Hi glad you enjoyed the video, Such an Iconic set its seems criminal that one was not preserved for the national collection. Thanks for watching. Oscar
Always wanted one of these in the 60s and 70s, never got round to it until recently, got the Bachmann version instead with two power cars, lighting, table lights, just an amazing model - but that's 50 years of progress for you, and quite a bit more money. Thanks for another great review!
I’m really enjoying your series of videos Oscar. Triang really produced some cutting edge models, for their time. Especially the Blue Pullmans. It took Bachmann a few decades to produce something more “updated” in the Blue Pullman, I think testimony to Triang’s initiative from 60’s and 70’s.
Oscar another great nostalgic video. When I was a kid I would have given anything for a trainset as smashing as yours. I loved the way you have captured the essence of what trinag trains is all about, the play value Love the way you have plonked the signal box a windmill and a very iffy looking hill all together. But that was the whole point, using bridges and inclines etc just because you could. It was just nonsense but fun in bucket loads. Back to the pullman, I had one and I can remember going to St Pancras in the very early 60s to see it leave for Manchester. It was different, it was blue. Very sad to think it wasnt preserved and how wonderful it would have looked in the correct chocolate and cream livery. Never ever could imagine St Pancras would become one of the most amazing stations in the world. Here is a challenge for you Oscar, and this is because I moved to Sydney in 1972. See if you can get your hands on the Sydney Emu overhead electric set. We called them red rattlers. They were made by Triang.
Good morning Steven, I would have loved to see one of those Blue Pullmans making it way out of St Pancras or anywhere for that matter. Evan at the time these Pulmans were taken out of service it seems odd that at least one set was not kept for the National Collection. But then we nearly lost St Pancras to almost total neglect. I used to work just off the Euston Road between St Pancras and Euston Station in the mid-80s I would walk up the Euston Road from Kings Cross every day the whole area was totally neglected as the British Library came out of the ground! It's amazing it survived really with the two stations either side. The whole area is of course totally transformed now. A blue Pullman there now would pull some crowd I think. The models you speak of R.550/R.551/R.552 and the variations of the Boxed sets Y have been of interest to me for some time. Especially as there is potential to have them run from Catenary. But as yet I have none of these items. Thanks again for watching. Oscar
@@oscarpaisley I can well remember steam at Kings cross also St Pancras and Euston. Up to 1965 steam still ran into Euston, mainly black 5s and some standard class locos. Marylebone also had steam till 66 and Waterloo till July 67.. They were good days with interesting locos including diesels. Today I find it all rather efficient but dull. The red settlers sets are produced now but they are HO and not 00. They were horrible when I look back, freezing cold in winter and as hot as hell in summer. The seats were vinyl so it was a sweat bath.
Good morning Andy and Merry Christmas, I'm sorry I'm unsure which station that Hornby Dublo based there models on. It would be very interesting to find out and if any of them still exist in there original form. They are a terrific range of buildings they developed over the years. Thank you for watching take care. Oscar
Many thanks Oscar for a very concise survey of the Blue Pullman-the Western Region variant of it of course. Your model seems very mint compared to the many sorry looking samples seen at swapmeets down the years. The bodywork was really excellent for its time and what would have been an outstanding model was forced to use Triangs standard 'mark1' coach bogie for their usual production economy reasons. Although it is still a gem!
Hi, I've got one of these and I bought the later Hornby carriages, which don't have silver roofs, so the paint spray will be coming out net work break. I also noticed on the later Hornby carriages that the windows are tinted is this correct? Sorry to go on I have other questions about this loco but I will stop here
I'm not sure about tinted windows. The models I have don't appear to have them. I'm sure there were many batch variations in material. Body colours change, underframes are part sprayed silver on some and not on others. If the models changed hands a few time others may have made changes. The four variations I have can be seen in this video. ua-cam.com/video/bDr6JXNVCv0/v-deo.html Oscar
I have a blue Pullman got given to me I lent it to someone and part of the window painles where come loss so I toke it to someone to get fix so glued in and he pulled the whole thing out and replaced it with a bit of plasice I was not happy been looking for replacement
I think these were very popular in their day. Especially as part of the RS52 set. I wonder how many miles they would have clocked up going around that oval of track on the carpet Christmas / Birthday! Combined I think I would be some number! "Model Railways Unlimited" has done a great set of three videos on the restoration of a Tri-ang Pullman Set. ua-cam.com/video/4P_69ss-KJA/v-deo.html Oscar
Indeed more than the real ones I expect, I've watched Mike's videos they are excellent, Pat Hammond puts their popularity down to mail order catalogues and the colour blue, probably correct, my Gran lived by the line into Cheadle Heath station, and I was allowed on a few occasions to stay up until nine o'clock (!) to watch the returning Midland Pullman, which explains my fondness for them, I never got to see the South West version which the Triang model is based on.
Excellent. I prefer your videos to the official Hornby ones Oscar. Yours are just more entertaining, and it's also because I had a go at trying to build up a Triang layout in my early teens. I got as far as a double oval with some sidings. I THINK my elevated section was a passing loop on the outer oval (obviously I guess). It took up all of my 6' x 4' plywood bass. First set was the Trans Continental (silver with red trim) which I got for Xmas 1963. Many years later I got a goods set with a black tank loco (totally forget which one now), and a little later got the "Britannia" loco. I would've had some different carriages for that but I forget which ones. My big dream was to have a layout very similar to yours with the turntable pretty much where you've got it.
Wonderful video as usual! I doubt you take requests, but could you possible do a review on RS.26 the B.R. Goods Train Set? It’s the only tri-ang set I own and the Deeley 3F is a wonderful little locomotive.
Hi, unfortunately I do not have that set. The nearest thing I have that may interest you is the RS5 from the early 1960's. I had it in a video a short time ago, here is the link ua-cam.com/video/DL8NsS3jyFI/v-deo.html Oscar
Each year I would get the catalogue and I can remember when this was the NEW model. It somehow seemed too modern to belong with all the other things on offer. How fifty or sixty years changes one's outlook.
Hi, my collection from childhood disappeared at some point after I left home. I have to admit though, it had all been packed away in boxes for quite some. As I had lost interest in my early teens. Like yourself, I wish I still had them now. Oscar
I have a train set from 1969 that has a Class 37 diesel loco and 3 Pullman coaches. On the underneath of the loco it says 'Made in England'. Where did it go wrong that we are giving money to China to support their economy to make items we can make here.
As far as I know it was a joint development on the part of BR, Pullman car company and the British Transport commision, this was part of the modernisation plan in 1955.
Great video Oscar. I was hoping Hornby would have reintroduced this model as part of their Railroad range but I understand the moulds have been broken. I bought a second hand one a few years ago. I know Bachmann produce a beautiful model but it's very expensive.
Hi Rob, I think there is a lot of interest in this model and would make a great addition to the Railroad range. I think if the mould still exists it may have been altered so many times over the years as the model evolved into the early 70s that it may not be possible to alter it again to produce the more desirable earlier version. The Bachmann model really is beautiful, but as you point out very expensive. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. Oscar
A few years ago, I managed to put together a set of two driving cars, two parlour cars and two of the Kitmaster kitchen cars, which gives a correct configuration for the two 6-car Midland Pullman sets. Very much a work in progress, but runs quite well. Unfortunately, the Kitmaster kitchen cars had not been very well put together, so I am having to disassemble them - glue and all - which is a very time-consuming process. I'll no doubt then have to repaint them as the blue is different from the Triang colour - neither is properly correct, but the Triang is, I think, closer to proper Nanking Blue - and I'd rather repaint two cars than four - especially as I might be able to remove the glazing and white insert panels of the Kitmaster vehicles. The bogies are a real problem, being standard Mk1 coach bogies so look all wrong - especially as the Kitmaster coaches have the correct bogies - even to the extent. Rather than just replacing the wheels, I replaced the bogies completely with Bachmann 'Commonwealth' bogies (www.bachmann.co.uk/product/commonwealth-coach-bogies-%28x2%29/36-008a) which are pretty close and give you a less obtrusive coupling as well. They run exceptionally freely, too. Not much you can do about the gross motor bogie, but since the Bachmann bogies come in pairs I have a spare. If I get really adventurous, I might try grinding off the exterior of the motor bogie and mounting the sideframes of the Bachmann bogie. Wish me luck.
These trains sets are toys adopted as life essentials by adults and its Brilliant!!! Superb upload. Thank you.
Thanks Mark, glad you enjoyed the video.
Oscar
Thanks for the memory of the Blue Pullman ... My first train set in the 60's
Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed seeing these items in action.
Oscar
Wonderful model I saw this as a kid it looked quite space age lovely 👍
Morning thanks again for watching, it still has a very modern look about it.
All the best.
Oscar
The frosted glass at each carriage end + the interior detailing are so well done. Lovely colour and an interesting if a bit tragic history. Nice video
Hi glad you enjoyed the video, Such an Iconic set its seems criminal that one was not preserved for the national collection.
Thanks for watching.
Oscar
Wow, the Blue Pullman, one of the most beautiful trains. Really wonderful.
Always wanted one of these in the 60s and 70s, never got round to it until recently, got the Bachmann version instead with two power cars, lighting, table lights, just an amazing model - but that's 50 years of progress for you, and quite a bit more money. Thanks for another great review!
Your right Steve, these Bachmann models are really terrific. Back when we had a local model shop I remember seeing these being demonstrated. Oscar
I’m really enjoying your series of videos Oscar. Triang really produced some cutting edge models, for their time. Especially the Blue Pullmans. It took Bachmann a few decades to produce something more “updated” in the Blue Pullman, I think testimony to Triang’s initiative from 60’s and 70’s.
Thanks Andrew. Oscar
Mine has sat in storage for several years, and I haven't run it in longer yet, but I can practically smell the ozone!
Good morning Matt sounds like its time to retrieve you set from storage...
Thanks for watching.
Oscar
Oscar another great nostalgic video. When I was a kid I would have given anything for a trainset as smashing as yours.
I loved the way you have captured the essence of what trinag trains is all about, the play value
Love the way you have plonked the signal box a windmill and a very iffy looking hill all together.
But that was the whole point, using bridges and inclines etc just because you could.
It was just nonsense but fun in bucket loads.
Back to the pullman, I had one and I can remember going to St Pancras in the very early 60s to see it leave for Manchester.
It was different, it was blue.
Very sad to think it wasnt preserved and how wonderful it would have looked in the correct chocolate and cream livery.
Never ever could imagine St Pancras would become one of the most amazing stations in the world.
Here is a challenge for you Oscar, and this is because I moved to Sydney in 1972.
See if you can get your hands on the Sydney Emu overhead electric set.
We called them red rattlers.
They were made by Triang.
Good morning Steven, I would have loved to see one of those Blue Pullmans making it way out of St Pancras or anywhere for that matter. Evan at the time these Pulmans were taken out of service it seems odd that at least one set was not kept for the National Collection. But then we nearly lost St Pancras to almost total neglect. I used to work just off the Euston Road between St Pancras and Euston Station in the mid-80s I would walk up the Euston Road from Kings Cross every day the whole area was totally neglected as the British Library came out of the ground! It's amazing it survived really with the two stations either side. The whole area is of course totally transformed now. A blue Pullman there now would pull some crowd I think. The models you speak of R.550/R.551/R.552 and the variations of the Boxed sets Y have been of interest to me for some time. Especially as there is potential to have them run from Catenary. But as yet I have none of these items.
Thanks again for watching.
Oscar
@@oscarpaisley I can well remember steam at Kings cross also St Pancras and Euston.
Up to 1965 steam still ran into Euston, mainly black 5s and some standard class locos.
Marylebone also had steam till 66 and Waterloo till July 67..
They were good days with interesting locos including diesels.
Today I find it all rather efficient but dull.
The red settlers sets are produced now but they are HO and not 00.
They were horrible when I look back, freezing cold in winter and as hot as hell in summer.
The seats were vinyl so it was a sweat bath.
Brings back memories of my trains. Great video!
This one escaped my attention too Oscar. Yours appears to be in very good condition. Thank you for showing it. David.
Hi David, it's not bad for 55 years old. Oscar
great video. another hit from margate factory,i remember the real ones speeding through Reading in 1966
That must have been some sight Peter! I would love to have seen one of these in action for real. I believe none of the type was preserved.
Oscar
Awesome looking train 😎
Good evening Model Minutes, it definitely one of there more striking models in this livery.
Thanks again for watching.
Oscar
Hi merry Xmas do you know which station the dublo d1 is modeled on , please
Good morning Andy and Merry Christmas, I'm sorry I'm unsure which station that Hornby Dublo based there models on. It would be very interesting to find out and if any of them still exist in there original form. They are a terrific range of buildings they developed over the years.
Thank you for watching take care.
Oscar
Many thanks Oscar for a very concise survey of the Blue Pullman-the Western Region variant of it of course. Your model seems very mint compared to the many sorry looking samples seen at swapmeets down the years. The bodywork was really excellent for its time and what would have been an outstanding model was forced to use Triangs standard 'mark1' coach bogie for their usual production economy reasons. Although it is still a gem!
I'm with you there, they just very beautiful set of models.
Thanks again.
Oscar
Lovely, you know I am a fan of these :) I suppose my upgrades spoil the model? Great video again
Hi, I've got one of these and I bought the later Hornby carriages, which don't have silver roofs, so the paint spray will be coming out net work break. I also noticed on the later Hornby carriages that the windows are tinted is this correct? Sorry to go on I have other questions about this loco but I will stop here
I'm not sure about tinted windows. The models I have don't appear to have them. I'm sure there were many batch variations in material. Body colours change, underframes are part sprayed silver on some and not on others. If the models changed hands a few time others may have made changes. The four variations I have can be seen in this video. ua-cam.com/video/bDr6JXNVCv0/v-deo.html
Oscar
I have a blue Pullman got given to me I lent it to someone and part of the window painles where come loss so I toke it to someone to get fix so glued in and he pulled the whole thing out and replaced it with a bit of plasice I was not happy been looking for replacement
Thanks Oscar, super condition, mine are quite careworn!
I think these were very popular in their day. Especially as part of the RS52 set. I wonder how many miles they would have clocked up going around that oval of track on the carpet Christmas / Birthday! Combined I think I would be some number! "Model Railways Unlimited" has done a great set of three videos on the restoration of a Tri-ang Pullman Set. ua-cam.com/video/4P_69ss-KJA/v-deo.html
Oscar
Indeed more than the real ones I expect, I've watched Mike's videos they are excellent, Pat Hammond puts their popularity down to mail order catalogues and the colour blue, probably correct, my Gran lived by the line into Cheadle Heath station, and I was allowed on a few occasions to stay up until nine o'clock (!) to watch the returning Midland Pullman, which explains my fondness for them, I never got to see the South West version which the Triang model is based on.
Absolutely brilliant video thanks
Good evening Matt, terrific to hear you enjoyed the video.
Thanks for watching.
Oscar
Excellent. I prefer your videos to the official Hornby ones Oscar. Yours are just more entertaining, and it's also because I had a go at trying to build up a Triang layout in my early teens. I got as far as a double oval with some sidings. I THINK my elevated section was a passing loop on the outer oval (obviously I guess). It took up all of my 6' x 4' plywood bass. First set was the Trans Continental (silver with red trim) which I got for Xmas 1963. Many years later I got a goods set with a black tank loco (totally forget which one now), and a little later got the "Britannia" loco. I would've had some different carriages for that but I forget which ones. My big dream was to have a layout very similar to yours with the turntable pretty much where you've got it.
Hi, sounds like you had quite a collection. Great to hart you are enjoying the videos.
Thanks for watching.
Oscar
Wonderful video as usual! I doubt you take requests, but could you possible do a review on RS.26 the B.R. Goods Train Set? It’s the only tri-ang set I own and the Deeley 3F is a wonderful little locomotive.
Hi, unfortunately I do not have that set. The nearest thing I have that may interest you is the RS5 from the early 1960's. I had it in a video a short time ago, here is the link ua-cam.com/video/DL8NsS3jyFI/v-deo.html
Oscar
Each year I would get the catalogue and I can remember when this was the NEW model. It somehow seemed too modern to belong with all the other things on offer. How fifty or sixty years changes one's outlook.
Hi thanks for watching and taking the time to leave this great comment.
Oscar
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it.
Oscar
I had a good collection of Hornby Triang in the early 70s. But my dad sold them a few years later. That's a shame. I wish I still had them.
Hi, my collection from childhood disappeared at some point after I left home. I have to admit though, it had all been packed away in boxes for quite some. As I had lost interest in my early teens. Like yourself, I wish I still had them now.
Oscar
I had a Triang Hornby Blue Pullman set back in the later 60s but sold it to a friend for $10 (Australian) because I thought it was boring
These things happen!
Thanks for watching.
Oscar
Nice to see a model railway with electric wires. More realistic.
Thanks Tony glad you enjoyed seeing my railway.
Oscar
I have a train set from 1969 that has a Class 37 diesel loco and 3 Pullman coaches. On the underneath of the loco it says 'Made in England'. Where did it go wrong that we are giving money to China to support their economy to make items we can make here.
Hi, a great train set and very interesting question!
Thanks for watching.
Oscar
i assume the blue pullman is private company to br
As far as I know it was a joint development on the part of BR, Pullman car company and the British Transport commision, this was part of the modernisation plan in 1955.
half and half
Great video Oscar. I was hoping Hornby would have reintroduced this model as part of their Railroad range but I understand the moulds have been broken. I bought a second hand one a few years ago. I know Bachmann produce a beautiful model but it's very expensive.
Hi Rob, I think there is a lot of interest in this model and would make a great addition to the Railroad range. I think if the mould still exists it may have been altered so many times over the years as the model evolved into the early 70s that it may not be possible to alter it again to produce the more desirable earlier version. The Bachmann model really is beautiful, but as you point out very expensive.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
Oscar
I really love the look of the original Blue Pullman livery. The yellow, blue and gray, and the yellow, gray and blue are just not as class looking.
Hi Andrew, this if a very striking livery. Oscar
A few years ago, I managed to put together a set of two driving cars, two parlour cars and two of the Kitmaster kitchen cars, which gives a correct configuration for the two 6-car Midland Pullman sets. Very much a work in progress, but runs quite well. Unfortunately, the Kitmaster kitchen cars had not been very well put together, so I am having to disassemble them - glue and all - which is a very time-consuming process. I'll no doubt then have to repaint them as the blue is different from the Triang colour - neither is properly correct, but the Triang is, I think, closer to proper Nanking Blue - and I'd rather repaint two cars than four - especially as I might be able to remove the glazing and white insert panels of the Kitmaster vehicles.
The bogies are a real problem, being standard Mk1 coach bogies so look all wrong - especially as the Kitmaster coaches have the correct bogies - even to the extent. Rather than just replacing the wheels, I replaced the bogies completely with Bachmann 'Commonwealth' bogies (www.bachmann.co.uk/product/commonwealth-coach-bogies-%28x2%29/36-008a) which are pretty close and give you a less obtrusive coupling as well. They run exceptionally freely, too.
Not much you can do about the gross motor bogie, but since the Bachmann bogies come in pairs I have a spare. If I get really adventurous, I might try grinding off the exterior of the motor bogie and mounting the sideframes of the Bachmann bogie. Wish me luck.