Hi. Hope you're good. Lots to unpack in this and Im really lookung forward to the series continuing and going deeper into some of the stuff you brought up. You did ask for. (hopefully constructive ) criticism so....a couple of very minor points ( both are metric/ imperial conversions ). About 1 min 30 you say the dead sea has been falling by about 1.5 m or 3ft per year . The graphic says 4ft and 1.5m is actually closer to 5ft . Second , round about 23 min in you mention the plates sliding past each other at about 2in per year but the graphic you have up says 4 to 5 mm ( not cm) . I don't know which figure is more accurate. Apologies if you see my comments as irrelevant nitpicking. I bring them to your attention as you say you are going to talk about how long it'd take for different rock layers etc, to form . In which case, the numbers may well be critical to what you ( and the science ) are saying. As an aside , metric / imperial conversion errors can have very real world consequemces . NASA lost its mars climate orbiter mission due to a mix up over such a conversion.
yeah, in editing I noticed both of these. this is where I'm kicking myself for not having good video editing software that would allow me to add a note or voice over. This is on my list of things to do over break. Find better software up my video editing skills.
@DrJoelDuff a dinosaur when it comes to tech stuff. Truth is though, I really enjoy your videos and think they're really well made and thoughtfully put together. So ta again for them. Hope all the YECs watch them. Hope everyone watches them😀
Quick observation, although your statements about diminished inlet water certainly is correct, surely at least some of that water is eventually ending up in water tables in the drainage basin. After all, when a park in Jericho that gets watered, although some of that evaporates, some of it soaks in and eventually gets down to the Dead Sea. I've heard that there are places in Saudi where the water tables are increasing enough to create new ponds/lakes in the desert because they are desalinating so much water that ultimately gets into the ground.
That is a good point. I will be talking about the springs and their sources later in the series so the fresh water sources feeding it through water table is something that will put a lower limit on how much it call fall in the future.
@@DrJoelDuff I expect you have plenty of resources, but in case you weren't aware, the Israeli geological survey publishes high detail geologic maps of the country. They are kind of a pain to find on their website: egozi.gsi.gov.il/WebApps/Geology/Geo50K_KeyMap/
Pro-tip for those visiting, though Ain Gedi is more famous, the hike at Ain Bokek to the south is, in my opinion, every bit as good and far less crowded... and also free of charge.
I wonder what would happen if they dug a giant canal from the Med to the Dead Sea? How long would it take to fill up and will the salt levels ever equalise? {:o:O:}
Even if it filled up the salt levels would be much higher in the basin. Water would evaporate pulling in more water from the Mediterranean and it would just get saltier and saltier over time. It does seem it was connected in the past and this is just what happened resulting in massive salt deposition because of near continuous inputs of salt water.
Not necessarily...you could dig two canals tunnels really and use the tides to equalize the salt content over hundreds or thousands of years... depending on the size of the tunnels@@DrJoelDuff
Dr. Duff, my ears perked up when you spoke of earthquakes and sinkholes, while showing that photograph of what you called a valley. I know earthquakes can form canyons in a matter of minutes; watch some video of the, i believe, 2023 earthquake in Turkey. Well, in my mind, you opened the door for people to think that the Grand Canyon's canyon could have been formed in short order....thanks. 1 John 4:10,11
The Grand canyon is in a stable sedimentary rock type stratigraphy...completely different geologically then the horst and graben dead sea geology...The Grand canyon and the dead sea weren't formed in 6000 or 600,000 years...and the earth isn't six thousand years old no matter what the old testament says
Sorry for the nitpick, but as a geologist, I've only heard the pronunciation of Quaternary as kwa-TERN-ary, not KWA-ten-ary. Otherwise, good content as always. 🙂
What happened to the idea of changing your channel name? I seem to recall you asking for ideas and it seemed to go on for weeks. Did you just change your mind? {:o:O:}
That was a long time ago or if more recent that was debating wat to call this series of post about the Dead Sea. I had some other ideas for the channel other than my name but none gathered much support. Then the question has been if I should drop the Dr. Feels a bit portentous to me but most people say its better so I've kept is there.
@@DrJoelDuff Yes, it was a long time ago. People were suggesting things like _"Interesting Stuff from Dr Duff"_ and _"No Duff Stuff with Dr Duff"_ (Duff meaning "bad, not useful" in Anglo-Australian slang, although I think in the US it's a sort of fruit pudding!) But I think the name is fine as it is, anyway. {:o:O:}
27:36 My goodness. How you labor to squeeze your square peg into a round hole! Clearly, you esteem the Uniformitarian view over the Biblical, and so feel entitled to denigrate the Biblical without justification. The Bible has a very clear explanation for the formation of the Dead Sea. The account given in Genesis has it that around 3,000 years ago the region was lush and fertile. The sin of the people of Sodom and Gomorrah was such that God had to obliterate the cities on the plain. The nature of that destruction was by a rain of fire and brimstone (sulphur). The result was the instantaneous desertification of the entire valley. The geological upheaval brought about by the catastrophe led to the geological phenomenon that are observed today. The matter is simple: either one accepts the Biblical account, or one doesn't. The environmental and geological evidence is not ''proof'' of anything: it is merely evident.
It says that 1 day in heaven is as a thousand yrs on earth, so if heaven had a 365 day calendar that would equate to 365 thousand yrs on earth scholars need to remember that when calculating time & events on earth
I'm so glad I stumbled across this. I can't wait to see each episode. Looks like a few are already waiting for me! :)
Welcome aboard! Thanks so much for checking it out. I'm having fun doing this.
Eager for the rest of this series. Thanks for putting in all this work for us all to benefit from! Super interesting stuff.
❤❤❤ 😊😊 Thanks! ❤
Hi. Hope you're good. Lots to unpack in this and Im really lookung forward to the series continuing and going deeper into some of the stuff you brought up. You did ask for. (hopefully constructive ) criticism so....a couple of very minor points ( both are metric/ imperial conversions ). About 1 min 30 you say the dead sea has been falling by about 1.5 m or 3ft per year . The graphic says 4ft and 1.5m is actually closer to 5ft . Second , round about 23 min in you mention the plates sliding past each other at about 2in per year but the graphic you have up says 4 to 5 mm ( not cm) . I don't know which figure is more accurate. Apologies if you see my comments as irrelevant nitpicking. I bring them to your attention as you say you are going to talk about how long it'd take for different rock layers etc, to form . In which case, the numbers may well be critical to what you ( and the science ) are saying.
As an aside , metric / imperial conversion errors can have very real world consequemces . NASA lost its mars climate orbiter mission due to a mix up over such a conversion.
yeah, in editing I noticed both of these. this is where I'm kicking myself for not having good video editing software that would allow me to add a note or voice over. This is on my list of things to do over break. Find better software up my video editing skills.
@DrJoelDuff Afraid I can't help on the tech front. I'm not proud to admit to being a bit of
@DrJoelDuff a dinosaur when it comes to tech stuff. Truth is though, I really enjoy your videos and think they're really well made and thoughtfully put together. So ta again for them. Hope all the YECs watch them. Hope everyone watches them😀
Quick observation, although your statements about diminished inlet water certainly is correct, surely at least some of that water is eventually ending up in water tables in the drainage basin. After all, when a park in Jericho that gets watered, although some of that evaporates, some of it soaks in and eventually gets down to the Dead Sea. I've heard that there are places in Saudi where the water tables are increasing enough to create new ponds/lakes in the desert because they are desalinating so much water that ultimately gets into the ground.
Also, that relief map seems super exaggerated to me.
@@adamredwine774
It's not. When looking at colour-coded contour maps we don't get a real sense of the 3D topography.
{:o:O:}
That is a good point. I will be talking about the springs and their sources later in the series so the fresh water sources feeding it through water table is something that will put a lower limit on how much it call fall in the future.
@@DrJoelDuff I expect you have plenty of resources, but in case you weren't aware, the Israeli geological survey publishes high detail geologic maps of the country. They are kind of a pain to find on their website:
egozi.gsi.gov.il/WebApps/Geology/Geo50K_KeyMap/
Yet the water diverted and evaporated lowers the total of water in the basin
This is fantastic! It's going to be a great series.
{:o:O:}
Pro-tip for those visiting, though Ain Gedi is more famous, the hike at Ain Bokek to the south is, in my opinion, every bit as good and far less crowded... and also free of charge.
I wonder what would happen if they dug a giant canal from the Med to the Dead Sea? How long would it take to fill up and will the salt levels ever equalise?
{:o:O:}
Even if it filled up the salt levels would be much higher in the basin. Water would evaporate pulling in more water from the Mediterranean and it would just get saltier and saltier over time. It does seem it was connected in the past and this is just what happened resulting in massive salt deposition because of near continuous inputs of salt water.
Not necessarily...you could dig two canals tunnels really and use the tides to equalize the salt content over hundreds or thousands of years... depending on the size of the tunnels@@DrJoelDuff
@@douglashanlon1975 two tunnels with check valves maybe but with out check valves the water would just flow east as water evaporates
Dr. Duff, my ears perked up when you spoke of earthquakes and sinkholes, while showing that photograph of what you called a valley. I know earthquakes can form canyons in a matter of minutes; watch some video of the, i believe, 2023 earthquake in Turkey. Well, in my mind, you opened the door for people to think that the Grand Canyon's canyon could have been formed in short order....thanks.
1 John 4:10,11
If the grand canyon formed in that way, scientists would have kniwn and said so by now.
The Grand canyon is in a stable sedimentary rock type stratigraphy...completely different geologically then the horst and graben dead sea geology...The Grand canyon and the dead sea weren't formed in 6000 or 600,000 years...and the earth isn't six thousand years old no matter what the old testament says
Not to mention horst and grobin vallies tend to be parrell and straight. The Grand canyon is anything but straight
Sorry for the nitpick, but as a geologist, I've only heard the pronunciation of Quaternary as kwa-TERN-ary, not KWA-ten-ary. Otherwise, good content as always. 🙂
I’m with you Ted, and I value correct pronunciation highly as a retired English teacher.
I've always heard the opposite. It probably depends on where you learn your geology.
The whole point of setting fiction in a real place is it makes the con easier.
What happened to the idea of changing your channel name? I seem to recall you asking for ideas and it seemed to go on for weeks. Did you just change your mind?
{:o:O:}
That was a long time ago or if more recent that was debating wat to call this series of post about the Dead Sea. I had some other ideas for the channel other than my name but none gathered much support. Then the question has been if I should drop the Dr. Feels a bit portentous to me but most people say its better so I've kept is there.
@@DrJoelDuff
Yes, it was a long time ago. People were suggesting things like _"Interesting Stuff from Dr Duff"_ and _"No Duff Stuff with Dr Duff"_ (Duff meaning "bad, not useful" in Anglo-Australian slang, although I think in the US it's a sort of fruit pudding!)
But I think the name is fine as it is, anyway.
{:o:O:}
27:36 My goodness. How you labor to squeeze your square peg into a round hole! Clearly, you esteem the Uniformitarian view over the Biblical, and so feel entitled to denigrate the Biblical without justification. The Bible has a very clear explanation for the formation of the Dead Sea. The account given in Genesis has it that around 3,000 years ago the region was lush and fertile. The sin of the people of Sodom and Gomorrah was such that God had to obliterate the cities on the plain. The nature of that destruction was by a rain of fire and brimstone (sulphur). The result was the instantaneous desertification of the entire valley. The geological upheaval brought about by the catastrophe led to the geological phenomenon that are observed today.
The matter is simple: either one accepts the Biblical account, or one doesn't. The environmental and geological evidence is not ''proof'' of anything: it is merely evident.
like a world view flood 4000 years ago
modern day myth making is an art form for a doctor
It says that 1 day in heaven is as a thousand yrs on earth, so if heaven had a 365 day calendar that would equate to 365 thousand yrs on earth scholars need to remember that when calculating time & events on earth
Remain silent until you find the buckets of horse semen that ezekiel was so enthralled with.