Damn, TMM taking two whole games (not rounds) is huge. Seems the final score was 2-4, but thats impressive considering Joka is arguably the best T8 Heihachi and also a top 4 level player. Fishing for the single hellsweep lows early for plus frames can be surprisingly effective at high level, but Joka shut that down quick. He's amazing to watch.
Mainman is pretty good but when he's under pressure, especially against pro players. he starts using the same patterns and gets wrecked. If he goes beyond this mental constraint he can become proper solid.
Agreed, he shouldn't have relied on the hell sweeps as much, and should have tried focusing more on whiff punishing JoKa with electrics, JoKa read him like a book with those hell sweeps and electrics he was throwing and was constantly launch punishing TMM for it, he has to play more patiently against pro players, and needs to change it up and be more unpredictable, I agree tho if he changes it up and becomes more unpredictable, he could most definitely keep up with pro players. Great sets tho nonetheless, they both played great, JoKa is probably the best Mishima player in the world rn, and the fact that TMM won 2 games on him is still really impressive to me, especially since he has never played professionally before
@@Steponmeplease-gy8es is right,boys… , 80’s and late 80’s are the O.G’s . We were your older bros who were so good, you didn’t even need to play the game because you saw the ending already. Cut MMS some slack. Damn youth of today 😂
@@BGRUBBIN liquid is the yellow haired twin of solid snake and he dies in mgs1. in mgs ocelot takes his arm and with it his persona, which leads him to say he is liquid ocelot, but in mgs4 we find out he took psychological therapy in order to be able to be liquid’s doppleganger. He does all of this with a group of old patriots(eva,sigint and others) to save big boss
Well if it serves as any consolation, it is one of the most complex lores in gaming, I played through the entire saga and some things are still confusing to me. But it could be a Liquid Ocelot skin, so you're not too far off.
Good games all around idk why people making seem like tmm didn’t do good they both played very well Id say tmm even leveled up from this joka taught him some things he prolly didn’t know about the character
is joka ready to bring the old man to the grand stage? I can see shadow pulling him out maybe (pause) since he pulled ling in the last tourney out of nowhere.
People sleep on the mainman because of his occasional bad take an his occasional salt moments but like... Bro is still a very solid high level player as far as online goes. He isnt bad at the game and so many of his dedicated haters dislike him because he is popular and makes a living off tekken while not being a tournament winning level player meanwhile the haters themselves are hard stufk blue ranks that are mad because they think they are better than the mainman and cant make a living playing the game lol. Dont get it twisted though it he was going to smaller tournaments maybe not twt buts smaller events he would be able to place top 8 in my mind that shouldnt be up for debate hes still pretty damn good.
TMM should get a job and spend time with his family and stop sperging on the internet. People call him white LTG for a reason. Although he is better at tekken ill give him that
@@clubnightparade no bro. We all talk smack in the heat of the moment and all that but most people, at his age as well, don't go into these long arse cope sessions about how it's not our fault we lost and insult everyone and everything but ourselves. He is a manchild with an ego that's far beyond his accomplishments.
@@revivedkyoumahououin1585 I mean to me it seems like he hams it up for his chat, it all seems awfully... obtuse. He wasn't as over the top a while ago but the people who watch him stream seem to get a kick out of the accent as he rants and the mouth fart noises again I don't really watch him stream but thats just what I've seen when I'm in there from time to time. Plus his accomplishments seem pretty solid to me love him or hate him he has accomplished way more than 99 percent of the tekken community ever will, he placed 97th at evo which is nothing to scoff at he has the largest tekken community as far as I'm aware he has close communication with the people who make the game and he was featured as the final boss for the tekken online challenge during covid lock downs. In the community he is a universally known character for better more than worse. Most people view him in a positive light and I feel like alot of these blue rank haters who vehemently despise him just do it to feel superior to him.
Bamco really need to improve the netcode, most of those drops were not due to execution error. Strive and SF6 online feels close to the offline version.
I played against a Hehachi Assailant rank quick match was a great match alot of repspect. No mindless spamming good old fashioned tactical mind game Tekken match.
@Ryan-vc9if he would think biy maybe he had just gotten into T8 you never know. Maybe he was playing T8 all I know he was better than Most god ranks. Played like an OG Tekken player no gimmicks
After watching this i have so much more respect for JOKA. His play style is OVERALL “BETTER” than the TMM. He looks for whiff punish better.. spacing is ALOT better. His KBD is ALOT better. Execution is probably on par with TMM. Respect to both, but this is what separates tournament players from the REST.
I love watching TMM, but that is very true, there is a huge difference between a Tekken content creator who is high ranks with several characters, but doesn't play professionally, and a actual professional player, a lot of people don't seem to understand that in the comments
You can see the clear difference. Tmm is typical Mishima player who relies on hellsweaps and random electrics vs good poking based joka who uses all heihachi potential. Tmm does the same things for decades
Well no shit Sherlock, there is a huge difference between a professional player who is probably the best Mishima player in the world rn, and a content creator who is high ranks with several characters, but has never played professionally before. It's still impressive that he won 2 games on JoKa tho, especially since he has never played professionally before. He needs to play more patient, and more unpredictable to keep up with pro players. JoKa read him like a book when it came to the hell sweeps and electrics he was throwing out, and he got launch punished for it everytime. Definitely agree with you tho that TMM definitely relied on those random hell sweeps and electrics, he needs to start using Heihachi's full kit if he wants to keep up with the pros.
@@buchy1275 tmm I’m pretty sure spent more time in his life playing tekken than joka lol and he still plays like this. Man also tried to play professional but got cooked
@@Straaaayyyy again, TMM is not a professional player, he doesn't play against pros that often, so what tf do you expect? The only time I remember him playing against pros often was in TTT2, where he performed pretty well against them. The fact that he got 2 wins on JoKa is still impressive af, quit hating for no reason
@@buchy1275 tmm I’m pretty sure spent more time in his life playing tekken than joka lol and he still plays like this. Man also tried to play professional but got cooked
MainMan really should've stopped doing sweep. Every time got launch punished. I think he got one sweep only for like a measly 10 damage. It's unfortunate that Hei has no good lows.
It's too bad tho. Lots of sets TMM could've taken but he goes on offensive with Heihachi. His reach isn't as good as Tekken 7. If he turtle a bit, maybe it'll be better. His spacing looks like Kazuya but Heihachi has weak lows. Still, Joka used some down 4s to interrupt
Just Mainman's name in the title gets 200+ comments and 68K+ views on a replay video. If you still don't understand the difference between MainMan and a Tekken Professional, then just buy some salt on your way home.
Glazing,dude is a joker people watch to laugh and point at You would've put LTG in the title and there would be even more views,stop riding or buy lube on your way home
@noidsuper people tend to forget even though mainman made great combo videos, he was only a few notches from elite pro level especially in his hay day of TTT2, he actually used to do sets with them and do dang good.
Are we looking at the same score line bro??? Joka took it 2-4. But two sets Vs Joka is insane. He's arguably the best heihachi in the world, and also a top 4 player. Taking two rounds, let alone two whole games is huge.
You casual, he's facing the best Heihachi player in the world lol. And he still managed to take 2 matches from him in two sets. That is very impressive from someone who isnt even a pro player. It's actually commendable, I have no idea why smoothbrains are hating on him for it
Heihachi's hell sweep or spinning demons still too slow and predictable, it should of trip on hit like kazuya own, namco is still holding back on him, he need back his spinning demons to demon uppercut, twin pistons rising and standing.
but.... how is this possible??? The Main Man told me only Kazuya mains knew fundamentals and knew how to play Tekken so how could he always lose in these videos on UA-cam???? I dont understand!!!???😢
@@heroicsquirrel3195 JoKa is the best Heihachi in the world rn, and is probably the best Mishima player in the world, and is a professional player. So the fact that TMM won 2 matches in JoKa is really impressive, especially since TMM has never played professionally before. It isn't rocket science bruh
@@buchy1275 what about all the koreans, surely one of them is just as good with mishimas and mainman has been playing his whole life and been tryhard af that whole time, its nit surprising he won at all, you all act like joka is some superpowered being , hes just a human anyone can beat him especially if they have legacy skill and practice the game, have some sense bruh
Here before TMM complaining about ping, lag spike etc. In his UA-cam video against JOKA Edit : My god, the amount of people who don’t get the sarcasm here, go achieve something with your life instead of idolising online personas.
Love the fact, that anyone can take any tekken character and play them all different. Everyone got their own flavour to each character. Love it.
TMM did a lot better than I expected. Taking a game off Joka two sets in a row is commendable.
If there were money on the table Joka would whipe him completely
Also important to note. Pro players tend to play more relaxed and less serious in casual sets.
He took two games actually. Final score was 2-4, which is pretty good against a consistent top 8 player in Tekken.
@@DreadPyke tmm is his job too .. he lost quite convincingly
@@Nmode1990 No, his job is content creation. Joka would make any Emperor rank look like Genbu, and it was nowhere near that bad.
Damn, TMM taking two whole games (not rounds) is huge. Seems the final score was 2-4, but thats impressive considering Joka is arguably the best T8 Heihachi and also a top 4 level player.
Fishing for the single hellsweep lows early for plus frames can be surprisingly effective at high level, but Joka shut that down quick. He's amazing to watch.
JoKa is a beast
The world’s greatest Mishima player vs The world’s oldest Mishima player
I hate that this is unironically the best way to describe this match.
Joka isn't the best and TMM inst the oldest. What matchup You are talking about?
@@m4rcin847 I bet you’re fun at parties
@@anchan4540 It’s always funny when people say this because it’s so tired and unoriginal
@@norf-kr6od I bet you’re fun at parties.
I bet Joka's hei costume is Liquid Ocelot
It is he is
Revolver Shalashaska Ocelot sounds better.
👈👈😤
seems that metal gear fan is here
Mainman is pretty good but when he's under pressure, especially against pro players. he starts using the same patterns and gets wrecked. If he goes beyond this mental constraint he can become proper solid.
Agreed, he shouldn't have relied on the hell sweeps as much, and should have tried focusing more on whiff punishing JoKa with electrics, JoKa read him like a book with those hell sweeps and electrics he was throwing and was constantly launch punishing TMM for it, he has to play more patiently against pro players, and needs to change it up and be more unpredictable, I agree tho if he changes it up and becomes more unpredictable, he could most definitely keep up with pro players. Great sets tho nonetheless, they both played great, JoKa is probably the best Mishima player in the world rn, and the fact that TMM won 2 games on him is still really impressive to me, especially since he has never played professionally before
@@Steponmeplease-gy8es Dude, Knee is about the same age. 40 isnt old
Dude's main is Kazuya💀💀💀
@@dannyrpt and?
@@Steponmeplease-gy8es is right,boys… , 80’s and late 80’s are the O.G’s . We were your older bros who were so good, you didn’t even need to play the game because you saw the ending already. Cut MMS some slack. Damn youth of today 😂
I really like this revolver ocelot skin joka has
I thought it was Liquid. But I don't know that lore very well.
@@BGRUBBIN liquid is the yellow haired twin of solid snake and he dies in mgs1. in mgs ocelot takes his arm and with it his persona, which leads him to say he is liquid ocelot, but in mgs4 we find out he took psychological therapy in order to be able to be liquid’s doppleganger. He does all of this with a group of old patriots(eva,sigint and others) to save big boss
Well if it serves as any consolation, it is one of the most complex lores in gaming, I played through the entire saga and some things are still confusing to me. But it could be a Liquid Ocelot skin, so you're not too far off.
@@lucasmegadeth ıt s his mgs4 outfit
Bro dropping MGS complicated Lore for casuals casually lol@@oscarisopthebest3424
0:33 Heihachi is directly looking at you
Six bullets. More than enough to kill anything that moves
Heihachi can catch bullets brother
@@nodruoJ huh... Ok...?
Good games all around idk why people making seem like tmm didn’t do good they both played very well Id say tmm even leveled up from this joka taught him some things he prolly didn’t know about the character
People like to hate. They have nothing better to do anyway
@@dannyrpt for no reason too lol
Liquid Heihachi
Joka’s Hachi control is just scary as all hell
is joka ready to bring the old man to the grand stage? I can see shadow pulling him out maybe (pause) since he pulled ling in the last tourney out of nowhere.
He only pulled out Ling cuz she counters King... I don't know yet what characters Heihachi can counter
Wow that’s Ocelot 😂
That was fun to watch
Quick asf with the upload!
Satisfying.
YES GGGGGGOOD MIRROR §§
People sleep on the mainman because of his occasional bad take an his occasional salt moments but like... Bro is still a very solid high level player as far as online goes. He isnt bad at the game and so many of his dedicated haters dislike him because he is popular and makes a living off tekken while not being a tournament winning level player meanwhile the haters themselves are hard stufk blue ranks that are mad because they think they are better than the mainman and cant make a living playing the game lol. Dont get it twisted though it he was going to smaller tournaments maybe not twt buts smaller events he would be able to place top 8 in my mind that shouldnt be up for debate hes still pretty damn good.
TMM should get a job and spend time with his family and stop sperging on the internet.
People call him white LTG for a reason. Although he is better at tekken ill give him that
People dislike him because he insults his opponents all the f... time for dumbest reasons.
@@Shibu_PL ... don't most people. I see k wiss do it, I see joka do it, the only tekken streamer I don't see do it is like phidx.
@@clubnightparade no bro. We all talk smack in the heat of the moment and all that but most people, at his age as well, don't go into these long arse cope sessions about how it's not our fault we lost and insult everyone and everything but ourselves. He is a manchild with an ego that's far beyond his accomplishments.
@@revivedkyoumahououin1585 I mean to me it seems like he hams it up for his chat, it all seems awfully... obtuse. He wasn't as over the top a while ago but the people who watch him stream seem to get a kick out of the accent as he rants and the mouth fart noises again I don't really watch him stream but thats just what I've seen when I'm in there from time to time. Plus his accomplishments seem pretty solid to me love him or hate him he has accomplished way more than 99 percent of the tekken community ever will, he placed 97th at evo which is nothing to scoff at he has the largest tekken community as far as I'm aware he has close communication with the people who make the game and he was featured as the final boss for the tekken online challenge during covid lock downs. In the community he is a universally known character for better more than worse. Most people view him in a positive light and I feel like alot of these blue rank haters who vehemently despise him just do it to feel superior to him.
Scrupman very predictabo with he’s hellsweeps
His kaz does the same thing too because he is used to fight players that don't block lows.
scrupman is better than you 😂
@@Buhngothat’s true
@@Buhngo 2 things can be true at once. stop riding that thang.
@@Buhngo plz defend his honor!!! 😂
Taking a game and the popoff!! 👏🏼
Am i the only one who thinks Joka Heihachi looks like Revolver Ocelot in MGS4?
Bamco really need to improve the netcode, most of those drops were not due to execution error. Strive and SF6 online feels close to the offline version.
I love how in your title joka #1 hei and then there's tmm hei😂😂😂
is there a jin/reina player with nickname Boka?
I played against a Hehachi Assailant rank quick match was a great match alot of repspect. No mindless spamming good old fashioned tactical mind game Tekken match.
lmao nobody at assailant rank is playing any sort of “mind game tekken”
@Ryan-vc9if he would think biy maybe he had just gotten into T8 you never know. Maybe he was playing T8 all I know he was better than Most god ranks. Played like an OG Tekken player no gimmicks
2:50 Tekken 8 hitboxes strike again!
As a lifelong Tekken fan, sometimes they really are sh*tboxes lmao.
10:48 I watched an entire video about how you can't just dash in and do b4 made by TMM himself. This man just ran in and whiffed b4.
12:09 tmm activated it because he KNEW there wouldnt be a final round😂
Tmm plays joka like I would play tmm.
Anyone saying Joka is the best Heihachi has clearly not been watching JDCR.
After watching this i have so much more respect for JOKA. His play style is OVERALL “BETTER” than the TMM. He looks for whiff punish better.. spacing is ALOT better. His KBD is ALOT better. Execution is probably on par with TMM. Respect to both, but this is what separates tournament players from the REST.
I love watching TMM, but that is very true, there is a huge difference between a Tekken content creator who is high ranks with several characters, but doesn't play professionally, and a actual professional player, a lot of people don't seem to understand that in the comments
JoKa is probably the best Mishima player in the world as well, but I'm still impressed with how TMM played against him tho
@@buchy1275he's strong but I feel the top Korean Mishimas are stronger.
@@DreamsOfGarudayeah most def from what i heard qudans is like the god father of mishimas but joka is def really really good
hella scrubman
Ya this character seems balanced
SNAKE, BROTHERRRR
Nice duel
imagine thoses guys against ltg,he would cry all of his tears 🤣🤣🤣
MGS4 Ocelot lmao
The one and only Scrubman...
You can see the clear difference. Tmm is typical Mishima player who relies on hellsweaps and random electrics vs good poking based joka who uses all heihachi potential. Tmm does the same things for decades
Booooo!
Well no shit Sherlock, there is a huge difference between a professional player who is probably the best Mishima player in the world rn, and a content creator who is high ranks with several characters, but has never played professionally before. It's still impressive that he won 2 games on JoKa tho, especially since he has never played professionally before. He needs to play more patient, and more unpredictable to keep up with pro players. JoKa read him like a book when it came to the hell sweeps and electrics he was throwing out, and he got launch punished for it everytime. Definitely agree with you tho that TMM definitely relied on those random hell sweeps and electrics, he needs to start using Heihachi's full kit if he wants to keep up with the pros.
@@buchy1275 tmm I’m pretty sure spent more time in his life playing tekken than joka lol and he still plays like this. Man also tried to play professional but got cooked
@@Straaaayyyy again, TMM is not a professional player, he doesn't play against pros that often, so what tf do you expect? The only time I remember him playing against pros often was in TTT2, where he performed pretty well against them. The fact that he got 2 wins on JoKa is still impressive af, quit hating for no reason
@@buchy1275 tmm I’m pretty sure spent more time in his life playing tekken than joka lol and he still plays like this. Man also tried to play professional but got cooked
pro vs youtuber
MainMan really should've stopped doing sweep. Every time got launch punished. I think he got one sweep only for like a measly 10 damage.
It's unfortunate that Hei has no good lows.
Playing heihachi and considering ur self good is like playing a game u paid once and u said and now i will pay again to win
It's too bad tho. Lots of sets TMM could've taken but he goes on offensive with Heihachi. His reach isn't as good as Tekken 7. If he turtle a bit, maybe it'll be better.
His spacing looks like Kazuya but Heihachi has weak lows. Still, Joka used some down 4s to interrupt
Just Mainman's name in the title gets 200+ comments and 68K+ views on a replay video. If you still don't understand the difference between MainMan and a Tekken Professional, then just buy some salt on your way home.
Glazing,dude is a joker people watch to laugh and point at
You would've put LTG in the title and there would be even more views,stop riding or buy lube on your way home
Skill gap is huge
Joka is the best in Europe now according to the tournament record and he is the only European can complete with Asian players.
I mean yeah he’s an insane pro player. The fact that TMM did as well as he did is commendable.
@@jkdman2007 our UA-cam recommendations must look similar. Lmao
@noidsuper people tend to forget even though mainman made great combo videos, he was only a few notches from elite pro level especially in his hay day of TTT2, he actually used to do sets with them and do dang good.
Are we looking at the same score line bro??? Joka took it 2-4. But two sets Vs Joka is insane. He's arguably the best heihachi in the world, and also a top 4 player. Taking two rounds, let alone two whole games is huge.
This is why scrupman will never be seen in pro scene, he can't even beat joka xd. He will never be on pro levels. Literally just rank warrior.
joka's a top 8 player bro don't downplay him 💀
@@Brandon-du7ox o... my bad then... but still joka destroyed him like a rookie
It's joka 😐
You casual, he's facing the best Heihachi player in the world lol. And he still managed to take 2 matches from him in two sets. That is very impressive from someone who isnt even a pro player. It's actually commendable, I have no idea why smoothbrains are hating on him for it
The downplay is crazy
Rekt
scrupman got wiped
Heihachi's hell sweep or spinning demons still too slow and predictable, it should of trip on hit like kazuya own, namco is still holding back on him, he need back his spinning demons to demon uppercut, twin pistons rising and standing.
Hellsweep is tough one miss n you're dead
😂😂😂😂😂nah that's what you get for calling Joka a "scrub" you did okay tho tmm ggs
but.... how is this possible??? The Main Man told me only Kazuya mains knew fundamentals and knew how to play Tekken so how could he always lose in these videos on UA-cam???? I dont understand!!!???😢
He's playing against the best Heihachi player in the world bud. Calm down😊
@@ghost_ender8298 joke went right over your tiny little head, dumbass😊
LIQUID
why this is tekken and is identified has sf6 change that
TMM is the very definition of Tekken Junkie! Even pros will have an issue with TRUE 20+ VETERAN PLAYERS like the SW!
Man that kinda looks like Liquid Ocelot…
…
>_>
Holy shit
Tmm got his ass humbled 😂😂😂😂
😂 chill
Tmm really took a match from joka 😂
Two matches!!!
So
@@heroicsquirrel3195 JoKa is the best Heihachi in the world rn, and is probably the best Mishima player in the world, and is a professional player. So the fact that TMM won 2 matches in JoKa is really impressive, especially since TMM has never played professionally before. It isn't rocket science bruh
@@heroicsquirrel3195 there is the explanation since you are dumb af
@@buchy1275 what about all the koreans, surely one of them is just as good with mishimas and mainman has been playing his whole life and been tryhard af that whole time, its nit surprising he won at all, you all act like joka is some superpowered being , hes just a human anyone can beat him especially if they have legacy skill and practice the game, have some sense bruh
Here before TMM complaining about ping, lag spike etc. In his UA-cam video against JOKA
Edit : My god, the amount of people who don’t get the sarcasm here, go achieve something with your life instead of idolising online personas.
dont forget stream snipe
how can he stream snipe, moves cant be predicted unless its a shooting game
Can you please explain why that person is that popular?
TMM(themainmanswe) or Joka?@@John.Doe.X1
He only does than when he plays vs players in a different region. Joka also plays in EU
1st
tekken 8 is a trash game.