Anecdotally this is how most women with autism ive met are like. Pretty calm and relaxed with some social quirks. Not at all like lav, which is why I think she is lying about having autism.
Keeping a spreadsheet of how talkative her former sex-work clients were...and needing to model things. That ending was perfect. She's suspiciously likeable... like, able to become demonic I feel.
@@tiktokexposed898 they were talking about her time as a prostitute. Destiny asked for her take on refusing service base on the race of the person. She laughs about it because that's a question on a game she made. Then she answers that she believes that you can definitely turn down customers solely based on race. Her mic had problems after she said that, Destiny also had to go so the stream ended there.
I commented on her Twitter a long time ago after that horrid Max convo that she's like a feminine Destiny and they should totally get together for a convo. Happy to see it finally happening and I hope they have a lot more talks in the future
Conversations with Aella are always interesting. She offers unique perspectives that tend to be insulated from social norms. Hope to see more collabs with her.
Totally agree about the psychological benefit vs money thing. I think a lot of people feel like they should value money. Sometimes I'll think through a hypothetical trade-off in which I'm offered a lot of money for something, and then I'll think it would be nice to just not be offered at all, and then I think "Just turn it down, you moron!"
28:35 they start talking about this 'alexander' guy? i would like to read into it more but im having difficulty finding his stuff, anyone has a link or something?
I have ADHD, but not autism, though they overlap a bit on behaviors/symptoms. I definitely feel that "activities we don't like." I don't like doing typical, everyday shit like showering, shopping, cleaning, ect. I'm getting better at doing them though.
I've heard of PDA as a autism diagnosis for this behavior, even though it generally describes it to a further extreme, and I wonder if it correlates to adhd as well
I have both but I'm glad I enjoy maintaining hygiene. Especially showering. I have issues on other basic stuff I find boring so I would dread what kinda slob I'd be if it included things like showering.
Also, I suppose I could be more clear: I don't like them because everything to me feels so overwhelming, even when it isn't. I'm not sure how much of that is ADHD and how much of it is how I adjusted to life best I could. Simple things like hygiene, working, eating, going out and even just going to a movie make my mind race. How much time am I spending/wasting is mostly one of the things I think about because I always feel like I need more time to rest. The other thing I grapple with is how inconsequential it all feels. That's catching up to me now. For more complicated things like building skills and such, god, I can't bring myself to stick with anything. I used to be an artsy person, but even looking at shading and coloring makes me think about how much I don't know and it stresses me the fuck out. There are a lot of other things too, but that's just a little bit. I'm rambling now though, so I'll shut up here. Sorry.
@@theclosetedplantlover5524 just did a quick search and it seems like it can affect ADHD people as well. Its an interesting profile. As for myself, I don't think I have PDA. I wouldn't call my avoidance "extreme" or "seemingly rebellious" as some articles put it. I can do em, it just bugs me for some stupid fucking reason
@@Rohtix No need to apologise. I find a lot of what you say relatable and you already have lot of self-knowledge. You just need to want development as a person more than staying comfortable. And one cannot embark on that journey accidentally and you luckily have that prerequisite down since you know a lot about yourself. Stay strong friend.
It's interesting to see Destiny with a clear spectrum case like Aella. He's calmer and his speech pattern becomes less evocative and more literal. This could be unconscious mirroring from a socially adept person or it could be that her literalness jibes with his own spectrum directness and he settles into it. A similar thing happened in conversations with Byron.
If Destiny understand a 3rd person in a sexual relationship will always want more, he must also accept that his actions as immoral. If you know your actions will hurt someone prior to engaging sexually with them than continuing that behavior has to be seen as immoral.
Yeah but then it would end up being like the vegan argument in his eyes. He won’t deprive himself of something that gives him pleasure just for the sake of others.
@@TheLumberjack1987 what’s his new stance? VG just tried to debate him yesterday and from what he was saying in chat Destiny still has the same stance on Veganism. Am I missing a Destiny vegan arc?
@@SleepBeforeYouThink interesting, didn't know about the convo from yesterday. I'm talking about their debate from what was it, 3-4 months ago or so? Steven focused solely on the sentience/intelligence argument and never brought up his (at that point) older argument about "quality of life"/"big sacrifice for almost no gain" arguments even once. I'm happy to hear that he reverted back, as I didn't find the sentience argument very convincing, looking forward to seeing the debate from yesterday!
man she said " I don't enjoy eating" and while I do like food I don't enjoy literally anything about eating... if I could avoid it and just do a supplement patch ide take it....
There's no distinction between "intellectual" vs "visceral" empathy. There's empathy vs sympathy, but empathy only comes from the intellectual act of putting yourself in their shoes. Feeling a response as a result of it bringing up your personal past experience is a trigger, not empathy. Children don't have innate empathy, it comes with their intellectual growth.
Does anyone know where I can find the video of Destiny talking with Nina, the Australian feminist, and her asking if he can send her to Iran to protest?
Talking to a girl on the other side of the world with the most unique and interesting things to say: "Gotcha, anything else?" Talking to a poly girl in cheek clapping distance about the most boring and milktoast relationship, eating, showering and sex shit: "Omg, yeah so cool! how are you thinking about this? this is so fascinating!" Lol
Having Aella on will do more for Destiny's anti misogyny crusade than literally anything else. Hope he continues to have her on as much as possible, she always has very interesting conversations.
I feel like she is larping/attention seeking half of the time, but it just might be my uncharitability. She is 30 years old, what is the purpose of asking "i feel like im doing x from time to time, tho im not sure if its normal, do you that destiny ?", like you are fuckin 30, if you are willing to ask these type of questions to someone you ve just met 5 minutes ago, you sure as hell asked these questions and had these convos with other people throughout your life, it just comes across as like she is trying to highlights she is different, but she doesnt say it directly, she is like "well im doing this anormal thing, but its normal right ? People do that aswell right??", look at the destiny in contrast, he doesnt ask if what he is doing is normal or not, he knows it isnt, he just explains them while being conscious about the rarity of the thing. I just instantly cant stand her.
Made me reflect a little bit, maybe I'm a little sexist but I usually really don't respect like onlyfans girls cuz of how horrible of a person they ususally are but this girl actually seems pretty intelligent, was a good talk
Oh damn this girl is super cool she does a lot of meta commentary in conversations she was on a channel called the stoa a long time ago but I hope he has her on again.
Cheese sticks, probably the most involved food you can eat. Saying you put it in your mouth and don't have to think about it ..ha. You are constantly playing chicken with the grim reaper eating cheese sticks.
"NOOO DESTINY DON'T GET TRICKED BY THIS DEVIOUS HARLOT I HAVE DEDUCED HER ENTIRE LIFE STORY FROM THIS CONVERSATION AND SHE'S EEEEEVIL" - 47,8% of the comments
LMAO this girl doesnt like to shower or eat, IS IT PERHAPS BECAUSE YOU NEVER WORKED A DAY IN YOUR LIFE, AND NEVER GOT SWEATY OR WORKED UP AN APETITE?????? YES, YES IT IS. Have to have this same conversation with my mom all the time. I also hope you understand how rudimentary and banal that thought process is. Most small children will have a similar thought about the need to sleep or brush their teeth.
Chill tf out, I also don't enjoy eating much because ADHD meds kill my appetite. Some people have different mind states than you, no reason to psychoanalyze the shit out of them.
Destiny's most inconsistent moral beliefs is probably his personal justifications for giving his sexual partners maximized autonomy, while simultaneously pooh-poohing AT specifically for putting people in bad situations and allowing those people to take advantage of themselves for his own profit. Internal compulsions and mental illness can drive behavior as much, if not more than environmental forces. Both are bad - and the mental gymnastics D uses fail pretty bad IMO.
Eh I think I see what you mean, but allegedly Tate was using physical force and coercion to get women to do his bidding. I would assume Destiny is being straight up about his intentions and is giving the women an option to leave if its not for them. One is predatory and dangerous, the other is normal human interaction.
@@waduhek5994 If Tate was using force it's a different conversation, but Destiny's arguement didn't cover that. Also, saying that "the other is normal human interaction." Isn't exactly fair. D obviously understands people pretty well, and for him to justify maintaining a sexual relationship with someone who is mentally unwell (and the unwellness oftentimes leads to her specifically hyperfixating on Steven himself) while demonizing Tate for bringing a girl abroad who then has to make the hard choice between working as a cam girl or having to navigate a city alone is pretty hypocritical. (Physical force notwithstanding - haven't heard that yet.) Both are predatory, one is for sexual gratification, the other for financial gain. My point is this: either he needs to maximize autonomy enough to allow people to be predated by their own decisions OR he has to believe that there are people who cannot advocate for themselves thus needing special considerations (ie. the inability to consent based on being in that special class) and that his seeming emotional stability couple with the instability of his partner puts him definitionally in the seat of a predator.
Also, how come this lady looks like Liv Tyler and Evangeline Lilly have another elven princess sister to match? Well, I guess that's the secret of her OnlyFans success
Two showers a month is immoral
yeah, too many
@@notachannle TRUUEEEEE
@@liefhebber6277 Amazing
she's hot enough to pull it off
Loll I saw that tweet last night and of course this happens today
She’s like the reverse Lave. Can we keep her?
As long as she showers more than twice a month
@@BlancoFlaco91 To be fair, it doesn't matter as long as they don't start using smell-a-vision how often she showers
Anecdotally this is how most women with autism ive met are like. Pretty calm and relaxed with some social quirks. Not at all like lav, which is why I think she is lying about having autism.
I like Aella, a lot, shes great to hear from. That being said, get in a shower, bitch.
Ummm she could potentially be racist
Bro, this needed to be way longer. Such interesting conversation.
"interesting conversation" - 6 minutes after a 46 minute video was posted. (I'm joking, it looks like a good convo)
@@iyeet7967 I posted it around 2/3 of the way through, the time is offset from when you start watching but still kinda true.
i agree with scribblestin, interesting conversation. Hope to see another hour or two in a few days :)
yeah it was so good :D
Yeah we need more content of millionaire gamers talking about how interesting their lives are. So interesting.
Never thought I'd see AellaGirl here. Next guest is Jreg confirmed.
I've seen her naked Poggers
Sadly I thought she only existed on Reddit.
but i desperately wanted to
This lady is one of my favorites on reddit.
junior egg will probably just be a troll convo tho
she is literally the perfect guest for Methstiny:
On drugs ✅
poly relationship ✅
factorio enjoyer ✅
The gnome girl meets the gnome, the circle is complete.
Lol the mime hands after her mic cut out.
Wasn't expecting this crossover. Pleasently surprised.
These two were made for each other
i know, this conversation was autistics af. i was almost feeling bad for melina. like shes was gonna lose destiny.
Keeping a spreadsheet of how talkative her former sex-work clients were...and needing to model things. That ending was perfect. She's suspiciously likeable... like, able to become demonic I feel.
That refusing service base on race comment was wild.
@@risenjoker923 what she say? I dont have time to watch the video right now
@@risenjoker923 1. Who’s gonna sue
2. P stars do it all the time
@@tiktokexposed898 they were talking about her time as a prostitute. Destiny asked for her take on refusing service base on the race of the person. She laughs about it because that's a question on a game she made. Then she answers that she believes that you can definitely turn down customers solely based on race. Her mic had problems after she said that, Destiny also had to go so the stream ended there.
@@risenjoker923 why is it wild though? Why do you wanna be with someone that doesn't like you? It doesn't make sense. It's saves everyone time.
She would make a great addition to the DGG orbit. Hope we see more of these chats.
This shouldve been a main channel vid tbh
Aella is the most slept on creator. Glad she's here.
TRUE I actually slept on her WooYea
She is certainly unique I'll give you that. her website is wild but in a good way.
Just another egirl sex worker turned twitch streamer
Nice pun
Did she ask him a challenging question right after he said he'd stop moving during a challenging question to see if he would stop moving?
She totally did
@@leegmoore111 YESS i thought the same thing, like tried to used some complicated term, I loved the whole conversation. She seems super genuine
I commented on her Twitter a long time ago after that horrid Max convo that she's like a feminine Destiny and they should totally get together for a convo. Happy to see it finally happening and I hope they have a lot more talks in the future
She's been on Twitter so long it's crazy seeing this combo
I'd literally bet $100 that they will one day bang lmao
I liked the max convo am I special
Every limited interaction I’ve had with poly people, they’ve always smelt disgustingly bad.
Conversations with Aella are always interesting. She offers unique perspectives that tend to be insulated from social norms. Hope to see more collabs with her.
So what you really mean is you like being vindicated in not showering.
@@FringeSpectre 😂
Sounds like a certain banned person
only 25 minutes in, but so far she's said nothing interesting
@@FringeSpectre pm
easily bored and poly. Why am I not surprised?
Totally agree about the psychological benefit vs money thing. I think a lot of people feel like they should value money. Sometimes I'll think through a hypothetical trade-off in which I'm offered a lot of money for something, and then I'll think it would be nice to just not be offered at all, and then I think "Just turn it down, you moron!"
Poly and plays Factorio? Oh jeez
It's like finding a four leaf clover while being hit by lightning at the exact same time.
If she plays that dumbass rythym game it's all over
I hope Aella comes back, this was interesting ...
That awkward moment when you’re in the shower while listening
She's interesting and intelligent, but my god all I see are red flags
"sex work"
lmao
she is really interesting, I would love to see future conversations with her!
18:30 She was READY with that question!
I really really liked her
That mime ending was a great meme.
I will never forget that MrGirl made her cry.
loved this convo
lmao random AF. I remember Aella sperging out on someone on an MBTI forum years ago cause they mislabeled her
Omg the cliffhanger😂
That's cool you had Aella on. Not heard her voice before but have followed her content
The fucking mime girl? No way
I really like this girl.
I need more Aella and Destiny content like I need air
Stinky, unshowered air 🤌
Me too but I know he's already sexting her now which makes the whole interaction weird. Why does he have to be such a coomer?
28:35 they start talking about this 'alexander' guy? i would like to read into it more but im having difficulty finding his stuff, anyone has a link or something?
two of my favorite internet people
I have ADHD, but not autism, though they overlap a bit on behaviors/symptoms.
I definitely feel that "activities we don't like." I don't like doing typical, everyday shit like showering, shopping, cleaning, ect.
I'm getting better at doing them though.
I've heard of PDA as a autism diagnosis for this behavior, even though it generally describes it to a further extreme, and I wonder if it correlates to adhd as well
I have both but I'm glad I enjoy maintaining hygiene. Especially showering. I have issues on other basic stuff I find boring so I would dread what kinda slob I'd be if it included things like showering.
Also, I suppose I could be more clear:
I don't like them because everything to me feels so overwhelming, even when it isn't. I'm not sure how much of that is ADHD and how much of it is how I adjusted to life best I could.
Simple things like hygiene, working, eating, going out and even just going to a movie make my mind race. How much time am I spending/wasting is mostly one of the things I think about because I always feel like I need more time to rest. The other thing I grapple with is how inconsequential it all feels. That's catching up to me now.
For more complicated things like building skills and such, god, I can't bring myself to stick with anything. I used to be an artsy person, but even looking at shading and coloring makes me think about how much I don't know and it stresses me the fuck out.
There are a lot of other things too, but that's just a little bit.
I'm rambling now though, so I'll shut up here. Sorry.
@@theclosetedplantlover5524 just did a quick search and it seems like it can affect ADHD people as well. Its an interesting profile.
As for myself, I don't think I have PDA. I wouldn't call my avoidance "extreme" or "seemingly rebellious" as some articles put it. I can do em, it just bugs me for some stupid fucking reason
@@Rohtix No need to apologise. I find a lot of what you say relatable and you already have lot of self-knowledge. You just need to want development as a person more than staying comfortable. And one cannot embark on that journey accidentally and you luckily have that prerequisite down since you know a lot about yourself. Stay strong friend.
It's interesting to see Destiny with a clear spectrum case like Aella. He's calmer and his speech pattern becomes less evocative and more literal. This could be unconscious mirroring from a socially adept person or it could be that her literalness jibes with his own spectrum directness and he settles into it. A similar thing happened in conversations with Byron.
I like her. she's pretty cool
Her miming at the end was on point!!!!
Didn't this chick talk to max last year and they had that really uncomfortable convo?
The Gnome and the Gnome Girl finally meet
If Destiny understand a 3rd person in a sexual relationship will always want more, he must also accept that his actions as immoral. If you know your actions will hurt someone prior to engaging sexually with them than continuing that behavior has to be seen as immoral.
Yeah but then it would end up being like the vegan argument in his eyes. He won’t deprive himself of something that gives him pleasure just for the sake of others.
Ah yes I'm sure he meant that there are absolutely no people on this earth that you can ever hook up with who won't try to make it more than it is.
@@SleepBeforeYouThink the problem is that he doesn't really subscribe to that vegan argument anymore, so you can't use that as a consistency argument
@@TheLumberjack1987 what’s his new stance? VG just tried to debate him yesterday and from what he was saying in chat Destiny still has the same stance on Veganism. Am I missing a Destiny vegan arc?
@@SleepBeforeYouThink interesting, didn't know about the convo from yesterday.
I'm talking about their debate from what was it, 3-4 months ago or so?
Steven focused solely on the sentience/intelligence argument and never brought up his (at that point) older argument about "quality of life"/"big sacrifice for almost no gain" arguments even once.
I'm happy to hear that he reverted back, as I didn't find the sentience argument very convincing, looking forward to seeing the debate from yesterday!
man she said " I don't enjoy eating" and while I do like food I don't enjoy literally anything about eating... if I could avoid it and just do a supplement patch ide take it....
the showering part is genuinely disgusting but the incel portion of destinys audience will find some way to justify it because shes a women
I don’t think you know what an incel is.
Apparently this chick might be racist but I guess we'll find out if she keeps coming back on the show
How do you know that?
Nwm. I googled her and her history... yeah, she's probably a racist.
@@beebah90 I was talking about her one comment in this video, what did you find?
I really hope Aella doesn't end up morphing into a demon woman
There's no distinction between "intellectual" vs "visceral" empathy. There's empathy vs sympathy, but empathy only comes from the intellectual act of putting yourself in their shoes. Feeling a response as a result of it bringing up your personal past experience is a trigger, not empathy. Children don't have innate empathy, it comes with their intellectual growth.
Good stuff
This is the most cringe person Destiny has met
This channel>the main channel
why not edit out the technical difficulties?
Does anyone know where I can find the video of Destiny talking with Nina, the Australian feminist, and her asking if he can send her to Iran to protest?
Talking to a girl on the other side of the world with the most unique and interesting things to say: "Gotcha, anything else?"
Talking to a poly girl in cheek clapping distance about the most boring and milktoast relationship, eating, showering and sex shit: "Omg, yeah so cool! how are you thinking about this? this is so fascinating!"
Lol
Aella is the one that mrgirl made cry during their interview, right?
Yes
aella is so fun to listen to
Aella, did you get the record thing from Gödel Escher Bach?
yea
Having Aella on will do more for Destiny's anti misogyny crusade than literally anything else. Hope he continues to have her on as much as possible, she always has very interesting conversations.
Do you reckon they will hook up
I think that was a strategic mute... 👀
She muted in the end on purpose :D
I dont like eating bc i get so bored doing so, and showering makes me bored also
The most inconsistent morality of Density is that he still doesn't play StarCraft.
I feel like she is larping/attention seeking half of the time, but it just might be my uncharitability. She is 30 years old, what is the purpose of asking "i feel like im doing x from time to time, tho im not sure if its normal, do you that destiny ?", like you are fuckin 30, if you are willing to ask these type of questions to someone you ve just met 5 minutes ago, you sure as hell asked these questions and had these convos with other people throughout your life, it just comes across as like she is trying to highlights she is different, but she doesnt say it directly, she is like "well im doing this anormal thing, but its normal right ? People do that aswell right??", look at the destiny in contrast, he doesnt ask if what he is doing is normal or not, he knows it isnt, he just explains them while being conscious about the rarity of the thing.
I just instantly cant stand her.
Cliffhanger of '23.
She's literally Destiny if he actually was a woman wtf
Actually?
Jesus Christ where do u find these people
Made me reflect a little bit, maybe I'm a little sexist but I usually really don't respect like onlyfans girls cuz of how horrible of a person they ususally are but this girl actually seems pretty intelligent, was a good talk
Yea, it's all about demographic. OnlyFans may have a higher percentage of "cali-girls" but you can't know they're like that until you talk to them.
That's not sexist lmao.
would love for steve to talk to her again
Think it matters how active the person is. Clean the stink spots and I doubt anybody would notice if didn't mention it
8 minutes in and I love her please dont be crazy
edit: ok she is crazy but not in a bad way
that's what a lot of people said about the last fist full of nuts as well
It’s a trick question. Destiny does not have a moral framework. He just has a creepy system of ethics.
@@TubeWusel I watched the video while telling you I watched the video.
Oh damn this girl is super cool she does a lot of meta commentary in conversations she was on a channel called the stoa a long time ago but I hope he has her on again.
Cheese sticks, probably the most involved food you can eat. Saying you put it in your mouth and don't have to think about it ..ha. You are constantly playing chicken with the grim reaper eating cheese sticks.
"NOOO DESTINY DON'T GET TRICKED BY THIS DEVIOUS HARLOT I HAVE DEDUCED HER ENTIRE LIFE STORY FROM THIS CONVERSATION AND SHE'S EEEEEVIL" - 47,8% of the comments
This is a special person
Killer crossover
She's the girl from Mallrats, in real life. Trish the Dish
But... Do you think you could handle Vilkas in a REAL fight?
Me listening to this conversation: I think I'm autistic
Yo she's that lady from the reasontv interview
Did Destiny and Aaron Ra both dye their hair blue at the same time?
that was interesting, it would be nice if she became an orbiter
Mods need to ban that shit
Mr. Girl already send an email I bet lol
She blocked MrGirl after the convo.
If i get along with autistic people so much better then with normal people does that mean i am one of them or that it is literally easier?
LMAO this girl doesnt like to shower or eat, IS IT PERHAPS BECAUSE YOU NEVER WORKED A DAY IN YOUR LIFE, AND NEVER GOT SWEATY OR WORKED UP AN APETITE?????? YES, YES IT IS. Have to have this same conversation with my mom all the time. I also hope you understand how rudimentary and banal that thought process is. Most small children will have a similar thought about the need to sleep or brush their teeth.
Chill tf out, I also don't enjoy eating much because ADHD meds kill my appetite. Some people have different mind states than you, no reason to psychoanalyze the shit out of them.
Destiny's most inconsistent moral beliefs is probably his personal justifications for giving his sexual partners maximized autonomy, while simultaneously pooh-poohing AT specifically for putting people in bad situations and allowing those people to take advantage of themselves for his own profit.
Internal compulsions and mental illness can drive behavior as much, if not more than environmental forces.
Both are bad - and the mental gymnastics D uses fail pretty bad IMO.
That said, this video was really enjoyable to listen to. 🤷♂️
Eh I think I see what you mean, but allegedly Tate was using physical force and coercion to get women to do his bidding. I would assume Destiny is being straight up about his intentions and is giving the women an option to leave if its not for them. One is predatory and dangerous, the other is normal human interaction.
@@waduhek5994
If Tate was using force it's a different conversation, but Destiny's arguement didn't cover that.
Also, saying that "the other is normal human interaction." Isn't exactly fair. D obviously understands people pretty well, and for him to justify maintaining a sexual relationship with someone who is mentally unwell (and the unwellness oftentimes leads to her specifically hyperfixating on Steven himself) while demonizing Tate for bringing a girl abroad who then has to make the hard choice between working as a cam girl or having to navigate a city alone is pretty hypocritical. (Physical force notwithstanding - haven't heard that yet.) Both are predatory, one is for sexual gratification, the other for financial gain.
My point is this: either he needs to maximize autonomy enough to allow people to be predated by their own decisions OR he has to believe that there are people who cannot advocate for themselves thus needing special considerations (ie. the inability to consent based on being in that special class) and that his seeming emotional stability couple with the instability of his partner puts him definitionally in the seat of a predator.
Bingo
Is this the showers fortnightly person?
Weird. Feels like watching two people on an awkward date.
Also, how come this lady looks like Liv Tyler and Evangeline Lilly have another elven princess sister to match? Well, I guess that's the secret of her OnlyFans success
Aella got dogwalked in her debate with Louise Perry a few months back. It wasn’t even close lol
Prediction: She will be at the center of orbiter drama before the end of the year. Quote me on this.
She's a 10 but she plays facto... wait...
hot crazy matrix: yes
The fact that destiny calls out evil fossil for his parasocial relationship probably just reinforces his delusions even harder LOL
It's weird because he actually signals to me all the time on stream, but I'm not "parasocial"
I hope she makes Destiny go down the rationalist rabbithole at some point.
Last time I saw this woman she was being interviewed from the bathtub.