Wait Dave Rubin was right. Even if they do it by weight class men still are much stronger at the same weight than women. They have better muscle quality. It's nonsense to not segregate by gender.
And of course he has no problem with Mehdi Hasan spewing his antisemitic nonsense. I should have know the moment when he tried to counter all the good arguments against transwomen in women's sports with some nitpicks.
@mintymilkk Many watching might not have known what Pi was in digits, this wasn't brought up in the video. Your comment added less than the one your replying to
@@mintymilkk Cool I know dimits need reiterating 👍🏻 Especially since half this comment section didn’t know but way to project yourself onto everyone else since you have no concept of theory of mind
Piers had my Ivy engineer ass literally second guessing Pythagoras for a second.. This explains how his guests get so discombobulated. When you're confronted by a confident enough blustering idiot your brain just resets
Piers won the Apprentice and Trump called him a very smart man on the fake reality show, it was the first time piers was ever praised and hes been rock hard for Trump ever since
Lol but do u remember a while ago Colbert made fun of republicans and Jon Stewart it has always been that way. It's just different now since yalls ideology has proven ineffective
@@Threelegs94 Colbert and Jon Stewart were not media people like Piers and have different responsibilities. Also, they pretended to be something they were not and owned upto their beliefs. I'm not a fan of either of them and don't watch them or American stuff a lot anyways. But seemingly I still have better comprehension of the matter and information than you even though I'm an Indian.
We've known there was a problem the whole time. Piers Morgan is Fox News 2.0 in all aspects, but he gets to claim he's non-partisan, even though everyone knows it's a troll, including himself.
As a bisexual trans man (meaning I was assigned female at birth) I wanted to express my agreement with Destiny on his opinion that trans rights have moved at an accelerated path compared to gay rights. Even though trans people have always existed just as gay people have always existed, at least when it comes to the U.S., gay rights are much easier to understand and thus were much easier to enter into the cultural zeitgeist. Trans issues being a mainstream topic is such a recent phenomenon, and have made incredible progress in that time. The history of the gay rights movement, especially with trans influence being there from the beginning, has absolutely contributed to that acceleration.
The funniest part was when I heard Piers say "These debates are great because we can get down into the nitty gritty", then in the same convo kept pivoting it to different topics that were addressed at barely a surface level.
It's derived from "mugging" someone as in robbing them (circa 1864), if you were "mugged" you were made a fool of. Then later just the term "mug" became slang for idiot eg "you're such a mug". Eventually it became slang that if you "mugged someone off" you made them look like an idiot. So someone "mugging themselves off" means they made a fool of themselves. It's always been a very informal very cockney kind of slang, you wouldn't expect to hear it north of London/the Midlands really. It speaks a lot to who they're aiming the show at to use that kind of phrasing too.
I perked up when I saw this in my feed. Piers doesn't fight fair because he ALWAYS panders to the two MAGA guests on the panel, no matter how compelling the liberal argument. He's like a biased referee, and this formula has become extremely predictable and repetitive as a result. Frankly I'm just bored with it. Piers has lost all credibility with me, even when it comes to things that I might actually agree with him about. I just think he's alienated a large portion of his audience with this strategy.
You are part of the problem. Saying you’ll now distrust or disagree with him even if something you agree with.. just because its him. What a sloppy and lazy way to think
@TheHunt-t8o Um yeah, so I'm gonna to have to go ahead and channel my inner Bill Lumbergh here by respectfully disagreeing with you on all counts. And I'm gonna need you to uh, go ahead and come in on Saturday too. Whenever I see anyone point to someone else and accuse them of being part of the problem, I have to wonder if they are just projecting their own toxicity onto others, but I really don't want to spend a lot of time fixating on that comment, it is what it is. Anyway, when a man with the notoriety and reach of a Piers Morgan conducts his platform in such an obviously bad faith manor, he is going to lose some credibility with a portion of his audience, and subsequently any good faith arguments that he might present ought to be scrutinized with a fine tooth comb. Just ask anyone who has ever been cheated on by their spouse if they could ever again be able to trust anything that the cheater has to say without questioning their motives, even something as simple as, 'Oh yeah, I took out the trash.' The very fundamentals of credibility rest upon this basic principle. This is why we have criminal records and credit scores. And I'm really glad you brought this up, because it sheds direct light on the very problem that I was trying to point out about Piers: His hiding in plain sight by calling himself a liberal, then turning right around and vehemently cheerleading the conservative panelists, while simultaneously interrupting and devaluing the liberal panelists. Wash, rinse, repeat. It's not even a fair fight. Sometimes this can be entertaining, but any way you slice it, it's just bad journalism, and gets old fast. And Piers does this with literally every panel. These are the kinds of red flags we ought to be paying attention to, so we do not find ourselves being manipulated by bad actors who might have nepharious or self-serving agendas, kinda like, gee I dunno....Trump? When it appears so blatantly obvious that the host is not playing fair, it means that he's probably not playing fair. So yeah, if I happen to agree with him on something, I'm probably going to question his motives from here on out. I'd be a fool not to. So no, I don't believe this to be a lazy or unenlightened perspective at all. The word you were probably looking for was diligent? Or better yet, awesome? Yeah, I like awesome. Let's go with that....
@josephtuttle Yep! Like a backwards programmed computer, Piers is programmed no different than JRogan, RBrand, RBarr and all the others with the mountains of anti Biden/Harris content and ambiguous to positives about Trump. Morgan is a character playing roles and can’t be trusted to be fair whatsoever
Ok I watched the video, but the fact that Destiny doesn't think Piers' smugness and his faux outrage and voice aren't the 3 biggest problems above all else is wrong.
I hate when Destiny goes on random tangents with no context that end up in these videos. I do not watch the videos. I listen to these as podcasts while in the car or at work. I listened to the phase transition tangent at the start and still have no context. I thought this video was about online debates and piers morgan.
This channel does that. You'll find more "focused" content and videos on the Destiny main channel. This channel is more about broad stuff and is less edited down, so you get some of the stream rambles.
Yes wish whoever shits these out put in the slightest effort and cut out random tangents. Not watching this shit when it’s something Else than the thumb+title stated.
Something i have noticed very recently is that left wing people will call anyone to the right of them “right wing”. Its very peculiar. Just the other day i saw hasan call destiny right wing, and when i pushed back in a comment, his fans SWARMED me with why destiny is definitely 100% right wing. Now here, i see destiny agreeing with this guy that peer morgan is definitely “right wing”. I have heard destiny say before that he believes all centrists are actually right wing but it seems a bit extreme to me
Its even worse for Destiny imo cause its pretty much if you agree wih ANYTHING Trump says or disagree with someone in the Democrat party, you are called a right wing MAGA traitor. Since Trumps assassination attempt Destiny has completely turned to only rhetoric, and bad faith interpretations of ANYONE to the 'right' of him. He and his fans call centrists MAGA supporters, its all rhetoric and about being on one of two sides for them. Destiny thinks jes objectively right, when at the end of the day it's just about preferences and their side winning
@@UltraEgoMc Indeed, Pierce is quite clearly a Centrist, he's only pitting Leftists against Maga at a 1:3 ratio, which clearly is on par with the ratio of intelligence between the 2 sides. If he were truly Right-wing, he'd up that ratio to at least 1:5, like good ol' Tim Pool
The statistics conversation confused me a bit because the person who emailed him said the kind of relationships they were talking about was "linear" but everything in their argument like the car example would still hold if the relationship were exponentially increasing or increasing at some other rate other than linear. Wouldn't what they really meant be "monotonically increasing" relationships?
I run into trans people a few times a week (that I notice), but they're always just been going about their day. Never seen a trans person being a freak.
19:15 Just if anyone's curious, most wrestling K-12 is intramural, but that's because there haven't been many girls wrestling. They tend to win up until puberty but only sometimes continue to wrestle in highschool. I had one girl on my team and I had one match against a girl in highschool, in like third grade I wrestled a girl and got absolutely demolished. This has been changing recently though and I'm pretty sure there are some colleges with female wrestling teams now so high school programs are popping up as well. Wrestling is a dying sport so hopefully incorporating male and female wrestling programs could help revive it a little bit.
The narrator is right about piers but many of his own commentary applies to himself specifically at the end at like 49:20 when talking about Israel Palestine the narrator has a clear pro Palestine bias.He is right that piers is actually decent about asking tough questions which he does to both sides like the famous what should’ve been done post October 7th but the narrator only clipped one side. The narrator also like piers clearly entertains bad actors like mehdi (Qatari funded) and norm(dggers well aware) who in this very video call Israel non democratic and run by fascists(just idiotically bad takes) who aren’t much any better then piers on this topic in fact many are worse but the narrator agrees with them showing he’s no better
"Bias" in colloquial language typically means an unconscious or irrational preference or prejudice - there's nothing inherently wrong with taking a clear stance or being unambiguous about your position
i give piers credit for his ability to audience capture. he knows what people want, people don’t want educated, fact checked convos they want political theater. can’t blame him too much.
32:53 to be fair to Piers, when he says that he's a "liberal", I think he means in the context of America's Overton window. In Britain Piers would be a conservative, but in the US he'd be considered Liberal. He's said multiple times that he would support a total ban on guns in the US for example, and he also would want for America to have Medicare for all. Both of these positions would be considered Far-Left/Progressive in the US, so calling him a "right winger" isn't very nuanced. His personal friendship with Trump and his experience of being cancelled in Britain for woke-related reasons seems to have brainrotted him a little bit, but I still think it's relatively fair for him to call himself a liberal in the context of the US.
That is still in balance with all his other current takes, which at the very least give you ample reason to doubt just how Liberal he even is these days. The thing is, most people can have a few opinions of the other side, but you generally gauge their allegiance in balance with the majority of their views (and their actual imact). If Pierce provably, for a long time now, clearly favors his Republican guests at the expense of his Democrat guests, you can at least suspect he's flirting with the MAGA movement (much like Cenk, just in different ways)
Not a fan of short form content, it's candy vs steak. However, it is a fundamental mistake to assume that this format inherently benefits the 'Right wing'. It fundamentally benefits the side with the SIMPLER ARGUMENT. On many topics, right now, it will end up benefiting the right, because, for example, you've got Neil De'Grase Tyson with his nonsensical theoretical notion on how it could EVER be fair to have men competing against women directly in sports vs Riley Gaines... instant slam dunk. There are probably a few specific issues that wind up benefiting the left as well, but the short form format will always benefit the easier to understand argument. Long story short: JRE, Lex Fridman, and Bridges FTW!
the wrestling thing is funny to me because here in Louisiana, we also have mixed football. Like there aren't a lot of girls who play football so they just play with the boys, which is why when I saw girls wrestling it surprised me more that she was winning, not that there were boys wrestling against her.
32:22 it's stuff like this right here that reinforces why Destiny is so insistent on always going to the source material for making any substantive claim. Because this game of dumb telephone happens where we get a spurious claim from one guy who got cited in a U.N. sanctioned report and all of a sudden it's "UN reports thousands of medals being lost to trans athletes!!" This is cherry-picking at its worst: overstate, intentionally misunderstand and twist the claims of one or a few, and confuse the populace by conflating them with the ruling or reporting of a much larger and more credible source.
Debate should be about an exchange amount of ideas and the viewers learning somehting. But I think it is just about who’s a better debater most of the time.
I mean, Piers Morgan Uncensored is not a debate, it's a shit slinging contest. Piers does almost no moderation on when he does he usually doea to dunk in the liberals/leftist. It's a joke.
@ I actually like the show a lot it’s entertaining but I agree it’s not a debate. Not at all. I was commenting more on Destiny’s overall debate take. He agrees winning a debate is more about who’s debating but thinks that’s a good thing. I think that defeats the purpose of debate. If you’re winning a debate bc you’re good at debate and not because your side of the topic is the better side it doesn’t mean much. His sports comparisons were silly to me, it’s not analogous. In sports all we care about is who’s the best, the winner is the best. In debate we want the better issue to win out not the better debater to always win.
@nickwiener8729 sure thing, it's a well-known fact that in debate you can have a "correct" viewppint and still "lose" in the eyes of the audience because you presented your views in an unconvincing way while your opponent presented a very convincing "lie"
Piers is not only player in his own show by participating in the discussion, but also the (biased) refferee. Why would you participate in such a show, being left-winged?
41:04 The accelerated timeline is so indicative of the hyperonline battlefield on which trans issues are fought. It's been very bad for the coherance of this and many movements.
It annoys me that Destiny just memoryholes how rabid the Left was about language-policing (“cancellation”) and chalks it up to Piers Morgan/conservatives just drumming things up that never existed. The Left hasn’t even moved past this type of behavior on an ideological basis, they are just aware the strategy is ineffective. It’s as if - in brief moments - he forgets that sometimes his own normalness is fringe within his party rather than the mainstream.
@ You don’t really know who I talk to, lil bro. 😤 I’m not so sure about that, but it also depends on what and who we’re talking about: the average normie out in the real world who describes themself as left-wing but is realistically apolitical? Sure, they’re normal - and this type of person is probably the largest category of any political group. But generally, when we refer to political factions (“the Left”, for example) we are referring to a set of the population that is inherently more political than that. With that in mind, I think the Left largely either believes in these types of things, but has merely given up on them - or at minimum condones them. Reasonable people can disagree about the state of these things today, but in the time I’m talking about - much of the mid and late 2010s - left-wing culture as a whole was definitely in that place.
9:16 "In feb, he moved the entire show to UA-cam" No, the TV channel the show was on got nuked due to near 0 viewers, so he moved along with the rest of talktv. 40:08 Based!
The first 5 minutes of every video proves that August knows how to edit, the final 99% of every video proves he's too lazy to ever be capable of doing his job properly, never gonna change
I think I'm with Brianna Wu on this one. Granted, her characterization could certainly have been far more charitable, but trans-women have a difficult enough time getting people to respect their identity *after* transition. Expecting people to respect a trans-person's pre-transition gender identity was totally untenable in 2014. Even now, "gender reassignment" and "transition" are terms that clearly imply going from one gender to another. If that trans lady had done more to shield Piers from public backlash and restate their criticisms in a much gentler manner, Brianna might not have to be trying to run damage control today. It's a tall ask -- you basically have to take shit from some Twitter warriors who may call you a pickme because you're coddling a grown ass man who made them feel insulted. But when that man is a media pundit with a sizeable following and he's professing to be your ally, you should probably suck it up and hold his hand. It definitely seems to me that trans advocates would have benefitted a lot more by arguing for patience and understanding. That said, I imagine it probably looked a lot different from inside those spaces. Especially if the hate was even *worse* ten years ago
Anyone else hate when Destiny speeds up the videos he's watching? Like mf I have your video sped up, wtf are they saying? If you're gonna take someone else's video, at least watch it on normal speed.
This was like watching a fever dream at 2x speed. My favorite part was when the video tries to say trn. athletes had nothing to do with the election and then went down a level 14 rabbit hole to explain why Piers is indeed anti-Trns. It is this reactionary behavior-not the issue itself-that lost democrats the election. But on a macro scale. I wonder if they will ever realize it?
Deadnaming your mom is wild, but only because it's unnatural to talk about her in the past with her then sername in any contex. When you say Mrs. Ranthrough played the violin, you are identifying her as her present self doing an action in the past because that's how english works. Mr. Deadname doesn't exist to refer to as having done something in the past, unless you transfobicly or incorrectly believe that Mr. Deadname died and you are refering to them using their last known information. Ms. Name is Ms. Name now, and her past actions can be attributed to Ms. Name since that's the last know information to refer to her with. Mrs. Ranthrough dropped out of highschool connects the past to the present in a useful and clear way. Ms.Beautiful isn't an accurate way to describe your mom anymore.
The biggest problem is that he’s British. We have enough conservatives peddling misinformation as is and the LAST thing I need is the political opinions of a Brit influencing how the people in MY country feel. Get your own political drama lil bro, it’s not my fault your country is boring asl.
It's not that he's British, it's that he has double standards. For example, he lets conservative commentators yap without interruption while liberal commentators get interrupted when Piers doesn't want his audience to know the facts
You do realise the main 3 White Populations of the US are of British 10%, Irish 10% & German 12% decent right? What language do you speak? What legal system were your 1st Laws based on? You know George Washington was a Brit too right? The Newly Rich in America just didn't wanna send Taxes back to England anymore...where they were from...
Yea, noticing this a while back, I can't watch him. It's just too annoying and broken and Piers thinks he is a journalist. As someone who was and was literally on the ground, a guy who just do this claiming to be a journalist while openly admitting how biased he is would be the exact opposite.
I hate this argument on sports. Stop trying to dismiss the issue as fringe and not important. The perceived unfairness of it is just too obvious. People care about it because it says something about the people defending it. This issue only managed to reach this point BECAUSE there are enough people in positions of power and influence who accept this insanity. The issue is important enough for activists to change how the olimpic games operate. And why is it bad for Republicans to press Democrats on this? If you compare how much time was spent talking about issues, the left spent WAY MORE time lying about project 2025 and claiming Trump would sign a national abortion ban. Do you know the difference? Trump was clear and denied both allegations in multiple interviews. Kamala Harris never stated a clear change in her position on trans issues AND other leftist social issues she defended before.
And of course he has no problem with Mehdi Hasan spewing his antisemitic nonsense. I should have know the moment when he tried to counter all the good arguments against transwomen in women's sports with some nitpicks.
Wait Dave Rubin was right. Even if they do it by weight class men still are much stronger at the same weight than women. They have better muscle quality. It's nonsense to not segregate by gender.
The problem is that Dave has a barely rudimentary understanding of topics he chooses to talk about which leads to him being unable to meaningfully discuss them. Sam Harris and Destiny both have a similar thought about this in general in that you shouldn’t care wether you agree with someone’s stance on a topic but rather wether their method of arriving at the conclusion is sound. In Dave Rubin’s case he is an obvious hack with a lackluster method of arriving at his conclusions which leads to him embarrassing himself even on topics where I would probably agree with his conclusion.
The whole bit about platforming a nazi. I’ve never been a fan of Dan but seeing this clip of him still changes my opinion for the negative. If I never saw this clip I would have just thought he was poker douche. Now we know 😂 I don’t think that’s a bad thing. If you watch that and agree with Dan, you’re a lost cause anyway.
He isn’t even a legit poker player and probably never was. Most of his wealth was a result of inheritance and his original claim to fame was basically being a non-political Andrew Tate in that he was famous because of the perception of him as rich with a fun lifestyle surrounded by women
Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu does have belts. You just don't typically wear a belt in noGi (sometimes you wear a gi Sometimes you don't). It's also super common for men and women to roll together in training. You practice with the people at your gym. You don't perfectly scope out your exact match. The guy who came up to him afterwards was Craig Jones and his gym /team. Kind of has a reputation for injuring people who don't tap or go too hard, so it's not shocking that that would happen when he's around
I think yall wrong, thanks to Destiny's manipulation, I have made this more avout teams 😂😂😂 its about how the tale end of yalls ideology has been proven innefective
Men vs. women doesn't happen. Currently, the weight classes for men are distributed between 57 and 130 kg body weight. For women, there are weight classes in the range of 48 to 75 kg. There are seven weight classes for women and men each.
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Wait Dave Rubin was right. Even if they do it by weight class men still are much stronger at the same weight than women. They have better muscle quality. It's nonsense to not segregate by gender.
And of course he has no problem with Mehdi Hasan spewing his antisemitic nonsense. I should have know the moment when he tried to counter all the good arguments against transwomen in women's sports with some nitpicks.
Piers thinks Pi is Pythagoras theorem AND he got the digits wrong
Yeah but do _you_ know shakespeares first movie?
thanks for re-explaining exactly what i just saw and listened to in the exact same way it occured
@mintymilkk Many watching might not have known what Pi was in digits, this wasn't brought up in the video. Your comment added less than the one your replying to
@@Theactivepsychos”Birth of a Nation” I didn’t even have to Google it
@@mintymilkk Cool I know dimits need reiterating 👍🏻 Especially since half this comment section didn’t know but way to project yourself onto everyone else since you have no concept of theory of mind
Piers had my Ivy engineer ass literally second guessing Pythagoras for a second..
This explains how his guests get so discombobulated. When you're confronted by a confident enough blustering idiot your brain just resets
IKR 😭
Piers won the Apprentice and Trump called him a very smart man on the fake reality show, it was the first time piers was ever praised and hes been rock hard for Trump ever since
Still yet to see a conservative who didn't give off massive bottom energy
It's so digusting how hard Piers defends Republicans while attacking Democrats
Pretty nuts how he also claims to be a liberal while doing so. xD
Lol but do u remember a while ago Colbert made fun of republicans and Jon Stewart it has always been that way. It's just different now since yalls ideology has proven ineffective
kind of like the inverse of destiny LMAO, you people lack so much self awareness 🤡🤡🤡
@@Threelegs94 Colbert and Jon Stewart were not media people like Piers and have different responsibilities. Also, they pretended to be something they were not and owned upto their beliefs. I'm not a fan of either of them and don't watch them or American stuff a lot anyways. But seemingly I still have better comprehension of the matter and information than you even though I'm an Indian.
It’s disgusting how you cry when your cult gets attacked
We've known there was a problem the whole time. Piers Morgan is Fox News 2.0 in all aspects, but he gets to claim he's non-partisan, even though everyone knows it's a troll, including himself.
As a bisexual trans man (meaning I was assigned female at birth) I wanted to express my agreement with Destiny on his opinion that trans rights have moved at an accelerated path compared to gay rights. Even though trans people have always existed just as gay people have always existed, at least when it comes to the U.S., gay rights are much easier to understand and thus were much easier to enter into the cultural zeitgeist. Trans issues being a mainstream topic is such a recent phenomenon, and have made incredible progress in that time. The history of the gay rights movement, especially with trans influence being there from the beginning, has absolutely contributed to that acceleration.
The most disgusting thing about this topic is Destiny's pronunciation of linear
I've never heard any college-educated person pronounce it differently
@@zyto7904I’ve never heard anyone pronounce it Lin-ear…
@zyto7904 everyone says lin-e-ar no one says linyeer like Steven, it is kinda annoying indeed 😅😅
Edit: he checked it, thank God lol
@@zyto7904then you are not college educated and do not know anyone college educated I guess, cause no one pronounces it “Lin-ear.”
@@zyto7904 listen to me you are a dumb weeb you are inferior I am superior
The funniest part was when I heard Piers say "These debates are great because we can get down into the nitty gritty", then in the same convo kept pivoting it to different topics that were addressed at barely a surface level.
mugs himself off is such an amazing British term lol
I'm struggling to work out what it even means 😂
It's derived from "mugging" someone as in robbing them (circa 1864), if you were "mugged" you were made a fool of.
Then later just the term "mug" became slang for idiot eg "you're such a mug".
Eventually it became slang that if you "mugged someone off" you made them look like an idiot.
So someone "mugging themselves off" means they made a fool of themselves.
It's always been a very informal very cockney kind of slang, you wouldn't expect to hear it north of London/the Midlands really.
It speaks a lot to who they're aiming the show at to use that kind of phrasing too.
Every time Destiny goes on Piers Morgan he should where an outrageous outfit like Pordan Jeterson!
I perked up when I saw this in my feed. Piers doesn't fight fair because he ALWAYS panders to the two MAGA guests on the panel, no matter how compelling the liberal argument. He's like a biased referee, and this formula has become extremely predictable and repetitive as a result. Frankly I'm just bored with it. Piers has lost all credibility with me, even when it comes to things that I might actually agree with him about. I just think he's alienated a large portion of his audience with this strategy.
You are part of the problem. Saying you’ll now distrust or disagree with him even if something you agree with.. just because its him. What a sloppy and lazy way to think
@TheHunt-t8o Um yeah, so I'm gonna to have to go ahead and channel my inner Bill Lumbergh here by respectfully disagreeing with you on all counts. And I'm gonna need you to uh, go ahead and come in on Saturday too. Whenever I see anyone point to someone else and accuse them of being part of the problem, I have to wonder if they are just projecting their own toxicity onto others, but I really don't want to spend a lot of time fixating on that comment, it is what it is. Anyway, when a man with the notoriety and reach of a Piers Morgan conducts his platform in such an obviously bad faith manor, he is going to lose some credibility with a portion of his audience, and subsequently any good faith arguments that he might present ought to be scrutinized with a fine tooth comb. Just ask anyone who has ever been cheated on by their spouse if they could ever again be able to trust anything that the cheater has to say without questioning their motives, even something as simple as, 'Oh yeah, I took out the trash.' The very fundamentals of credibility rest upon this basic principle. This is why we have criminal records and credit scores. And I'm really glad you brought this up, because it sheds direct light on the very problem that I was trying to point out about Piers: His hiding in plain sight by calling himself a liberal, then turning right around and vehemently cheerleading the conservative panelists, while simultaneously interrupting and devaluing the liberal panelists. Wash, rinse, repeat. It's not even a fair fight. Sometimes this can be entertaining, but any way you slice it, it's just bad journalism, and gets old fast. And Piers does this with literally every panel. These are the kinds of red flags we ought to be paying attention to, so we do not find ourselves being manipulated by bad actors who might have nepharious or self-serving agendas, kinda like, gee I dunno....Trump? When it appears so blatantly obvious that the host is not playing fair, it means that he's probably not playing fair. So yeah, if I happen to agree with him on something, I'm probably going to question his motives from here on out. I'd be a fool not to. So no, I don't believe this to be a lazy or unenlightened perspective at all. The word you were probably looking for was diligent? Or better yet, awesome? Yeah, I like awesome. Let's go with that....
@josephtuttle
Yep! Like a backwards programmed computer, Piers is programmed no different than JRogan, RBrand, RBarr and all the others with the mountains of anti Biden/Harris content and ambiguous to positives about Trump. Morgan is a character playing roles and can’t be trusted to be fair whatsoever
surprised to see destiny reacting jose, he’s got some good content this is great
The leftie bridge is being rebuilt, nature is healing 🥰🥰
In a time line where destiny teaches incredibly sincere explanation on trans issues while being banned for exact subject with zero foundation
Ok I watched the video, but the fact that Destiny doesn't think Piers' smugness and his faux outrage and voice aren't the 3 biggest problems above all else is wrong.
I hate when Destiny goes on random tangents with no context that end up in these videos. I do not watch the videos. I listen to these as podcasts while in the car or at work. I listened to the phase transition tangent at the start and still have no context. I thought this video was about online debates and piers morgan.
Cool story
These are taken from his streams
This channel does that. You'll find more "focused" content and videos on the Destiny main channel. This channel is more about broad stuff and is less edited down, so you get some of the stream rambles.
Yes wish whoever shits these out put in the slightest effort and cut out random tangents. Not watching this shit when it’s something Else than the thumb+title stated.
Wait what part of this video was a random tangent?
Very creative thumbnail
I'm so here for the non linear parameters email. And dunking on Ruben.
Before you dig into a platform pitting dems and reps in the same space allowing audience capture and piercing of the echochamber HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE.
Something i have noticed very recently is that left wing people will call anyone to the right of them “right wing”. Its very peculiar.
Just the other day i saw hasan call destiny right wing, and when i pushed back in a comment, his fans SWARMED me with why destiny is definitely 100% right wing.
Now here, i see destiny agreeing with this guy that peer morgan is definitely “right wing”.
I have heard destiny say before that he believes all centrists are actually right wing but it seems a bit extreme to me
Its even worse for Destiny imo cause its pretty much if you agree wih ANYTHING Trump says or disagree with someone in the Democrat party, you are called a right wing MAGA traitor.
Since Trumps assassination attempt Destiny has completely turned to only rhetoric, and bad faith interpretations of ANYONE to the 'right' of him. He and his fans call centrists MAGA supporters, its all rhetoric and about being on one of two sides for them. Destiny thinks jes objectively right, when at the end of the day it's just about preferences and their side winning
The most left wing take he's had as of recent agreeing to defend Ukraine, beyond that :/
Destiny Fans probably: But Destiny is right and Piers really IS on the right.
Yeah it seems like your waking up rn.
@@UltraEgoMc Indeed, Pierce is quite clearly a Centrist, he's only pitting Leftists against Maga at a 1:3 ratio, which clearly is on par with the ratio of intelligence between the 2 sides.
If he were truly Right-wing, he'd up that ratio to at least 1:5, like good ol' Tim Pool
I'm gonna do the maiden name thing to my sister. "Hey, remember when you were a Williams, and you did this thing?" 😂
I know all the digits of the piethagorean theorem. Bow before me, dgg!
YES, NEVER TELL THEM, THE DIGIT IS 2!
Destiny needs to start clowning Piers
mehdi hassan is great at calling out piers' bs
Why is he pointing like that
Slimy debate tactics is what destiny uses each strean
The statistics conversation confused me a bit because the person who emailed him said the kind of relationships they were talking about was "linear" but everything in their argument like the car example would still hold if the relationship were exponentially increasing or increasing at some other rate other than linear. Wouldn't what they really meant be "monotonically increasing" relationships?
“ONLY a few years”
😂😂
The trans issue is so confusing to me. I don’t know why people talk about it so much. I’ve literally never even seen a trans person irl
You must be living in some podunk town. That being said it is a pretty niche topic that extremes on both sides weaponize for their own benefit.
@@sathrielsatanson666ironic that podunk towns are the places which complain the most about trans people
where do you live partner
I run into trans people a few times a week (that I notice), but they're always just been going about their day. Never seen a trans person being a freak.
Because it’s so viscerally gross
Comment got banned: basically Pierce is no better than O'Reilly. Do the Bill nye thing.
19:15 Just if anyone's curious, most wrestling K-12 is intramural, but that's because there haven't been many girls wrestling. They tend to win up until puberty but only sometimes continue to wrestle in highschool. I had one girl on my team and I had one match against a girl in highschool, in like third grade I wrestled a girl and got absolutely demolished. This has been changing recently though and I'm pretty sure there are some colleges with female wrestling teams now so high school programs are popping up as well. Wrestling is a dying sport so hopefully incorporating male and female wrestling programs could help revive it a little bit.
It's weird seeing B-Team content on a Destiny video
The narrator is right about piers but many of his own commentary applies to himself specifically at the end at like 49:20 when talking about Israel Palestine the narrator has a clear pro Palestine bias.He is right that piers is actually decent about asking tough questions which he does to both sides like the famous what should’ve been done post October 7th but the narrator only clipped one side. The narrator also like piers clearly entertains bad actors like mehdi (Qatari funded) and norm(dggers well aware) who in this very video call Israel non democratic and run by fascists(just idiotically bad takes) who aren’t much any better then piers on this topic in fact many are worse but the narrator agrees with them showing he’s no better
Lol it’s like he’s trying to sound unbiased while also running though leftist catchphrases and talking points. He’s just doing the grift in reverse
Cool story bro
"Bias" in colloquial language typically means an unconscious or irrational preference or prejudice - there's nothing inherently wrong with taking a clear stance or being unambiguous about your position
@ He’s trying to present as neutral when his bias is clear. It’s literally the same as piers morgan
Yeah Jose can’t really hide his bias when it comes to I/P. But for most topics he has a nuanced and fair approach.
i give piers credit for his ability to audience capture. he knows what people want, people don’t want educated, fact checked convos they want political theater. can’t blame him too much.
32:53 to be fair to Piers, when he says that he's a "liberal", I think he means in the context of America's Overton window. In Britain Piers would be a conservative, but in the US he'd be considered Liberal.
He's said multiple times that he would support a total ban on guns in the US for example, and he also would want for America to have Medicare for all. Both of these positions would be considered Far-Left/Progressive in the US, so calling him a "right winger" isn't very nuanced. His personal friendship with Trump and his experience of being cancelled in Britain for woke-related reasons seems to have brainrotted him a little bit, but I still think it's relatively fair for him to call himself a liberal in the context of the US.
That is still in balance with all his other current takes, which at the very least give you ample reason to doubt just how Liberal he even is these days.
The thing is, most people can have a few opinions of the other side, but you generally gauge their allegiance in balance with the majority of their views (and their actual imact). If Pierce provably, for a long time now, clearly favors his Republican guests at the expense of his Democrat guests, you can at least suspect he's flirting with the MAGA movement (much like Cenk, just in different ways)
Not a fan of short form content, it's candy vs steak. However, it is a fundamental mistake to assume that this format inherently benefits the 'Right wing'. It fundamentally benefits the side with the SIMPLER ARGUMENT. On many topics, right now, it will end up benefiting the right, because, for example, you've got Neil De'Grase Tyson with his nonsensical theoretical notion on how it could EVER be fair to have men competing against women directly in sports vs Riley Gaines... instant slam dunk. There are probably a few specific issues that wind up benefiting the left as well, but the short form format will always benefit the easier to understand argument.
Long story short: JRE, Lex Fridman, and Bridges FTW!
Piers isn't a professional moderator. He becomes the debater
Exactly, he is partisan as hell, he only is semi balanced on the topic of Israel-Palestine, other than that he is as right wing as they come.
the wrestling thing is funny to me because here in Louisiana, we also have mixed football. Like there aren't a lot of girls who play football so they just play with the boys, which is why when I saw girls wrestling it surprised me more that she was winning, not that there were boys wrestling against her.
“It’s unproductive.” End of video
The comments on that bilzerian video were WILD
32:22 it's stuff like this right here that reinforces why Destiny is so insistent on always going to the source material for making any substantive claim. Because this game of dumb telephone happens where we get a spurious claim from one guy who got cited in a U.N. sanctioned report and all of a sudden it's "UN reports thousands of medals being lost to trans athletes!!" This is cherry-picking at its worst: overstate, intentionally misunderstand and twist the claims of one or a few, and confuse the populace by conflating them with the ruling or reporting of a much larger and more credible source.
Do you know the orbital of Jupiter in Parsecs?
21:28 i dont even know what happened someone explain
oh he dislocated his knee
Email was fire
Debate should be about an exchange amount of ideas and the viewers learning somehting. But I think it is just about who’s a better debater most of the time.
I mean, Piers Morgan Uncensored is not a debate, it's a shit slinging contest. Piers does almost no moderation on when he does he usually doea to dunk in the liberals/leftist. It's a joke.
@ I actually like the show a lot it’s entertaining but I agree it’s not a debate. Not at all. I was commenting more on Destiny’s overall debate take. He agrees winning a debate is more about who’s debating but thinks that’s a good thing. I think that defeats the purpose of debate. If you’re winning a debate bc you’re good at debate and not because your side of the topic is the better side it doesn’t mean much. His sports comparisons were silly to me, it’s not analogous. In sports all we care about is who’s the best, the winner is the best. In debate we want the better issue to win out not the better debater to always win.
@nickwiener8729 sure thing, it's a well-known fact that in debate you can have a "correct" viewppint and still "lose" in the eyes of the audience because you presented your views in an unconvincing way while your opponent presented a very convincing "lie"
@@sathrielsatanson666 ya
He wasn't even right about Pi though...
Why does he stream in better quality than he uploads?
Just to annoy you
@@MrShanester117 Doesn't annoy me just curious =)
Piers is not only player in his own show by participating in the discussion, but also the (biased) refferee. Why would you participate in such a show, being left-winged?
I think this guy put into words perfectly as to how I saw Piers and a lot of the political podcasts and commentators. It’s just a whole lot of noise.
41:04 The accelerated timeline is so indicative of the hyperonline battlefield on which trans issues are fought. It's been very bad for the coherance of this and many movements.
It annoys me that Destiny just memoryholes how rabid the Left was about language-policing (“cancellation”) and chalks it up to Piers Morgan/conservatives just drumming things up that never existed. The Left hasn’t even moved past this type of behavior on an ideological basis, they are just aware the strategy is ineffective. It’s as if - in brief moments - he forgets that sometimes his own normalness is fringe within his party rather than the mainstream.
Hate to break it to you buddy, you only engage with the fringe online xD most of the left is pretty normal
@ You don’t really know who I talk to, lil bro. 😤
I’m not so sure about that, but it also depends on what and who we’re talking about: the average normie out in the real world who describes themself as left-wing but is realistically apolitical? Sure, they’re normal - and this type of person is probably the largest category of any political group.
But generally, when we refer to political factions (“the Left”, for example) we are referring to a set of the population that is inherently more political than that. With that in mind, I think the Left largely either believes in these types of things, but has merely given up on them - or at minimum condones them. Reasonable people can disagree about the state of these things today, but in the time I’m talking about - much of the mid and late 2010s - left-wing culture as a whole was definitely in that place.
Why are people seemingly in a emoji spam war between what looks like a cabbage and someone wiping the screen? 🤔
46:00 Destiny explains part of why calling people trans as an insult is bad.
Lynnear
9:16 "In feb, he moved the entire show to UA-cam" No, the TV channel the show was on got nuked due to near 0 viewers, so he moved along with the rest of talktv.
40:08 Based!
Bro I'm 5 minutes in and he's talking about cars. I have no idea what he's talking about but it has nothing to do with Piers Morgan. Learn how to edit
The first 5 minutes of every video proves that August knows how to edit, the final 99% of every video proves he's too lazy to ever be capable of doing his job properly, never gonna change
I think I'm with Brianna Wu on this one. Granted, her characterization could certainly have been far more charitable, but trans-women have a difficult enough time getting people to respect their identity *after* transition. Expecting people to respect a trans-person's pre-transition gender identity was totally untenable in 2014. Even now, "gender reassignment" and "transition" are terms that clearly imply going from one gender to another.
If that trans lady had done more to shield Piers from public backlash and restate their criticisms in a much gentler manner, Brianna might not have to be trying to run damage control today. It's a tall ask -- you basically have to take shit from some Twitter warriors who may call you a pickme because you're coddling a grown ass man who made them feel insulted. But when that man is a media pundit with a sizeable following and he's professing to be your ally, you should probably suck it up and hold his hand.
It definitely seems to me that trans advocates would have benefitted a lot more by arguing for patience and understanding. That said, I imagine it probably looked a lot different from inside those spaces. Especially if the hate was even *worse* ten years ago
Why is brianna even relevant ?
She doesnt deserve any of this fame. Shes always been a grifter, since the olden days of gamergate
Holy shit a jose video on Destiny what timeline am I in
39:11 Probably the wrong time to use the word “castrate” 😂😂😂
Anyone else hate when Destiny speeds up the videos he's watching? Like mf I have your video sped up, wtf are they saying? If you're gonna take someone else's video, at least watch it on normal speed.
nah, 4x is lightwork for me
Bruh, liberal and conservative have different meanings in the UK.
This was like watching a fever dream at 2x speed. My favorite part was when the video tries to say trn. athletes had nothing to do with the election and then went down a level 14 rabbit hole to explain why Piers is indeed anti-Trns. It is this reactionary behavior-not the issue itself-that lost democrats the election. But on a macro scale. I wonder if they will ever realize it?
Deadnaming your mom is wild, but only because it's unnatural to talk about her in the past with her then sername in any contex. When you say Mrs. Ranthrough played the violin, you are identifying her as her present self doing an action in the past because that's how english works. Mr. Deadname doesn't exist to refer to as having done something in the past, unless you transfobicly or incorrectly believe that Mr. Deadname died and you are refering to them using their last known information. Ms. Name is Ms. Name now, and her past actions can be attributed to Ms. Name since that's the last know information to refer to her with. Mrs. Ranthrough dropped out of highschool connects the past to the present in a useful and clear way. Ms.Beautiful isn't an accurate way to describe your mom anymore.
Piers got his ass kicked at chess by tate and thinks Pi is the pythagorean theorem
Hahaha destiny got school by the old lady from home alone 😂😂😂
Yes! Hes listening to Josè!
The biggest problem is that he’s British. We have enough conservatives peddling misinformation as is and the LAST thing I need is the political opinions of a Brit influencing how the people in MY country feel. Get your own political drama lil bro, it’s not my fault your country is boring asl.
Pipe down
I don't see what the problem is, your country is almost entirely controlled by Russia, what's the problem with a bit of English on the side??
It's not that he's British, it's that he has double standards. For example, he lets conservative commentators yap without interruption while liberal commentators get interrupted when Piers doesn't want his audience to know the facts
@phishdough trying to sound like Destiny won’t work mate , be yourself. It just makes you sound like a xenophobic idiot.
You do realise the main 3 White Populations of the US are of British 10%, Irish 10% & German 12% decent right?
What language do you speak?
What legal system were your 1st Laws based on?
You know George Washington was a Brit too right? The Newly Rich in America just didn't wanna send Taxes back to England anymore...where they were from...
How does Destiny have so much trouble reading? Lineer? It's linear!
Yea, noticing this a while back, I can't watch him. It's just too annoying and broken and Piers thinks he is a journalist. As someone who was and was literally on the ground, a guy who just do this claiming to be a journalist while openly admitting how biased he is would be the exact opposite.
Yea there are some girls tournaments in high school but in middle school and youth the wrestle each other
How Piers flirts
I hate this argument on sports. Stop trying to dismiss the issue as fringe and not important. The perceived unfairness of it is just too obvious. People care about it because it says something about the people defending it. This issue only managed to reach this point BECAUSE there are enough people in positions of power and influence who accept this insanity.
The issue is important enough for activists to change how the olimpic games operate.
And why is it bad for Republicans to press Democrats on this? If you compare how much time was spent talking about issues, the left spent WAY MORE time lying about project 2025 and claiming Trump would sign a national abortion ban. Do you know the difference? Trump was clear and denied both allegations in multiple interviews. Kamala Harris never stated a clear change in her position on trans issues AND other leftist social issues she defended before.
And of course he has no problem with Mehdi Hasan spewing his antisemitic nonsense. I should have know the moment when he tried to counter all the good arguments against transwomen in women's sports with some nitpicks.
He doesnt even get the digits of Pi right
And even if he did… it’s literally useless information for the vast majority of people. Understanding WHAT pi is is way more important and relevant.
lineer
Wait Dave Rubin was right. Even if they do it by weight class men still are much stronger at the same weight than women. They have better muscle quality. It's nonsense to not segregate by gender.
The problem is that Dave has a barely rudimentary understanding of topics he chooses to talk about which leads to him being unable to meaningfully discuss them. Sam Harris and Destiny both have a similar thought about this in general in that you shouldn’t care wether you agree with someone’s stance on a topic but rather wether their method of arriving at the conclusion is sound. In Dave Rubin’s case he is an obvious hack with a lackluster method of arriving at his conclusions which leads to him embarrassing himself even on topics where I would probably agree with his conclusion.
CRAIG JONES IN A DESTINY VIDEO
1 view fell off
That joke fell off a year ago
Get a new meme bro
@xp7575 meta bro
Я подумал это Стас ай как просто.
Lmao look at all the left wingers crying in destinys comments 😂😂😂 here come the pardons 😂😂
I too have wrestled with girls in highschool wrestling.
A² + 3.1415 + mx + b
The whole bit about platforming a nazi. I’ve never been a fan of Dan but seeing this clip of him still changes my opinion for the negative. If I never saw this clip I would have just thought he was poker douche. Now we know 😂 I don’t think that’s a bad thing. If you watch that and agree with Dan, you’re a lost cause anyway.
He isn’t even a legit poker player and probably never was. Most of his wealth was a result of inheritance and his original claim to fame was basically being a non-political Andrew Tate in that he was famous because of the perception of him as rich with a fun lifestyle surrounded by women
@ Yah that was my basic perception of him. Didn’t know he was anti Semitic tho
God the soy is strong... sub 80T levels here
Overall good vid from Jose but god I hate SJW language
Make your show.
Debate show with substance. There is market for it. People are curious but they got bored of constant bickering. Give them that.
Thats what Bridges is supposed to be
The vast majority of people do not want this. That’s just how it works sadly. Nobody cares
LIN-E-ER. Not LYNEER. JESUS! What a complete fool.
"Poker player" Dan Bilzerian, no, he's a trust fund baby, his father stole a LOT of money.
As a brit Noone likes him here
The PMS show is a garbage dump.
Luneer
Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu does have belts. You just don't typically wear a belt in noGi (sometimes you wear a gi Sometimes you don't).
It's also super common for men and women to roll together in training. You practice with the people at your gym. You don't perfectly scope out your exact match.
The guy who came up to him afterwards was Craig Jones and his gym /team. Kind of has a reputation for injuring people who don't tap or go too hard, so it's not shocking that that would happen when he's around
I want that email
LYNEAR
Wait this whole debate shite is just bullshit excuse to farm?
I think yall wrong, thanks to Destiny's manipulation, I have made this more avout teams 😂😂😂 its about how the tale end of yalls ideology has been proven innefective
Skibidi Ohio
Men vs. women doesn't happen.
Currently, the weight classes for men are distributed between 57 and 130 kg body weight.
For women, there are weight classes in the range of 48 to 75 kg. There are seven weight classes for women and men each.
In high school sports it happens sometimes.
@@ogolthorp Das mag so sein. In der Grundschule wird überhaupt nicht nach Geschlecht geteilt.
Ich beziehe mich auf den Professionellen Sport.
Boys wrestle girls. And even lose. Stop talking about things you don’t know.
@@MrDougfunny7 Boys and girls do but men and women don't.
@@MrDougfunny7 This is true for boys and girls, but not for men and women.
You get owned everytime you go on, Doesn’t mean the show is the problem you’re the problem
No one cares about your dreams bro.
@ cry more destiny
Dude looked up how to pronounce linear as a native English speaker that's so wild to me?