@@truthinspector6390 Six months is when a baby learns to crawl and also when the swim classes start for that but sometimes a baby might have a disability that prevents them from doing much except crawl. Or, maybe they scheduled the classes and the baby just so happens to fall in before then.
@@truthinspector6390 But is someone who is not your child falls in before learning to swim, you are liable under criminal law in most states for allowing a public danger to exist on your property. it is you, not the HOA that goes to jail. Keep the fence, find a lawyer, win the case on the grounds of public safety.
We live in an HOA neighborhood and the majority of the people here are really nice, but there's this one woman living here who regularly drives around looking at people's property for things she can report to the HOA. Needless to say, she's not exactly popular.
Adrian Greene exact situation with my sister! at her house HOA’s literally reached over her backyard fence to take a picture of her weeds and told her to pull them out. disgusting what some of them will do
@@Prettygurl420 HOA Scam quality depends on people. "Defects in your property can be repaired cheerfully by our relatives & friends for a small fee...." Haight-Ashbury Real Estate Development Inc, San Francisco, Ca
@@maremacd yes. There are some HOAs that cost $600 a month to tell you what you can and cannot do. They provide nothing else. Just have to pay the fees to live in the neighborhood.
My husband and I were looking at places and the first thing I said to every realtor we saw was "don't even bother showing us houses in HOA neighborhoods. Nobody but nobody is gonna tell me what I'm gonna do with my property
i posted this before on other videos like this. When I hired a realtor, the number one thing I told them was "NO HOAs!!!!" Third house she showed us was in a HOA. I asked her what part of NO HOAs did she not understand, then fired her on the spot.
I just could never understand how we ever got to a point in this country where you can buy a piece of land, put a house on it and an HOA can tell you what to do with it.
Also because people bought into the idea that private HOAs makes govt smaller because all the rule making and enforcement will be transferred to the HOA. The problem is that the Constitution protects you from govt but not from private companies like HOAs.
When you buy the house with HOA rules, you sign a contract that you will abide by those very rules. If you don't like the rules, don't buy the property. DUH!!!
@@observantowl5568 If you had a nice car that runs and you were told you to get another, that may be more expensive, to replace it would you? First off that would make a dent in your finances. That itself can set a lot or some people back. Second there might not be a way for you to recover your loss because the old car might not sell for as much if it even sells at all. Third you ever hear the saying "If it ain't broke don't fix it." The fence they have already does it's job. It technically doesn't need to be replaced. It's still up, doesn't have holes or broken parts, ETC.
@@observantowl5568 Did you know you can talk to people without being rude? I don't understand why so many people have been rude lately. I remember when I could have civilized conversations with people. You may think it's stupid but last week I saw a vid describing something similar to my example.
@@katavia4131 if you signed a contract when you bought the house, you're legally bound to their ridiculous rules and grabs for power. I would never, ever, ever, ever buy a house or condo that had an HOA
Lord Acton was correct about power. It does horrible things to people. I never had any so I can't say. But I've seen people change after getting even very small amounts of power. Its an evil thing power is.
@@smartazz61 True words. Power seems to attract those who seek to abuse it. Some go into politics with morality, but they have to shed that...like a snake sheds it's skin...🐍
And this right here is exactly why I would never ever live in a home that has a HOA. There’s no way in hell somebody’s going to tell me what I can and cannot do with my own home.
“ agree...however living in Houston tx it's impossible to find a home in a decent neighborhood without having a HOA” Hahaha you guys don’t get it at all! It is the HOA that keeps the neighborhood a “decent place” to begin with.
In my country we don't have anything like an HOA, but I think its purpose is to prevent the neighbourhood property value to decrease. Not 100% sure tho
@@leenaz8356 Theres many things that can decrease a property's value... like it being near a river or the sea. If flooding in common the houses in the area will be cheap.
@@Kat-mu8wq that makes sense, but what confuses me are things like fences or door colors for example. Why or how do these things decrease property value of neighbouring houses?
HOA's started in the 1950's. They were originally formed to save the home owners time and money with trash and snow removal, lawn care, etc... But over time HOA's became bureaucratic and now they are downright authoritarian!
She said it perfectly; the HOA is more concerned with their kangaroo rules and policies rather than the humans who live there and the enjoyment of their own property. Common sense should rule the day not power hungry tyrants.
zombie wire they’re allowed to have a safety fence. The issue is they took it upon themselves to have an unapproved type of fence installed. Everything that can be seen from the street needs to be approved. 1.)They never got approval and 2.) didn’t bother to choose a fence that meets the hoa standards. None of this would be going on had they followed two simple rules.
@@glintoflightonbrokenglass9473 How do you know that they're not being harassed? How do you know that their pool fence wasn't put up before the rule was put into place and isn't grandfathered in? Just because someone doesn't cry to the news doesn't mean they're not dealing with the same problem.
@@unapologeticallyamy9031 First, I watched the video. Did you? If so, you should watch it again and take notes. Second, they're not on the news. Third, go back and watch the video.
The moment when a HOA member came and told me that I cannot hang clothes for sun drying inside my room was when I knew something was wrong with these people, I am saving resources and making use of sun power to dry my clothes and here they come putting up notice on mt house door and second when I lost my nerve was when my friend's house door knob couldn't be changed to their liking snd it had to look similar to other house to keep it aesthetic!!! Seriously??? What's wrong!
I used to say the same thing, and if possible, it's still my opinion. However, I moved from OKC down to San Antonio area and I can tell you that there are hardly ANY communities which are not in a HOA these days. It is very difficult to find a non-HOA area.
@@VaporheadATC I’m in San Antonio as well and I know exactly what you’re talking about. If you want to have freedom with your property, you’re moving into the country! I don’t know of any neighborhoods besides the projects where there isn’t an HOA.
I am sorry that you feel that way. My development and it's HOA is fantastic. See we have people here that read the CC&R's before they bought a $1M home and comply with the rules. It's that simple. Don't paint your brick/stone house purple, don't put a boat/trailer in your backyard, don't build a tin shed in your backyard, cut the grass, put your trash cans out of sight. It's really not that hard to have a beautiful neighborhood.
@BIG R Too bad they always devolve into nitpicking over something petty like someone's shutters getting sun faded and no longer being in code so they absolutely *must* be fined for it.
After recently becoming president of my HOA, I saw the BS the previous board pulled…unfairly targeting people they did not like and making them spend $$$. Lucky, by getting to peek behind the curtain, gaining access to past documentation the Board hid from residents, I was able to right some wrongs. Some people feel they are running their own country. This is why people NEED to be involved.
@@nickdeliso7026Then you ban them from the neighborhood. Or ban them to be in the HOA. Then they cannot become members again since they are not in it anymore.
There is a reason why there are so many HOA now. People no longer respect their neighbors now. Without an HOA even in upper scale neighborhoods you get lazy crazy neighbors that destroy property value.
@@alexandercrush HOAs are a cancer on society. Doesn’t matter what anyone says, I purchased the land and the house and will do with it as I see fit. No one has more rights to my property than me.
@@xdizzle0460 true, but I’ll never sign a contract with any HOA. They are cancerous. There is also many stories about HOAs creating new rules even after the contract was signed. If I signed a contract that provision that allowed them to change the terms of the agreement would be null and void.
The HOA used to cause a lot of problems in my neighborhood, too. Then a gangster caused massive destruction to the HOA building. Ever since then, it's as if there is no longer an HOA, because, they never do anything any longer. Our neighborhood lives in complete peace now, with no more harassments.
Why is it that everyone always sees everything as a personal attack? It's very clear this isn't personal, in fact it's a very specific complaint addressed in their HOA covenants. There's another family with a similar lot with the same issue with the HOA. This is about a different rule for a corner lot than for other lots. The two families need to get together and encourage a vote of the homeowners to change that part of their HOA covenants.
I don't know who's in the right regarding whether they can or can't require the fence to be replaced, but I can tell you that the fence around the home owner's pool looks like it came from Wal-Mart. I might expect to see it around an above ground swimming pool, but not around a nice pool in a nice looking neighborhood. How can they even enjoy the pool with parts of it only a couple of feet from the pool's edge?
@@bretak74 it’s literally in their backyard and it’s conforming to standard pool fences like other one have. It be a different story if they built one themselves with ugly wood picket fences or something. HOA is known to personally attack certain homeowners and once she sue, they will change that rule cause the obvious have a winning case.
Actually, people with landlords get away with even more than these poor homeowners. They claim squatters' rights and have more entitlement to the home than the owners. HOAs don't have to follow any rules, they just make their own up as they please, then tell the homeowners later, after they think their "law" has been broken. Just grown up high-school bullies.
I’d rather rent then have to do deal with HOA’s man … you have more rights as a tenant and most landlords I ever had were really nice (obviously can vary experience to experience)
Sometimes you don't have a choice. Even if there isn't an HOA on your home when you purchased it. In some states should a platted sub vote to put one in & they get at least 80% vote for it, your home now is legally under an HOA whether you like it or not. In Michigan, that's the law.
@@conniegrosser1679 You must mean, "rich". It pisses me off that everyone thinks _everyone_ has an option. I would need a lot more money to afford _any_ place without an HOA, in my current state of Colorado. But, that's why I'm moving back to my home state, where HOA's aren't everyfuckingwhere and the sale of my 800 sq. ft. home will buy a 2000 sq. ft. one, with plenty of change left over.
@@2xtreem4u Yes, under the scenario I had outlined, Your home is subject to association rules. If they include an annual due that goes unpaid, they can put a lean on your home. I don't know if all states do this. I used to be a Realtor in Michigan & I can assure you, if 80% of your platted sub vote it in, your house is included.
@@TheAntiqBoutiq n sadly a iron fence is too wide for a pool fence.. it's all good hoa made error saying she has a privacy fence when it's clearly a pool fence.. obviously with her house size money is not an issue..
Never, Ever, Never, Never Ever, buy a home with a HOA. I bought a home and stayed in it six months, before I had had enough. They are policemen without badges and robbers without guns! Run Away Fast!
This is what happens when you move to a ritzy neighbourhood like that lol ppl life in a fantasy world and have nothing better to do in life but complain about petty things lol
Knew a guy who said his HOA hopped his fence to cut his yard while he was on a business trip and sent him a bill for about $200. He sold the house with a huge loss.
Suddenly every HOA member gets billed an equal portion of what is owed, and everyone wants to give her the boot even more. There really isnt much of a win here, which is probably why these board members are so keen on this wierd, extra stupid flex.
I feel the same way.... I live in the middle of a town in Missouri. I'll be damned if ANYBODY tells me what I can or can not do in my own yard....wether it's legal or not...
Which is weird to me, because HOAs are just miniature versions of the socialist utopia that Dem voters claim to want. They hate the sample but still want to buy the full product. I don't get it.
@@jakexie7149 exactly what I thought when I seen the first comment on this thread. I was gunna reply but I was like…nah. Not trying to feed into negativity 😂
@@AtarahDerek Its not really similar to socialism. We definitely agree that HOAs often are shite and cause more problems than good, but typically they are run by elected members. Most HOAs are way more similar to existing political structures in America than socialism (IE characterized by a constant power struggle and political maneuvering to force opponents into submission - no interest in compromise)
First year after we bought our house in an HOA, the 2 trees in the front yard that were planted by the builder died. I left them there because you are "required" to have 2 trees in your front yard according to HOA rules. When they sent me a letter saying I needed to replace the trees with 2 trees at a cost of $300 each, I said I have 2 trees. They said the trees have to be alive. I said show me in the rules where it says "alive."
If you would had listen clearly, that HOA did not say that they could not have a fense around their pool, it is the type of fense that they require. That family already was aware of the rules when they bought their house and I do not feel sorry for them.
@@patricksaxon3983 And if you'd listened carefully you would have heard that the fence was installed when the house was built and that other houses, including another corner plot, have the same fence but haven't been told to replace/remove it. You're stupid and I do feel sorry for you.
The bad ones usually do deals with companies to get %. So they force the entire neighbors get new paint and then get kickbacks from the paint company. Same with tiles and everything else. And if you don’t use the the company they refer you run into these problems.
Depending on the cost of a new fence, it may be lawyer time. Whichever is cheaper. I wouldn't be removing a child safety device from my home. Nope. Not until the kids are old.
I have a friend whose on an hoa board. We drove her young daughter to a particular homeowners house for a costume party in the neighborhood. She said they were battling the homeowners over their fence. She only mentioned all this because i commented how i LOVED the wooden fence planks that was housed in black wrought iron with lovely ivy type wrought iron decorations from top to bottom. Was beautiful! I looked at her and said shes stupid. Lol ive know her for over 40 years so i could say that.
@@yokootersmellfunky Precisely. It's absolutely discrimination when the rules are a case by case basis. Odds are they wanted the house and were planning a variety of ways to harass them for cash or the house. HOAs should all be banned universally and anyone profiting from them fined and jailed.
The HOA, should get a liability agreement that HOA will be liable for any death, accident or claim against homeowners... if they are forced to remove pool fence.
They don't need a liability agreement. The letter forcing them to remove the fence relieves them of the responsibility and places it squarely upon the shoulders of the HOA.
Yep my cat fell in once too after that scare I got a fence up straight up and I would fight tooth and nail if someone told me I had to take it down, no way would I risk animals or other people’s lives just for some idiots who are worried about their community’s aesthetic
@@maxsdad538 excuse me what? I’m literally the owner of my pets, never again after that fence went up did my cat or any other animal under my care have any close calls I don’t know what you classify as an “excuse” but my reason for putting up the fence was because I have a duty of care to other living creatures do not for a moment assume you know more about a stranger’s life than they do themselves. And as for your other comment yes some dogs cannot swim and you could express a bit of empathy to OP as they did nearly loose their beloved pet and. once again you’re assuming to know more about another’s life when you clearly do not, stop doing that it makes you look like a pompous idiot.
@@clipp7777 honestly if where you want to move had anything to say on what you do on your land, you shouldn’t live there. Why pay all that money just to have to deal with other peoples opinions
the HOA orders them to take down something required by insurance not to mention that fence serves as a HUGE safety net. The HOA members should be ashamed of themselves that they would rather have aesthetics over the safety and well being of children.
Not all HOA’s are like that. When we moved in our new home the fence was after the kids bedroom windows we sent a request to the HOA to move the fence for safety of the kids. They approved in less than 24hrs. That family just needs to sue them, safety always comes first. Knowing your HOA committee and attending those meetings they are recorded and asking them face to face whether the fence is more important than the death of your child puts them in a liable spot.
Only time HOAs make sense are attached homes/apartment houses that share a continuously lot. I dated someone who was on an HOA board and he was as dramatic and ridiculous as they seem.
Well that contradicts the already established Right of Association, so i'm guessing you must be a "rights are cool as long i agree with them" trumpster
Petition all neighbors to remove all the HOA members, replace them with sensible members from the neighborhood, and remove the stupid rules they made. And do as the lawyer said, sue them first so once they lose in court they can pay for your court fees.
The government cannot ban free association. I wouldn't live in an HOA either, but nobody stuck a gun to their head and said "buy this property with an HOA". There are plenty of areas to live in that don't have an HOA.
But it IS NOT your property. Buying into an HOA is almost always a long-term lease, and one of the terms allows the HOA to set limits on your use of their property.
yeah BUT people who are buying homes need to do their research. HOA is design to keep out certain races they don't want among the whites exclusive for the privileges'
It's more older retirees or semi-retired people. For certain though, it's people who enjoy being able to push other people around and tell them what to do. Sadly, the opposite type just never tries to get on HOA boards so it's a self-fulfilling prophecy sort of thing.
The U.S. is weird. Constantly complaining about the government touching "muh freedoms". But also establish HOAs to micromanage every aspect of your largest investment.
My friend lives in a neighborhood with a HOA and apparently his neighbor was told to take down the ramp he put by the front door steps, which he needs because he is in a wheelchair. Update: friend’s neighbor gets to keep the ramp :)
I’d legit pull the race card if I was her, and I’d tell the hoa either crack down on everyone or expect a lawsuit for discrimination as its unjust to single one person out when many are breaking their rules
@@GentlemenWithSticks i wouldn’t say it’s false, it’s entirely possible that this is a race issue, especially considering the other home with a pool fence isn’t being hassled.
I owned a house with an HOA, once. Never again. My first question when looking at a property is whether or not there is an HOA. If yes, that is an absolute deal killer.
I know of a home owner in a very exclusive neighborhood in Houston, who installed a side door and was told he needed to remove it. After a long battle with them, he had to remove it but he painted his home in ridiculous colors, purple, chartreuse, pink. It was such an eyesore!!! Turns out, they did not have any rules regarding house color 😝
i have a 5th scenario. since they are so adamant in having the fence removed, and since it's there for safety, have the hoa board members and officials held personally responsible if any deaths or accident occurs after the removal of the safety fence
So much for being ‘free’ and ‘my freedom’. In Australia it is a mandatory requirement that every pool has a pool fence installed. Pool fences save many, many lives each year. HOA boards are simply a power trip for weak a/holes.
That's not a law, the insurance company just refused to cover if they didn't have a pool fence. This doesn't mean they have to have the fence by law, just to get it insured. Source: I have an insurance license
BlackEquinox - That's incorrect, it's the highly visible (corner lot) units that need a more presentable fence. They can still have a fence, it just can't be the cheesy plastic.
I just watched another one where they wanted the trees down to see a playground... pretty much all I learned is that the HOA want access to your property.
Yet another HOA making a problem where there isn’t one. Don’t get rid of the pool fence, get rid of the HOA. Quit buying in HOA’s and they will quit making them. Usually full of Little people on power trips, never a good thing.
My first home had an HOA. Lived there for 8 years. After all the hassle decided to sell and move out when they declined my deck design. I just said screw these people. I now live in a single home residential area. Can do as I please to my backyard. Never been happier.
Yay!! same here had many problems with my HOA about 6 months after i moved into my house but my house caught fire and burned unsure how it caught fire😜😜 collected the insurance $$ and moved😂😂
I used to work for a company that handled billing for multiple HOAs and I saw how crazy they were. They would fine you for the smallest things and could send you into foreclosure. They had more say on the homes than the actual homeowners.
campkira I think a helicopter is more likely than a drone. As with a drone people would be likely to harass the operator then a helicopter hovering in the sky. Although a drone would be more cost effective.
They harass only whoever they want. Board members usually lives in the neighbors and if you’re their buddies, you can get away from a lot things. If you’re not, then they’ll harass you living nightmare
My friends mom befriended them for that exact reason lol. Acts all friendly with them so she can do what she wants with her house, and they never call her out
One reason why I'll never live in a HOA area. Paying extra money, just to be told how to live in the home I pay a mortgage & property taxes, GTF out of here with that BS!!!
It’s state law it doesn’t matter what the home association says it’s state law you need a safety fence around your pool it’s also required by her insurance they have no argument against us
The HOA is rules require the fence be Iron not plastic (depending on interpretation of Privacy Fence clause), as the was explained by the 3 options: Remove it, Replace it with Iron, or Sue. If the law makes option 1 Remove it invalid, then replace it with iron or sue. They should sue, sounds like they should win re "Privacy Fence" not pool
Its a stupid law.. its your own fuken house, at your own fuken risk!! Land of the free right? Why arent you free to have a fuken pool with out safety at your own house...?
@@isailopez4132 HOAs see a house as a public space. Other wise you could do whatever you want. It exists to tell a home owner their design ideas are outside the accepted norm. They are the fashion police for houses.
@@rwbimbie5854 According to the story the HOA makes no mention about pool safety fences, just property fences. And Texas law states that leaves it up to the owner about the type of pool fence they want to install.
@@Fan-sl6de I've only ever encountered a single HOA community I didnt hate and that was only because the community voted not to renew and the HOA and its lease is set to expire in a few more years then dissolve and turn public. other than that, they've all been pretty awful.
I would like to have an HOA whose rules are guided by reason and moderation, not greed for making house values go up quickly. Better still, an HOA that encourages ugly things to keep taxes down. Loll. 😝
@@nicchauvin1096 Just move to an expensive town, no poor people. I live in a very expensive town in the Northeast. No poor people. Just very pricey homes with high property taxes. I can do what I want with my property I must add.
Those are developments. The developer in order to get his permits agrees to have a HOA. Then when you buy your lot or your house it is part of the deed. Why do cities require that? So they don't have to maintain the roads and common ground.
Last time an HOA tried to dictate a piece of my property on my yard, threatening it had to be removed or they would, I told them if they tried...lead would a problem to their overall health. I had already won the legal court battle and they were ordered by a judge not to interfere any further and make no attempt at retaliation. But they were butt hurt about losing and made the treat about taking my property from my yard. So, I responded in kind. Two years later, The HOA in my neighborhood was dissolved due to illegal practices, including theft, harassment, intimidation, extortion, and public defamation.
Nobody should ever buy a home in an HOA. I guess if you don't want any control over your property, but I like having the freedom to do what I want with what I own.
When I purchased my house, was specifically told I legally had to have a fence there as long as I had a pool because I'd be liable if neighborhood children wandered into my yard and drowned somehow. Crazy that they would be so opposed to that...Plus it's a nice looking fence, not something trashy.
Insurance company: "You must have a pool fence." HOA: "By no means can you EVER have a POOL FENCE ON A CORNER LOT REEEEE" Also HOA: "But these other lots with pool fences are fine tho"
This is what happens when you move to a ritzy neighbourhood like that lol ppl life in a fantasy world and have nothing better to do in life but complain about petty things lol
I have been saying this since the 70s..."never Never NEVER live in a house that is part of an HOA...NEVER!!!" I don't care if the house is FREE! You will pay for it in fees, court costs, lawyer & attorney fees, fines, etc.
An is only used before a word starting with a vowel. Try saying it out loud before typing if you can't comprehend this simple rule (there are only 5 vowels after all) and no need to thank me.
@@michaelreilly3513 It depends on the sound of the letter! Try saying "a HOA" verbally?! It's an HOA! Same thing with "unicorn". It's a unicorn...not an unicorn.
@@dreamlover4128 That is incorrect. Google it dear and you will see. Do not try and correct me, I know English. H. O. A. You say the letters, not as a word, and there is No AN before a word starting with H. The only time you can use AN is before words starting with a VOWEL. This rule is not interchangeable with sound. Dumb, stupid, and an idiot you are.
My HOA in TX tried to fine me for getting a roof repair via insurance claim. They made me apply for for permission to get the repair after the fact. I sold the home, then bought another house in a very nice non-HOA neighborhood.
Pool fence is not an eyesore, it adds value to the property? HOA needs to mind their own business. Homeowners purchased and paid for their own property. Hoa needs to stay out of everybody's business unless crime is involved. Who died and gave them the right to control what people can do with their property. They need to stop collecting nonsense yearly HOA fees from residents in the subdivision. What do they do with the money they collect from everyone, every year? It's not for neighborhood property maintenance or installing fence. Or security system. They really need to stop minding people's business. HOA is the neighborhood government! Don't buy homes in Hoa subdivision, they put liens on people's house . Fees are ridiculous, $800 a year for amenities. For what special features or benefit (for the subdivision resident)? Most of the time, 95 % of the people in the subdivision don't use the amenities that they offer. They built these amenities without asking the residents and slap the cost onto everybody. That lives in the subdivision. I can't beleve how everybody just accept one group of people to boss everyone around in their own subdivision and tell everyone what they can and cannot do with their home and property after they buy the property with their hard earned money. Your house and the land is a constant collateral (if you default on the Hoa fees). The land your house sits on is never yours after you pay off the house. If you default on yearly property tax that never goes away (a lien gets attached to the house). We don't need another form of government in the neighborhood, who is constantly watching you and your house 365 days a year (24/7). People buy house, don't harass homeowners. What they do with their prperty is not your business. Let them enjoy what they have achieved with their hard earned money. Everybody needs to vote the HOA out of their communities.
All I'm hearing from the HOA is "we'd rather your children die to preserve our aesthetic"
How about teach your children to swim and move on
@@truthinspector6390
Six months is when a baby learns to crawl and also when the swim classes start for that but sometimes a baby might have a disability that prevents them from doing much except crawl. Or, maybe they scheduled the classes and the baby just so happens to fall in before then.
@@truthinspector6390 you know how dumb you sound?
It will not be the homeowners child. It will be the toddler from 2-3 houses down. HOA board members must not have any children or grandchildren?
@@truthinspector6390 But is someone who is not your child falls in before learning to swim, you are liable under criminal law in most states for allowing a public danger to exist on your property. it is you, not the HOA that goes to jail. Keep the fence, find a lawyer, win the case on the grounds of public safety.
Her backyard is covered by Trees the real question is who’s in there backyard to even see then report it. HOA’s are weirdo stalkers on a power trip 👀
Adrian Greene exactly!
Adrian Greene THAT WHOLE COMMENT!!! 🙌 💯🙌💯🙌💯
We live in an HOA neighborhood and the majority of the people here are really nice, but there's this one woman living here who regularly drives around looking at people's property for things she can report to the HOA. Needless to say, she's not exactly popular.
one man had hoa tell him to demolish his shed that they found out about thru google earth.............. 🥴
Adrian Greene exact situation with my sister! at her house HOA’s literally reached over her backyard fence to take a picture of her weeds and told her to pull them out. disgusting what some of them will do
I hate HOA’s and will never buy a house with joining one required.
HighRiskEmployee we made the mistake of buying a home in one. If we move never again!
I’ve never had any issues but I guess it depends on where you live...
There’s an HOA in my city that was on the news because they forced a lot of the homeowners to paint their houses. 😱
@@nikkid7963
Get elected to the HOA board.
Vote to end HOA.....
@@Prettygurl420
HOA Scam quality depends on people.
"Defects in your property can be repaired cheerfully by our relatives & friends for a small fee...."
Haight-Ashbury Real Estate Development Inc, San Francisco, Ca
Imagine paying thousands of dollars for a home, only to have someone tell you what you can and CAN'T do to your home......
Welcome to America 🇺🇸
Thousands???
@@maremacd yes. There are some HOAs that cost $600 a month to tell you what you can and cannot do. They provide nothing else. Just have to pay the fees to live in the neighborhood.
Benders has million dollar home, not thousands
@@deo3367 hoa in benders landing doesn’t take money, unless your in benders estates
1st question when buying a home.
Is there an HOA?
Yes?
Bye...
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100% agree
My husband and I were looking at places and the first thing I said to every realtor we saw was "don't even bother showing us houses in HOA neighborhoods. Nobody but nobody is gonna tell me what I'm gonna do with my property
i posted this before on other videos like this. When I hired a realtor, the number one thing I told them was "NO HOAs!!!!" Third house she showed us was in a HOA. I asked her what part of NO HOAs did she not understand, then fired her on the spot.
Exactly!
“Your fence could saving lives but we don’t like the way it looks. Take it down” - Karen HOA
Chattykatty it’s both lmao
@@callie3444 it's a hybrid
@@itzcrystalzz Charen or Khad?
@@tamiwu0346 hmm charen
Home Owners ASSociation strikes again!
Despicable tiny dictator.
HOA board members are typically retired, angry old seniors without a clue.
PROBABLY ALL SUFFER FROM SENILE DEMENTIA.
Can confirm
The “GET OFF MY LAWN!” crowd.
I just think it’s women who have mental problems. “Karens”
HOAs are based on a good idea. They just always go too far for common sense.
I just could never understand how we ever got to a point in this country where you can buy a piece of land, put a house on it and an HOA can tell you what to do with it.
Racism. The original purpose of gated communities was systemic racism.
@@danielgreenwood793 now it makes complete sense
Also because people bought into the idea that private HOAs makes govt smaller because all the rule making and enforcement will be transferred to the HOA. The problem is that the Constitution protects you from govt but not from private companies like HOAs.
Seek the answer and you shall find trust there is information being with held from you. Pay attention to everything you sign and keep all records
When you buy the house with HOA rules, you sign a contract that you will abide by those very rules. If you don't like the rules, don't buy the property. DUH!!!
And if a neighbor's kid drowned in their pool, they would no doubt sue them.
@@observantowl5568 If you had a nice car that runs and you were told you to get another, that may be more expensive, to replace it would you?
First off that would make a dent in your finances. That itself can set a lot or some people back.
Second there might not be a way for you to recover your loss because the old car might not sell for as much if it even sells at all.
Third you ever hear the saying "If it ain't broke don't fix it." The fence they have already does it's job. It technically doesn't need to be replaced. It's still up, doesn't have holes or broken parts, ETC.
@@observantowl5568 Did you know you can talk to people without being rude? I don't understand why so many people have been rude lately. I remember when I could have civilized conversations with people.
You may think it's stupid but last week I saw a vid describing something similar to my example.
@@observantowl5568
Will HOA pay for the change???
Get exemption.....
@@rabbit0664
HOA "exemption" warranted....
@@observantowl5568
Only have to comply to HOA Scam if you have no good attorney......
As a real estate agent who cares, avoid HOAs like the plague
Thanks for the advice!
Lol
i'll get into trouble because i be damned if somebody gonna tell me to do anything in a house i pay the bills in just aint fixing to happen
@@katavia4131 if you signed a contract when you bought the house, you're legally bound to their ridiculous rules and grabs for power. I would never, ever, ever, ever buy a house or condo that had an HOA
In a minute we’re not going to have that option every piece of land I see in a few year a HOA is built on it. 😂
When an HOA takes aesthetics more seriously than someone’s insurance and human life, than that board is just a tyrant in disguise
Who's aesthetics? Not the home owner's.
Lord Acton was correct about power. It does horrible things to people. I never had any so I can't say. But I've seen people change after getting even very small amounts of power. Its an evil thing power is.
@@smartazz61 True words. Power seems to attract those who seek to abuse it. Some go into politics with morality, but they have to shed that...like a snake sheds it's skin...🐍
All hoa's are tyrants.
Jo Abate
Not very good disguise
And this right here is exactly why I would never ever live in a home that has a HOA. There’s no way in hell somebody’s going to tell me what I can and cannot do with my own home.
I agree...however living in Houston tx it's impossible to find a home in a decent neighborhood without having a HOA.
The government does
“ agree...however living in Houston tx it's impossible to find a home in a decent neighborhood without having a HOA”
Hahaha you guys don’t get it at all! It is the HOA that keeps the neighborhood a “decent place” to begin with.
@@blaster-zy7xx well where I live. In Vegas there’s plenty of neighborhoods that are absolutely gorgeous that don’t have an HOA.
@@truckingwithtobee Maybe you and I have different ideas of what an "absolutely gorgeous" neighborhood looks like.
Never spend your hard-earned money on a house located within an HOA
Totally agreed. That solves the problem.
AmeN!!
Right! NEVER!
Or POA
Everyone hates HOA's until they have a crazy neighbor.
Fun fact: A HOA is born Everytime a Karen wins a divorce settlement.
Lmfao omg facts!
Lol you're making this a joke but it's probably true.
That got me 🤣
lol
Good gosh....
Why is there an HOA? if its my home and I pay taxes on it I should have a right to do as I please , I think the HOA needs to be abolished
In my country we don't have anything like an HOA, but I think its purpose is to prevent the neighbourhood property value to decrease. Not 100% sure tho
@@leenaz8356 Theres many things that can decrease a property's value... like it being near a river or the sea. If flooding in common the houses in the area will be cheap.
@@Kat-mu8wq that makes sense, but what confuses me are things like fences or door colors for example. Why or how do these things decrease property value of neighbouring houses?
@@leenaz8356 because sub average, hive minded, suburban folk value homogeny. they see a neighborhood with disparate cultures and think it too "spicy".
HOA's started in the 1950's. They were originally formed to save the home owners time and money with trash and snow removal, lawn care, etc... But over time HOA's became bureaucratic and now they are downright authoritarian!
She said it perfectly; the HOA is more concerned with their kangaroo rules and policies rather than the humans who live there and the enjoyment of their own property. Common sense should rule the day not power hungry tyrants.
That is crazy, every pool needs a safety fence when children are involved. Many children drown yearly in domestic pools.
zombie wire they’re allowed to have a safety fence. The issue is they took it upon themselves to have an unapproved type of fence installed. Everything that can be seen from the street needs to be approved. 1.)They never got approval and 2.) didn’t bother to choose a fence that meets the hoa standards. None of this would be going on had they followed two simple rules.
Unapologetically Amy didn’t they also say the information needs to be in the deed and this was not?
@@unapologeticallyamy9031
Yet there's another corner property with the exact same type of fence. Why aren't they being harassed to remove it?
@@glintoflightonbrokenglass9473 How do you know that they're not being harassed? How do you know that their pool fence wasn't put up before the rule was put into place and isn't grandfathered in? Just because someone doesn't cry to the news doesn't mean they're not dealing with the same problem.
@@unapologeticallyamy9031
First, I watched the video. Did you? If so, you should watch it again and take notes.
Second, they're not on the news.
Third, go back and watch the video.
You spend so much money on your home only to be told by someone else how to live in it. YAY AMERICA home of the free!
Used to be
@Black Buick that's why he won't
Luckily not every neighborhood has a HOA and not all HOA's are this biased/crooked.
@Black Buick I suppose. His existing record is not promising at all. We shall see.
@@orionroberts1253 They probably assumed that the HOA would be fair.
HOA = trash.
Always has been
there should be a law prohibiting HOAs
they’re scummy and power hungry
People wonder why HOA's are hated. 🤬
Yep. We live in a gated community in Florida and we only pay 100.00 a month and they aren't controlling.
Are you serious? Im looking all over for townhouses and i just cant believe the monthly fees. For what? Wouldnt surprise me if they pocketed the money
Never buy a house with an HOA.
The moment when a HOA member came and told me that I cannot hang clothes for sun drying inside my room was when I knew something was wrong with these people, I am saving resources and making use of sun power to dry my clothes and here they come putting up notice on mt house door and second when I lost my nerve was when my friend's house door knob couldn't be changed to their liking snd it had to look similar to other house to keep it aesthetic!!! Seriously??? What's wrong!
Drying clothes INSIDE your house? I'm 99% sure that said HOA would be laughed out of court.
Inside? Thats a big ol’ yikes from me man
It's your yard do you want what too
That is pretty extreme, but you are the one that signed the HOA agreement. Maybe you should have read it first?
@@Your_Landlord But INSIDE THE HOUSE! Like as in someone has been going through their business and does not allow any PRIVACY!
Never move into an HOA neighborhood. That's all you need to know. No home is worth the trouble that an HOA could bring.
I used to say the same thing, and if possible, it's still my opinion. However, I moved from OKC down to San Antonio area and I can tell you that there are hardly ANY communities which are not in a HOA these days. It is very difficult to find a non-HOA area.
@@VaporheadATC it's really not that hard. Maybe if you are desperate to live in one of those cookie-cutter new house areas in a bland suburb.
@@thecaptain29 You have obviously not shopped the housing market lately, or do not live in the San Antonio area.
@@VaporheadATC I’m in San Antonio as well and I know exactly what you’re talking about. If you want to have freedom with your property, you’re moving into the country! I don’t know of any neighborhoods besides the projects where there isn’t an HOA.
I am sorry that you feel that way. My development and it's HOA is fantastic. See we have people here that read the CC&R's before they bought a $1M home and comply with the rules. It's that simple. Don't paint your brick/stone house purple, don't put a boat/trailer in your backyard, don't build a tin shed in your backyard, cut the grass, put your trash cans out of sight. It's really not that hard to have a beautiful neighborhood.
Remember.
A small group of Karens is called a complaint.
A large group of Karens is called an HOA.
This is GOLD 😂
gold
Unstoppable Karen vs. Immovable HOA
Exactly
@BIG R Too bad they always devolve into nitpicking over something petty like someone's shutters getting sun faded and no longer being in code so they absolutely *must* be fined for it.
After recently becoming president of my HOA, I saw the BS the previous board pulled…unfairly targeting people they did not like and making them spend $$$. Lucky, by getting to peek behind the curtain, gaining access to past documentation the Board hid from residents, I was able to right some wrongs. Some people feel they are running their own country. This is why people NEED to be involved.
You should ban all previous members to ever be in HOA again with a yearly vote to keep them out.
@@Some_Guy_6 The problem is this, if no one else runs you can’t keep these people from taking power. This is why everyone needs to be involved.
@@nickdeliso7026Then you ban them from the neighborhood. Or ban them to be in the HOA. Then they cannot become members again since they are not in it anymore.
@@Some_Guy_6 Not possible. If they own a home they are part of HOA. I wish we could ban some people.
@@nickdeliso7026But can't the board, with a majority vote, kick people out of the HOA?
Sue the board. And never, EVER buy a home that makes you be part of an HOA
There is a reason why there are so many HOA now. People no longer respect their neighbors now. Without an HOA even in upper scale neighborhoods you get lazy crazy neighbors that destroy property value.
@@alexandercrush HOAs are a cancer on society. Doesn’t matter what anyone says, I purchased the land and the house and will do with it as I see fit. No one has more rights to my property than me.
@@Stramontin1 They have rights if you sign a contract.
@@xdizzle0460 true, but I’ll never sign a contract with any HOA. They are cancerous. There is also many stories about HOAs creating new rules even after the contract was signed. If I signed a contract that provision that allowed them to change the terms of the agreement would be null and void.
@@Stramontin1 agreed
Sounds like HOA board members is out to get her
The HOA used to cause a lot of problems in my neighborhood, too. Then a gangster caused massive destruction to the HOA building. Ever since then, it's as if there is no longer an HOA, because, they never do anything any longer. Our neighborhood lives in complete peace now, with no more harassments.
yep.
@ your hoa has its own building? why did they care if it was destroyed the neighborhood would have to pay if it wasn't insured.
@@frankyflowers because they fear that "gangster" will come after them.
@ that's a good story, can they come over my way to talk to our code enforcement snoops, well throw a party in the park, ribs & 40oz'rs.
Sounds like the HOA has a problem with just this family!
Why is it that everyone always sees everything as a personal attack? It's very clear this isn't personal, in fact it's a very specific complaint addressed in their HOA covenants. There's another family with a similar lot with the same issue with the HOA. This is about a different rule for a corner lot than for other lots. The two families need to get together and encourage a vote of the homeowners to change that part of their HOA covenants.
I don't know who's in the right regarding whether they can or can't require the fence to be replaced, but I can tell you that the fence around the home owner's pool looks like it came from Wal-Mart. I might expect to see it around an above ground swimming pool, but not around a nice pool in a nice looking neighborhood. How can they even enjoy the pool with parts of it only a couple of feet from the pool's edge?
SOUNDS? No fact it's their race
@@bracketvilletexas Are you seriously throwing down the racism card without one shred of evidence to back up your claim?
@@bretak74 it’s literally in their backyard and it’s conforming to standard pool fences like other one have. It be a different story if they built one themselves with ugly wood picket fences or something.
HOA is known to personally attack certain homeowners and once she sue, they will change that rule cause the obvious have a winning case.
Owning a home in a HOA neighborhood is like renting a home with a landlord. You still have to do what they want when they want or get out.
Actually, people with landlords get away with even more than these poor homeowners. They claim squatters' rights and have more entitlement to the home than the owners. HOAs don't have to follow any rules, they just make their own up as they please, then tell the homeowners later, after they think their "law" has been broken. Just grown up high-school bullies.
shut up, Karen.
Yeah I'd rather rent an apartment then own in an HOA neighborhood
I’d rather rent then have to do deal with HOA’s man … you have more rights as a tenant and most landlords I ever had were really nice (obviously can vary experience to experience)
I would never ever live in a home that has an HOA
Sometimes you don't have a choice. Even if there isn't an HOA on your home when you purchased it. In some states should a platted sub vote to put one in & they get at least 80% vote for it, your home now is legally under an HOA whether you like it or not. In Michigan, that's the law.
Lucky you have a choice!
Me either. Too independent and smart to do that.
@@conniegrosser1679
You must mean, "rich".
It pisses me off that everyone thinks _everyone_ has an option. I would need a lot more money to afford _any_ place without an HOA, in my current state of Colorado. But, that's why I'm moving back to my home state, where HOA's aren't everyfuckingwhere and the sale of my 800 sq. ft. home will buy a 2000 sq. ft. one, with plenty of change left over.
@@2xtreem4u
Yes, under the scenario I had outlined, Your home is subject to association rules. If they include an annual due that goes unpaid, they can put a lean on your home. I don't know if all states do this. I used to be a Realtor in Michigan & I can assure you, if 80% of your platted sub vote it in, your house is included.
Then if a child drowns everyone complaints that there wasn't a fence.
They aren’t saying they want no fence, but an iron fence. An iron fence isn’t needed around a pool. That’s the argument.
and then they will sued her
@@TheAntiqBoutiq it really should not matter so long as there IS a fence.
@@TheAntiqBoutiq n sadly a iron fence is too wide for a pool fence.. it's all good hoa made error saying she has a privacy fence when it's clearly a pool fence.. obviously with her house size money is not an issue..
and sues both the HOA and the individuals who worked for them, who made those stupid decisions.
Never, Ever, Never, Never Ever, buy a home with a HOA. I bought a home and stayed in it six months, before I had had enough. They are policemen without badges and robbers without guns! Run Away Fast!
This is what happens when you move to a ritzy neighbourhood like that lol ppl life in a fantasy world and have nothing better to do in life but complain about petty things lol
Knew a guy who said his HOA hopped his fence to cut his yard while he was on a business trip and sent him a bill for about $200. He sold the house with a huge loss.
When buying a house, just know, HOA='s RUN!!! Huge no no, it's literally an idea of being micro managed while you live, and work.
This is yet another reason HOAs should be illegal. It's not anyone else's business what I do on my own property as long as it's legal. Period.
Suddenly every HOA member gets billed an equal portion of what is owed, and everyone wants to give her the boot even more. There really isnt much of a win here, which is probably why these board members are so keen on this wierd, extra stupid flex.
@@madjukesmeg what?
@@madjukesmeg huh?
I feel the same way.... I live in the middle of a town in Missouri. I'll be damned if ANYBODY tells me what I can or can not do in my own yard....wether it's legal or not...
Everyone in the U.S. are very divided politics wise, but one thing I think we ALL can agree on is abolish HOA’s haha
Which is weird to me, because HOAs are just miniature versions of the socialist utopia that Dem voters claim to want. They hate the sample but still want to buy the full product. I don't get it.
*cue political divide in comment section*
@@jakexie7149 exactly what I thought when I seen the first comment on this thread. I was gunna reply but I was like…nah. Not trying to feed into negativity 😂
@GN HOAs assume that any resources that come into the neighborhood automatically belong to them. How is that not seizing the means of production?
@@AtarahDerek Its not really similar to socialism. We definitely agree that HOAs often are shite and cause more problems than good, but typically they are run by elected members. Most HOAs are way more similar to existing political structures in America than socialism (IE characterized by a constant power struggle and political maneuvering to force opponents into submission - no interest in compromise)
First year after we bought our house in an HOA, the 2 trees in the front yard that were planted by the builder died. I left them there because you are "required" to have 2 trees in your front yard according to HOA rules. When they sent me a letter saying I needed to replace the trees with 2 trees at a cost of $300 each, I said I have 2 trees. They said the trees have to be alive. I said show me in the rules where it says "alive."
hahahaha, any update??
@@PatrickWagz I bought new trees at a nursery and planted them myself for $200 total.
@@RBCire I would buy the smallest trees I could find and plant them
lmao 🤣
I would get seedlings from the forest, and plant it there
Im never buying anything with a HOA I really dont want to go to prison.
i’ll be damned if I’M buying a nice house like that only to be told i can’t put up a fence around MY pool. HOA’s are the worst
If you would had listen clearly, that HOA did not say that they could not have a fense around their pool, it is the type of fense that they require. That family already was aware of the rules when they bought their house and I do not feel sorry for them.
Patrick Saxon ok boomer
Patrick Saxon they changed the rules after 2 years of them having the fence up, thats bs you’re just a stupid as the hoa
Patrick Saxon your the person that would be apart of the stupid HOAs
@@patricksaxon3983 And if you'd listened carefully you would have heard that the fence was installed when the house was built and that other houses, including another corner plot, have the same fence but haven't been told to replace/remove it. You're stupid and I do feel sorry for you.
Every HOA member I've met, are power hungry, & mean spirited ppl. 👎 Leave the family alone!
The bad ones usually do deals with companies to get %. So they force the entire neighbors get new paint and then get kickbacks from the paint company. Same with tiles and everything else. And if you don’t use the the company they refer you run into these problems.
Never met a bad one yet. Only seen bad ones on the Internet.
1: visual aesthetics
2: child safety
It's good to see the HOA has their priorities in order.
Depending on the cost of a new fence, it may be lawyer time. Whichever is cheaper.
I wouldn't be removing a child safety device from my home. Nope. Not until the kids are old.
I guess HOA will move Child safety down to number 10...
@@rauldempaire5330 - YES! Raise the kids somewhere else.
Next you won't be allowed to have the car seats in your car parked in the driveway because it doesn't look nice.
@@littlemissblueyes100 - Hey, that's a good idea!
I have a friend whose on an hoa board. We drove her young daughter to a particular homeowners house for a costume party in the neighborhood. She said they were battling the homeowners over their fence. She only mentioned all this because i commented how i LOVED the wooden fence planks that was housed in black wrought iron with lovely ivy type wrought iron decorations from top to bottom. Was beautiful! I looked at her and said shes stupid. Lol ive know her for over 40 years so i could say that.
This sounds like a discrimination case.
That's what I presume as well.
Yes 100%
How though
Rocco Meyers many other people have pool fences, why are they only coming for her?
@@yokootersmellfunky Precisely. It's absolutely discrimination when the rules are a case by case basis. Odds are they wanted the house and were planning a variety of ways to harass them for cash or the house.
HOAs should all be banned universally and anyone profiting from them fined and jailed.
The HOA, should get a liability agreement that HOA will be liable for any death, accident or claim against homeowners... if they are forced to remove pool fence.
Oh, they don't want the home owner to go without a safety fence. They just want her to spend a bunch of money to get one that 'looks good'
@@MarshallLoveday And I'm betting at least one HOA member knows someone who sells / installs the more expensive fences.
That fence is chickenshit.
They don't need a liability agreement. The letter forcing them to remove the fence relieves them of the responsibility and places it squarely upon the shoulders of the HOA.
@@Photron52 yeah but what if a pet or a child dies.. that wont replace them.
HOAs should be banned or something... some kind of reform law. Everyone I know that lives in a HOA area always have horrific stories to tell.
Many HOA's have more power than the local government. That should be a blatantly obvious red flag to anyone
I got more than a few stories about growing up within a HOA ruled subdivision.
@@arkbien9303
Tell us more...
They are like Condo Stratas, they don't care about the costs or disruption to the homewowner, more trouble than they are worth, abolish them.
@@Madmen604
Agreed.
Thank you Amy that’s what we need in news people helping people from bullies like this great job
One of my dogs wandered into our pool... if someone hadn’t been home she would have drowned.
Shame on these idiots.
Yep my cat fell in once too after that scare I got a fence up straight up and I would fight tooth and nail if someone told me I had to take it down, no way would I risk animals or other people’s lives just for some idiots who are worried about their community’s aesthetic
I've never herd of a dog that couldn't swim. And NO fence is going to keep a cat out, the fence in your case is just an excuse.
@@maxsdad538 excuse me what? I’m literally the owner of my pets, never again after that fence went up did my cat or any other animal under my care have any close calls I don’t know what you classify as an “excuse” but my reason for putting up the fence was because I have a duty of care to other living creatures do not for a moment assume you know more about a stranger’s life than they do themselves.
And as for your other comment yes some dogs cannot swim and you could express a bit of empathy to OP as they did nearly loose their beloved pet and. once again you’re assuming to know more about another’s life when you clearly do not, stop doing that it makes you look like a pompous idiot.
@@maxsdad538 no????? It can save life's...
Dogs are good swimmers. That's not the problem. The problem is, were they shown where they can get out at (the pool steps).
Tip:
Don’t move to a place with HOA or deed restrictions
What about POA?
@@clipp7777idk what that is
It's Property Owner Assoc. Similar but different....but I'm not real good with this stuff.🌸
@@clipp7777 honestly if where you want to move had anything to say on what you do on your land, you shouldn’t live there. Why pay all that money just to have to deal with other peoples opinions
@@soimsha. holy cr_p isn't that the truth!!
move away from HOAs to really own your house. in an HOA, you actually dont own your house
You don't own something if you have to pay taxes on it every year.
@@zlord1199 thats why an HOA shouldnt be around. the government owns all the land
No one actually owns a house, you're just renting off the government.
Zion lords Taxes is still cheaper than rent
Zion lords foreal! Extortion
the HOA orders them to take down something required by insurance not to mention that fence serves as a HUGE safety net. The HOA members should be ashamed of themselves that they would rather have aesthetics over the safety and well being of children.
never ever understand why someone moves to an HOA controlled area.
Did the homeowner receive a copy of the covenants, conditions and restrictions (CC&Rs)?
People move into a HOA neighborhood because they expect to be the ones telling other people what they can do with their property.
Because they don't want to live next to someone who raises chickens and parks a 40 foot RV on their quarter-acre lot. HOAs are a double-edged sword.
Me either. Over 35 years of living on my OWN acreage and my own control of THAT acreage. Other than local laws, of course.
@@lauribricker9439 they all do...but the HOA is asking her to put her family (and even the lives of others) on the line. That is not enforceable.
This is exactly why we looked for a house in a neighborhood with no hoa. This is ridiculous.
when we move that will be my number one requirement
that was non-negotiable when we were deciding where we wanted to build. I REFUSED to live where a HOA was.
Yup, most everyone knows to avoid them like the plague. I would NEVER live in any kind of HOA. None.
Not all HOA’s are like that. When we moved in our new home the fence was after the kids bedroom windows we sent a request to the HOA to move the fence for safety of the kids. They approved in less than 24hrs. That family just needs to sue them, safety always comes first. Knowing your HOA committee and attending those meetings they are recorded and asking them face to face whether the fence is more important than the death of your child puts them in a liable spot.
@@cloroxbleach2581 Same in I buy a house and pay a ridiculous amount of taxes to the government I am going to do what I want on the property.
I propose a 28th amendment to the Constitution: Prohibition of Home Owner's Associations.
Over stepping boundries hoa.
@@engineclinic is a joke
I definitely agree.
Only time HOAs make sense are attached homes/apartment houses that share a continuously lot. I dated someone who was on an HOA board and he was as dramatic and ridiculous as they seem.
Well that contradicts the already established Right of Association, so i'm guessing you must be a "rights are cool as long i agree with them" trumpster
Petition all neighbors to remove all the HOA members, replace them with sensible members from the neighborhood, and remove the stupid rules they made.
And do as the lawyer said, sue them first so once they lose in court they can pay for your court fees.
HOA’s need to be banned in the US. There’s absolutely no reason why somebody should have the right to tell you what to do with your property.
The only pro of having them is keeping up the value of your property .
The government cannot ban free association. I wouldn't live in an HOA either, but nobody stuck a gun to their head and said "buy this property with an HOA". There are plenty of areas to live in that don't have an HOA.
Well they don't have a right but you join the HOA and agreed to let them tell you to do stuff
But it IS NOT your property. Buying into an HOA is almost always a long-term lease, and one of the terms allows the HOA to set limits on your use of their property.
yeah BUT people who are buying homes need to do their research. HOA is design to keep out certain races they don't want among the whites exclusive for the privileges'
When I hear HOA I imagine someone’s bored nosy mom telling a neighborhood how to live. I would never want to live somewhere with an HOA.
I have lived in a few HOA's and most of them are old people who like to have control over things.
It's more older retirees or semi-retired people. For certain though, it's people who enjoy being able to push other people around and tell them what to do. Sadly, the opposite type just never tries to get on HOA boards so it's a self-fulfilling prophecy sort of thing.
And that's exactly what they are
You spend so much money on your home only to be told by someone else how to live in it. YAY AMERICA home of the free!
ken and Karen. lol
Rule number one of buying a house.
Does it have a HOA? Yes
Bye.
Never ever buy a property with a HOA.
We need an update on this case ASAP!
The HOA is clearly after this family for some reason we don't know about.
their color?
Being Indian?
@@vondahe I don't know if she is an Indian but may in wrong neighbourhood
RACE
Absolutely , doesn't mean its color like Most are saying . Could be another dispute, like values, morals, etc.
Many HOA boards are run by retired folks and stay at home mom’s. These people tend to have little to do and are a nightmare to deal with. 🤦♂️
So true! They use the HOA as a method to seek revenge on people they don’t like
Or they're the Gladys Kravitz neighbor, whose nose is in everyone else's business. "Abner! ABNER!"
@@arinerm1331 the millennials are scratching their heads over this comment.
@@Carl-LaFong1618 Not all of us. :-)
The affliction of people with too much time on their hands...
Not sure who’s sillier, the HOA or the people that sign their rights over to an HOA. I think they’re all nuts 😂
They lie to you. They tell you it is to keep the price of the house up. It's all a scam.
In some places it's hard to find a place without HOA.
In the Houston, TX area, it’s almost impossible to buy a house that isn’t in an HOA community.
I dont think most people realize how strict they can be until it's too late
@@rabbit0664
So end HOA Scam !!!
The U.S. is weird. Constantly complaining about the government touching "muh freedoms".
But also establish HOAs to micromanage every aspect of your largest investment.
Cause it only matters to them when they can’t control it
When PTA moms get a taste for blood, it will never be quenched.
Lmao
Nicholas Byram lol😂🤣😁
My friend lives in a neighborhood with a HOA and apparently his neighbor was told to take down the ramp he put by the front door steps, which he needs because he is in a wheelchair.
Update: friend’s neighbor gets to keep the ramp :)
That's sick.
Violation of the ADA, HOA will lose.
What the heck? What is wrong with those people??
@Black Buick so silly
that's fcked up
I’d legit pull the race card if I was her, and I’d tell the hoa either crack down on everyone or expect a lawsuit for discrimination as its unjust to single one person out when many are breaking their rules
Id actually like to see that
I disagree, pulling a race card and falsy filing a lawsuit would be a criminal offence if she lost.
@@GentlemenWithSticks thats not a criminal offence sue'ing anyone if you feel discriminated will never be a criminal offence
@@GentlemenWithSticks i wouldn’t say it’s false, it’s entirely possible that this is a race issue, especially considering the other home with a pool fence isn’t being hassled.
@@BunnyH-pq5jt fair point, but I wasnt against that. Pulling the race card 's definition is using using ones race to gain a false advantage.
I owned a house with an HOA, once. Never again. My first question when looking at a property is whether or not there is an HOA. If yes, that is an absolute deal killer.
Rule # 1. Never buy a house in an HOA controlled division
Rule # 2. See rule 1 if undecided
@veronica carlson who gf cares about the property value? Most people buy a house and never leave
I know of a home owner in a very exclusive neighborhood in Houston, who installed a side door and was told he needed to remove it. After a long battle with them, he had to remove it but he painted his home in ridiculous colors, purple, chartreuse, pink. It was such an eyesore!!! Turns out, they did not have any rules regarding house color 😝
😂😂😂 I love it!!!
Chartreuse pink 🤣
The BEST!!! How you like me, NOW!!!
I’m here for this kind of petty
I think I would have just moved.
There could be a 4th possible solution, depend on the state, gather all the homeowners and sue to disban the HOA.
now your talking.
Best comment.....
i have a 5th scenario. since they are so adamant in having the fence removed, and since it's there for safety, have the hoa board members and officials held personally responsible if any deaths or accident occurs after the removal of the safety fence
Bantham Nobilis no more power and no more embezzlement of HOA fees to the board members.
That's the best solution yet!!!!
So much for being ‘free’ and ‘my freedom’. In Australia it is a mandatory requirement that every pool has a pool fence installed. Pool fences save many, many lives each year. HOA boards are simply a power trip for weak a/holes.
Uhh your "association guidelines" are not compliant with insurance LAW. Who TF do these people think they are?
They don't want her to take the fence down they want her to pay for a more expensive one that looks the way they want
That's not a law, the insurance company just refused to cover if they didn't have a pool fence. This doesn't mean they have to have the fence by law, just to get it insured.
Source: I have an insurance license
Theres no such this as insurance law...lol
They don't like her. They're assholes. They're gonna lose.
BlackEquinox - That's incorrect, it's the highly visible (corner lot) units that need a more presentable fence. They can still have a fence, it just can't be the cheesy plastic.
I just watched another one where they wanted the trees down to see a playground... pretty much all I learned is that the HOA want access to your property.
"Big Brother" type to the max. No privacy, no freedom.
Oh, did you see the one where the HOA mandated that everyone must keep their garage door open 24/7 to "make sure nothing illegal" is going on?
@@spocksvulcanbrain yeah, that is how I arrived to this video! Clicking on that garage video haha.
*“Its ugly take it down"*
*“I dont care if it saves lives, I WANT MY BEAUTIFUL WINDOW SEAT!”*
_Who let karen out again?_
Huh
@@Ronnie86753 That's went right over your head🤣🤣🤣🤣
Exactly 🙌
@@lovelyrich54 no you infant ....I got it . And stfu
@@lovelyrich54 learn how to spell !!! He types “that’s went” and then comes for me . Lol
Yet another HOA making a problem where there isn’t one. Don’t get rid of the pool fence, get rid of the HOA.
Quit buying in HOA’s and they will quit making them. Usually full of Little people on power trips, never a good thing.
My first home had an HOA. Lived there for 8 years. After all the hassle decided to sell and move out when they declined my deck design. I just said screw these people. I now live in a single home residential area. Can do as I please to my backyard. Never been happier.
Did you get a permit for that?
Yay!! same here had many problems with my HOA about 6 months after i moved into my house but my house caught fire and burned unsure how it caught fire😜😜 collected the insurance $$ and moved😂😂
Your design sucks, idiot that's why it was declined.
I used to work for a company that handled billing for multiple HOAs and I saw how crazy they were. They would fine you for the smallest things and could send you into foreclosure. They had more say on the homes than the actual homeowners.
So the hoa lives happily ever after in their home after foreclosing your home huh
That news agency went all out with flying a helicopter for this segment.
Haha I was just thinking that...like dang they really flew over to see 😂🤣
First comment I saw without the word HOA in it
Drone.
campkira I think a helicopter is more likely than a drone. As with a drone people would be likely to harass the operator then a helicopter hovering in the sky. Although a drone would be more cost effective.
It's a drone...
They harass only whoever they want. Board members usually lives in the neighbors and if you’re their buddies, you can get away from a lot things. If you’re not, then they’ll harass you living nightmare
My friends mom befriended them for that exact reason lol. Acts all friendly with them so she can do what she wants with her house, and they never call her out
Sue the HOA. They can’t change their minds that fast. Idgaf about how your subdivision “looks”. I care about my children LIVING!
HOA = neighborhood Nazis
Hometyrants association
Jared Z no soup for you!
Sure are
Cute but please don’t compare it it’s not OK
Yisroel Rizel yeah it is.
I don't get it. Buying a house, question #1 - is there HOA? #2 - How many bedrooms? ... That's how important that is. HOA, nope. Bye.
sue the damned HOA for violation of your deed restrictions, or lack there of regarding pool fencing.
One reason why I'll never live in a HOA area. Paying extra money, just to be told how to live in the home I pay a mortgage & property taxes, GTF out of here with that BS!!!
It’s state law it doesn’t matter what the home association says it’s state law you need a safety fence around your pool it’s also required by her insurance they have no argument against us
The HOA is rules require the fence be Iron not plastic (depending on interpretation of Privacy Fence clause),
as the was explained by the 3 options: Remove it, Replace it with Iron, or Sue.
If the law makes option 1 Remove it invalid, then replace it with iron or sue. They should sue, sounds like they should win re "Privacy Fence" not pool
Its a stupid law.. its your own fuken house, at your own fuken risk!! Land of the free right? Why arent you free to have a fuken pool with out safety at your own house...?
Its not like its a god dam public place 🤦🏽♂️
@@isailopez4132 HOAs see a house as a public space. Other wise you could do whatever you want. It exists to tell a home owner their design ideas are outside the accepted norm. They are the fashion police for houses.
@@rwbimbie5854 According to the story the HOA makes no mention about pool safety fences, just property fences. And Texas law states that leaves it up to the owner about the type of pool fence they want to install.
I had to fight with my HOA over my freaking radon mitigation system. Unbelievable.
one more reason not to live in a HOA community
The NAZI's know as HOA's
Well most aren’t like this soooo...
@@Fan-sl6de I've only ever encountered a single HOA community I didnt hate and that was only because the community voted not to renew and the HOA and its lease is set to expire in a few more years then dissolve and turn public. other than that, they've all been pretty awful.
bordone sorry that has happened to u but they aren’t all the same
I would like to have an HOA whose rules are guided by reason and moderation, not greed for making house values go up quickly. Better still, an HOA that encourages ugly things to keep taxes down. Loll. 😝
I loathed my HOA. I drove away from that money pit and the Nosy Nancys in the HOA with a Cheshire Cat grin and a raised middle finger.
I believe it was Obi-Wan Kenobi who said of HOAs “you will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy”
wasn't animal farm about something similar????
lmao
Cross referenced and this checks out. This was well before Luke blew up the biggest HOA in the universe.
Love the use of that quote! It fits perfectly!
you sounds like yo do love a lot star wars
The fence actually looks fine and has the added advantage of preventing pets, debris and babies falling accidentally into the water.
Someone remind me why anyone would agree to be part of an HOA again...
To keep the poors out.
Laziness
@@nicchauvin1096 they made themselves poor in the process lol
@@nicchauvin1096 Just move to an expensive town, no poor people. I live in a very expensive town in the Northeast. No poor people. Just very pricey homes with high property taxes. I can do what I want with my property I must add.
Those are developments. The developer in order to get his permits agrees to have a HOA. Then when you buy your lot or your house it is part of the deed. Why do cities require that? So they don't have to maintain the roads and common ground.
Last time an HOA tried to dictate a piece of my property on my yard, threatening it had to be removed or they would, I told them if they tried...lead would a problem to their overall health. I had already won the legal court battle and they were ordered by a judge not to interfere any further and make no attempt at retaliation. But they were butt hurt about losing and made the treat about taking my property from my yard. So, I responded in kind.
Two years later,
The HOA in my neighborhood was dissolved due to illegal practices, including theft, harassment, intimidation, extortion, and public defamation.
Not suprised. I would have said =If you trespass, you'll catch 9MM
An HOA just adds an additional uncomfortably, often expensive, pain in the neck layer of governance to your life. Freedom is just a distant memory.
Freedom was always a farce. We were lied to from the start.
Nobody should ever buy a home in an HOA. I guess if you don't want any control over your property, but I like having the freedom to do what I want with what I own.
When I purchased my house, was specifically told I legally had to have a fence there as long as I had a pool because I'd be liable if neighborhood children wandered into my yard and drowned somehow. Crazy that they would be so opposed to that...Plus it's a nice looking fence, not something trashy.
I wouldn’t want to live in a neighborhood with HOA. Telling me what I can and can’t do with my property.
Not to mention you'd be paying for that privilege.
The problem is almost all subdivisions have HOAs.
Told my wife a long time ago. WE WILL NEVER LIVE IN AT AN HOA. You don’t truly own your own home, they can tow away your cars if they wanted.
So the HOA favors kids’ drowning as long as the neighborhood looks “nice.” Good grief!
Insurance company: "You must have a pool fence."
HOA: "By no means can you EVER have a POOL FENCE ON A CORNER LOT REEEEE"
Also HOA: "But these other lots with pool fences are fine tho"
This is what happens when you move to a ritzy neighbourhood like that lol ppl life in a fantasy world and have nothing better to do in life but complain about petty things lol
Hard not to wonder what the race is of the families with the other pool fences.
fences are required by law let alone insurance companies
Not to mention the news team found another corner lot house with the same type of fence.
My guess is the HOA had a recommended fencing company that they secretly were getting kickbacks from. And got angry when these people didn’t use them
I have been saying this since the 70s..."never Never NEVER live in a house that is part of an HOA...NEVER!!!" I don't care if the house is FREE! You will pay for it in fees, court costs, lawyer & attorney fees, fines, etc.
An is only used before a word starting with a vowel. Try saying it out loud before typing if you can't comprehend this simple rule (there are only 5 vowels after all) and no need to thank me.
@@michaelreilly3513
It depends on the sound of the letter!
Try saying "a HOA" verbally?!
It's an HOA!
Same thing with "unicorn". It's a unicorn...not an unicorn.
@@dreamlover4128 That is incorrect. Google it dear and you will see. Do not try and correct me, I know English. H. O. A. You say the letters, not as a word, and there is No AN before a word starting with H. The only time you can use AN is before words starting with a VOWEL. This rule is not interchangeable with sound. Dumb, stupid, and an idiot you are.
@@dreamlover4128 Thanks my FRIEND. 💖💖I know that we (you and I) are correct.👍👍
@@michaelreilly3513 I won't but I WILL thank you for taking the time out to read and respond irrelevantly to my comment.
My HOA in TX tried to fine me for getting a roof repair via insurance claim. They made me apply for for permission to get the repair after the fact. I sold the home, then bought another house in a very nice non-HOA neighborhood.
You had to get permission to fix your roof? What??? Omg.
Pool fence is not an eyesore, it adds value to the property?
HOA needs to mind their own business. Homeowners purchased and paid for their own property. Hoa needs to stay out of everybody's business unless crime is involved.
Who died and gave them the right to control what people can do with their property.
They need to stop collecting nonsense yearly HOA fees from residents in the subdivision.
What do they do with the money they collect from everyone, every year? It's not for neighborhood property maintenance or installing fence. Or security system.
They really need to stop minding people's business.
HOA is the neighborhood government!
Don't buy homes in Hoa subdivision, they put liens on people's house . Fees are ridiculous, $800 a year for amenities. For what special features or benefit (for the subdivision resident)?
Most of the time, 95 % of the people in the subdivision don't use the amenities that they offer. They built these amenities without asking the residents and slap the cost onto everybody. That lives in the subdivision.
I can't beleve how everybody just accept one group of people to boss everyone around in their own subdivision and tell everyone what they can and cannot do with their home and property after they buy the property with their hard earned money.
Your house and the land is a constant collateral (if you default on the Hoa fees).
The land your house sits on is never yours after you pay off the house. If you default on yearly property tax that never goes away (a lien gets attached to the house).
We don't need another form of government in the neighborhood, who is constantly watching you and your house 365 days a year (24/7).
People buy house, don't harass homeowners. What they do with their prperty is not your business. Let them enjoy what they have achieved with their hard earned money.
Everybody needs to vote the HOA out of their communities.
Most counties/towns have laws that require a fence around a pool. The HOA does NOT and CANNOT over rule laws
c3pfett This is pretty much what I understand the hierarchy of regulations to be