Rex Heuermann's former colleagues speak out | Banfield
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- Former co-workers of Rex Heuermann, the man who is accused of killing six women, are speaking out about behavior they witnessed during work.
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Top architect in the country. I think not, sir. This gentleman owes many talented, creative architects an apology
Unless you’re part of that industry, and somehow know more, and know differently, who are you to say that he’s wrong? His crimes don’t negate the fact he was good at his day job lol.
He couldnt even fix his own house.😆😆
😅 And you know this because?
@@gs4life92rips.e7.
- he was basically a liaison between builders & city regulations. He found loopholes for his clients.
THANK YOU! He clearly doesn't know what he's talking about.
One of Ashleigh’s better interviews! Thanks for giving more space for your guests to speak.
These poor people. I cannot imagine finding out someone I worked for was a serial killer. Terrifying.
Unfortunately nothing surprises me.
Most important victims.
Wonder if we will hear from any of those clients
@@heidiclub6813 God I hope so!
What are you talking about people got killed and you're talking about co-workers that just had to work next to him big deal
That’s the bogeyman. Real monster walking around us
fr fucking insane
100% _this._ Both the OP Ricardo and the commenter above me nailed the "bogeyman" and the "... fucking insane..." parts. This guy is just so fucking frightening to me. I'm 5'1" and mid-size and I just cannot _fathom_ being grabbed and restrained and terrorized by this literal monster. Fucking _insane_ is right.
His appearance is that of a monster.
@@QuinnieMae he definitely 'hunted' his victims. he definitely taunted them and likely told them what he was going to do!! these people must have been scared out of their wits. seriously. he held a house of horrors thats for sure
It’s hard to believe they didn’t catch him sooner since his appearance was described as being an ogre! Hiding in plain sight? So unfortunate!
My husband worked at an architectural firm that used Rex H. as a consultant. Rex was very obsessed with his guns, which really was a creepy feeling for my architect husband.
i bet
Wow
Eek!
how did guns come up while doing architecture?
It starts with that. I think that many hunters who love to kill animals for fun are psychopaths. The only difference is that one life is legal to kill and humans aren’t.
It must be a horrible feeling to know that someone you used to deal with on a professional basis is a cold, sadistic killer
His brother Craig is sus to me too. He killed a police captain and only got 3 years for it, and came at a neighbor with a metal pipe for mowing the lawn across the road on a Sunday. A million no trespassing signs. Rex bought land near him and was moving there.
Wow, what a charming family.
He killed a police officer and only got 3 years unbelievable
What sort of lunatic would mow a lawn on the sabbath, you can forgive him becoming agitated.
Only three years?? That's surprising.....
@@dogsrbetter He was intoxicated and caused a car accident. Drunk driving wasn’t as frowned upon in the 80s as it is now
I wouldn't call him a top architect. He was working on very basic renovations. He wasn't designing high end work.
look at the state of his own house?
Top architect? More notable than Frank Gehry, Calatrava? Seems unlikely
Supposedly he was an expert at building codes and doing things that other people didn’t understand or enjoy doing
Yes, and that's about it
Very unlikely as a matter of fact. Studied architectural technology NOT architecture.
If ever I hire an architect....I want to see his house first!!!!!!!😮😮😮His house is pathetic😂
He spent all his money on firearms and electronic devices (280 guns, 27 computers, 58 hard drives, etc.).
@@alexmiller7173 why so many computers?
@@gregdahlen4375storage detailed crime plan. 2 more muders were added because of digital evidence about step by step plan.
She’s lucky her connection to him was too close for him to victimize her
- also why TF they putting his creepy list out there for other screwed up people to start thinking about ?
i was thinking the same thing!!! these ppl just gonna copy and paste this shit!!
Yup- also my other thought is the petit women isn’t because they’re easy to overpower or knock out or whatever she said - it’s because that’s who he is attracted to and wanted to be around and “have”. These are people unable to control their urges , they have low impulse control and give in to their darkest urges - it’s all about what they want , not some genius calculations
He only targeted sex workers.
Not his type lol
@@mikeylikesit6622 men
3:37 A 'top architect' in the country wouldn't live in a small house on Long Island. They're trying to glamorize this...When he says it you can tell Mary is like, 'Huh?' 😅
You are correct... media glamorizing saying he's an architect. He studied architectural technology in New York; now works in building code reinforcement. Gehry or Graves he is NOT!
He is a top architect especially in midtown Manhattan. That’s the top in terms of the concrete jungle, he was a very wealthy man. How he chose to live doesn’t negate from that
He couldn’t sell it. It had everything he needed
He had multiple homes, can't chance the evidence with anyone else
It was his childhood home. But I think he also owned other properties.
Geez - Rex is the last guy I’d want to get into a contentious disagreement with.
He never did anything to people that had disagreements with him tho because these are always people that have a link to him, such as coworkers and neighbors. Rex really didn’t want to get caught and he was smart. So in that way random people who are just completely careless (don’t care if they go to prison) and people who prone to violence when they’re angry are actually worse to get into a disagreement with. There’s people all over that aren’t sadistic but they’re just nihilists with a short fuse…and you don’t wanna get into disagreements with them
He has purposefully misspelled those words to obfuscate word searching
Or he used speech to text .. and the state of that in the early aughts wasn't great
Or he was typing in the dark..
@@RobinHood_62 His handwritten notes also have spelling mistakes. I think he was simply bad at it.
That was my thought too!
@@nillyk5671What hand written notes?
Why the obsession with his penmanship? He was not writing for anyone else to read.
These monsters are on a different level than most people, and will never be truly understood no matter who tries to make sense of it.
man no such thing as a monster
All monsters are human.
Look into his cousin Kenneth Heuermann, pastor convicted of tourcher and rape..
My heart aches for the victims. How can we reconcile simply putting these types in a prison cell, when we all know that he should pay?
R.I.P to the victims
Seriously!!! let's talk about them a little more.. I cannot imagine their horror and pain!! RIP 🙏
If serial killer was a face…. TADAAAAAA
😂
And next we have John Smith who once helped Rex at a Pizza Hut. This is getting ridiculous.
agreed!🤦♀️🤡
Hilarious! The pizza crust that had his DNA.
😂😂😂
Top comment! 😂😂😂😂
judging by rex's build, helped him many times
Maybe the misspellings were part of the alter ego of this guy?
I believe it was a typed, Word document
Probably with his large fingers, he hits the wrong keys? Because I can't believe a successful architect (and he was successful) cannot possibly be uneducated
Agreed.
They are the deliberate misspellings of his his view of his 'other' personality.
Do you know if it's his handwriting?
What if theirs a second person involved?
I think her explanation of him using speech transcription software is pretty likely. I've known two people who use this instead of typing out texts. Sometimes they are completely incoherent, and at first I honestly thought they were drunk or had a low education level. Lol.
Misspelling words makes them hard for computer forensic teams to find them via searches. Notice he only mispelled words that an investigator might add to a list of search words a serial killer may have on their computer.
It's also possible he was copying one of the killers he read about in the books he had. One killer was known to deliberately misspell words.
I would be wanting to investigate that house he wanted to buy. Did he have access to it as the architect and could he of disposed of bodies here?
Investigators should check the spelling of his wife and daughter
I think they know more
His wife is from Island, she must type it
@@mariondewitit’s Iceland.
Maybe you also know more because you don’t know how it’s spelled?
It’s up to investigation to look into her. But it shouldn’t be because she is from another country. Some non-native speakers are better at spelling than those who have English as their first language.
Please get the facts right. Heuermann is NOT an architect. He studied architectural technology in New York and works in regulations and building code reinforcement. Give me a break.
Why are so many confused about this? That's a big discrepancy.
One can clearly observe the lack of architecturial skills with his own house. He had 2by4's holding up the porch top.
Cuz that's whats important here
His official job title was “architectural consultant”. An architectural consultant is typically an experienced architect who offers their knowledge and skills to help other architects or designers. They offer advice and guidance in architectural design, safety standards, construction techniques, aesthetics and professional development.
I thought he was a fully trained Architect?
Rex might not have written that list, because those misspelled words are suspicious. But someone who wasn't raised here and learned a different language might have wrote that list, Hmmm Mmmm. WIFE????
Or he just sucks at spelling.
Typical arrogant narcissistic architect.
agreed
Are architects really considered to be narcissistic?
@@Bearwithme560 having worked with countless architects for over 40 years I would say in my opinion, absolutely, yes. I have never dealt with one that I would even consider attempting to befriend.
@@sapete1936 I thought architects were like the crème de la crème, combining both engineering expertise with artistry. Not so much?
brilliant explanation on why Heuermann got the spelling consistently wrong! thank you for suggesting it.
Top Architect? Hardly more like a slum lord
Exactly, he's not a top architect. Just studied architectural technology. Major difference.
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Surely he wasnt one of the top architects in the country?? I mean, really?
I said same from the get go. I googled and found the facts.
He IS NOT a top architect. . Far from it.
I think that tends to happen w this kind of criminals, media exaggerate some profesional details (?) Not the first time I’ve seen it
Rn I can think of this Mexican serial killer they keep calling “the Mexican Dahmer” 🤦♀️and they keep positing his photos dressed w this doctor coat, when everyone that knew him agree that he’s an incompetent idiot 🤷♀️
Also nothing on his MO is similar to Dahmer😂(?)
People compare this guy to the btk, but his biggest inspiration was likely the toybox killer David Parker Ray
just thought the same thing. new mexico seems wild
Angelo Buono and Kenneth Bianchi,the Hillside Stranglers, were apparently an inspiration.
@@giovanna722 David Ray used his own daughter to abduct and torture his victims. Apparently so did Heuermann…
@@stephenkane2464 I used to live in southern NM in the 90s. After spring break we sometimes went to Elephant Butte lake to swim and cool off. The main beach was down the hill from the church. David Ray and his toybox trailer were just a short walk away from the church. He was arrested in 99, which means he probably had someone captive as we were hanging out at the beach. Crazy.
@@csoph550 that's terrifying. imagine being tortured and tied up and forces to listen to his audio tapes. its really chilling. fucking insane. glad you're safe my god. really makes you wanna hug your loved ones
This sicko
He's an architect. People who are good at math are terrible spellers. The software in his office would have hidden his poor spelling.
Why is his penmanship even important? Why the obsession with whether or not he could spell correctly?
@@justanotherguy469 yeah that's how I felt too. I guess they will grasp at anything that he could use as a defence. Like he didn't write it because it has poor spelling. They must have enough on him regardless. I bet he has more victims than the 6 girls.
@@CandaceMarie. I think there are many more victims. They even found an Asian man, and a baby, in the marshes.
I am just sick of people allowing the MSM to be able to make them think and talk about the things they want them to.
It saddens me that NY does not have capital punishment.
@@justanotherguy469OBVIOUSLY, because they’re trying to build a profile of his character ,
@@dragonzodiac78 No, people are obsessed with his penmanship because media tells them to be. Funny how it took 4 years for Hunter's laptop to be accepted as authentic, but the video of Diddy was immediately accepted as real, even though his face was not clearly defined. But hey, media told us to be outraged. Hunter's face was clear as day, and no outrage!
If media said Rex wipes from back to front, that would be the talk of the town.
6:25 In addition to preferring victims with long brown hair, worn parted in the middle, Ted Bundy also targeted smaller women.
Rex Heuermann is huge, though. Almost any woman in the world would be smaller than him. He must not have wanted them to have ANY chance at all of fighting him.
I'm pretty sure I've worked for at least 3 serial killers and 4 psychopaths in my life.
That's terrifying
I did a legitimate job for a boss whom I later learned was smuggling drugs into the country. He might have been using the legitimate company as a front.
He's not anywhere near top architect in the country.
The lawyer lady that felt she didn’t want to meet Rex alone, she was so wise to trust her sensibilities. I think we “know” things internally without being able to articulate them.
I have a hunch that the male guest has never met Rex.
You do not have to meet someone to communicate.
Why is everyone so hung up over the spelling? I am a professional and my work is riddled with spelling mistakes without spellcheck 😂 I know many highly intelligent people that are terrible at spelling when producing documents.
Because the media is telling them to be. Why did people believe Diddy's abuse of Cassie instantly, in that video, but wait 4 years for the FBI and CIA to authenticate Hunter's laptop before they believed it to be true? Even though the video of Diddy was not clear, and the video of Hunter smoking crack was.
Yah and I’m sure he was excited while typing this out.
It’s a strange thing!
The writing was done ineligibly to throw off anyone searching for these keywords in his data
That sounds like a good explanation.
Misspelling words makes them hard for computer forensic teams to find them via searches. Notice he only mispelled words that an investigator might add to a list of search words a serial killer may have on their computer.
It's also possible he was copying one of the killers he read about in the books he had. One killer was known to deliberately misspell words.
It is terrible for them all. His daughter is beautiful, she is. Nothing worse can ever happen to his wife, and if she is taking part in a movie and receiving money, horrible as it is, maybe inside herself with all she has been through, that this is payback to her for all she has been through, having this awful man as a father to her baby and her husband. It could be silent revenge at a world that has let her down. Nothing worse can happen to her, either in the voice of public opinion, or anywhere. She has no pride left, she has to carry that shame. The daughter must be worried to death, her mother has cancer and this awful man her big daddy is known all over the world for the horrible man he is. It must be terrible, they must think they are watching themselves, that is nature's way of protecting one. It is very unethical but she has nothing to lose. We can only put our heads together on these sites and open up a memorial fund for kids at risk in their name, or a plaque. We the general public won't let the little victims be forgotten, we are lucky it could be one of our's , just by a trick of fate it is somebody else's child. God help them too and their families'.
I believe the whole family is in with him doing all these.
Looking at the clutter in his house could show that he maybe was so controlling to his wife and children that the wife was beaten down mentally by him. He was spending a lot of money on his collections, guns etc, and obviously he gave his wife money to go see her family a lot, which we know now, was to get them out of the way so he could carry on his atrocities.
HIS WIFE is a non-native English speaker … I think SHE wrote the lists that he dictated to her
As a european it amazes me how ur allowed to discuss and have videos about a case before it ever gets to court, interviewing people for their opinons etc, a case would fall apart here and i could get a prison sentence for defamation of character, i do'nt like the american system from this point of view,!! What about innicent until proven guilty.???
Ashleigh,
This is the second excellent interview you have done in a row. Very informative. Very well done!
So concerned with spelling mistakes/typos, yet NewsNation captions are full of errors. It's hard to take them seriously when they currently have a video with "absence" spelled wrong.
Mary, the show's guest, kind of looks like Rex's wife.
Could you imagine waking up next to this guy! 😬
It sounds like an extensive search of that property he wanted to buy might be in order.
What if the bad spelling is actually his wife's? How do we know that she wasn't using his computer/password?
I think she has been drinking and lying it too
"it's really something" --- wow so calm and quite the understatement for those whose lives were slaughtered
Let's try this comment again , I work in the construction industry he sounds exactly like most of our finish carpenters talking about their various jobs ,and most super successful sales people definitely have narcissistic tendencies ..my point not everyone with these characteristics turns into a criminal or serial murderer , I will say it looks like they got the right guy-
We live in a fallen world. We all are capable of doing evil, horrible things. There are pitflalls, trouble, difficulties of all sorts and kinds everywhere. As a society and community be aware and be kind and helpful.
We? Geez..
@@helloitsme9808Right. Not all of us are capable of evil, horrible things. The good, kind people that help others everyday don’t make the news.
A "fallen world???"
In hindsight...everyone is weird. Can't imagine though if it was this weird and horrific.
Speech transcription software can spell properly. I think he misspelled words just to distance himself from the document.
Why is it that woman who worked with him her eyes say he is a monster and she is terrified to say what she knows. Just what I'm picking up.
Crazy they found he invested 2.2 million into a battered womans shelter, Rex was great proponent and resource for troubled women in transition.
When will this man finally go to trial?
They’re still collecting evidence and getting all the details. They continue to learn more about him and his LONG past of crimes and violence. They need to make sure everyone tied to him gets justice. It just tells you how long he’s been at this and how many lives he’s destroyed. You want to get this right, right?
At the earliest 2025
@candice-hw7nb thats right forgot about the family torment part
@@_andre007 late 2025
One of the last comments Banfield spoke was about Rex possibly being in a hurry and excited while writing, possibly leading to the misspellings. I don't know Rex at all. So I can't say this for certain. However on my end, from my own experience, I am a college graduate, currently going to University to become a teacher. I'm autistic, dyslexic, and have ADHD. I say that to let you know that people who are intelligent can have issues with spelling. That is not to toot my own horn. But when I am in a rush, or I'm overly excited, or I'm having issues with my ADHD, my spelling becomes very adolescent in its mistakes. Frequently my scribbled lists to myself, that I know no one else is going to be reading, we'll have huge misspellings. Because I know no one else is going to be seeing it so it doesn't really matter. I've been like that all my life. I know other people who are like that too. It is very likely that that's just his own shorthand or he doesn't care what it's spelling is like because no one else is going to see it and his understanding. That's just my two cents, not tooting my own horn, lol have a blessed day y'all.
Ashly always so sensational . straight to the horror .Dont lead with what was this guy like ,how did he behave around others etc
Zodiac misspelling words was a thing. I think this was done on purpose because he thought no one would fnd it idk
I wouldn't classify him as "one of the top architects in the country" as this guy puts it
In the NY area maybe for consulting with planning but not the whole country of AMERICA. Consider that for a minute. Have you ever left your town? @@ImaOKay522
@@ImaOKay522”credible” “well know go-to-guy” is not the same as a top architect. The design world is big on showcasing innovative and well built designs and don’t hand them out Willy-nilly. I still have yet to see any of his projects that received worthy acclaim even prior to his arrest so no, Not a “top architect”. Architect with his own firm is better suited.
You would be right to not do so. This rex studied architectural technology NOT architecture. That's why he works in building code reinforcement. In NYC than can be lucrative but this guy ain't no big deal designer.
You can go to the head of the class. This rex studied architectural technology NOT. Architecture.
Thank you.... exactly. This guy is not an architect and I don't enjoy seeing architects I know getting this rub for nothing.
I think Rex's misspellings were done on purpose.
Why did he live like he made 20 bucks a day? His house lol. Maybe he was a money saving guy? But wow, like Israel keyes. Very organized. Control
Why do so many Americans keep saying urhm after every other word, it's so annoying?
And they don't say "and". They say "ayend"
Yes it's soo annoying its either uhm and another word that's constantly used is "like"
True but Brits constantly say “Quite” and “Brilliant.” Nearly every English speaker is obsessed with the stupid “Literally.” Man! I hate that effin word.
@@TheBOG3 Well I'm British and never use the word quite and only Brilliant if something actually is which is not very often ,but at least they are actual words,urhm is not and just so unnecessary!🤷
@@kazshaw3945 You’re a rare one then.
Geesh. The entire case gives me chills. So so scary.
Has anyone addressed the listed and also misspelled subject of “Miss-leaders”? Might as well have listed “red herrings”…
I hope his former female colleagues get some mental health support. I would be absolutely sickened, shaken, and definitely in need of talking to a mental health counselor.
Wait...he hasn't been convinced yet, right?
He was writing like that to stop authorities from the searches they may do
the misspelled word is to avoid someone coming behind him and using word search for anything he was doing. the misspelled word would not be detected.
It's pretty bad when the remote guests have much better lighting than the in-studio host.
Check the property out for bodies.
Ya, when he wants to buy the property itself, uh...
They did check the property. First search they dug up his garden
@@angelawatson1594 They mean the property he wanted to buy, not his home.
@@MsJellyBellyLove oh ok. Thanks for clearing that up. What's your take on his spelling mistakes?
@@MsJellyBellyLove could it be that his large fingers hit wrong keys?
3:36 Wow, really a top architect in the country? Sure can't tell that by looking at his house!
Her explanation of his spelling errors is ridiculous.
This news nation lady never changes her clothes.
Imma guess the misspellings were a deliberate smokescreen so he could ensure plausible deniability. Also he may have been trying to make those terms less searchable.
The daughters art work is probably some of the most evil around.
Or the struggling mind of a victim?
This is not journalism.
Is the death penalty available. It must of been frightening for the victims 😢😢
I find it so interesting to hear that RH came back to the office with his daughter to deflate a conflict. Hearing this after the porn drawing from his daughter on Tumbler depicting the crime scenes potentially, it really makes me wonder if he used her as an accomplice. I hope the police thoroughly investigates this new angle.
She could be a victim of his abuse. Have you thought of that? Everyone seems to ignore this fact.
Banfield Persona and Great professionalism are a delight to listen to !
What's up with the magic marker goatee ??
The only thing is that if he was one of the top architects in the country, the side of his own house looked exactly like a crabshack in a run-down beach town.
Either he misspelled on purpose or he is schizophrenic. One of his personalities is an awful speller. But no way did a talk to text program misspell like that.
Great interview, I LOVED their commentary!!!
I believe that his spelling errors are caused by dyslexia
Or drinking it at night
Now they're just interviewing anyone lol
I wanted to hear what Jeffery had to say at the end. You can tell he’s wanting to say something.
The women in that office are so lucky
Katie and Chris know exactly what happened to Sebastian. They went out of town as soon as Sebastian became missing. Every missing child case that the guardians go out of town right away and don't help at all in the search shows they know a whole lot more than what they are saying.
The realestate story sounds like bs. Hes not a top architect in the country. He worked on coding he didnt build
The miss spellings to me seem deliberate especially for some tour-ture it seem he trying to confuse anyone who happens to find it
Wow she look like a younger version of rex now wife
Same thoughts!!
Same. Very similar. Spooky
Thanks to both of Heuermanns colleagues for sharing their experiences working with him. Imagine when they first learned of his arrest. It had to have been quite surreal for them both. It truly sickens me just seeing his face because my first thoughts are just how petrified these poor women were. I can't even imagine feeling that amount of fear not knowing if they were ever going to survive. Im sure its too soon but I'm curious if the courts will allow cameras during the trial or not.
Tool box killer used his daughter to make his victims more comfortable and trusting
So if Rex was a top residential and commercial architect, he had to be at least millionaire. The outside appearance of his Long Island house is unkept and falling apart in a neighborhood of beautiful homes. That could have been a tell-tale sign of where his head wasn't! It's hard to believe that such a brilliant man was such a sicko. I hope he takes a plea deal for life. Just by what was found in his house and his computers, he doesn't stand a chance, although I think he does. His trial would go on for a year, there's so much evidence.
All his money went to call girls
I doubt it was a speech to text mechanism. Why would it give some of those ridiculous spellings in the first place? I also doubt that he was “writing quickly” - the document had separate sections and there was clearly some thought to the plan of how it was structured. My assumption is that he was drunk while writing it. I’m shocked no one suggested that.
WOW , came with his daughter... after todays insights thats alarming
Maybe he should have put his list on his list. As in the list is certainly incriminating
Good interview. These two are very articulate!