloom Vulture, you can link your Ultimate Falcon and the token off for Sky Striker Ace Azalea, clear your own board then use Bloom Vulture's effect and figure stuff out from there.
The issue with trying to play through Nib is that it leaves you vulnerable to handtraps you could have possibly played around as well. Maybe you have a Nibiru-proof line in hand that doesn't allow you to to try and bait an Ash Blossom for instance.
Yea that’s how I feel a lot of decks aside from snake eyes handle nib. I played unchained a lot in the past and there were lines that played better under nib but lost to imperm and vice versa so you just had to know what the meta decks played and what was more likely to come up and play around that
That's why raidraptor is one of my most played decks now, I even gave up snake eye to play it,
It's such a complex deck that rewards the player for making good hand trap calls and good deck building choices, there's been so many times where I've been rewarded by properly forcing out interactions by using my hand perfectly and that's something I love about this silly bird rouge deck
I just run readiness. I can eat a nib for 2 turns, leave the board empty both times, and still make a crazy comeback turn 3 with the protections of readiness.
It felt great to hear you mention traptrix. It was the first deck i got (because of the structure deck) and started playing locals with. I heard everyone complaining about how nibiru, droll and shifter absolutely destroyed their deck but I could always do something to negate (just nibiru) or play through them and still end on a decent board. Playing that deck I learned that with time thief redoer you can even change the amount of monsters on the field to make droplet resolve without effect sometimes and there is even more interactions i learned because of my time with that deck.
Trap trix is one of the best designed decks of the last few years, such a skilled deck.
I’m big ursarctic fan, so I might as well talk about how it deals with nib. The only way to actually play through nib (not prevent it with a negate), is to have access to radiation and/or play a secondary engine that has decent plays on its own. The only time you’ll see an ursa player actually play through nib is if they drew into extenders and/or their secondary engine. The large influx of card advantage can give you the resources necessary to build your board again, although it really depends on what you drew. Issue is, even with a s/t searcher, actually getting to radiation early in the turn is not as common as it needs to be for ursa to consistently play through nib without relying on another engine, while a secondary engine essentially takes radiation’s place as an advantage generator. With baronne gone in the tcg, ursa has a tough time dealing with nib, unfortunately.
Ursarctic players have my respect. One day the prophecy will be fulfilled and Konami will drop som ursarctic support and make the deck tier zero. This will usher in 3000 years of peace
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I play pendulum magicians and the way I play through nib is by putting a vortex dragon on the field before pendulum summoning.
This sadly requires a very specific 2 card combo (or 3 more generic ones and kinda plays through hand traps).
The cool part is that vortex will hit the board AFTER nib hits and then I get to pendulum summon one monster from ED and whatever I got in my hand, which usually ends at 60~70% of my average combo.
I love how Blackwing plays around Nib. In the Simoon combo, 5 summons puts us right before Nib would put 2 synchros in grave to summon Black-Winged Assault Dragon with.
So what we do to play around that is we send Chinook, our newest handtrap, to the grave as part of Vata's summon of Black-Winged Dragon, and then revive it with the grave effect of Shamal. We can then use it on Nib itself to negate it, reduce its atk by 700, and more importantly, put Boreastorm in grave, which sets up BWAD.
Legit the most based deck and the most based line
Black wings are goated forever
branded predaplants is by far my favorite variant of branded, its plays and combos are really cool and fun, without feeling too oppressive.
@Saho-primus its slightly different, since sadly branded fusion got limited which was stupid. i ran a small despia package it with 3 aluber, 2 branded opening, and 1 branded banishment. use to run 3 branded fusion but now you need to compensate for that. ran 3 super Polly, with 1 interfusion, i think it was two of the predaplant pendulums aling with 1 sundew, and the scurpio, lonefire covra package. the extra deck was really cool though. if you run staysaylor romarin you can cheat a fusion into the grave for some fun plays. also ran hex seal light in the main to cheat out dragoon. theres a lot more too it but hopefully that helps.
I think purrely qualifies here. Skilled players play around every fucking handtrap known to man, the deck doesnt rely on omini negates or floodgates, and most lines are non-linear, forcing the player to deviate. Also Im not sure if Ritual beast qualifies here. Colossus, Protos, and shifter seem to hard carry the deck to playability imo.
whats so skilled about drawing 6 then sitting on a fat pig with hand traps for days🤣🤣🤣
So I was talking about the deck designs and their use as intended, of course we can throw garbage in like protos and shifter but that to me is unintended, I enjoy the way ritual beasts design allows it to sometimes play through nib inherently.
That being said, protos should have never returned and nemeses flag/corridor should be banned
@TheDuelingBeard Yeah if you're talking about intended purpose then ritual beast qualifies, but what do you think about purrely? And another deck I thought of, Ghoti?
Yes, the unaffected by everything huge body is not a floodgate. Sure
@@dominic7100 What kind of purrely player sits on noir and keeps it unaffected? If your opponent sits on a big fat noir, your opponent is just garbage at the game honestly. Goddess it away dude, it's not like the noir is gonna prevent you from doing anything if it's unaffected. Also floodgates are cards that prevent you from doing shit. Purrely lets you play the game, surprisingly enough.
Vanquish Sword Soul
>You only need Longyuan and add the synchros
> Protos if you feel like evil
> Rock adds back Jialong
> Dodges targeting effects with style
> burn win con with Qixing and Snow Devil trap
- the deck is brick city
The first 10 minutes should be reduced by 90% if you want viewers like me to watch more videos
Fair enough, I just needed to get a lot of info out, I’ll do better next time 😎
Repeat yourself a little less in the beginning. Same opinion as the last guy. Spammed ff just to get to the content. I’m new I like you though. Well articulated thoughts and a nice voice. I’ll sub!
Appreciate the sub!
Bro don’t tell the homie how to run his channel
My favorite way to play around Nib (not through), is with Runick Fur Hire. If you already have Runicks in hand, you can use Rafale to add a Fur Hire if you hit one and deflect Nib when it’s activated.
Or, in MD, if you open Spright Blue, you can go for Spright Starter early and hold it. Then if you get hit with Nib, you can use it later to summon a Spright and make Elf to bring back Donpa and combo from there using Rex.
My fav way of playing though nib is with plunder patrol, where you want your opponent to nib you, as this generates a light body on the opponents side of the field, then you can make blackbread with the token and go into lys and a + 1. The whole point of plunder combo is to get a light token on the opponents side of the field with jord and boom you've done it for me! Thanks!
😂 that’s a really good one, plunder as a deck sounds like the most healthy deck ever. Specializes in going second, doesn’t make degen, super cheap. It’s everything that Konami refuses to print in one deck 😂
@@TheDuelingBeard
No joke Plunder is actually a fully functional deck that can be competitive.
It's intial endboard doesn't look like much but thr amount of knowledge and technical play involved means not every game piloting Plunder will be the same.
Nouvelles my beloved, why yes I will tribute your entire board with Hungry Burger
Is Cyber Dragon based?
I always Enjoyed how Cyber Orcust played throuh Nib with Nova floating Effect over the Infinity Negation also rewarded you from not throwin away a herz early in the combo
Starry Knights. I thinks Starry knights and the lightskin dragon are cool. Litterally made the deck just cuz the dragon looked cool when I first started playing master duel and seeing cards that werent in Duel Links at the time.
Also splashed Labrynth cuz I was getting dragged by them a lot. I was a lil reluctant at first to play a deck I just got beat with but it works better than I feel like it should with the main theme being light and darkness and a pretty cool trap that works with both fairies and fiends
Yo Starry Lab? That's a unique deck pairing. Post that shit somewhere on Ygopro deck or something.
@@u.a.perfectace7786 i might as well lol. Its way too good at bullying the opponent once it gets started
Melodious is so good. quite easy to play but at the same time have many technical aspects. can play many handtraps. and like you said, plays around Nib beautifully. the opponent facial expression after chaining Etoile to the Nib is priceless. and second (even better) expression is the moment of realization what happens at Nib resolution when the field is empty 😂
When I saw that interaction I had to make a video on it, Konami randomly just strikes gold with some card designs
@@TheDuelingBeard yeah. there's another cool interaction which can be used when drawing 2 Ostinato. especially useful after Nib but can be used always. just activate first Ostinato, do any combo you wish ending with at least Etoile. use the effect of Etoile to clear the field and then use the second Ostinato to summon Bacha or Schuberta (additional points if its turn 2 and you can banish something from opp GY with Schuberta). in the End Phase, by the effect of Ostinato, the summoned fusion will be destroyed and you can summon fusion materials from GY (possibly Aria + Elegy if combo was stopped by Nib on Bloom Harmonist). either way you are getting 2 more bodies for free just because you had 2 Ostinato in hand. it's such a good feeling to resolve that irl. did you know about that interaction?
When i still played PK FIRE, at that time I didn’t have apollousa or ophion, so I just stopped at rusty bard dark Requiem and 2 fog blades. Idk if that qualifies as a good end board but I did stall the turn so I can otk with arc rebellion
That’s a pretty mean board. Basically your opponent gets no monster effects lol
I didn't have enough cards to build a branded deck so I combined chimera with branded and it has worked quite well.
Chimera branded is nice nice
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This is so unnecessary, but I love it 😂
I have played illusion chimera since it came out, it can play under nibiru and over the nibiru, even if it resolves and destroy everything, you can use the nibiru token next turn as fusion fodder and the quimeras can return a banished monster and a graveyard monster
Yeah i feel like its kinda hard to over extend for nib to be meaningful yo hurt the deck
Chimera fusion + nib token guu
Synchron has a pretty cool to play through Nib with Assault Synchron cause it's grave effect summons back a Synchro by banished itself if a Synchro is Tributed or Banished, which, since they no longer have Baronne, has actually become so much more important for the deck as a whole since the normal line gets 5 summons at minimum to just get Tuners on board. S:P, despite it being generic, at least allows some control/mid-range decks to play around Nib in a unique way since it has to banish BOTH targets and usually, if you made it going first, you have to banish a key combo piece or even boss monster with it just to keep going. My favorite however is Ghoti with Snopios. With each of the Level 2s (besides Zep) summoning themselves in Standby the turn after they're banished, Snopios banishing them from Hand or Grave as Cost, and if you summoned Snopios before 5 summons, you usually target Snopios itself to banish itself when it leaves the field, then it'll banish another fish from grave to come back as an interruption during the opponent's next turn. Ghoti's a very fun deck that has some really cool and unique interactions and its main game plan being to set up to play during the opponent's turn without using/needing generic negates makes it so fun to play.
Thats cool to hear since I assumed syncron just dies to it & ghoti is one of the decks I haven’t tested enough but it looks so cool. Really need a list to test.
Water piles can search Deep Sea Minstrel at the start of the combo, which you can then use to banish Nibiru from Opp's hand until End Phase.
That same combo can further rip 2 or 3 more cards from Opp's hand.
It's pretty good.
While I despise hand rips, I’m pretty sure minstrel gives them back which I can somewhat swallow. I like water though, really cool design and I’m looking forward to the support in the next set
New age Salad has cool in engine ways to play through nibiru, really fun to do
For real? What’s the line? I thought salad struggled with nib big time
I know a guy at locals that mains salads since they came out, and he plays around hand traps quite well. I think there's a supposed choke point when salad players summon the first raging phoenix. However, I've never actually hit them with nib there
@@TheDuelingBeard make cyberse wicckid as your 4th summon triggering gazelle in hand as the 5th summon. In master duel you look for the delay before gazelle resolves. If there is delay you send an extender to grave, if not you send roar. And if there was delay you keep the weasel you got off wicckid in hand to recover from nib.
Melodious is my favorite deck since it's release in late 2014, it was the archetype that finally made me play the game after all those years of just watching the anime. The deck was really bad, but I enjoyed it a lot at the time, until well... Breakers of shadows (when they ruined yugioh for me). When my friend told me they released new melodious support and the deck was good again, I gave it a chance, because it coincided with a good banlist (banning generic boss monster negates), and I fell in love with the deck and the game again.
Etoile is now my favorite card and I will keep playing this deck, thanks Melodious for this beautiful experience.
Glad to hear that, my experience with it was that I made it back in the day for my sister to play but it just wasn’t good enough, I though it was one of those anime decks that just wasn’t going to be great but the recent support has been amazing, it’s what every other deck can hope and dream for. Like I said, whoever made this support should be given a medal lol
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these decks do that but a top player doesn't see branded and ritual beast they see floodgates.
ash blossom, veiler, imperm all destroy decks under tier who cares about nibiru your never getting to 5 summons.
I like to play 2 grang on my branded ,because i like branded in high apirit alot
When you do ur usual branded combo with aluber cartesia(sommuned with deployment) and a discard you end up with jade and grang and an albion set end phase(no albaz in grave), cartesia in hand
Now imagine you get nibed here
Grang summon quem ,quem send albaz
End phase :cartesia back to hand ,albion search high spirit activate send grang to grave and cartesia then search albaz
Quem revives mirror jade
Ur oppent turn u have quem revival ,mirror jade with rindbrum line fuse cuz u dumbed albaz with first quem ,grang banish for second quem or for quartis ,and with mirror jade sending any card you revive cartesia with quem and since you got albaz in hand you go to another fusion line of your choice
The post nib field is acutally better than before nib in opinion
That’s wild, but I love it, branded best deck 😎
Granguignol and Cartesian are low key mvps of the deck
They crazy good indeed
0:00 to 22:41 Best moment of all the video. Better clip that
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I appreciate that 💪🏼😎
In my testing i have to say that memento (even without fiendsmith) play through nibiru very easily by making s:p at the end of their combo, i even look up all possibilitys of nib before the summon of sp and none of them do that much
That’s kinda how rescue ace plays through nib too. SP is the mvp for certain decks
Ritual Beasts mentioned: RIP my deck of 2019
😂 the deck is great now
Technically, Paleozoics can play through Nib simply by not caring about the giant rock. Survive extinction, bay bay!
🤣 overcome, improvise, adapt
Reading through the comments makes this feel like a Ralph Wiggum statement for sure, "I play dark world."
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I’m in danger 😂
@@TheDuelingBeard 😂😂🤣
Is that a YGO game music or from Wild Arms 2?
I think it's from Yu-Gi-Oh Duelist of the Roses
It’s from forbidden memories
@@TheDuelingBeard I figured as much sounds like the shop music or something. Got a nostalgic blast from 2002.
I just summon Puzzlomino, then summon Infernoid Devyaty to his zone and make her level 1.
#broken
That way you can make both negates. That’s the guu
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(Assuming you did the standard BraFu combo that starts with albaz+Lubellion make Albion)
Something cool you can do is you go quem with the Dusk Dragon, mill an albaz with quem, use the mirrorjade banish to mill Rindbrum, actually, then, on your opponent’s turn, you can banish rindbrum to summon back the albaz, discard, super poly with nib to make another Albion, and combo off from there! The spell/trap you get from Albion gy effect will also help!
(Quem will also bring back mirrorjade as a bonus)
(You can also use and DARK/LIGHT monster your opponent controls if you choose to use the board wipe)
Exactly! This is what I’m saying,make decks with skill expression and not the standard cookie cutter make apo before nib can hurt you crap
I really like the design of Ritual Beast… It’s a shame that shifter and Protos completely ruin the experience of playing against it 💀
10000%
Any deck with banish in its text just spams shifter
And the stupid nemeses monsters should never have been printed.
everybody will hate me for saying it but mathmech has an in-archetype negate in less than 5 summons, its not super skilled but if u dont have extenders you would have to relinquish the negate to link climb into whatever mathmech is climbing nowadays
oh wait this is tcg not master duel, oh well
I don’t mind in archetype negates, I hate generic boss monsters. So this counts. In our discord format we put circular back to 1 so the combos are doable still
I want to play Melodious so bad but I'm not paying 60€+ for a playset of 1st Movement Solo 😭😭😭
Please reprint it as a common in the tins 😭😭😭
I love playing pure Unchained but people who play against Yubel and Fiendsmith Engine decks keep bitching about Yama or Sharvara or both and want them banned because "Nobody plays pure Unchained, it's only good for a engine" 😭
Agreed, it pissed me off seeing how expensive the solos were. Should be in the next ots if Konami gets their head out of their butts.
& that’s why I hate the fiend pile, gets unchained cards unnecessary hate
We need a top Earth deck that might actually use the token as material...like: You nibbed me, then Thank You, you just helped me!!! LOL ❤
Haha I think Konami will make this in the future for sure
I’m going against the grain, I like how pure snake-eyes plays through nibiru. Using fieldspell to spell trap flameburg is crazy. I wish it was still just ending on amblowhale with princess in grave.
Yea if it didn’t have apo it would probably be more appreciated
bro it took almost like 8 minutes to start talking about the actual decks ... i like the premise of the video but too much fluff in the beginning
That’s fair, we will improve 💪🏼
Definitely could have just kept that last sentence as the preview instead of a whole minute tbh 😅
Fair point, I appreciate the feedback
Video starts at 22:40.
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Hi!
Couldnt find the link to discord and the banlist :(
Thank you for pointing that out, seems I forgot to link it! It’s fixed now 😎
Would we consider predaplants to be non brain dead? I find it fun to to have to set up my board to fuse with your stuff because communism lol.
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I feel like predaplants are pretty based, that level 5 fusion is insane
My favorite deck design is magical musketeer. The way you build your deck it'll determine which turn you'll play and it has a lot of variety. The runick variant is so satisfying to draw 5 while being able to handtrap with both halves of the deck. The fiendsmith version can produce some fun boards and there's diversity since there's a lot of options. My favorite right now is blind second utilizing triple tactics to search any cards to steal, board wipes, and link into the vrains. I had someone had their mind crush realizing I had an uninterruptible 4 card searcher or the ability to complete swarm the field while breaking the board. Its too much fun.
Muskets are based!
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1 melodios a lock deck
2 branded a lock deck
3 ritual beast a shifter deck
4 unchained floaters R us
4 flavors of bullcrap
1 Melodious lock is a mediocre lock, doesn’t stop you from playing.
2 Branded lock is super unhealthy but I don’t play it and it’ll be banned soon
3 Shifter will be banned soon
4 this was a reach, every deck has to do something and floating is super healthy.
These decks are still inherently awesomely designed, Konami just refuses to address 2 issues stopping these decks from being ideal design
ban protos, shifter, albion and your complaints go away
Love Traptrix playstyle, still wont play it cuz its loli bait 😭 #notlikeus
That’s the boat I’m in, that play style with different artwork would be my main
Paleo is fun
Coming from a guy Named Traplover6357.
uhh Traptrix ooooo 💢💢💢😭😭
I disagree with some of these deck choices, ngl.
Also, I think this video reinforces the idea that Nibiru should be banned.
What do you disagree about?
Also nib is a necessary evil since it keeps degen stuff at bay
As much as I despise each and every one of these decks, *e s p e c i a l l y* Traptrix, he does have a point. Most decks do not reward the player for playing cards. Half of them have gimmicks which are either hard to manage, or too many to count on one hand, making it hard to enjoy playing the deck.
It is quite nice to play a card, from an archetype, that does not punish you for playing it, rather it builds on top of the gimmick it has made its own. A +1 you could say.
Glad you understood the point I was trying to make 😎
Video starts at 0:02
But when does it end though