Thank you Alan - good stuff. Another tip from a beginner - go out at first when there is wind! I was hearing all this stuff about winging in low wind - NOT for beginners! I make sure there are white caps (15+) before heading out - and I am still a beginner (5.5m wing, 110l board). Now I need to learn to jibe and tack!
I was so frustrated in gentle wind cause I couldn't get going. However I am pretty intimidated by strong wind cause I don't want to blow away. It is nice to have a new sport to try. I am pretty worn out from surfing. I only went out when it was nice and glassy. Now I am trying to make friends with the wind.
Thanks for explaining how to steer the board in the right direction! I kept ending up going down wind because I was sheeting in thinking I needed more power to get going. This either flipped the wing or I completely lost balance.
Thank you so much to Alan for his excellent tip to steer the Board up wind.I struggle a lot to steer the Board up wind by over sheet in. My arms get tired and it does not work at all. And my instructor couldn,t tell me How I should make It better. N.Ebert
All excellent tips. Tip #3 is especially helpful for me as I started to windsurf lately (with lessons) and the conceptual framework that Alan introduced to help orient wing foilers going upwind is a very strong correlation with windsurfing. Love all your content too.
@@blueplanetsurf I am interested in understanding tip 3 new perspective to going upwind but unfortunately I cannot understand it fully because my mother tongue is not english and there are too many words that are too "loose" for me like clue, torque, core, twist the wing, twist the clue ... I am not a beginner at wingfoiling and I come from windsurfing, but I a am a bit lazy on board and don't want to make my body suffer when searching for upwind, so I am looking for tips and techniques to ride more upwind without killing knees and shoulders. For me wingfoiling must be fun first but it causes tendinitis and joints trauma. So any tip to make it funnier is welcome !
Tip #2: Another video had a real good idea that I'm going to use when learning to use a wing next year: Attach an anchor to a sup(wrap a clinch strap around the board to attach the anchor rope) close to the beach so you can't get blown too far away while learning how to turn the board with the wing.
That’s how I learned to windsurf. Not ideal as you get yanked off the board when you hit the end of the rope. I would practice as much as possible on land and then get on a SUP with daggerboard to practice how to stay upwind.
Would a 5’4 94L carbon board be appropriate for me to learn on. I’ve been skiing, skateboarding, snowboarding, surfing, flying and sailing my whole life. I’m 190 lbs.
@@blueplanetsurf Thanks so just to be 100% clear the dagger board is the fin in the middle and not just the shape of the board. I.E. You NEED to ahve the dagger fin in the middle of the board to turn upwind.
Good tips, but what about wing size? Most of the time, regardless of the discipline (kiteboarding, winging, foiling, etc.) when I take a lesson they pull out small gear. I'm 240lbs and I end up struggling. Local shop is recommending a large board and we're on the same page there. I'm thinking 7' SUP foil board as a beginner wing board and also something I can play with in the surf. They recommend a 6m wing. I see guys out there my size riding 7 and 8m wings. Our winds average 12kts or so. The shop did say that the larger wing would be easier to learn on, but cumbersome once I was consistently on foil. What would you recommend here? Maybe a 2 wing quiver. 5.5 and 7? 7 for learning and low wind and 5.5 when I gain some skill or for stronger wind. I have an opportunity to buy a complete Armstrong setup with 6'6 board and 5.5m wing. The gear was used once and I can buy for about 50% of retail. If the foil set is suitable for my size and for learning, this could be a decent deal. Then I can buy a larger used wing. People seem to outgrow them and they go up for sale.
With a windsurf background I think one session on a board with daggerboard is enough to learn the wing handling. Learning to foil will probably take a bit longer, depending on your balance and determination. Taking a lesson on the right equipment will make a big difference 🤙🏼
Hi Dave, volume depends on body weight. For learning, I would recommend at least around 1.5L per kg of body weight. So a 120L board is good for rider up to 80 kg which is ~175 lbs. To practice on a SUP you want to attach a daggerboard in center of board as mentioned in the video. Fins on the tail will not let you go sideways to the wind. 🤙🏼
Love these tips for beginners.
Much easier than trying to explain everytime to newcomers.
Thank you, yes this is a good one to share with beginners. 😎🤙🏼
Thank you Alan - good stuff. Another tip from a beginner - go out at first when there is wind! I was hearing all this stuff about winging in low wind - NOT for beginners! I make sure there are white caps (15+) before heading out - and I am still a beginner (5.5m wing, 110l board). Now I need to learn to jibe and tack!
Yes that’s a good tip, light wind winging takes more skills, no doubt 🤙🏼
I was so frustrated in gentle wind cause I couldn't get going. However I am pretty intimidated by strong wind cause I don't want to blow away. It is nice to have a new sport to try. I am pretty worn out from surfing. I only went out when it was nice and glassy. Now I am trying to make friends with the wind.
Does Alan have a how to channel?
He explained the upwind perfectly
Yes, he has many instructional videos on his Patreon channel, well worth it
Thanks for explaining how to steer the board in the right direction! I kept ending up going down wind because I was sheeting in thinking I needed more power to get going. This either flipped the wing or I completely lost balance.
Thank you. 🙏 Yes, the tip about thinking of the strut as a weather vane and using it to steer is super helpful for beginners.
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Thank you so much to Alan for his excellent tip to steer the Board up wind.I struggle a lot to steer the Board up wind by over sheet in. My arms get tired and it does not work at all. And my instructor couldn,t tell me How I should make It better.
N.Ebert
Yes, thinking of the strut as a wind sock is an excellent way to teach beginners to direct the board upwind, I have found it works wonders! 🤙🏼
Thank you for an excellent video. 🤟🤙
You’re welcome 👍😎🤙🏼
All excellent tips. Tip #3 is especially helpful for me as I started to windsurf lately (with lessons) and the conceptual framework that Alan introduced to help orient wing foilers going upwind is a very strong correlation with windsurfing. Love all your content too.
Yes, I recently used that tip to teach my daughter to stay upwind and she got it right away. 👍👍
@@blueplanetsurf I am interested in understanding tip 3 new perspective to going upwind but unfortunately I cannot understand it fully because my mother tongue is not english and there are too many words that are too "loose" for me like clue, torque, core, twist the wing, twist the clue ... I am not a beginner at wingfoiling and I come from windsurfing, but I a am a bit lazy on board and don't want to make my body suffer when searching for upwind, so I am looking for tips and techniques to ride more upwind without killing knees and shoulders. For me wingfoiling must be fun first but it causes tendinitis and joints trauma. So any tip to make it funnier is welcome !
I think I'll go sign up for Allan's class
Good idea!👍
thank so much! super useful
Stoked you like it🤙🏼
Tip #2: Another video had a real good idea that I'm going to use when learning to use a wing next year: Attach an anchor to a sup(wrap a clinch strap around the board to attach the anchor rope) close to the beach so you can't get blown too far away while learning how to turn the board with the wing.
That’s how I learned to windsurf. Not ideal as you get yanked off the board when you hit the end of the rope. I would practice as much as possible on land and then get on a SUP with daggerboard to practice how to stay upwind.
Would a 5’4 94L carbon board be appropriate for me to learn on. I’ve been skiing, skateboarding, snowboarding, surfing, flying and sailing my whole life. I’m 190 lbs.
That's a bit small to learn on, you will progress faster with a bigger, floatier board. Once you have the basics down, the 94L will be perfect.
Great video. Does the wind surfing board have to have a dagger fin in the middle of the board to go up wind or is just about the shape of the board?
The daggerboard is key to keep board from drifting downwind.
@@blueplanetsurf Thanks so just to be 100% clear the dagger board is the fin in the middle and not just the shape of the board. I.E. You NEED to ahve the dagger fin in the middle of the board to turn upwind.
Good tips, but what about wing size? Most of the time, regardless of the discipline (kiteboarding, winging, foiling, etc.) when I take a lesson they pull out small gear. I'm 240lbs and I end up struggling. Local shop is recommending a large board and we're on the same page there. I'm thinking 7' SUP foil board as a beginner wing board and also something I can play with in the surf.
They recommend a 6m wing. I see guys out there my size riding 7 and 8m wings. Our winds average 12kts or so. The shop did say that the larger wing would be easier to learn on, but cumbersome once I was consistently on foil. What would you recommend here? Maybe a 2 wing quiver. 5.5 and 7? 7 for learning and low wind and 5.5 when I gain some skill or for stronger wind.
I have an opportunity to buy a complete Armstrong setup with 6'6 board and 5.5m wing. The gear was used once and I can buy for about 50% of retail. If the foil set is suitable for my size and for learning, this could be a decent deal. Then I can buy a larger used wing. People seem to outgrow them and they go up for sale.
Sounds like you are on the right track. What volume is the board?
@@blueplanetsurf The 7'1 Starboard Take Off is 150ltr. I can stand on 120ltr, barely, so 150ltr should be good.
How long does it take to learn? I know how to windsurf. I'm thinking it might be best to take intensive lessons.
Love your videos! 🙂
With a windsurf background I think one session on a board with daggerboard is enough to learn the wing handling. Learning to foil will probably take a bit longer, depending on your balance and determination. Taking a lesson on the right equipment will make a big difference 🤙🏼
Great vid! 2 quiestions here,,what would be a decent volume for starters? 120L? and what do you think on a SUP with a Center Fin?
Hi Dave, volume depends on body weight. For learning, I would recommend at least around 1.5L per kg of body weight. So a 120L board is good for rider up to 80 kg which is ~175 lbs. To practice on a SUP you want to attach a daggerboard in center of board as mentioned in the video. Fins on the tail will not let you go sideways to the wind. 🤙🏼
This is the stick on daggerboard from Slingshot: wetfeetsports.com/products/sup-winder-by-slingshot
how do i take a lesson from alan cadiz on OAHU?
Good question. Alan is currently on Oahu, I would contact HST to see if he’s available for lessons.
hstwindsurfing.com
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