Would Commander Shepard Survive Master Chief? Debating Scalers

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  • @rougarabid
    @rougarabid  5 днів тому +6

    Master Shepard Vs Commander Chief! Who comes out on top?!
    Discord - discord.gg/hQgc3B5KuU

    • @Unknown-xr1iz
      @Unknown-xr1iz 4 дні тому +1

      Shepard. One thing you should've mentioned about biotics is that the implants (from my understanding) just help channel the biotics. We know you are either born a biotic or not a biotic at all. Since 1/10 humans (if I'm remembering the codex about biotics right) are born as a biotic

    • @shootingstar5931
      @shootingstar5931 4 дні тому

      Biotics can't be hacked, biotic implants are just signal amplifiers of a biological hability, biotic beings have said powers thanks to tumors generated on their bodies by exposing themselves to Element Zero (Ezzo) in early stages of their lifes.

    • @Dougpumper8059
      @Dougpumper8059 4 дні тому

      Thank you for editing the video to where I'm not pausing as much. I sound way more concise than I was that night.😅

    • @rougarabid
      @rougarabid  4 дні тому

      @@Dougpumper8059 welcome

  • @stevelucky7579
    @stevelucky7579 3 дні тому +4

    Chief: *gets time paralyzed*
    Shepard: *drops him from losing concentration from multiple sneezes*
    Cortana: that was lucky.

  • @thehermitman822
    @thehermitman822 5 днів тому +19

    Perfect Cell "That's the fuckin Master Chief."
    DAU *The Perfect Soldier*

  • @johnarcher6150
    @johnarcher6150 3 дні тому +5

    Master Chief crushes him, Shepard, depending on the build, merely drags out how long it takes for him to die.

  • @michaelonak3356
    @michaelonak3356 5 днів тому +9

    What if shepherd and chief switched universes and Shepard goes through the spartan program and chief gets biotic implants. Shep gets cortana and chief gets edi.
    Both appear in the other universe in eachother's backstories
    Chief starts in the blitz (me1 background)
    Shepherd starts in the spartan program just before the covenants' first contact
    Hell yeah!

  • @jonreposa2746
    @jonreposa2746 4 дні тому +4

    This battle is so close they can't even keep their names straight 😂

  • @djashovel
    @djashovel 5 днів тому +12

    Did you hear about that Cancelled Crossover Between halo and DOOM
    ( master chief was going to meet the doomslayer. That honestly could have been a movie and an alternate ending for halo 3 😢 )

  • @Zech455
    @Zech455 5 днів тому +5

    I believe master chief has situational awareness enough to constantly have annoying tactics like holding a grenade in his hand when he gets stun locked and using it in an unorthodox way but without his insane luck the biotics are doing too much.

  • @djashovel
    @djashovel 5 днів тому +8

    Imagine every clone trooper. In Star Wars being a spartan, 2 and have mass effect Bionics, that would be cool to see
    ( And for the final touch, just add fallout FEV, and you get Star Wars version of a space marine or a thunder warrior )

    • @maplemayhem1988
      @maplemayhem1988 4 дні тому

      The God Emporor thought that would be cool too

  • @reaperox_
    @reaperox_ 4 дні тому +1

    Adrenaline Rush: cool, now he matches Chief's speed temporarily

    • @millasboo
      @millasboo День тому

      Ehh naw Shepard is naturally just as fast as we see them naturally moving around at near light speeds

  • @thehermitman822
    @thehermitman822 5 днів тому +4

    I love Paragade Master Shepherd of the USNC-17. 😂

  • @williammell845
    @williammell845 5 днів тому +6

    Why is
    "master chiefs shielding is advanced enough it was built to protect agaunst weapons they didnt know existed, but we cant say for sure it could block biotics without evidence."
    And
    "biotic implants cant be hacked because weve never seen them hacked by these people who barely understand them. They must have some sort of defense even though we havent seen it."
    In one case you say "unless we've seen an example of it we cant say the shields defend olagainst this tech that weve never seen. And in the next the argument is that we can assume there js a defense against this tech even though weve never seen it. It sounds like your just trying to put the burden of proof always on the other side.

    • @rougarabid
      @rougarabid  5 днів тому +1

      That’s not the argument that was made for biotic implants.

    • @Dougpumper8059
      @Dougpumper8059 5 днів тому

      Biotics can't be hacked because they're chemical/biological implants. There's no Tech to be hacked as far as we know.

    • @rougarabid
      @rougarabid  5 днів тому +1

      Yep, that’s the argument that was made.

  • @djashovel
    @djashovel 5 днів тому +4

    You knew my dream crossover is halo and mass effect in star wars
    That would be awesome
    ( I wish star wars did crossovers😢 )

  • @jedbedrock2944
    @jedbedrock2944 5 днів тому +3

    I love the "Master Shepherd"

  • @shirokami4235
    @shirokami4235 5 днів тому +4

    Sam gideon (Vanquish) vs Master chief (halo)

  • @darkreflection9087
    @darkreflection9087 4 дні тому +4

    (Doctor Who) Dalek vs (Warhammer 40k) Necrons

  • @bluespartangaming1514
    @bluespartangaming1514 3 дні тому

    The way I've seen it Shepard has the better guns but Chief has the better armor, given that Chief's armor was capable of withstanding the heat of re-entry into Earth's atmosphere plus the crash back on Earth while Shepard's armor got severely damaged tanking Harbinger's laser.

  • @reaperox_
    @reaperox_ 4 дні тому

    Kat's ACTUAL feat is this:
    She was hanging upside down from a steel cable by her thighs and one arm, swinging from said cable off a tower in the Unyielding Hyrophant and sniping a pilot out of a maneuvering Banshee that was doing attack runs on the rest of Blue Team, not damaging the Banshee at all, but rather shooting through the crack in the side of the cockpit.

  • @Odd1337
    @Odd1337 2 дні тому

    If Shepard ran The Banished Spartan killer gauntlet in halo infinite he would get ass killed.

  • @millasboo
    @millasboo День тому

    14:40 Technically it’s both biological and technological as we see in the me codex the implants are used to channel the energy better but we know some extremely skilled people can use the energy without biontics. We learned that kids were genetically altered from the element zero effects and over time genes adapted and kids started to develop strange abilities. The biotics was the equivalent to a hearing aid not needed necessarily but makes it way easier to live with the ability to manipulate the fundamental principles of physics

  • @millasboo
    @millasboo День тому

    18:33 They explain it in the dlc. I’m currently working my way through the legendary edition game

  • @Hagaspaba
    @Hagaspaba 4 дні тому

    They did the fusion dance and became master Shepard

  • @Ser-Lusacan
    @Ser-Lusacan 2 дні тому

    The biotic implants are more of an assist to the biotics
    And that song I'm fairly certain was a fan song and it was "fight like a krogen run like a leopard you're never better than commander Shepard"
    ua-cam.com/video/HiRDJLcYua0/v-deo.htmlsi=C_9TByZ1rSZSyFk1

  • @Spinosaur101
    @Spinosaur101 4 дні тому +1

    Y'all immediately get into the argument instead of breaking the characters down to figure things out rationally, I both hate and love it. 😂 John 117 has the physical strength, speed, and durability advantage over Shepard, that's pretty clear. One survived a drop from orbit, the other did not; one can do a fuckton of pull-ups, but the other can flip a fuckin tank. Their weapons are pretty equivalent I'd say, but Shepard gets the whole cake in the powers department with the tech and biotic abilities at his disposal, (especially the biotics). Experience and Battle IQ I'd also have to give to Shepard by a hair, but only because Shepard has a more varied skill set outside of just being a super soldier; that being said, a death match is a death match, and I highly doubt Shepard's diplomacy experience would come in handy here. I really don't see him talk-no-jitsuing Master Chief into pulling a Saren and deleting himself.
    Ultimately, I think it really just boils down to what Shepard we're talking about here. Master Chief's character and feats are all pretty set in stone through the books and games, Shepard is a lot more ambiguous to the point that they don't even have a canon gender. If we're just talking basic bitch Soldier class Shepard with one or no biotic abilities, or Engineer Shepard, I think Master Chief mops the floor with them. If we're talking Adept, Vanguard, or Composite Shepard with access to all abilities, then Shepard wins, Mid-High Dif.

    • @Dougpumper8059
      @Dougpumper8059 4 дні тому

      I should've pressed the point that while Shepard wins over all. He wins 6 times out of 10. Shepard has too many ways to approach the fight with Mass effect tech. While Chief has to bring the best of his arsenal to level the playing field with the majority of Shepard's since they all shoot Faster than light and dozens of them are much more powerful than Chief's.

    • @Spinosaur101
      @Spinosaur101 4 дні тому

      @Dougpumper8059
      Halo and ME's weaponry is actually pretty evenly matched; sure the UNSC's weaponry overall is a bit technologically lacking in comparison, but Covenant and Forerunner tech both match and surpass Mass Effect's weapon tech in some ways. Not trying to sound condescending, but y'all should read Mass Effect's codex, it explains the weapons fairly well including the fact that most of the handheld weaponry in ME doesn't fire FTL projectiles. Don't get me wrong, their weapons are FAR better than any powder-actuated force multiplier could ever hope to be, they can reach up to light speed, but the weapon actually calibrates the type and speed of the projectile to maximize energy transfer to the target. It's fascinating stuff, but a lot of Halo's weaponry can compete IMO, Krogans would LOVE gravity hammers. What really isn't fair here for Chief though is Biotics; the in-game representations of biotics are pretty limited for balance, but just look at Jack. Chief wouldn't have any defense against some of the Jedi shit Shepard could pull on him with them, and it basically negates his physical edges over Shepard. In the Citadel DLC, Liara and James even kind of demonstrate this.

  • @dethvel8568
    @dethvel8568 4 дні тому +1

    Saying Halo aliens are regular dudes and Mass Effect enemies are special is wild.
    I never played mass effect, but from what aliens I've seen, as in those that join your gang, they're pretty generic. Maybe it's because at some point the game lets you bed them so they had to make them as humanoid as possible for the "players" (does that count as a pun?)
    In terms of Cortana hacking bionics, they aren't hacked because no one in Mass Effect understands them is my take. Cortana on the other hand, she figured out what the Halo was about and how to use stuff on it within minutes. For sake of evening the field, lets scale the reapers up to forerunner level. The small amount of tech in the individual would be learned within less than a second. So yah, answer to the stuff being hackable is very important, if talking about a shepherd that chose that class path.
    Saying either character can dodge light because you saw it in an animated movie is similar to taking flowery language literally. They're made to hype stuff up, to excite the reader/viewer. I don't care if it's the Master Herder or Commander Cheff, neither of them are dodging the beam coming from a sniper jackal in Halo 2 on Legendary.

    • @Dougpumper8059
      @Dougpumper8059 4 дні тому

      Biotics aren't a form of technology they're natural skills enhanced by chemical implants. Yes Rouga stated Chief's enemies are basic soldiers but we replied to that and even though we were right that didn't change the outcome of the fight/discussion

  • @DomAnthony89
    @DomAnthony89 3 дні тому

    16:09 biotics work because of element zero being in the individuals system. Their blood and muscle and brain and everything. A trained biotic can use their abilities with a thought, just brain signals. Biotic implants just make this process easier by amplifying the brain input.

  • @Greasy__Bear
    @Greasy__Bear 4 дні тому

    Shepards advantage is biotics and charisma.
    Chiefs advantage is skill, strength, and more skill.
    Shepard has a dedicated stealth ship and a crew. Chief is alone.
    If shepard can gather a crew he has a solid advantage.

  • @natehanson9672
    @natehanson9672 4 дні тому

    Ok random idea but bubble shield generator with a smaller generator inside it so the generator has a smaller bubble shield around it-immortal bubble shield

  • @loganjustlogan8367
    @loganjustlogan8367 4 дні тому

    Video 2 of asking you to do a chimera challenge of some sort.
    I think you’d really have a lot of fun with them. Doesn’t matter what you do, have a good time. Maybe a survival challenge of characters dropped into resistance earth.

  • @wyatteason1876
    @wyatteason1876 4 дні тому

    I kinda want to hear / do a mass effect vs halo ship battle or a unsc vs system alliance debate

  • @shadowy_dog8953
    @shadowy_dog8953 5 днів тому +1

    I 100% agree with everything said and apologize to rouga for the name thing 🤷

  • @reaperox_
    @reaperox_ 4 дні тому

    I don't think I heard one big issue, Spartan-IIs are stealth experts, Chief would just strike from the shadows with a damn railgun or even the M99 Stanchion rifle from range with the first shot. Which would end the fight in one shot either way, the round on both goes relativistic, and is so heavy compared to the Mass Effect DUST GUNS that they'd rip right through the shield and then the armor.

    • @rougarabid
      @rougarabid  4 дні тому +1

      Shepard is also a stealth expert as well as fights against stealth experts.

  • @benjamintennyson4638
    @benjamintennyson4638 4 дні тому +1

    For the biological or tech argument for biotics, they are a NATURAL ability. Implants just help focus, control and increase the power of biotics. I am not sure if you covered that in the part I am on yet, but if you did, I will correct/delete this post.

    • @rougarabid
      @rougarabid  4 дні тому +1

      Not as eloquently as you did, thank you.

  • @reaperox_
    @reaperox_ 4 дні тому

    Master Chief is the average of all the Spartans, he's literally the composite Spartan-2. His skill level is higher on base than Shepard, Shepard would have legit died if he went to one battle Chief did. They just can't really be compared, the power level of ME vs Halo isn't really close.

  • @alecstapley9709
    @alecstapley9709 4 дні тому

    People keep talking about Master Shepherd, but I think I want know more about Commander Chief;)

    • @rougarabid
      @rougarabid  4 дні тому

      @@alecstapley9709 To be fair, Commander Chief doesn’t make sense. John is called Master Chief because he’s a Master Chief Petty Officer. If he became a Commander he’d just be Commander John which is…lame.

    • @alecstapley9709
      @alecstapley9709 3 дні тому

      @ I know, just being funny. Another funny thing is Shepherd’s first name is also JohnXD

  • @madspice1663
    @madspice1663 4 дні тому +1

    Halo side talking about tech when the UNSC still uses 5.56 NATO rounds LMAO!

    • @Dougpumper8059
      @Dougpumper8059 4 дні тому +1

      Until they collected and integrated forerunner technology. People just don't realize that because the worst games made that cannon.

  • @dakotalange2858
    @dakotalange2858 4 дні тому

    Shepherd was still alive when they went into the planet you can see them struggling when they re enter the planet

  • @hetzer5926
    @hetzer5926 4 дні тому +3

    Short answer: No. Shepard would get bodied like a toddler

  • @theheronamedvillain2131
    @theheronamedvillain2131 4 дні тому

    Chief you mind telling me why your on that reaper, sir speedrunning the reaper war 200% faster

  • @Greasy__Bear
    @Greasy__Bear 4 дні тому

    The biotics use an amplifier not a computer. You cant hack an amplifier. They are called an amplifier.
    You cant hack things that are not computers.
    Also humans can use biotics without an amp its just weak.

  • @illegitimatesquid4321
    @illegitimatesquid4321 4 дні тому

    Shepard wouldn’t last 5 minutes against a Spartan.

  • @maplemayhem1988
    @maplemayhem1988 4 дні тому

    At the end of the day the Chief should only be able to bring UNSC issued weapons, meaning the SPNKer is an option. Between that and high velocity armour piercing rounds that can take the hat off an Elite at 2000yrds. Shep is gonna have to put the Chief down fast. Question is how effectively can an M8 or M7 drop chiefs shields or get throught that Titanium?

    • @Dougpumper8059
      @Dougpumper8059 4 дні тому +1

      The UNSC collected covenant and Forerunner weapons as they came across them. That's why they're Relevant and Shepard can overcome Chief's armor with a variety of weapons. It comes down to Shepard having more options to win the fight than Chief does.

    • @maplemayhem1988
      @maplemayhem1988 4 дні тому

      @Dougpumper8059 I'm not convinced that any of those options are gonna be enough, tho. Shepard got taken out by a bit of Normady debris. Chief flew through 2 exploding ships to deliver a bomb. If anything that should prove that the durability difference is enough for Chief to tank just about any of Shepards options.

  • @dakotalange2858
    @dakotalange2858 4 дні тому

    You can shut down implants in mass effect the engineer can do it

    • @rougarabid
      @rougarabid  4 дні тому

      You’re talking about Damping which shuts down all tech and biotic abilities even from Asari who don’t use Biotic Implants. The ability has nothing to do with implants. It’s also an ability that only appears in ME 1. In 2 and 3 the Engineer gets Sabotage and Overload neither of which affect Biotics.

  • @diegocardenas6494
    @diegocardenas6494 4 дні тому

    1:04:29 James bond needs to be on the list

  • @realsuperbunnyman2460
    @realsuperbunnyman2460 4 дні тому +2

    Simple answer, no. Complicated answer, hell no. Shepherd can't throw a tank. Nor does he have near unbreakable bones, or super human reflexes. Toast, easy day for chief.
    Compare Shepherd to rambo, rambo is a human. Not a super human. Master chief is more in line with the physicality of a krogan, even then cheif would be tossing a krogan around like a pitbull with a chihuahua.

    • @rougarabid
      @rougarabid  4 дні тому +1

      Outside of throwing a tank Shepard can do all of that. You didn’t watch the video.

    • @realsuperbunnyman2460
      @realsuperbunnyman2460 4 дні тому

      @rougarabid I don't really need to, to understand that a literal super human isn't gonna have even the minutest of issues man handling a slightly augmented person. Nothing in the games says they have super reflexes, or near unbreakable bones. They have reinforced bones, which puts their bone structure on the same durability as steel. But not on the same level as chiefs near unbreakable bones. Cheif could tie a bow tie out of steel. They have augments that make them have a slightly higher than normal perception of speeds, but they aren't superhuman enough to take advantage of any kind of "blitz-like" shenanigans to normal people.
      Shepherd is not a superhuman. Chief is. Simple as.

    • @realsuperbunnyman2460
      @realsuperbunnyman2460 4 дні тому

      @rougarabid Chief in his armor weighs nearly 1ton bro...
      I love Shepherd, he's my favorite in sci-fi games. But I'm not delusional enough to stick him in a room with a literal God and think he's gonna come out on top.

    • @rougarabid
      @rougarabid  4 дні тому +3

      “Nothing in the game says he has super reflexes”
      Literally has adrenaline rush which enhances reflexes to the point that all enemies look like they aren’t even moving.
      This is why you watch the video before commenting.

    • @realsuperbunnyman2460
      @realsuperbunnyman2460 4 дні тому

      @@rougarabid nothing in the game says he has heightened reflexes maybe. But the books literally talk about how he watches things fall significantly more slowly than normal. So much so that he begins to question the gravity of his location.

  • @reaperox_
    @reaperox_ 4 дні тому

    So much Halo bullshit fakery from the talkers, but I'm not allowed up there...

  • @topherclay6131
    @topherclay6131 5 днів тому +1

    Go team Shepard...... Lol

  • @mad_man_savage452
    @mad_man_savage452 4 дні тому

    Isn’t cannon shepherd the solider class ? And if that’s the case why is biotics not a factor

    • @rougarabid
      @rougarabid  4 дні тому +1

      No, there’s no canon Shepard.

  • @Keyatzin
    @Keyatzin 5 днів тому

    They focused just on Biotic Shepard, I think it would be fair to measure up a Biotic, a Tech and a Soldier Shepard, with Soldier Shep as the most interesting match up. And in that case, the winner is whoever makes the first move.
    Nah, but of course Shepard wins. He outranks Master Chief.

    • @thehermitman822
      @thehermitman822 5 днів тому

      He may have rank but MC works for a living.

    • @Keyatzin
      @Keyatzin 5 днів тому

      @thehermitman822 but Commander Shepard Fucks. So another point for Mass Effect. Lol

    • @Keyatzin
      @Keyatzin 4 дні тому

      @@thehermitman822 yeah, but Shepard fucks. So, that's another win.

  • @quintonconrad5745
    @quintonconrad5745 4 дні тому

    The real question is why are they fighting I feel like they would team up
    Also I’m pretty certain that in canon shepherd is femshep

    • @rougarabid
      @rougarabid  4 дні тому +2

      There is no canon Shepard.