@@lz9275 That's true. And also, here's a stupid ass comment in the discussions of Steam that I found. Feel free to criticize the people for whining about this so-called "censorship". "Censorship is never acceptable. Also it's called the slippery slope. We'd rather not see the 4Kids legacy return after decades of it being dead and buried. Besides no one is saying you shouldn't play it, we're saying you shouldn't' pay for it. The Seven Seas are a wonderful place full of treasures for those patient enough to find them." - VI6 D DARK KING on Steam. These mfs really think I'm going to pirate a game when I can ALREADY GET A HARD COPY OF THE DAMN GAME IN AN XBOX SERIES X, NINTENDO SWITCH, OR PS5!
i saw a person make a video about this, they said "it takes away her feminine energy, and it shows disrespect towards normal female features." like what the actual heck, they did not get rid of her chest, all they did was cover it up a bit more to make it less s3xual, idk whats wrong with people
@@Hewasnumber1no it quite literally isn't what are you yapping about 😭 she is a character in a KID'S GAME like come on now, the fandom has made people forget what's real and what's fan service. Her design has nothing to do with her as a character. Y'all are being very strange about this
the ppl what are complaining about this needs to get a life like a real one thats not complaining about something that makes sonic games more for kids and i think its a good thing sega did this cus then there will be less simps
Honestly I feel you bro. People be overreacting about this type of stuff like way to much it’s just a minor change to Rogue’s model and yeah who cares??? As a Sonic fan I feel kinda conflicted with this type of drama and of course people on Twitter are complaining about this, like dang dude people are crazy sometimes just keep it to yourself people.
@@corywilliams6923Sega partnered with a DEI consulting firm in 2023. Diversity and Inclusion agencies restrict how women (and misrepresented population) are exposed. Amy Rose and Rouge the Bat cannot be in their original form. The Tomb Raider remasters and Metal Gear Solid are also required to have a warning that it has "outdated" depictions of others
@@corywilliams6923The Shadow portion is not for younger audiences. The way Shadow beat the final boss is violent. This is purely the result of Sega's new ethics department. Proper inoffensive depiction of women is necessary in 2024. Amy Rose's original character was also problematic. She had to change
I think it's also worth remembering that Sega wanted to change Rouge from the start. The character was poorly received before due to her hyper sexualization and Sega tried to change her in Heroes
In 2023, Sega partnered with a DEI consulting agency. Which means games must now pass diversity requirements, and correctly depict others (women included.) AAA publishers partnered with those agencies cannot depict women the same way they did decades ago. Uncensored remasters are now required to get a warning from the start (like Tomb Raider rereleases) about its outdated depictions
the ppl that are mad over this pls just stop its a VIDEO GAME THIS IS JUST AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!! what world we live in btw the fact that are mad over this is just insane i have lost all hope in humanaty
"It's no big deal" Why then change it in the first place? I don't like any kinda censorship (which this case might not be censorship) because I'm affraid by having small censorships that are accepted over time any media maker will try make consumers follow they propgranda or something.
She's supposed to be the Femme Fatale of tue Sonic franchise with a touch of sexy and glamour. I don't care whatsoever about this small change to her outfit. Didn't even notice it till now, but if SEGA ends up censoring her anymore, they might as well change her design as a whole.
People seem to be forgetting that there has always been an effort to make Rouge less sexual, such as changing her outfit in Sonic Heroes, censoring her cleavage in the 4Kids dub of Sonic X, giving her a less seductive voice, and changing her outfit AGAIN in Sonic Prime. This isn’t anything new, and if Sonic’s history with censorship is anything to go by, it’s probably not going to last.
In 2003 (if you were born then) the vast majority of Sonic fans wanted the 4kids cast fired from Sonic. Every UA-cam channel in 2007 demanded Jason Griffith and 4kids leave, and Mike Pollock made an article out of it. Sega's original website article (2010) when Jason Griffith got fired addressed how fans kept requesting 4Kids actors to leave so they hired Roger,Craig
@@KnucklesWTD-uu3ps I was born in a year later and honestly when I got the opportunity to watch sonic X I didn’t think it was that bad. What were people complaining about?
It's not about boobies. It's about character betrayel. Rouge was supposed to wear revealing. She always has been. I would also complain if Amy's clothes started to be revealing.
If the change isn't a big deal, why change it at all? The E10+ rating (maybe even the A or B ratings for Japan's CERO) allows suggestive themes, so I don't see a valid reason why Rouge's appearance should be changed. It's censorship.
@@Andythesonicfan, Rouge was always meant to be a femme fatale type of character. Taking what made her such a way, such as toning down her teasing voice and covering up her outfit, diminishes that.
@@Andythesonicfan, if the change wasn't that much, why even change it at all? Censorship can prevent expression of many things, such as characters wearing revealing clothing. I highly doubt it was necessary to cover up her outfit.
Kids seeing real women with the same clothing or even worse: it's ok Kid seeing fictional character exposed quite a bit : your to young Like ngl we western kids would see this in daily basis
@@HaziqWaqiuddin What is very wrong? Because if you see a problem with them making a fictional bat in a children's series less indecent, there is something very wrong, but it would be with you. However, if it's with OP's actions (particularly the first four words), then yeah, that's valid.
im on both sides. i think covering her up was an alright idea, but i do see why people are mad about that she wouldnt be able to put her clothes on, i think they shouldve just changed the front
People are upset because *its not just Sonic Generations* hit with censorship. Its a very recent pattern the last 5 years of gaming/entertainment. So at this point its easy to get angry when the latest game is hit by it. You can argue that its only minor censorship because Rouge goes as far as Sega can push the "E" rating. But there is a uniform recent pattern where essentially every "modern" remaster got affected by with everything concerning female characters, and Sonic was hit first
All I'm gonna say I prefer no censorship especially on unnecessary stuff. Previous game didn't have this I don't see why this one have to. As for the reason I'm against it, is because I'm against all form of censorship. If we give these people an inch they take a mile. It gotten so bad that even Rate M game have to be censored.
@BlazeGamerZX the game was essentially forced to be censored due to the ccp the other games aren't forced by literal world governments to be censored also yes DRDR was made by a Chinese company
@@dravenmartinez6311 That still doesn't change the fact that we shouldn't allow it to happen. Haven't you seen how bad it is in China with all their laws?
The re-writse completely understandable if you have an issue with but BREATS. BREATS!!!??? WTF IS WRONG WITH SOME PEOPLE!?!?!?!? If you want a s**y character just take bayonetta.
bro not only censored sexy, but also spelt breasts wrong not just once, but twice. "BREATS. BREATS!!!???" also, no, her model change is just one of the many complaints of the censorship of Generations' rewrite. please use your head next time.
The issue here is that the censorship is unnecessary. The reason why her outfit exposes her back is so that it doesn’t get in the way of her wings. Now it doesn’t make any sense, and looks bad. Also, if you become complacent with small amounts of censorship, it WILL get worse. They censored all the slapstick humor. Next they’ll likely make it so you never directly fight an Eggman piloted machine ever again. After that, they’ll possibly even remove death animations outright, or even stop adding spikes. Next thing you know, Sonic will have a rounded, PG acceptable design with overalls, and he won’t even give the slightest bit of attitude to anyone, saying things like. “Gee, Eggman! You sure caused trouble! Now, let’s work out something we can both agree on, buddy!” Don’t get complacent with censorship when there’s no reason to censor it in the first place, unless you want Sonic to be a preschool icon. Remember, all the slapstick jokes are gone. It’s not just Rouge’s design.
@@MetalHopper I suppose, however there's no obvious holes, making the design look like a lazy texture, or material edit. I could probably do the same thing with the OG model by simply using Blender to replace polygons that had skin material to now use the material of her outfit, then simply pull up the verticies of the heart shaped part of her outfit over the cleavage. Point being, this is a lazy, unnecessary edit. She was fine in SA2, they changed her design slightly in Heroes to a full body latex suit, then back to her SA2 outfit, but censored. She's already censored.
the people complaining about this are the same people that still call current amy annoying, they are such degenerates its insane. why do you care how a fictional bat in a fictional world puts on her fictional clothes for a game MOSTLY made for kids 😪😪
If people are upset, just let them. As long as a "remaster" or "rerelease" makes a percieved unnecessary change people will get upset. My uncle got upset because he watched a streaming (Disney+?) video of his favorite 1990s jokes but it was redubbed to change slightly offensive jokes. I wasn't bothered, but he was. With other remasters (SA2 Battle) I dont even understand what change occured, yet people are upset. So when it comes down to it; don't "fix what isn't broken." As others said if a Sega line of Sonic Heroes is redubbed, or if a pixel is changed I would be upset. But thats only how I feel about Sonic Heroes. Not Generations. Either way, people upset at these things just need a venting place to vent with each other. I dont care about Generations, but. But I get upset at minor localization changes in art and dialogue that happens in anime, even if others find it minor. So... its a hot topic. Death by 1000 cuts.
I don't have any problems about censoring rouge but the rewrite plot, especially rewriting the dialogue lines and not changing the animation in the cutscenes is what really bugs me. Especially with knuckles and classic sonic interactions
Honestly, makes the game feel ironically, a bit more realistic people like to say it’s more so like a little nod to the old games, but no, these would be legitimate things. All the characters would have questions about. Like how they’re traveling through a time with the time stones that’s not just a nod. That’s a legitimate question. How are they doing that? And also thank God, they actually referenced the names of the islands. It’s a small thing, but it goes a long way to whirl building in a game that was not really praised for having world building.
Oh, simple it's the classic, you give these people an inch they take a mile. I'll be honest I barely notice the different at first. But I believe that any form of censorship is bad. I don't like how they change Amy either. If this was a new game and not a DLC type of game then I wouldn't have a problem with it especially if they gave these character a new design.
@@Samorutt1324 the point is that they changed her in specifically this game and nowhere else. it's such a small, insignificant change that it makes you ask: why? this idea that this criticism is invalid because it deals with cartoon bat boobs is just braindead and prevents actual criticism from ever being taken seriously.
this series is not family friendly, that's a Western perception of the series. may I remind you of Shadow 2005 for the PS2? not just that, but the Japanese scripts still have words such as damn and hell.
Real women have worse clothe So it's quite hypocrite to support wearing what u want but acting then it's weird when game characters do that If u have that problem with fictional character more then real one it's u the gooner one
me when I never developed critical thought and don't understand what the problem is so I have to call people names because I take information at face-value instead of thinking for longer than a nanosecond on an issue:
that's not the issue, the issue is that it's such a small change that it makes no sense on why they would change it. this goes for the whole rewrite of Generations, not just the model change. please stop this braindead thought of "well they said something about her boobs, therefore they are a gooner!" you must lack critical thought and cannot understand actual criticism.
"If it's not a big deal to make a character less sexual in a children's video game, why change it? I'm not upset but why did they make a children's character less sexual?" Almost like putting overly sexual characters in *a children's game* is a bad idea. Can you really not figure that out? Are you alright sir? If you really need the bat to be attractive to the average woman enjoyer just type her name into google, it's probably that easy. Hell, the old version of the game still has it without the changes! Go play that! You don't need to buy a new Shadow game with a generations remake for it. Being attracted to cartoon animals in a children's series? Sounds pretty bad.
@@CR1MSONACEI'm not attracted to it. now that I think about it, its mainly fine and makes rouge *slightly* less sexual. Rouge isn't an overly sexual character in sonic games. Still isn't an change that's needed but most kids wouldn't even care about it so I'll let it pass.
@@CR1MSONACE This idea that Sonic is a kid's series is such Western slop I can't believe you genuinely believe this. No, Sonic is specifically a Teen series. You wouldn't understand this, probably because you either ARE a kid yourself or you genuinely lack reasoning skills and don't know anything about the series' history. Rouge is not even the first femme fatale the Sonic series has purposed: scrapped characters like Madonna and Tiara Boobowski (may I remind you this character literally has BOOB in her last name) were, at the very least, purposed as love interests for Sonic himself and, while they are scrapped characters, are shown to be either voluptuous or have an emphasis on their chest. Madonna especially was in a strapless dress and had an exposed cleavage. A character named Breezie was also introduced in the Looney Tunes-styled cartoon called the Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog, who also wears a strapless dress with exposed cleavage and tries to seduce Sonic in the whole episode she was in. *This is a cartoon explictly made for children.* If, and this is a big if, this series was made for kids, then it would reflect that. Mario is a kid's series and it reflects that. Sonic has always tried its best to lean more into edginess and be for young teens at the very least. After all, this series was made at a rival to Mario, who was DEFINITELY made for children. The West has always been the one to think this series is only specifically made for children. But even then, we're talking about a series that was able to show SatAM to children, which is significantly darker than both Adventures and Underground in terms of cartoons. Sonic X's Metarex Saga was also fairly dark, even with the censorships 4Kids made. Also, to your idea that you can't be attracted to a cartoon animal, have you literally NEVER had a childhood crush? You don't think, out of all the possible forms of entertainment out there, you never found one, not ONE, person attractive as a kid? For many people, Rouge was their first. For other's, it was Amy, Blaze, Tikal, Wave, Sally Acorn, Bunnie Rabbot, and many others that came out of the franchise. This idea that you can't have a crush on a cartoon is pretty absurd, as even as far back as the early days of cartoons, the 30's and 40's, people still made voluptuous cartoon characters! It's made with the intent to be attractive! Are you not going to call Sega gooners too? They designed the character, they gave her jiggle physics! It would sound pretty hypocritical to me if you didn't.
I agree with everything this video says. "Then why change it if it's not a big dea-" SHUT UP, BRO!! JUST PLAY THE FNNUY BLU MASCOT GAME AND MOVE ON! Life is too short for these types of online arguments!
For Saga: I don't know why they feel the need to make censors changes that are so small. Especially for remasters, if you were fine with the old look before why are you now sensitive to show what you ok'ed in the past. For the fans: Why are you so upset over a change this small and how did you notice it? It's no wonder people say to go watch Corn to people. Out of everything the game has to offer Gex appeal isn't even a huge part of the game and Rouge is barely even in it. Is the Gex appeal the thing you liked most about the outfit? As long as the outfit isn't super noticeably censored then it shouldn't be such a big deal.
you... just answered your last question with your first question. I genuinely can't understand why you would make this comment. also, stop just calling people gooners because they are criticizing a model change that just so happens to be about her boobs and back. that's clearly not what the criticism is and this strawman lacks critical thought.
@biohazardbin That's why I made the comment targeting both sides instead of just one on Gex appeal. One side is being shy and sensitive to show what they've shown before and the other is having a meltdown over something most people would have to look for to notice. If the meltdown isn't over Gex appeal censors then why are they getting so upset in your opinion? Character designers being too scared to show revealing outfits?Nerfing body type sizes when some of it is realistic to real life sizes? Covering up women so that the women aren't for the male gaze?
@@TheRealSpartanCowboy Then make Rouge a Nun or wear a hijab. It the safest way to not oversexualize character since it isn't a big deal right? Cover her from head to toe do the same for Amy no big deal just minor changes.
@@TheRealSpartanCowboy Since it not a big deal. Let's change all female character to non existing. Make them a nun or wear a hijab, gotta do those diverse and inclusive practices. Let's make Amy a lesbian and Rouge aroace. Not a big deal right?
The problem with your video is that you aren't open-minded enough to understand the bigger picture. We are in 2024 and there is a constant battle against censorship. Japanese game creators are complaining and blaming the epidemic on the West. If you look into the reasoning behind the censorship its purely DEI and,politically related. 2024 is a time when people on the street dont even like censorship (not specifically videogames) Even if censorship was not the issue, the changes made should not be made. Amy's fanbase liked her crazy Sonic obsessed character but thats no longer allowed. Not for "writing" purpose but it goes against current DEI regulations. *But the main reason people are upset is because the changes are permanent. As long as Sega's is a client of said DEI agency*
showing back and stuff and the character is called : Oversexualized kid game character toning these down and its called: censoring and not following the original you see...both are right in their own respective ways, but they contradict each other
@@Skoufidios As the saying goes. Give them an Inch they take a mile. I care because I don't wanna give them an inch. People like you are the reason we have game like Veilguard among other games.
@@TheRealSpartanCowboy The early 2000s in general. Even in Paper Mario, they couldn't avoid it. *PAPER. MARIO.* Well, at least Flurrie is literally the worst partner.
The issue people have is an ongoing slipperly slope. Particularly with Western games every time a Japanese game is remastered. Its always a minor cover up in a remaster thats always "not so serious." But if its not serious why do this with every remaster. My personal issue with the Sonic Generations remaster that its in no way better than the original version. Its a lazyRemaster, and the only changes worth mentioning account to toning down. Its a death by 1000 cuts issue.
It lets the team create a new Shadow game without having to sell it as one, that's why. Oh, the reason they cover these things up is because having a character like Rouge in a children's series... It should already be obvious. For a bonus point though, you can have the answer of "it makes people attracted to the children's characters." Which is particularly concerning when most of those characters are teenagers. And the others are old men.
@@CR1MSONACE, the characters in the Sonic series or in any stylized media in general are fictional. The morality of one being attracted to the characters within these works of fiction shouldn't be much of an issue.
@@PKSuperStar256 When they're children, absolutely. I don't know how old Rouge is because *I'm not looking that up,* but there's still consent issues and showing suggestive characters to children, even if she was "legally" allowed to.
@@CR1MSONACE, the E10+ rating allows suggestive content. The equivalent PG also does. Just look at Coraline and "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?". Both of these are PG and have suggestive content, yet kids are allowed to see these movies. Besides, there is nothing truly explicit and it's not truly fanservice to the point of something T-rated/PG-13 or beyond.
okay, if it's not that big of a deal, why did they change it? I'm totally fine if the new rouge design is used in a new game, the problem here is that they changed her design in old game, and the only reason for this is due to cencorship. That's what really upset people, it's just straight up saying that big booby women are "inappropriate". To me, that's body shaming.
Oh bloody hell... 💀💀(This is legit stupid bro, WHY get so MAD over THIS?! I can understand, it wasn't really needed. BUT PLEASE STOP BEING SO THIRSTY FOR BAT SKIN LMAO-)
I'm just going to say this if "it's not a big deal" then why did SEGA went out of their way to make this changes? If the changes are so tiny and unnoticeable why prioritize making those changes insetad of giving us a proper remaster? The shadow side is cool I just have some nitpicks about it, but the sonic side It's like they almost didn't care about it, the only new thing they added was the chaos in the levels. I found new bugs that were not in the original before the first boss, they could only give us 60 fps for a 13 year old game while modders were able to uncap it in the original, there is no longer a life system but you are still able to buy lifes in the shop, these were just somethings I found while playing myself. One would think they would look at these thinks to try and give the best experience to newer players BUT INSTEAD they were more worried in changing dialongs in the voice-acted cutscenes, other minor changes in certain cutscenes and censoring the bat (and honestly if they wanted to censor her they just needed to change her normal costume for the Sonic Heros's one and everyone wouldn's even know it was censorship intentionally or not). And personaly what infuriates me the most is the fact they went out of their way to make this small changes instead of changing the final super sonic boss fight known to be one of THE WORST final boss fights in the franchise. These thing just show where SEGA had it's priorities.
Anime manga artists overreact to "minor" edits in western localization of the manga. I dont even "get" the Sonic Adventure DX complaints nor Halo Anniversary changes that upset people. But the main point remains: if the main change was so minor, why bother changing it in the first place?
Me personally I have to agree with spartan. THIS IS A KIDS GAME BRO. WHY DO PEOPLE WANNA GO TO A KIDS GAME TO SEE A GODDAMN BAT WITH SEXUAL FEATURES. LIKE THATS JUST WEIRD AS HELL
Hey, buddy. Let me remind you that this series is older than you are. Also understand that it's not a kid's game or a kid's series. It's heavily leaned toward teens and adults and that's why the majority of that demographic play them to this day. Also also, this is such a one-dimensional way of thinking that it glosses over the actual issue of the "remaster." If you were older than 12, you'd probably understand. Give it a couple years, buddy.
I have no issue with moving the heart plate up a bit but thw wings clipping though tje outfit is jarring of tje character design I'm an artist, also the kids game aurgument is a dumb aurgument because nothing was wrong with the character design since SA2 kids were fine. Making a rant about Rouge's chest is just as weird. You says you're"normal" but no one is "normal" these days so opinion can be made about botched character designs and personalities. Critisisms can be made.
Ahh yess, slight chances to make her less sexual, and peps losing their mind, i guess i can get it, but the target of this game is for everyone, including kids, so covering her up slightly isn’t really a big deal lol. That fact that you noticed might say smth bout you:/
In 2024 censorship angers many people. Yes, not everyone is upset by censorship. But the political state of the world (meaning the West) means you get negative reactions. The censorship of Rouge is the result of a political issue and this leaked into 2024 elections. So yes, its a big deal. The fight for censorship and the fight against censorship. Outside the internet it doesnt specifically involve games but the conflict is the same
Well until it’s time to paint America as a bully, then we’ll complain about America being entitled and muddying the original Japanese work and forcing it’s ideas
To behonest with you the whole censoreship to me seems unneccesarily because for one majority of kids don't really pay to my attention to detail in games or in characters that much they just play the games its only when they get older and hit puberty they would but sonic not is that explicitly that it needs censorship. I grew up playing games that were explicit with violence and gore and some characters who were too sexually explicit. But as a kid do you think that you care about those things? no you wouldn't because you be too busy enjoying the game to be pay any attention to those things anyway and sure i played games that were for kids like sonic, mario, crash bandicoot, mega man etc. But at the time i was interested in hack n slack games that any parent who are too sensitive don't want their kid to play. Suprise call of duty hasn't gotten hit with censorship yet like remove the blood or making the games shoot nerf bullets.
I mean, I couldn't care how much they cover up her *dual features.* But... Yeah... Her wings going over her clothing still makes no sense. As a (somewhat) perfectionist, it *kinda'* bothers me.
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I actually didn't notice it either...and i don't care that much... But it's a little funny for me...because i don't think the standarts of kids games changed at all between 2017 and 2024, because in Forces...she was not censored...heck even the Murder of Sonic from like a year ago didn't censor her, but Sonic X Shadow Generations of all things just...decided to change it suddently I'm not complaining, but it's little weird that they censored her now, when they could have do it a year ago...
People being upset about Amy changes is what's really annoying. So you guys whine about her character for twenty years, rightfully so, she was pretty annoying, everyone and their mother disliked Amy rose back then, but now when they try to make her character more likeable, and by proxy, her and Sonic's interactions, people are upset over it? Calling it "woke"? Really?
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most of these people aren't even sonic fans. they can't even pronounce rouge right.
Most of these Twitter users aren't actual Sonic fans.
most twitter users aren't fans of video games in general
@@lz9275 That's true.
And also, here's a stupid ass comment in the discussions of Steam that I found. Feel free to criticize the people for whining about this so-called "censorship".
"Censorship is never acceptable.
Also it's called the slippery slope. We'd rather not see the 4Kids legacy return after decades of it being dead and buried.
Besides no one is saying you shouldn't play it, we're saying you shouldn't' pay for it.
The Seven Seas are a wonderful place full of treasures for those patient enough to find them." - VI6 D DARK KING on Steam.
These mfs really think I'm going to pirate a game when I can ALREADY GET A HARD COPY OF THE DAMN GAME IN AN XBOX SERIES X, NINTENDO SWITCH, OR PS5!
@@lz9275 That's true.
Agree they’re just grifters trying to capitalize off of people’s anger for anything just so that they can make monry
i saw a person make a video about this, they said "it takes away her feminine energy, and it shows disrespect towards normal female features." like what the actual heck, they did not get rid of her chest, all they did was cover it up a bit more to make it less s3xual, idk whats wrong with people
It is "censorship" no different than a 4Kids anime edit that may or may not upset people.
Except sexuality is a core aspect of Rouge’s character. It’s disrespectful towards her character to tone down the sexual side of her.
@@Hewasnumber1no it quite literally isn't what are you yapping about 😭 she is a character in a KID'S GAME like come on now, the fandom has made people forget what's real and what's fan service. Her design has nothing to do with her as a character. Y'all are being very strange about this
@@Hewasnumber1 just say you fap to rouge porn
@@Hewasnumber1 Its a fucking cartoon bat
*please* go outside
the ppl what are complaining about this needs to get a life like a real one thats not complaining about something that makes sonic games more for kids and i think its a good thing sega did this cus then there will be less simps
Honestly I feel you bro. People be overreacting about this type of stuff like way to much it’s just a minor change to Rogue’s model and yeah who cares??? As a Sonic fan I feel kinda conflicted with this type of drama and of course people on Twitter are complaining about this, like dang dude people are crazy sometimes just keep it to yourself people.
If its so minor, why bother changing it to begin with. And this is the same response every time a Japanese game is edited by the West
@@ling8956Probably for certain reasons like for younger audiences or something.
@@corywilliams6923Sega partnered with a DEI consulting firm in 2023. Diversity and Inclusion agencies restrict how women (and misrepresented population) are exposed.
Amy Rose and Rouge the Bat cannot be in their original form. The Tomb Raider remasters and Metal Gear Solid are also required to have a warning that it has "outdated" depictions of others
@@corywilliams6923The Shadow portion is not for younger audiences. The way Shadow beat the final boss is violent. This is purely the result of Sega's new ethics department.
Proper inoffensive depiction of women is necessary in 2024. Amy Rose's original character was also problematic. She had to change
@@KnucklesWTD-uu3ps Ah I see and I get it.
I think it's also worth remembering that Sega wanted to change Rouge from the start.
The character was poorly received before due to her hyper sexualization and Sega tried to change her in Heroes
“Quite received”? I’m guessing that was a typo 😅
@@samirjohnson4524 The character received ______ before due to her hyper sexualisation.
There, now it's a cards against humanity card.
Sega (Japan) did not want to change Rouge. Sonic X has fanservice... even the 1996 Sonic OVA does that thing.
In 2023, Sega partnered with a DEI consulting agency. Which means games must now pass diversity requirements, and correctly depict others (women included.)
AAA publishers partnered with those agencies cannot depict women the same way they did decades ago. Uncensored remasters are now required to get a warning from the start (like Tomb Raider rereleases) about its outdated depictions
Sonic is a Japanese series. Hyper sexualization is a problem specifically in the West. Notably America
People: if its a minor change why change it at all
Me: if its so minor why are you upset about it
because it doesn't make any fucking sense on why they would change it. are you dense?
the ppl that are mad over this pls just stop its a VIDEO GAME THIS IS JUST
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!! what world we live in btw the fact that are mad over this is just insane i have lost all hope in humanaty
"It's no big deal"
Why then change it in the first place?
I don't like any kinda censorship (which this case might not be censorship) because I'm affraid by having small censorships that are accepted over time any media maker will try make consumers follow they propgranda or something.
This is EXACTLY why the defence squad and this video don't really look at things both ways.
I said the exact same thing for the rewrite disaster.
If it's a minor change then what the fuck is the point of being so upset about it when this already happened back in 2022?
@@ThunderTheYellowJolteon *"when it happened in 2022"*
Did we say we accepted it back then???
@@ataladin87 I was talking about Sonic Prime.
Rouge's back was already covered up in that show.
@@ThunderTheYellowJolteon now answer my question.
Did we ever have a time where we accepted it back then???
She's supposed to be the Femme Fatale of tue Sonic franchise with a touch of sexy and glamour. I don't care whatsoever about this small change to her outfit. Didn't even notice it till now, but if SEGA ends up censoring her anymore, they might as well change her design as a whole.
I mean, honestly, they stuck with the heroes design and then polished it a bit more. I think they could’ve had something there.
I mean they have kept changing her design every like 2 years they should have kept the jumpsuit from heroes
I mean, her whole body was already covered up in Sonic Prime.
Honestly, you people are weird of you are getting that worked up over a fictional character in a CHILDREN'S GAME being more kid-friendly
2:28 *clears his throat* yknow how they censored Shadow the Hedgehog?
i don't mean the Character, the game from 2005?
People seem to be forgetting that there has always been an effort to make Rouge less sexual, such as changing her outfit in Sonic Heroes, censoring her cleavage in the 4Kids dub of Sonic X, giving her a less seductive voice, and changing her outfit AGAIN in Sonic Prime. This isn’t anything new, and if Sonic’s history with censorship is anything to go by, it’s probably not going to last.
The 4kids dub got people angry in 2003
In 2003 (if you were born then) the vast majority of Sonic fans wanted the 4kids cast fired from Sonic. Every UA-cam channel in 2007 demanded Jason Griffith and 4kids leave, and Mike Pollock made an article out of it.
Sega's original website article (2010) when Jason Griffith got fired addressed how fans kept requesting 4Kids actors to leave so they hired Roger,Craig
*American censorship* is the history of censorship. America isn't the world
@@KnucklesWTD-uu3ps I was born in a year later and honestly when I got the opportunity to watch sonic X I didn’t think it was that bad. What were people complaining about?
@@Tippsters-10 The people love the previous voice actors. They still do to this day.
It's not about boobies. It's about character betrayel. Rouge was supposed to wear revealing. She always has been. I would also complain if Amy's clothes started to be revealing.
Um when they changed rouge and Amy's model in sonic prime to make it appropriate for kids did you also complain about that
@ yup.
If the change isn't a big deal, why change it at all? The E10+ rating (maybe even the A or B ratings for Japan's CERO) allows suggestive themes, so I don't see a valid reason why Rouge's appearance should be changed. It's censorship.
“It’s censorship.” So? Is that automatically a bad thing?
@@Andythesonicfan, Rouge was always meant to be a femme fatale type of character. Taking what made her such a way, such as toning down her teasing voice and covering up her outfit, diminishes that.
@@PKSuperStar256 she’s still sexy, even when censored, so she hasn’t changed much
@@PKSuperStar256 they haven’t changed her personality as far as I know
@@Andythesonicfan, if the change wasn't that much, why even change it at all?
Censorship can prevent expression of many things, such as characters wearing revealing clothing. I highly doubt it was necessary to cover up her outfit.
You really don’t seem to understand why this all really does matter. And SEGA didn’t actually change anything, this was all the doing of localizers.
W comment, bro.
SEGA just makes the games.
Although it's a small, easily unnoticeable change, they still went out of their way to change her up.
EXACTLY. Why did sonic team bother changing these details? That’s the bigger problem. The script and voice acting are also worse.
At least they didn't delete her chest. 🐱
@@ThunderTheYellowJolteon But they did. What you're seeing is just her outfit.
Isn't this a kids game 🤔
It's Sonic 4 green eyes bs all over again. Smh. 🤷♂️
the people who say. WHY WOULD THEY UNHOT HER?!??!? like bro💀
Kids seeing real women with the same clothing or even worse: it's ok
Kid seeing fictional character exposed quite a bit : your to young
Like ngl we western kids would see this in daily basis
It's not that bad of problem but it's sure hypocrite and people getting angry about it are right in some point
As a Rouge gooner, I see no problem with this.
It's very wrong.
its november
@@HaziqWaqiuddin What is very wrong? Because if you see a problem with them making a fictional bat in a children's series less indecent, there is something very wrong, but it would be with you. However, if it's with OP's actions (particularly the first four words), then yeah, that's valid.
@CR1MSONACE don't mess with us sonic fans, we can't take take jokes
@@ninlaw9810 haven't done it yet, thx for reminding me tho
Just like you said THIS IS A FRICKING KIDS GAME BRO PEOPLE ARE SO DOWN BAD😭
people aren't down bad, you just lack the critical thinking skills required to understand WHY someone would be mad at this.
im on both sides. i think covering her up was an alright idea, but i do see why people are mad about that she wouldnt be able to put her clothes on, i think they shouldve just changed the front
Didn’t notice until someone said something about it lol
Dont worry guys: we got you covered on deviantart 😏
My Man! 😎
How about you take this omochao and listen to it lecture you about why thats a not where you want to go
@bbguy2245 You're a pervert.
@@Sundrey438 and this is why I have those settings off you square (lol)
People are upset because *its not just Sonic Generations* hit with censorship. Its a very recent pattern the last 5 years of gaming/entertainment.
So at this point its easy to get angry when the latest game is hit by it. You can argue that its only minor censorship because Rouge goes as far as Sega can push the "E" rating. But there is a uniform recent pattern where essentially every "modern" remaster got affected by with everything concerning female characters, and Sonic was hit first
Average rouge gooner fr
@@clapitzme no there is actually been a trend of that there is some legitimate argument, although… they’re just t**tys just go to Hooters!
@@clapitzme someone lacks critical thinking and reasoning skills.
@@biohazardbin omigosh reduced tits in the kids game
I didn’t even know she had jiggle physics back in sa2
This is prob so weird people dont be freaky with her but i dont mind actually about rouge in SXSG
I can relate. I also didn't notice the changes until someone pointed it out.
All I'm gonna say I prefer no censorship especially on unnecessary stuff. Previous game didn't have this I don't see why this one have to. As for the reason I'm against it, is because I'm against all form of censorship. If we give these people an inch they take a mile. It gotten so bad that even Rate M game have to be censored.
Can we stop bringing up DRDR for once
@@dravenmartinez6311 No. We cannot let just let this keep happening. This is why it must be said.
@BlazeGamerZX the game was essentially forced to be censored due to the ccp the other games aren't forced by literal world governments to be censored also yes DRDR was made by a Chinese company
@@dravenmartinez6311 That still doesn't change the fact that we shouldn't allow it to happen. Haven't you seen how bad it is in China with all their laws?
@BlazeGamerZX you make a good point but counterpoint who the hell even used the erotica category in the first point
0:15 I don’t like how the camera is coming closer and closer and closer
Me too. It's embarrassing.
I’m not “upset” about this but to be honest I would rather they keep the game faithful and not change random details for no reason
The re-writse completely understandable if you have an issue with but BREATS. BREATS!!!??? WTF IS WRONG WITH SOME PEOPLE!?!?!?!? If you want a s**y character just take bayonetta.
Or go to Hooters
@Tippsters-10 YEAH!!!!😄
@@Tippsters-10femboy hooters
bro not only censored sexy, but also spelt breasts wrong not just once, but twice. "BREATS. BREATS!!!???"
also, no, her model change is just one of the many complaints of the censorship of Generations' rewrite. please use your head next time.
It's becoming annoying that they keep changing Rouge tbh cause its like they are changing their history, but i understand the arguement too...
Rouge has had her appearance change multiple times since sonic heroes 21 years ago this isnt a big deal.
The issue here is that the censorship is unnecessary. The reason why her outfit exposes her back is so that it doesn’t get in the way of her wings. Now it doesn’t make any sense, and looks bad. Also, if you become complacent with small amounts of censorship, it WILL get worse. They censored all the slapstick humor. Next they’ll likely make it so you never directly fight an
Eggman piloted machine ever again. After that, they’ll possibly even remove death animations outright, or even stop adding spikes. Next thing you know, Sonic will have a rounded, PG acceptable design with overalls, and he won’t even give the slightest bit of attitude to anyone, saying things like. “Gee, Eggman! You sure caused trouble! Now, let’s work out something we can both agree on, buddy!” Don’t get complacent with censorship when there’s no reason to censor it in the first place, unless you want Sonic to be a preschool icon. Remember, all the slapstick jokes are gone. It’s not just Rouge’s design.
Maybe it's like a kid Goku kind of situation where there are holes in order to make space for the extra appendage/appendages?
@@MetalHopper I suppose, however there's no obvious holes, making the design look like a lazy texture, or material edit. I could probably do the same thing with the OG model by simply using Blender to replace polygons that had skin material to now use the material of her outfit, then simply pull up the verticies of the heart shaped part of her outfit over the cleavage. Point being, this is a lazy, unnecessary edit. She was fine in SA2, they changed her design slightly in Heroes to a full body latex suit, then back to her SA2 outfit, but censored. She's already censored.
You gooners, you want a sexy character? Go for Bayonetta!
you literally have Sally Acorn for a profile picture and you want to bitch about gooning? grow up.
the people complaining about this are the same people that still call current amy annoying, they are such degenerates its insane. why do you care how a fictional bat in a fictional world puts on her fictional clothes for a game MOSTLY made for kids 😪😪
The reason why people think this is a big deal because they have a crush on rouge
If people are upset, just let them. As long as a "remaster" or "rerelease" makes a percieved unnecessary change people will get upset. My uncle got upset because he watched a streaming (Disney+?) video of his favorite 1990s jokes but it was redubbed to change slightly offensive jokes.
I wasn't bothered, but he was. With other remasters (SA2 Battle) I dont even understand what change occured, yet people are upset. So when it comes down to it; don't "fix what isn't broken."
As others said if a Sega line of Sonic Heroes is redubbed, or if a pixel is changed I would be upset. But thats only how I feel about Sonic Heroes. Not Generations.
Either way, people upset at these things just need a venting place to vent with each other. I dont care about Generations, but. But I get upset at minor localization changes in art and dialogue that happens in anime, even if others find it minor. So... its a hot topic. Death by 1000 cuts.
This video pointed this out to me, and boy, there's certainly degens that care too hard
I don't have any problems about censoring rouge but the rewrite plot, especially rewriting the dialogue lines and not changing the animation in the cutscenes is what really bugs me. Especially with knuckles and classic sonic interactions
Honestly, makes the game feel ironically, a bit more realistic people like to say it’s more so like a little nod to the old games, but no, these would be legitimate things. All the characters would have questions about.
Like how they’re traveling through a time with the time stones that’s not just a nod. That’s a legitimate question. How are they doing that?
And also thank God, they actually referenced the names of the islands. It’s a small thing, but it goes a long way to whirl building in a game that was not really praised for having world building.
I don't have problem about censoring. But I have problem about dialogue from Sonic Generations Remake.
Bro people are just GOONERSSS, they get mad over pixels.
someone lacks critical thinking and reasoning skills.
@ so real
I have a question for sonic fans…
WWWHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
I am a sonic fan and I REALLY don't understand why they are so mad about it it's just a bat
Oh, simple it's the classic, you give these people an inch they take a mile. I'll be honest I barely notice the different at first. But I believe that any form of censorship is bad. I don't like how they change Amy either.
If this was a new game and not a DLC type of game then I wouldn't have a problem with it especially if they gave these character a new design.
@@BlazeGamerZX if you're against censorship then you know exactly why people are upset. that first part is completely unnecessary.
@@Samorutt1324 the point is that they changed her in specifically this game and nowhere else. it's such a small, insignificant change that it makes you ask: why? this idea that this criticism is invalid because it deals with cartoon bat boobs is just braindead and prevents actual criticism from ever being taken seriously.
@@biohazardbin Just gotta let people know where my stance is.
Anyone that doesn't like that a character in a family friendly franchise gets less sexualized needs help 😭😭
this series is not family friendly, that's a Western perception of the series. may I remind you of Shadow 2005 for the PS2? not just that, but the Japanese scripts still have words such as damn and hell.
@biohazardbin yeah but they started to become more family friendly nowadays
cuz they gooners 😹
Real
Real women have worse clothe
So it's quite hypocrite to support wearing what u want but acting then it's weird when game characters do that
If u have that problem with fictional character more then real one it's u the gooner one
me when I never developed critical thought and don't understand what the problem is so I have to call people names because I take information at face-value instead of thinking for longer than a nanosecond on an issue:
Do they not realize this franchise main target audience is kids?
Woman in real life wearing more then this all the time so we need to let them not see Woman then or what
The og design was normal
Actually, the target audience is EVERY single person in the world. And that includes kids.
I wouldn't have even know about this if people weren't complaining what sane human looks at fictional people in a children's game
that's not the issue, the issue is that it's such a small change that it makes no sense on why they would change it. this goes for the whole rewrite of Generations, not just the model change.
please stop this braindead thought of "well they said something about her boobs, therefore they are a gooner!" you must lack critical thought and cannot understand actual criticism.
If its not an big deal, then why change it? Im not upset but why did they do it?
Modders will bring it back anyways.
"If it's not a big deal to make a character less sexual in a children's video game, why change it? I'm not upset but why did they make a children's character less sexual?"
Almost like putting overly sexual characters in *a children's game* is a bad idea. Can you really not figure that out? Are you alright sir? If you really need the bat to be attractive to the average woman enjoyer just type her name into google, it's probably that easy. Hell, the old version of the game still has it without the changes! Go play that! You don't need to buy a new Shadow game with a generations remake for it.
Being attracted to cartoon animals in a children's series? Sounds pretty bad.
Ask America.
SEGA doesn't make games that children can't play anymore anyway.
@@CR1MSONACEI'm not attracted to it. now that I think about it, its mainly fine and makes rouge *slightly* less sexual. Rouge isn't an overly sexual character in sonic games. Still isn't an change that's needed but most kids wouldn't even care about it so I'll let it pass.
@@T3ddybear99 Rouge is supposed to be a femme fatale. The whole idea of that personality trait is to be an attractive and seductive woman.
@@CR1MSONACE This idea that Sonic is a kid's series is such Western slop I can't believe you genuinely believe this.
No, Sonic is specifically a Teen series. You wouldn't understand this, probably because you either ARE a kid yourself or you genuinely lack reasoning skills and don't know anything about the series' history. Rouge is not even the first femme fatale the Sonic series has purposed: scrapped characters like Madonna and Tiara Boobowski (may I remind you this character literally has BOOB in her last name) were, at the very least, purposed as love interests for Sonic himself and, while they are scrapped characters, are shown to be either voluptuous or have an emphasis on their chest. Madonna especially was in a strapless dress and had an exposed cleavage. A character named Breezie was also introduced in the Looney Tunes-styled cartoon called the Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog, who also wears a strapless dress with exposed cleavage and tries to seduce Sonic in the whole episode she was in. *This is a cartoon explictly made for children.*
If, and this is a big if, this series was made for kids, then it would reflect that. Mario is a kid's series and it reflects that. Sonic has always tried its best to lean more into edginess and be for young teens at the very least. After all, this series was made at a rival to Mario, who was DEFINITELY made for children. The West has always been the one to think this series is only specifically made for children. But even then, we're talking about a series that was able to show SatAM to children, which is significantly darker than both Adventures and Underground in terms of cartoons. Sonic X's Metarex Saga was also fairly dark, even with the censorships 4Kids made.
Also, to your idea that you can't be attracted to a cartoon animal, have you literally NEVER had a childhood crush? You don't think, out of all the possible forms of entertainment out there, you never found one, not ONE, person attractive as a kid? For many people, Rouge was their first. For other's, it was Amy, Blaze, Tikal, Wave, Sally Acorn, Bunnie Rabbot, and many others that came out of the franchise. This idea that you can't have a crush on a cartoon is pretty absurd, as even as far back as the early days of cartoons, the 30's and 40's, people still made voluptuous cartoon characters! It's made with the intent to be attractive! Are you not going to call Sega gooners too? They designed the character, they gave her jiggle physics! It would sound pretty hypocritical to me if you didn't.
I agree with everything this video says.
"Then why change it if it's not a big dea-" SHUT UP, BRO!! JUST PLAY THE FNNUY BLU MASCOT GAME AND MOVE ON! Life is too short for these types of online arguments!
JUST SKIP THE FUCKING CUTSCENES!
For Saga: I don't know why they feel the need to make censors changes that are so small. Especially for remasters, if you were fine with the old look before why are you now sensitive to show what you ok'ed in the past.
For the fans: Why are you so upset over a change this small and how did you notice it? It's no wonder people say to go watch Corn to people. Out of everything the game has to offer Gex appeal isn't even a huge part of the game and Rouge is barely even in it. Is the Gex appeal the thing you liked most about the outfit? As long as the outfit isn't super noticeably censored then it shouldn't be such a big deal.
you... just answered your last question with your first question. I genuinely can't understand why you would make this comment. also, stop just calling people gooners because they are criticizing a model change that just so happens to be about her boobs and back. that's clearly not what the criticism is and this strawman lacks critical thought.
@biohazardbin That's why I made the comment targeting both sides instead of just one on Gex appeal. One side is being shy and sensitive to show what they've shown before and the other is having a meltdown over something most people would have to look for to notice.
If the meltdown isn't over Gex appeal censors then why are they getting so upset in your opinion? Character designers being too scared to show revealing outfits?Nerfing body type sizes when some of it is realistic to real life sizes? Covering up women so that the women aren't for the male gaze?
If its not big deal why change it then
for the last fucking time, if it's not a big deal, why do you care if they change it?
@@TheRealSpartanCowboy Then make Rouge a Nun or wear a hijab. It the safest way to not oversexualize character since it isn't a big deal right? Cover her from head to toe do the same for Amy no big deal just minor changes.
@@TheRealSpartanCowboy Since it not a big deal. Let's change all female character to non existing. Make them a nun or wear a hijab, gotta do those diverse and inclusive practices. Let's make Amy a lesbian and Rouge aroace. Not a big deal right?
@@TheRealSpartanCowboy Since it isn't a big deal let's just changes everything.
Let's make Amy a lesbian. Rouge can be an Aroace. Sonic can be Gay.
The problem with your video is that you aren't open-minded enough to understand the bigger picture. We are in 2024 and there is a constant battle against censorship.
Japanese game creators are complaining and blaming the epidemic on the West. If you look into the reasoning behind the censorship its purely DEI and,politically related. 2024 is a time when people on the street dont even like censorship (not specifically videogames)
Even if censorship was not the issue, the changes made should not be made. Amy's fanbase liked her crazy Sonic obsessed character but thats no longer allowed. Not for "writing" purpose but it goes against current DEI regulations.
*But the main reason people are upset is because the changes are permanent. As long as Sega's is a client of said DEI agency*
10/10 rage bait
@@clapitzme It's not rage bait, you idiot!
True Rouge gooner fr
He even has Knuckles in his username😭 😭
@@clapitzmeCan it, corporate shill. You're literally defending 4kids edits at this point.
@@sparktwochristopher7240 that makes zero sense I’m not gonna lie, how is me pointing out this guy is a gooner defending 4kids
showing back and stuff and the character is called : Oversexualized kid game character
toning these down and its called: censoring and not following the original
you see...both are right in their own respective ways, but they contradict each other
The people that complain about something being oversexualize are the same people that think all woman's need to wear a hijab or Nun clothing.
@@BlazeGamerZXSo? Why do you care? What's it to you? Why don't you just play the damn videogame?
@@Skoufidios As the saying goes. Give them an Inch they take a mile. I care because I don't wanna give them an inch. People like you are the reason we have game like Veilguard among other games.
@BlazeGamerZX Or maybe I'm focused on playing instead of counting polygons~ Rocket science, I know.
@@Skoufidios Meh, I'm sure you are. That why you're watching this video.
I though you were going to talk about the rewrite
Why was that area of Rouges body exposed in the first place when she first appeared in SA2 and beyond? Sonic is a KIDS franchise!
2001 was a different time
@TheRealSpartanCowboy But still, why would they do that? They know kids would enjoy the game. Why appease adults at the same time?
@@darthvader473simple, in japan that is completely normal
@@TheRealSpartanCowboy The early 2000s in general. Even in Paper Mario, they couldn't avoid it. *PAPER. MARIO.*
Well, at least Flurrie is literally the worst partner.
I’m also going to say this 2017 they had a collaboration with Hooters… it was for the release of sonic forces
bro is the lecturer i could not be like bro i can't speak like you
evil leafy
The issue people have is an ongoing slipperly slope. Particularly with Western games every time a Japanese game is remastered. Its always a minor cover up in a remaster thats always "not so serious." But if its not serious why do this with every remaster.
My personal issue with the Sonic Generations remaster that its in no way better than the original version. Its a lazyRemaster, and the only changes worth mentioning account to toning down. Its a death by 1000 cuts issue.
It lets the team create a new Shadow game without having to sell it as one, that's why.
Oh, the reason they cover these things up is because having a character like Rouge in a children's series... It should already be obvious.
For a bonus point though, you can have the answer of "it makes people attracted to the children's characters." Which is particularly concerning when most of those characters are teenagers. And the others are old men.
@@CR1MSONACE, the characters in the Sonic series or in any stylized media in general are fictional. The morality of one being attracted to the characters within these works of fiction shouldn't be much of an issue.
@@PKSuperStar256 When they're children, absolutely. I don't know how old Rouge is because *I'm not looking that up,* but there's still consent issues and showing suggestive characters to children, even if she was "legally" allowed to.
@@CR1MSONACE, the E10+ rating allows suggestive content. The equivalent PG also does.
Just look at Coraline and "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?". Both of these are PG and have suggestive content, yet kids are allowed to see these movies.
Besides, there is nothing truly explicit and it's not truly fanservice to the point of something T-rated/PG-13 or beyond.
Its a slippery slope
okay, if it's not that big of a deal, why did they change it? I'm totally fine if the new rouge design is used in a new game, the problem here is that they changed her design in old game, and the only reason for this is due to cencorship. That's what really upset people, it's just straight up saying that big booby women are "inappropriate". To me, that's body shaming.
It’s a kid game Sega is doing they job because it’s a kid game and the game is Pg+
Oh bloody hell... 💀💀(This is legit stupid bro, WHY get so MAD over THIS?! I can understand, it wasn't really needed. BUT PLEASE STOP BEING SO THIRSTY FOR BAT SKIN LMAO-)
I agree.
I find it quite hilarious
I'm just going to say this if "it's not a big deal" then why did SEGA went out of their way to make this changes?
If the changes are so tiny and unnoticeable why prioritize making those changes insetad of giving us a proper remaster?
The shadow side is cool I just have some nitpicks about it, but the sonic side It's like they almost didn't care about it, the only new thing they added was the chaos in the levels. I found new bugs that were not in the original before the first boss, they could only give us 60 fps for a 13 year old game while modders were able to uncap it in the original, there is no longer a life system but you are still able to buy lifes in the shop, these were just somethings I found while playing myself. One would think they would look at these thinks to try and give the best experience to newer players BUT INSTEAD they were more worried in changing dialongs in the voice-acted cutscenes, other minor changes in certain cutscenes and censoring the bat (and honestly if they wanted to censor her they just needed to change her normal costume for the Sonic Heros's one and everyone wouldn's even know it was censorship intentionally or not).
And personaly what infuriates me the most is the fact they went out of their way to make this small changes instead of changing the final super sonic boss fight known to be one of THE WORST final boss fights in the franchise.
These thing just show where SEGA had it's priorities.
Anime manga artists overreact to "minor" edits in western localization of the manga. I dont even "get" the Sonic Adventure DX complaints nor Halo Anniversary changes that upset people.
But the main point remains: if the main change was so minor, why bother changing it in the first place?
Me personally I have to agree with spartan. THIS IS A KIDS GAME BRO. WHY DO PEOPLE WANNA GO TO A KIDS GAME TO SEE A GODDAMN BAT WITH SEXUAL FEATURES. LIKE THATS JUST WEIRD AS HELL
Hey, buddy. Let me remind you that this series is older than you are. Also understand that it's not a kid's game or a kid's series. It's heavily leaned toward teens and adults and that's why the majority of that demographic play them to this day.
Also also, this is such a one-dimensional way of thinking that it glosses over the actual issue of the "remaster." If you were older than 12, you'd probably understand.
Give it a couple years, buddy.
@ it is a kids game what are you on
@@biohazardbin Here's two ways to remove the game's cenorship.
1. Just play the Japanese version for fuck's sake.
2. Just skip the goddamn cutscenes.
You just don’t understand
Imo no it can be a slippery slope if they keep making it "safe for kids"(aka nobody mature enough to grow up) it will be another woke disaster
I have no issue with moving the heart plate up a bit but thw wings clipping though tje outfit is jarring of tje character design I'm an artist, also the kids game aurgument is a dumb aurgument because nothing was wrong with the character design since SA2 kids were fine. Making a rant about Rouge's chest is just as weird.
You says you're"normal" but no one is "normal" these days so opinion can be made about botched character designs and personalities.
Critisisms can be made.
Ahh yess, slight chances to make her less sexual, and peps losing their mind, i guess i can get it, but the target of this game is for everyone, including kids, so covering her up slightly isn’t really a big deal lol. That fact that you noticed might say smth bout you:/
Not every Sonic game player is an adult that beats their stick to Rouge.
if it aint a big deal then why change it in the first place.
(btw i feel like the cutscenes shoulda been left alone in general, not just Rouge)
if it ain't a big deal then why do you care if they change it?
@ idc if they do, it’s just a preference. i still thoroughly enjoy the game.
Honestly, the cut scenes needed a better rewrite than what they got in the remake because it still uses the same animation!!!!
It's not SEGA's fault for the change.
Blame the localizers for it.
nerfed the cake
FINALLY someone who doesn’t cry over censorship!👏
In 2024 censorship angers many people. Yes, not everyone is upset by censorship. But the political state of the world (meaning the West) means you get negative reactions.
The censorship of Rouge is the result of a political issue and this leaked into 2024 elections. So yes, its a big deal. The fight for censorship and the fight against censorship.
Outside the internet it doesnt specifically involve games but the conflict is the same
Well until it’s time to paint America as a bully, then we’ll complain about America being entitled and muddying the original Japanese work and forcing it’s ideas
And also, isn't censoring a good thing?
I kinda like it better censored not gonna lie
Same tbh
Yeah, wtf is wrong with the Sonic community
I agree with you
To behonest with you the whole censoreship to me seems unneccesarily because for one majority of kids don't really pay to my attention to detail in games or in characters that much they just play the games its only when they get older and hit puberty they would but sonic not is that explicitly that it needs censorship. I grew up playing games that were explicit with violence and gore and some characters who were too sexually explicit. But as a kid do you think that you care about those things? no you wouldn't because you be too busy enjoying the game to be pay any attention to those things anyway and sure i played games that were for kids like sonic, mario, crash bandicoot, mega man etc. But at the time i was interested in hack n slack games that any parent who are too sensitive don't want their kid to play. Suprise call of duty hasn't gotten hit with censorship yet like remove the blood or making the games shoot nerf bullets.
“Surprised cod hasn’t got censored” (I know those aren’t the exact words you said but close enough)
Cod isn’t a kids game, that’s why
These peops need genuine HELP
I knew this would happen hahaha
Nerfing rouge to get good sonic games is a worthy sacrifice if you ask me 🚶➡️
A small price to pay for peak
Me when literally someone complains about Rouge's design in SxSG: ua-cam.com/video/vy3vMD-CgNY/v-deo.html
Whoa! That's interesting, but I sure don't care!
If people really think that they covered up rouge that much then I bet they will be pissed when they learn about rouge in sonic prime
I mean, I couldn't care how much they cover up her *dual features.* But... Yeah... Her wings going over her clothing still makes no sense. As a (somewhat) perfectionist, it *kinda'* bothers me.
We will always have hentai, so
It doesn't matter now what happens I will never give up the fight
There is no way I will run away from all of my frights
Long as the voice inside me says go, I will always keep on running
There is no way to stop me from going to the very top
It doesn't matter who is wrong or who is right
I actually didn't notice it either...and i don't care that much...
But it's a little funny for me...because i don't think the standarts of kids games changed at all between 2017 and 2024, because in Forces...she was not censored...heck even the Murder of Sonic from like a year ago didn't censor her, but Sonic X Shadow Generations of all things just...decided to change it suddently
I'm not complaining, but it's little weird that they censored her now, when they could have do it a year ago...
Please use actual punctuation and stop using ellipses to end your sentences.
People being upset about Amy changes is what's really annoying. So you guys whine about her character for twenty years, rightfully so, she was pretty annoying, everyone and their mother disliked Amy rose back then, but now when they try to make her character more likeable, and by proxy, her and Sonic's interactions, people are upset over it? Calling it "woke"? Really?
You guys are such perverts when it comes to rogue the bat. 🤦♂️
“It’s not a big deal” then why change it in the first place? You’re a DISGRACE to the Sonic fanbase… I’m dropping a DISLIKE!!! 💀🤦♀️
THIS GAME IS NOT MADE FOR JUST ADULTS, BRO! NO SONIC GAME IS MADE FOR JUST TEENAGERS AND ADULTS! DX