@@matejblaha4659Very good point. I'm not an athletic cyclist. I just wear normal clothes, no lycra. On a 20km commute I average 20kmh. Roadies I know think this is dreadfully slow but I'm on a slower heavier bike and not pushing for performance carrying a lot of stuff usually wearing ordinary clothes. I test rode my first e-bike just two weeks ago and it was very informative even though it was just for a short ride. Even on eco or minimum assist it was noticeably easier to take a hill. And I'm a big man. 2 metres tall and about 120kg. Not fat, just appropriate for my height. And compared to my own bike weighted down with racks and bags I reached a nice cruising speed much easier. But then I suddenly felt as if there was a weight holding me back. I'd hit 25kmh and the motor had cut out assisting. On my own bike averaging 20kmh I would very often easily be doing a good deal over 25, 30kmh and higher on the flats and declines. But it's the hills and headwinds that really slow me down, sap my energy and make me sweat. Whichever e-bike I will eventually get is going to need to have a good selection of derailleur gears so that I can disengage the motor and pedal faster than just 25kmh under my own steam without any resistance when it's suitable. It's a shame that an ordinary pedal assist e-bike in Europe doesn't go faster than 25kmh OR allow stronger than 250wh motors for additional help on steep hills but still, the help I will get on the hills will certainly improve my ride and hopefully bring my average up to 25kmh or higher with less overall effort.
As someone who commutes on a bike, the main issue, even with safe parking, is not having somewhere to shower and hang clothes. E-Bikes could help with that and our 30c°+ summer days
Even more than you think the avg speed for bicycles in netherlands is 17km/h and on ebikes about 24km/h with the same or less effort from the driver but the wind resistance at these 2 speeds is a large difference in other words a ebike at 25km/h a hour is a great way to cool down in a solid breeze compared to 17km/h given the same (or less) human input.
I own an ebike and it is my primary form of transpiration for everything except for getting groceries... I absolutely love it. I ride it to and from work, if I need to go somewhere, but mostly I ride it just to ride it. It doubles up as exercise and just a general stress relief. For me personally I prefer the ebike because it gives me a lot more reassurance in term of if I go too far I always have that PAS or throttle, but also if there are ever headwinds or hills the electric motor almost deletes those obstacles (with hills it's within reason).
For beginners I will say this: Get an E-bike if you lack the muscle to cycle up hill, low gears will help on a manual but it will slow you down compared to an E-bike. I have thighs for days and cycling up hill does not affect me as much as other people, if you commit to cycling uphill on a manual just be sure to fuel yourself properly and you will get stronger legs. Also: strong winds can be more difficult to cycle through than any hill. Puncture resistance will also be a key feature to look for in a commuting bike, get slime sealent or puncture resistant tyres from schwalbe. Also take to your boss about cycle to work or cycle scheme. (check with your chosen retailer what cycle plan they accept as some retailers only use cycle to work etc.)
Hi, a few questions: 1) I already have large thighs. Don’t want them to get to big. It’s an odd consideration but mostly worried about crotch blowouts on pants (in regular use). 2. At 1K price point should I go for e-bike or regular? I’m new and it’s for pleasure and workout. It’s NOT for commuting or racing or mountains. It’s to be used in suburban roads and city trails. 3) any word on Aventon and other targeted online cheap e-bikes for $1K? I’m getting relentlessly targeted on the algorithm.
I use a Specialized Turbo Vado 5.0 with belt drive, mudguards and panniers for a 16 mile each way commute and it’s fab. For me that represents a free 2 hours zone 2 training each day with all the fun and fresh air of a ride included. I have rode it on a road bike occasionally but a 15 degree hill in the middle of the journey means I wouldn’t do that regularly. Instead I save the road bike for the weekends while the e-bike saves my legs during the week so I have plenty energy left for some speedier rides 😃 I am very fortunate that my employer is keen to promote cycling so provides showers and indoor bike storage and lockers too 👍
ebikes are perfect as you stated it smooths out your rides and you can decide if you are really in a bad mood to let the bike do more. Also (live in the netherlands) people think hills are not a issue for us but don't get how much wind we can get and how that compares. One thing you missed is how 'green' it is a ebike very good upgrade funny enough compared to a normal bike since our body is not that efficient and the ebike setup is about 80% vs 25% for us. The combo of getting more speed, not getting sweaty but getting your daily movement is in best the combo of human+ebike is also in many ways the most green option in the long run. I ride about 50km/day.
I think the same about e-bikes, they might be future of transport for most people, I have used the Hire ones in my city and compared to by usual mountain bike commuter /shopper/tourer which I love using, so much more of the city is quickly accessible, no slowing and chuffing slowey up hills, although limited in speed, those crucial traffic light sprints are easy and uphill lane swapping, signaling moving and being traffic aware simultaneously are so much safer.
I started commuting by e-bike this year. Orbea vibe helps me crush a 38km each way commute within 1 hr and 50 mins. Still not fit enough to do both ways in the one day but im getting there.
The Washington DC metro area has been building more bike paths in recent years, especially since COVID started in 2020, and is pretty flat. And my organization could afford to build bike cages and locker rooms with showers for employees who want to ride or run to work. So a road bike and rucksack or touring bike with panniers worked great for me. I was lucky that my bike path ran along the Potomac river, past the Lincoln Memorial and Vietnam War Memorial, so it was a beautiful commute (just 7 miles each direction). I just retired, and moved into the city, and find I can get around much quicker on my bike than in a car or on public transit.
E-bikes are awesome for commuting. Especially if there are hills in the way. If have a Cannondale City bike with the 85nm Bosch CX motor. Just Crushes hills. So much fun. A bit heavy & slow on the flat but great for rapid stop&starts. Getting above 18mph on the flat is not easy after the assisted 15.5mph. Downhills as fast as any bike. The biggest problem with an E-bike is getting it Stolen. I lock with 2 Kryptonite Mini 7 D locks, a front disk lock and the built in Abus rear wheel lock. Even then in London I keep an eye on it or leave it only for 10 minutes max.
There's something about achieving feats of speed through your own efforts that makes it so very rewarding. Maybe someday when I get old, I'll use an ebike, but I'm perfectly happy with a classic manual bike.
There's something really worrying about someone mentioning "achieving feats of speed" in context of daily commute. I mean: looking at people in cars surrounding me every day, I also get the notion of them being very focused on "achieving feats of speed" during their drive to work or shops. And it's really hard to be enthusiastic about this - especially when you're an unprotected road user.
I would go for the e bike since you can get to work faster without sweating up a storm and go places cars can't. It's not as good at running over people as a car but sometimes you have to compromise.
I have my dream bike. 2018 Trek Super Commuter +7 . An ebike will negate hills and wind, my two main enemies. You also "work" less while commuting which equal less sweat. Not fun when you are heading to work.
I'm not an athletic cyclist. I just wear normal clothes, no lycra. On a 20km commute I average 20kmh. Roadies I know think this is dreadfully slow but I'm on a slower heavier bike and not pushing for performance carrying a lot of stuff usually wearing ordinary clothes. I test rode my first e-bike just two weeks ago and it was very informative even though it was just for a short ride. Even on eco or minimum assist it was noticeably easier to take a hill. And I'm a big man. 2 metres tall and about 120kg. Not fat, just appropriate for my height. And compared to my own bike weighted down with racks and bags I reached a nice cruising speed much easier. But then I suddenly felt as if there was a weight holding me back. I'd hit 25kmh and the motor had cut out assisting. On my own bike averaging 20kmh I would very often easily be doing a good deal over 25, 30kmh and higher on the flats and declines. But it's the hills and headwinds that really slow me down, sap my energy and make me sweat. Whichever e-bike I will eventually get is going to need to have a good selection of derailleur gears so that I can disengage the motor and pedal faster than just 25kmh under my own steam without any resistance when it's suitable. It's a shame that an ordinary pedal assist e-bike in Europe doesn't go faster than 25kmh OR allow stronger than 250wh motors for additional help on steep hills but still, the help I will get on the hills will certainly improve my ride and hopefully bring my average up to 25kmh or higher with less overall effort.
You titled the video as if this would be a comparison between e-bikes and manual bikes, but then didn't perform any extensive tests to demonstrate the difference. You rode between two points on both types of bikes, and even wore a heart monitor to see your physical response, but didn't provide any data to the viewer about the differences between the two rides. This was more of a promotion of e-bikes than an actual, objective look, which is fine (I like e-bikes myself) but that's not what this video was billed to be.
Cold rainy days are just crappy either way. Especially not in lycra. Sitting in wet clothes for a day is grim. Plus, I don’t always just sit in an office all day, I have to go to see clients, so couldn’t use a bike everyday sadly.
Of course if you could afford $3000 plus for a bike; definitely you should get an ebike. Otherwise, short commute you could just use a regular bike or a cheap car which has more room for people and groceries.
Hey everyone, just came across this new project for the Freebeat Morph 2-in-1 e-Bike and I have to say, I'm intrigued! The fact that it can be charged indoors is a game-changer for me. I love the idea of combining indoor fitness with outdoor exploration. The brushless 750W motor and impressive 80Nm torque definitely caught my attention too. And with 80mm front suspension and puncture-resistant fat tires, it seems like a smooth ride is guaranteed in any terrain. Plus, the Smart Saddle Detection+ feature and the ability to convert calories into CO2-free miles? That's impressive! Definitely considering supporting this project. Anyone else excited about the Freebeat Morph e-bike?
I want to share my experience using e-bike. "Legal" one, with a motor 250 W. I don't know, what those "legal", actually useless bikes are produced for, because 250 W is a very, very weak motor, to speak about it's "assistance" is just ridiculous. Some assistance only on flat road, forget it when moving uphills, you'll carry yourself plus 60-70 pounds of this bloody piece of metal. For about thousand pounds or so you'll get yourself headaches and pain in ass, sorry my French. After returning my e-bike to shop I felt myself like awaken from the worst nightmare. Honestly, I don't know who are those people giving these bikes 5 stars. Living in flat countries, probably.
What e-bike did you try? Torque and Newtonmetre (Nm) output varies dramatically between manufacturers. There are now several electric motor manufacturers making 250 watt motors with 85-95 Nm output. I have watched reviews of American e-bikes with 1000-1500 watt motors "boasting" of just having that same level of Nm output. Seriously, tell me what bike you tried out so I can avoid it. Unless you are just making stuff up!
Ridiculous, you can get a decent second hand bike for £50 upwards depending on your pocket and eeds , tastes etc. And probably £20 to £50 With a bike tech ,setting the bike up, look localy or try Halfords for example it will run like a good un , cycling is still cheap , way cheaper than that.
I have 6 bikes in my garage and none are e-bikes. Don't plan on riding or getting one anytime soon. If I need assistance getting around, that's what my car is for.
I would have thought it should be the other way around. Normal bike for short local commutes. E-bike for longer harder commutes or hills, headwinds and bad weather so you don't arrive tired and sweating.
Electric bike is great if you're a pensioner or if you're injured. Otherwise i see no reason why anyone should use an electric bike to commute. Few minutes you'll save with an e-bike are not worth getting fat for. Pedal your bike.
Weirdly not everyone is interested in beasting themselves up hills. Normal people just want to get from A to B without needing a shower at the other end.
I don't have an electric bike, but I commute from time to time with my road bike. My daily commute to work is 60 km with two hills with sections at 16%. I can't do a full week, it's way too hard.
@@filip000 try riding an electric bike, then you'll see. If you want to get a sweat on with an ebike you can but you most definitely don't have to. The bikes that this article is talking about are pedal assist. Again, go ride one and then you'll see .. they are not motorbikes.
Ever commuted by e-bike before? Let us know your dream commuter bike in the comments 👇
Did you compare the time each of the routs took on e-bike and regular? I am wondering how much time would it save me if I had an ebike
@@matejblaha4659Very good point. I'm not an athletic cyclist. I just wear normal clothes, no lycra. On a 20km commute I average 20kmh. Roadies I know think this is dreadfully slow but I'm on a slower heavier bike and not pushing for performance carrying a lot of stuff usually wearing ordinary clothes.
I test rode my first e-bike just two weeks ago and it was very informative even though it was just for a short ride.
Even on eco or minimum assist it was noticeably easier to take a hill. And I'm a big man. 2 metres tall and about 120kg. Not fat, just appropriate for my height.
And compared to my own bike weighted down with racks and bags I reached a nice cruising speed much easier.
But then I suddenly felt as if there was a weight holding me back.
I'd hit 25kmh and the motor had cut out assisting.
On my own bike averaging 20kmh I would very often easily be doing a good deal over 25, 30kmh and higher on the flats and declines. But it's the hills and headwinds that really slow me down, sap my energy and make me sweat. Whichever e-bike I will eventually get is going to need to have a good selection of derailleur gears so that I can disengage the motor and pedal faster than just 25kmh under my own steam without any resistance when it's suitable.
It's a shame that an ordinary pedal assist e-bike in Europe doesn't go faster than 25kmh OR allow stronger than 250wh motors for additional help on steep hills but still, the help I will get on the hills will certainly improve my ride and hopefully bring my average up to 25kmh or higher with less overall effort.
As someone who commutes on a bike, the main issue, even with safe parking, is not having somewhere to shower and hang clothes. E-Bikes could help with that and our 30c°+ summer days
Even more than you think the avg speed for bicycles in netherlands is 17km/h and on ebikes about 24km/h with the same or less effort from the driver but the wind resistance at these 2 speeds is a large difference in other words a ebike at 25km/h a hour is a great way to cool down in a solid breeze compared to 17km/h given the same (or less) human input.
I own an ebike and it is my primary form of transpiration for everything except for getting groceries... I absolutely love it. I ride it to and from work, if I need to go somewhere, but mostly I ride it just to ride it. It doubles up as exercise and just a general stress relief.
For me personally I prefer the ebike because it gives me a lot more reassurance in term of if I go too far I always have that PAS or throttle, but also if there are ever headwinds or hills the electric motor almost deletes those obstacles (with hills it's within reason).
For beginners I will say this:
Get an E-bike if you lack the muscle to cycle up hill, low gears will help on a manual but it will slow you down compared to an E-bike.
I have thighs for days and cycling up hill does not affect me as much as other people, if you commit to cycling uphill on a manual just be sure to fuel yourself properly and you will get stronger legs.
Also: strong winds can be more difficult to cycle through than any hill.
Puncture resistance will also be a key feature to look for in a commuting bike, get slime sealent or puncture resistant tyres from schwalbe.
Also take to your boss about cycle to work or cycle scheme. (check with your chosen retailer what cycle plan they accept as some retailers only use cycle to work etc.)
Hi, a few questions: 1) I already have large thighs. Don’t want them to get to big. It’s an odd consideration but mostly worried about crotch blowouts on pants (in regular use). 2. At 1K price point should I go for e-bike or regular? I’m new and it’s for pleasure and workout. It’s NOT for commuting or racing or mountains. It’s to be used in suburban roads and city trails. 3) any word on Aventon and other targeted online cheap e-bikes for $1K? I’m getting relentlessly targeted on the algorithm.
I use a Specialized Turbo Vado 5.0 with belt drive, mudguards and panniers for a 16 mile each way commute and it’s fab. For me that represents a free 2 hours zone 2 training each day with all the fun and fresh air of a ride included. I have rode it on a road bike occasionally but a 15 degree hill in the middle of the journey means I wouldn’t do that regularly. Instead I save the road bike for the weekends while the e-bike saves my legs during the week so I have plenty energy left for some speedier rides 😃 I am very fortunate that my employer is keen to promote cycling so provides showers and indoor bike storage and lockers too 👍
ebikes are perfect as you stated it smooths out your rides and you can decide if you are really in a bad mood to let the bike do more. Also (live in the netherlands) people think hills are not a issue for us but don't get how much wind we can get and how that compares. One thing you missed is how 'green' it is a ebike very good upgrade funny enough compared to a normal bike since our body is not that efficient and the ebike setup is about 80% vs 25% for us. The combo of getting more speed, not getting sweaty but getting your daily movement is in best the combo of human+ebike is also in many ways the most green option in the long run. I ride about 50km/day.
Done it both ways....I save around 15 minutes on my E-Bike and since my job is physical i find the ride home doesn't seem as daunting on the E-bike.
Stairs at home, stairs at work. I'm not hauling a 45lb bike up/down sketchy wet stairwells, or leaving a $2k+ bike outside.
Yep completely valid points and hopefully over time they'll be addressed
The problem with ebikes is that if u live 3 stories, lifting a 45-pound bike is tough
I think the same about e-bikes, they might be future of transport for most people, I have used the Hire ones in my city and compared to by usual mountain bike commuter /shopper/tourer which I love using, so much more of the city is quickly accessible, no slowing and chuffing slowey up hills, although limited in speed, those crucial traffic light sprints are easy and uphill lane swapping, signaling moving and being traffic aware simultaneously are so much safer.
I started commuting by e-bike this year. Orbea vibe helps me crush a 38km each way commute within 1 hr and 50 mins. Still not fit enough to do both ways in the one day but im getting there.
The Washington DC metro area has been building more bike paths in recent years, especially since COVID started in 2020, and is pretty flat. And my organization could afford to build bike cages and locker rooms with showers for employees who want to ride or run to work. So a road bike and rucksack or touring bike with panniers worked great for me. I was lucky that my bike path ran along the Potomac river, past the Lincoln Memorial and Vietnam War Memorial, so it was a beautiful commute (just 7 miles each direction). I just retired, and moved into the city, and find I can get around much quicker on my bike than in a car or on public transit.
E-bikes are awesome for commuting. Especially if there are hills in the way.
If have a Cannondale City bike with the 85nm Bosch CX motor. Just Crushes hills. So much fun. A bit heavy & slow on the flat but great for rapid stop&starts. Getting above 18mph on the flat is not easy after the assisted 15.5mph. Downhills as fast as any bike.
The biggest problem with an E-bike is getting it Stolen. I lock with 2 Kryptonite Mini 7 D locks, a front disk lock and the built in Abus rear wheel lock.
Even then in London I keep an eye on it or leave it only for 10 minutes max.
There's something about achieving feats of speed through your own efforts that makes it so very rewarding. Maybe someday when I get old, I'll use an ebike, but I'm perfectly happy with a classic manual bike.
There's something really worrying about someone mentioning "achieving feats of speed" in context of daily commute.
I mean: looking at people in cars surrounding me every day, I also get the notion of them being very focused on "achieving feats of speed" during their drive to work or shops. And it's really hard to be enthusiastic about this - especially when you're an unprotected road user.
Are you a Strava obsessed lycra lout then?
I would go for the e bike since you can get to work faster without sweating up a storm and go places cars can't. It's not as good at running over people as a car but sometimes you have to compromise.
I have my dream bike. 2018 Trek Super Commuter +7 . An ebike will negate hills and wind, my two main enemies. You also "work" less while commuting which equal less sweat. Not fun when you are heading to work.
The first reason I cycle to work is to do cardio.
The second is to save money.
And the 3rd reason is to overtake e-bikes on my road bike.
4th reason is to absolutely bomb it down a quite route with no risk of collision. :D
I'm sure U can overtake them on hills😂
I use a carrera crosscity ebike for my commute too and from work, fast and efficient and I'm not sweaty when i get there.
I'm not an athletic cyclist. I just wear normal clothes, no lycra. On a 20km commute I average 20kmh. Roadies I know think this is dreadfully slow but I'm on a slower heavier bike and not pushing for performance carrying a lot of stuff usually wearing ordinary clothes.
I test rode my first e-bike just two weeks ago and it was very informative even though it was just for a short ride.
Even on eco or minimum assist it was noticeably easier to take a hill. And I'm a big man. 2 metres tall and about 120kg. Not fat, just appropriate for my height.
And compared to my own bike weighted down with racks and bags I reached a nice cruising speed much easier.
But then I suddenly felt as if there was a weight holding me back.
I'd hit 25kmh and the motor had cut out assisting.
On my own bike averaging 20kmh I would very often easily be doing a good deal over 25, 30kmh and higher on the flats and declines. But it's the hills and headwinds that really slow me down, sap my energy and make me sweat. Whichever e-bike I will eventually get is going to need to have a good selection of derailleur gears so that I can disengage the motor and pedal faster than just 25kmh under my own steam without any resistance when it's suitable.
It's a shame that an ordinary pedal assist e-bike in Europe doesn't go faster than 25kmh OR allow stronger than 250wh motors for additional help on steep hills but still, the help I will get on the hills will certainly improve my ride and hopefully bring my average up to 25kmh or higher with less overall effort.
You titled the video as if this would be a comparison between e-bikes and manual bikes, but then didn't perform any extensive tests to demonstrate the difference. You rode between two points on both types of bikes, and even wore a heart monitor to see your physical response, but didn't provide any data to the viewer about the differences between the two rides. This was more of a promotion of e-bikes than an actual, objective look, which is fine (I like e-bikes myself) but that's not what this video was billed to be.
Wow how prices have shot up, i paid £650 for the higher specced Trek dual sport3 in 2020.
Cold rainy days are just crappy either way. Especially not in lycra. Sitting in wet clothes for a day is grim. Plus, I don’t always just sit in an office all day, I have to go to see clients, so couldn’t use a bike everyday sadly.
Once the issue of bike theft can be sorted i suspect ebike transport will be the future in many cities.
I went for a Surly, if I want an Ebike I will throw 1500 watts on it for 1,200 bucks.
I’m looking to work from home. Cheapest method. 1 min from studio to kitchen
😂
Of course if you could afford $3000 plus for a bike; definitely you should get an ebike. Otherwise, short commute you could just use a regular bike or a cheap car which has more room for people and groceries.
Thank you! Someone had to to say that
I'm in donegal, nothing but hills.
Hey everyone, just came across this new project for the Freebeat Morph 2-in-1 e-Bike and I have to say, I'm intrigued! The fact that it can be charged indoors is a game-changer for me. I love the idea of combining indoor fitness with outdoor exploration. The brushless 750W motor and impressive 80Nm torque definitely caught my attention too. And with 80mm front suspension and puncture-resistant fat tires, it seems like a smooth ride is guaranteed in any terrain. Plus, the Smart Saddle Detection+ feature and the ability to convert calories into CO2-free miles? That's impressive! Definitely considering supporting this project. Anyone else excited about the Freebeat Morph e-bike?
Get the cheapest used bike you can find and add the most expensive lock you can afford
I want to share my experience using e-bike. "Legal" one, with a motor 250 W. I don't know, what those "legal", actually useless bikes are produced for, because 250 W is a very, very weak motor, to speak about it's "assistance" is just ridiculous. Some assistance only on flat road, forget it when moving uphills, you'll carry yourself plus 60-70 pounds of this bloody piece of metal. For about thousand pounds or so you'll get yourself headaches and pain in ass, sorry my French. After returning my e-bike to shop I felt myself like awaken from the worst nightmare.
Honestly, I don't know who are those people giving these bikes 5 stars. Living in flat countries, probably.
What e-bike did you try? Torque and Newtonmetre (Nm) output varies dramatically between manufacturers.
There are now several electric motor manufacturers making 250 watt motors with 85-95 Nm output.
I have watched reviews of American e-bikes with 1000-1500 watt motors "boasting" of just having that same level of Nm output.
Seriously, tell me what bike you tried out so I can avoid it. Unless you are just making stuff up!
Ridiculous, you can get a decent second hand bike for £50 upwards depending on your pocket and eeds , tastes etc. And probably £20 to £50 With a bike tech ,setting the bike up, look localy or try Halfords for example it will run like a good un , cycling is still cheap , way cheaper than that.
"Cyclopath"? I've seen some of those.
Who's doing the calculations on this vid? £4 x 250 is not £900, and £10.60 x 250 is not £2385.
Shame that didn't mention cycle to work scheme to reduce the cost of ownership.
Yeah that is for all bikes….so not really a factor
Assuming one has electricity an e-bike is great for commuting.
I have 6 bikes in my garage and none are e-bikes. Don't plan on riding or getting one anytime soon. If I need assistance getting around, that's what my car is for.
No wonder you left San Francisco.
e bike for short commutes I live two miles from work regular bikes for everything else
I would have thought it should be the other way around.
Normal bike for short local commutes.
E-bike for longer harder commutes or hills, headwinds and bad weather so you don't arrive tired and sweating.
Electric bike is great if you're a pensioner or if you're injured. Otherwise i see no reason why anyone should use an electric bike to commute. Few minutes you'll save with an e-bike are not worth getting fat for. Pedal your bike.
Weirdly not everyone is interested in beasting themselves up hills. Normal people just want to get from A to B without needing a shower at the other end.
You will get sweaty regardless if it's a normal or electric bike. Difference being that one is an electric motorbike, the other a bicycle.
I don't have an electric bike, but I commute from time to time with my road bike. My daily commute to work is 60 km with two hills with sections at 16%. I can't do a full week, it's way too hard.
That’s a commute! Mine is 5k each way and 1-2 days a week I run it as the bike hardly gets the heart going!!! Wouldn’t dream of driving mind you
@@filip000 try riding an electric bike, then you'll see. If you want to get a sweat on with an ebike you can but you most definitely don't have to. The bikes that this article is talking about are pedal assist. Again, go ride one and then you'll see .. they are not motorbikes.