Angelfish Reef Introduction | Waterbox Aquariums Reef LX 270.6 - Part 1
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- This is the introduction video to my new Waterbox Aquariums Reef LX 270.6 build series.
During the course of this project, I will attempt to successfully keep an angelfish in a reef tank, slowly I will add corals to see which ones it eats and gradually work out what corals it can and can't live with.
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Great project! I did something similar, prioritizing large angel, in a reef tank .I had a French angle, they truly have awesome personalities, he always put on a good show for kids. We got him as a juvenile, not much bigger than a quarter, after approximately 15 years he was a size of a dinner plate. The other star of the show was an Asfur angel. Also the size of a dinner plate. They lived together for that same 15 years. We had a 72” skimmer, critical to the success of a tank with large angels. We ended up donating those two angels to a super large tank. Another tip was if the power went out you must have back up or have air pumped into tank to keep oxygen up. Angels get super stressed when environment changes.
Ps the worst angle / most aggressive fish to tank mates was Cortez
Good luck, I put in a queen angle which was no trouble to fish or corals, then I added a blue face the queen went savage. The blue face kept hiding in the caves that the queen couldn’t get to. Two weeks later the queen is in the sump waiting to be added back again with the blue face in a months time. My suggestion would be to add them all the same time.
Oh boy, this is the video for me! Angelfish have always been my favorite fish! I'd be glad to offer my suggestions. For large angelfish, my personal favorites are;
Annularis, Bandit, Scribbled, and Emperor.
And for small angelfish;
Multicolor, Venusta, Multibarred, and Whitetail Pygmy.
Also, don't get the Cherub, or any Flamebacks for that matter. They are mean as heck. My dad had a pair of Flamebacks a while ago, and they literally killed all their tankmates.
Really want to see this tank! I like the idea of testing the angelfish out with presenting it with coral. Hopefully it works out! Good luck! Looking forward to todays livestream.
After 30 years, this is still my dream tank and I am currently planning a version. I'm looking forward to the rest of the series!
I would definitely love to see this happen!
I would personally pick more than just 1 RSWC Angel. A multicolour would definitely be one of the dwarfs. The other thing is, I would get a juvenile purely because of watching the transition.
I have a regal in my 4’ currently and eventually if I get a 6’ tank I’d love to try out a similar thing to you and see if they go well with clams as well as coral.
A couple angels (dwarf and large) I’d love to see you try are;
Centropyge multicolour
Centropyge interruptus
Centropyge flavissimus
Centropyge fisheri
Pomacanthus xanthometopon
Pomacanthus navarchus
Holacanthus tricolour
Holacanthus africanus
Apolemichthys xanthoitis
Chaetodontoplus mesoleucus
Cherubs are great, I loved mine!
You should get an angel that YOU want, but personally the project would be very cool with a big QUEEN ANGEL as they are known to be so potentially destructive and grumpy in a reef-style setup, that it would be a real challenge! :)
Of course the idea of following your suffering is tempting (don't you think reef dork?). Keep us posted in this beautifull and somewhat sadistic proyect!
Oh boy, this is going to be one hell of a ride.
For the dwarf angel I suggest a bi colour. I love the vivid blue and the look stunning.
Pick the one you've always wanted!!
My adult Emperor angel has never bothered my sps or LPS in my 320.7 waterbox. He was introduced as a juvenile and is kept well fed. Good luck
I've kept my Regal and Goldflake angels in my 8x2.5x2.5 mixed reef tank for around 6 years with no issues at all with sps. The larger angels don't have the jaw structure to pick at small polyps, they only occasionally pick at the slime which doesn't cause any harm. The first issue I've had is in the last couple of weeks after adding a fist full of dollars chalice frag where the Regal has pecked away the mouths, but this did seem to be a more 'meaty' chalice than my other chalice's which it's left alone. It seems to have got board of it now though so fingers crossed it will heal. They have also left my other lps alone, such as my torch corals, hammer corals, goniopora and Ricordias. I wouldnt trust them with zoas, as I've had an adult emporer angel eat through an entire rock of them in a day in the past, and you would have to be mad to put anything with them like a scolly, trachy, acan ect. I also have a Flame angel, which is more likely than the large angels to pick at sps, but touch wood it's been good as gold and not touched a thing.
Can’t wait to see the end result
So excited for this experiment
I don’t know much about the big angel but I have had 2 different coral beauty’s and well they both turned into monsters after about 6 months. Can’t wait to see more updates
Just thinking out loud but I think part of the reason really large tanks work is that the rate of coral growth is greater than munching rate of the corallivores.
A coral beauty would be my choice for dwarf angelfish. For larger Angels I really like the Flagfin Angelfish.
popcorn ,comfy seat, go for it!
Cherub are as reef safe as you can get so would be a great choice (because I doubt you'd have to get it out if you did swap the large angel. I think you should definitely get the annularis and then a Regal or some type of swallowtail as the third one
annularis are gorgeous! I love the idea!
I love how my next recommended video is your 5 saltwater fish I regret buying with an angelfish for the thumbnail lol.
Looking forward to this series!! Planning the same adventure myself - a few months away from starting, but am looking forward to learning from your experience! Good Luck!!
Queen angel is a must besides regal. For dwarf I’d say cherub is more active and personality is great. Can’t wait to see this
Hi, I think your channel is amazing, and I think you and reef dork work well together and great banter.
You are starting your Angel project, and I found a channel where this channel called That reefer dude is from uk. He has 1000l tank and has loads of angels, tangs and wrasse. He has small amount of coral as well.
Very nice idea!
I will also introduce in my tank a magestic and a lemonpeel angel next week.
One pice of advice, if you alow me, paint the exterior bottom of your new tank in white it is very possible you will thank me later, the reference ar some great german tanks.
Looking forward to see your videos, I am realy curios about the corals that will survive :)
Annularis definitely. A trio of moorish aswell with it would be cool. And a couple of fireballs 👌
Good luck Ryan , I’ve a full mixed reef and angel wise I’ve got the Kingi and regal … touch wood no issues … just yet. Look forward to more videos
I have a lemonpeel dwarf who are noted to be on the worse end of dwarfs and its pretty good with mixed coral, ive had it for about 1.5 years now, It bullied a Coral Beauty out of the tank so many times i couldnt keep up and lost it eventually but other than that, its a model citizen. Fingers crossed :D
I have a huge annularius angel in my Fowler and he is surely the boss of the tank. I would recommend adding the dwarf angels first!
I love this idea. I want to get a powder blue tang myself for similar reasons… the challenge. I have a smaller tank, so I need to build another system and find a healthy specimen that doesn’t bully everything or wipe the tank out with disease. I’m still trying to decide the dimensions of the tank I want though. I’d like something 5-6 ft x > 24” x 20”. Wide & deep tanks really interest me and if I’m going big, it’s going to be around for a while… good luck!
Captive-Bred Blue Line Angel (many actually keep Blue Lines in reefs)
Captive-Bred Majestic Angel (again, many have kept them in reefs)
Captive-Bred Gold Flake Angel (many keep them in reefs)
Lemon Peel Angel
Bi-Color Angel
My favorite large angel would be the Asfur Angelfish, I just really like that dramatic colors and shapes it makes when it swims. But your a man that always follows his dreams so you should go with the Annularis, if that's the one on your heart. My 2 cents for the dwarf would be a Multibar Angelfish, because I think the contrast in color yet the similarity with the stripes would look really striking next to the Annularis. Either way I am excited to see it all come together, Good Luck!
Hoping you go with multiple Angels and butterflies. Great choice of a tank. I’ve got a 180.5 and love it.
Good luck my friend. Seen Polo Reef do it , but he feeds a ton. Which maybe the key.
I’ve got an adult emperor, anularis, queen, blue face , swallow, flame all in a reef tank , did have a kingi but was getting bullied and for the price wasn’t worth the risk , so he went to a more peaceful tank, I’m looking to add maybe 1 more and that will be the lot
My favorite angelfish is the Blue Line, so my vote is for that one, but they aren’t the biggest angelfish out there, so I like the Annularis idea. The Bandit is one of my favorite fish as well but it will be hard to get it I agree. Another angelfish idea would be the Chrysurus, Personifier, and Sribbled. Hope you like my ideas.
My order for Large Angels would be - Maculosus, Gold Flake, Annularis
Passer angel yes and potters for the dwarf
Nice. Do it with butterflyfish! I’m obsessed with them and people don’t spotlight them these days! I have a teardrop and a Heniochus acuminatus 😂❤
For angel tank, I would do asfur sixbar, maculosus, Koran will always have my heart because it’s the only large angel I’ve had (had to give it away bc they get huge) bandit angel, Old woman angelfish (they are so unique you don’t get many grey colours like that) Grey angel, rock beauty, blue angel, king angel, personifer and Cortez angel
Coral beauty larg one the other angel s killed it I never had any trubble with angels before
After this I see Angel fish are mean bastard s
Blue ring is ok but id try a queen. It would be more of a challenge with the coral then the blue ring. My runner ups would be an asfur or maculosis angel as again would be more of a challenge then a blue ring.
Potters and a Clarion.
I wonder, if KZ’s Flatworm Stop makes corals unpalatable to flatworms, would it do the same for Angelfish?
I'd like to see you try a French Angel and a Bi-Colored Dwarf Angel
Sounds like a good project.
Could I just ask a quick question unrelated, at what height are your radions in your coral farm and what intensity do you run them at?
Thanks, look forward to more videos.
Why Angels and not Angels+butterfly fish?
i honestly would ditch this idea and do a predator reef. lionfish, eels, mappa puffer, grouper
Mehh, their reputation for being terrors with corals is way overblown. I’ve been keeping these things in reef tanks for almost two decades without issues.
They aren’t obligate coralivores so it’s just a matter of curbing their tendencies to go after corals :)
Emperor angel and Korn Angel spelling wrong but yes simpler buy different. I paired the them the turned to pair of bastard s picking on everything in a 150 gallons Aquarium ate my bottom coral. And picked on the wrong fish light s I was sleeping red v tail grooper killed them I'm not happy at that point but at least my new young reef is safe I had to stop myself buying a cream angel. People tell all angles will eat coral s and said oh just keep them full and happy and healthy and won't eat coral s they said. I stick with my tangs
You're mad 🤣
Only 75% mad