I have read a lot about failed bearings on the hks supercharger unit, which could be an issue later on. How long have you had your kit installed? And is it a V2 or V3?
@@glenmiester I don't think HKS would make something that fails that easily.. Probably lack of maintenance. Any modified car can't be expected to be 100% reliable anyway.
When I bought my 86 I called a mercedes dealership and asked if they had a car that was a manual and they said they had this "thing" bought it sight unseen over the phone and its been the coolest "thing" ive ever driven
For all the people asking this is basically a cross between a turbo and a twin screw supercharger, this HKS kit is a centrifugal SC which means it builds boost with the RPMs basically like a turbo but with instant power response. The HKS V3 SC kit starts off with around 6 psi at around 2500rpm and anything above 5000rpm it is 14 psi. You can use the pulley upgrade kit which will produce more boost if you want. I’m about to get it installed in the next couple of months and gonna push 260 - 280rwkw (350-375hp) at the wheels on stock internals.
Another great (and entertaining) video summary of a quality product. 👍 Good points made about the revisions in V3 and the separate oil cooling. I was leaning toward turbo charging but since I plan to track my car your point made about heat was well taken. Can you comment about Todd Gribble’s post regarding the need to chisel the block for clearance?
Looks a lot similar to KRAFTWERKS supercharger kit.. I already have the KW kit installed on my car, the parts quality is soooooo good and power levels are kinda identical.. We would love a comparison video between the 2 kits and which one is better and more reliable. I Love your work guys From kuwait
@@mrchone84 I've heard you can get a lot more power from the Jackson Racing with a smaller pulley. I've also heard Vortech uses the same rotex empeller but a different separate belt set up with your stock belt doing stock things and a bigger belt that powers the supercharger. Little less power but great videos and customer service. But they're spendy.
I've seen the parts list from HKS with also a turbo and I've seen the supercharger as well, is it's possible to use both of them at the same time? This is really a tough decision but if I could use both and twin charge my 86 it would be great, hoping to get some answers
Yes and no. It’s possible to do but would probably cost exponentially more because of all the custom stuff you’d need to fit everything together. Plus it would be extremely complicated to fix if anything goes wrong. On top of that you probably wouldn’t see too much of a performance gain as the 2 systems would just be filling in the cracks for each other and not adding an extreme amount of boost everywhere unless you want to blow your motor
I have this exact kit from ft86. I had graham tune the car took a little longer then I thought but that was on me giving him a different email address. I had no problems with the v3 up until I bent a connecting rod but I do drive the hell out of my car. So I'll be rebuilding soon and still using ft86 I spent a pretty good penny with them never let me down
I'm still waiting on my UEL headers from HKS, I don't want to go and get other parts till I have my headers on with my tune to see how much of a difference in power and maybe sound it makes. I did a muffler delete as a temp sound improvement so maybe the headers rumble will come through a bit more with that.
I installed some new headlights on my 86 and even switched the flasher that it came with but my lights still arent sequential when I signal left or right. Any idea as to why?
I have this kit on my Frs and I’m glad to say that it is a very good kit and definitely a good investment, however I do not recommend getting the flash editor kit because the tune is garbage.
@@freddyflirt15 Vortech is too expensive. Its between HKS and Jackson racing. Although I think Jackson is really solid kit. I'm leaning to the HKS v3 for the plug and play 93rom for the 2018brz. I also want to customize the routing for the air intake since the HKS lines up right at the factory air box. Also of course its HKS. Either one is a good pick imo.
Something I recently was told was the HKS kit can't measure charge intake temps. Anyone know why this was not done? Any issues with tuning on this kit?
With both Turbos and Supers on the market for the BRZ I'm smelling an insane twin charge build done by someone crazy enough to do one in the near future.
Ppl say 350 bro but thats pushin it id say reliably daily driveable no issues should be around 300whp anything above ur motors gonna be dancing with the devil
Oh Noes Datu what about regular street driving and maybe highway driving like once or twice a week? I'm sure the stock internals would be safe doing that, right?
There's always a trade off right? Either it's fairly efficient gas-wise, but you wait till 4k for power, or else it's got more pull low-end but it drinks like a fish. What would you go with?
@@reganmcgrory3358 thank you, i ask in case it happens, becasue it might happen. Also to ensure that you can get the vehicle home. Also did you get this on your vehicle? I have questions on cylinder heads, and the fuel management. If you dont mind
I do too and have bought thousands of dollars worth of parts but they can be so hard to get ahold of when you have an issue**. I bought an ECUTek tune that, after months of emailing (cause you can’t call), to this day it still doesn’t rev match which was a selling feature I selected. They have excellent parts selection, great informative (and entertaining) videos yet their service after the sale is lacking from my experience. No hate just calling out an opportunity to improve. Hope you’re reading this FTspeed. ** (installing the tune, logging data, and enabling selected tune options features)
The brz has been out for 8 years it's pretty much all covered by aftermarket parts and the supra is nearly at its 2 year mark so we just gotta wait till next gen 86/brz
It’s definitely very quiet compared to your average muscle car SC whine. If you like the whine you can get more of it by changing your intake. I’ve been through 3 different intakes. The Perrin intake gives the HKS SC the perfect sound in my opinion. Only downside is you have to modify it cuz the damn intercooler gets in the way and the front bumper has to come off to clean the filter. But its a true CAI with good flow.
I hear you and was thinking the same but the point made about the separate oil cooling got me thinking about that benefit for tracking the car (lots of heat) and ultimately long term reliably. Thoughts?
Ethan de Groot Sorry but you are wrong. The engine is not always taking boost. That’s what the bypass valve is for. It works the same way as a turbo’s blow off valve. When the throttle body closes, the bypass valve opens and reroutes the pressurized air from the manifold side of the supercharger to the filter side. Everything is regulated. You shouldn’t make misinformed comments if you don’t understand. It confuses people. No offense, just speaking truth and clearing that up for you.
Ahh hks the most underwhelming overpriced kit on the market. And you have to replace the whole oil systems when hks or rotrex superchargers fail because they are friction drive and any contaminants wil instantly kill the new headunit.
Mo’ powa baby!!!
Hey you stayed till the end! 😘
@@FTspeed goodbye Theo.
UH MOH POWA BABEH, god I love Donut and seeing this channel reference it makes me love it more
@@cedrictheveneau9141 reference what?
I bought my toyota 86 because of your channel!
HECK YEAH! Enjoy the build
These are great , I have an HKS supercharged 86, big difference over stock and so reliable , instant power , so much fun 💫
I have read a lot about failed bearings on the hks supercharger unit, which could be an issue later on. How long have you had your kit installed? And is it a V2 or V3?
@@glenmiester I don't think HKS would make something that fails that easily.. Probably lack of maintenance. Any modified car can't be expected to be 100% reliable anyway.
Price?
"You should have a manual anyways"
When I bought my 86 I called a mercedes dealership and asked if they had a car that was a manual and they said they had this "thing" bought it sight unseen over the phone and its been the coolest "thing" ive ever driven
* shots fired *
Love the autoshaming
@@dkuhn5043 haha I grantee you saved a good bit of coin over the years driving it’s rather than Mercedes’
Dude you said 151 hp instead of 251 for 91 octane.
Right, i was confused
no body is perfect i like this guy
Ye true
Yes, he really did.
I was telling myself that I don't need more power. But here you are.... to convince me D:
The truth will set you free
For all the people asking this is basically a cross between a turbo and a twin screw supercharger, this HKS kit is a centrifugal SC which means it builds boost with the RPMs basically like a turbo but with instant power response. The HKS V3 SC kit starts off with around 6 psi at around 2500rpm and anything above 5000rpm it is 14 psi. You can use the pulley upgrade kit which will produce more boost if you want.
I’m about to get it installed in the next couple of months and gonna push 260 - 280rwkw (350-375hp) at the wheels on stock internals.
Any updates? How is the car handling now after 2 years?
can you push more hp than what its stated in the website ???
Bigger intercooler would give it more power right , the one thatd comes with the kit looks small
Another great (and entertaining) video summary of a quality product. 👍
Good points made about the revisions in V3 and the separate oil cooling. I was leaning toward turbo charging but since I plan to track my car your point made about heat was well taken.
Can you comment about Todd Gribble’s post regarding the need to chisel the block for clearance?
Looks a lot similar to KRAFTWERKS supercharger kit..
I already have the KW kit installed on my car, the parts quality is soooooo good and power levels are kinda identical..
We would love a comparison video between the 2 kits and which one is better and more reliable.
I Love your work guys
From kuwait
We will at least do an install and review of the HKS system.
Also greeting from Iowa!
Can you do a review of the new Gt2 kit?
250 HP on 91
320 HP on E85
Derick I thought I was hearing things.
@@mrchone84 I've heard you can get a lot more power from the Jackson Racing with a smaller pulley. I've also heard Vortech uses the same rotex empeller but a different separate belt set up with your stock belt doing stock things and a bigger belt that powers the supercharger. Little less power but great videos and customer service. But they're spendy.
i hope you guys do an install video for the Supercharger?
Oh we will. Dont you worry.
FTspeed nice!
I've seen the parts list from HKS with also a turbo and I've seen the supercharger as well, is it's possible to use both of them at the same time? This is really a tough decision but if I could use both and twin charge my 86 it would be great, hoping to get some answers
Yes and no. It’s possible to do but would probably cost exponentially more because of all the custom stuff you’d need to fit everything together. Plus it would be extremely complicated to fix if anything goes wrong. On top of that you probably wouldn’t see too much of a performance gain as the 2 systems would just be filling in the cracks for each other and not adding an extreme amount of boost everywhere unless you want to blow your motor
is this with upgraded internals? interested with this kit but dont want to have to build the engine or pray for it not to blow up
It’s not with forged internals, with stock internals these cars can hit around 400+hp without anything going wrong.
I have this exact kit from ft86. I had graham tune the car took a little longer then I thought but that was on me giving him a different email address. I had no problems with the v3 up until I bent a connecting rod but I do drive the hell out of my car. So I'll be rebuilding soon and still using ft86 I spent a pretty good penny with them never let me down
I feel like Thomas should be in Wes Andersons next movie
That would be funny.
is there a similar kit for the 2nd gen brz? Or is this kit compatible already?
I'm still waiting on my UEL headers from HKS, I don't want to go and get other parts till I have my headers on with my tune to see how much of a difference in power and maybe sound it makes. I did a muffler delete as a temp sound improvement so maybe the headers rumble will come through a bit more with that.
This may sound dumb but will it work on a 2017 brz, the kit says only up to a 2016, but it basically the same except for the face lift
I installed some new headlights on my 86 and even switched the flasher that it came with but my lights still arent sequential when I signal left or right. Any idea as to why?
I drive an auto.......:(
Im debating on this kit and the edlebrock supercharger
nick ishizaki save up to get a manual instead :)
nick ishizaki I’m with you here my guy just be proud of the auto
@@timwillcox6031 i love the auto in these cars tho
The auto is amazing. The edlebrock supercharger is built better but more $$
Auto gang rise up
When are you guys getting the updated GT2 kit?
I see on the website it says between 2013-2015, will not not work for the 16? The style doesn't change until 17?
getting this for my BRZ ts 2020
did u ever get it
It was James "Kentucky Cobra" Pumphrey behind after you said moh powa baby?
I have this kit on my Frs and I’m glad to say that it is a very good kit and definitely a good investment, however I do not recommend getting the flash editor kit because the tune is garbage.
Yep - go with Ecutek
So how can I find out what intakes and headers fit with this kit I've had trouble finding anything
I was just researching this kit for the past week
Curious about what you've found in your research. Have you compared it to the Jackson racing kit? Or the vortech?
We know. We were watching...
@@FTspeed lol creepy!
@@freddyflirt15 Vortech is too expensive. Its between HKS and Jackson racing. Although I think Jackson is really solid kit. I'm leaning to the HKS v3 for the plug and play 93rom for the 2018brz. I also want to customize the routing for the air intake since the HKS lines up right at the factory air box. Also of course its HKS. Either one is a good pick imo.
@@FTspeed hmmm
I saw some pics of the kit online. Would it fit with most aftermarket intakes? I have Perrin cold air intake.
Go with a JDL turbo kit with a built motor and almost push 500 or just add this and have 300+ for half the price
For a lightweight street car that's also a daily, 250hp is enough fun. For competition, obviously the better option.
I really love the supercharger kit, what do you think the sprintex kit?
looks like it makes more lovely supercharger sound.
I'm in between the vortech supercharger and the HKS v3 supercharger. Which is better?
Something I recently was told was the HKS kit can't measure charge intake temps. Anyone know why this was not done? Any issues with tuning on this kit?
Shoooow install lmao and is it carb legal 🥺
Install video is in the works. Carb legal.... uhhh how sneaky are you?
Actually it nice question it is carb I live in Norway and it socks if you stop with it and it’s not carb
I'm running JDL header and exhaust, can I install this without changing them? Thanks
With both Turbos and Supers on the market for the BRZ I'm smelling an insane twin charge build done by someone crazy enough to do one in the near future.
Im curios could the universal v3 work for a 118hp 1.6L at 150-200 hp range with a tune
how much HP can this F20 STOCK internals can take safe without breaking other things ?
It really depends I think. People say 350WHP, some say 400WHP. Some have blown in way lower numbers too.
Around 350 HP mark. That's when the stock internals can get unreliable.
Ppl say 350 bro but thats pushin it id say reliably daily driveable no issues should be around 300whp anything above ur motors gonna be dancing with the devil
@@ricardocardenas4150 I agree with you on that for sure. It also matters how you drive too. A lot of factors to consider.
Oh Noes Datu what about regular street driving and maybe highway driving like once or twice a week? I'm sure the stock internals would be safe doing that, right?
Does this version still required cutting and shaving
How often do you need to change the HKS Traction Fluid?
So the cheaper tune it yourself doesn't work on autos?
I've had this kit for 2 years and I still dont know can I put a blow off valve on this set up or is it a bad idea?
Don't do it
Can you do a DIY install video of this kit?
yes we will! It is in the works
Is there an installation video?
That's a nice supercharger!
Facts
can this supercharger kit installed with a BOV?
Can you please make a video with this system installed
Would it be too much to ask when y’all do instal it to do an install video?
We will be making an install video. Don't you worry.
*fist pumps*
Can i install this thing on my is200?
I finally install this supercharger. Great so far. But it only came with a 91 and 85 tune.
E85 is the max tune. It can go up to 319hp.
Is it carb compliant?
I got the v3 supercharger but it came in black though
Notification squad 🔥🔥
YES the SQUAD IS HERE!
Squad role call!!
You'll feet it at 4k rpm. Below that it's just natti-like. If u want more low-end, go for twin scroll.
The basics.
There's always a trade off right? Either it's fairly efficient gas-wise, but you wait till 4k for power, or else it's got more pull low-end but it drinks like a fish. What would you go with?
I’ve been set on getting a turbo since I got my 86... but now I kind of want this supercharger instead
It's a tough decision. If you've already installed a header you can use it with a supercharger.
Its not a tough decision get the supercharger instant throttle response fun fun fun. No turbo car is fun
For everyone that lives is the sucky state of California like me will it still be Cali carb legal... I hate asking that but I have to...
No.
waittt is it a turbo or a super... or is it both...
Is it no problem installing it on the stock engine?
As long as you don't change the pulley for a high boost pulley this it should be fine to run on a stock motor
Will this fit a 2017 + BRZ?
Have they tested it in Iowa winters?
Eventually, we will. Winter's just about over tho.
Only place I buy from for my 86
Love hearing that! Thank you, Christopher!
If the belt goes on this kit, is the car still able to drive?
ENCINAS g technically yes. You’d be running very rich tho. Wouldn’t recommend driving very far on it
@@reganmcgrory3358 thank you, i ask in case it happens, becasue it might happen. Also to ensure that you can get the vehicle home. Also did you get this on your vehicle? I have questions on cylinder heads, and the fuel management. If you dont mind
I have this kit on my frs
How do you like it? Would you care to share with the class?
FTspeed Very fun but wish the supercharger and blow off valve would be louder
Robotmonkey4282 no u dont
Aw nuts, so much for waiting and saving up money for it, this shits gonna fly off your shelves now! Save one for me, please!!! \o/
I love this shop 😘
We love you :D
I do too and have bought thousands of dollars worth of parts but they can be so hard to get ahold of when you have an issue**. I bought an ECUTek tune that, after months of emailing (cause you can’t call), to this day it still doesn’t rev match which was a selling feature I selected. They have excellent parts selection, great informative (and entertaining) videos yet their service after the sale is lacking from my experience. No hate just calling out an opportunity to improve. Hope you’re reading this FTspeed.
** (installing the tune, logging data, and enabling selected tune options features)
What's the price of this kit and is it recommended?
www.ft86speedfactory.com/catalogsearch/result/?cat=0&q=hks+v3+supercharger
is this carb legal?
No. Nothing good is legal in commiefornia.
Is this fine with stock internals?
Yes, it’s all about the amount of power you want it to make which decides whether you have to build the motor or not.
151 horsepower? That’s it!?!?
He fucked up its 250 hp total about a 80 hp increase on 91
It's an economy car.
manual comment is clear indication that this guy is not a car guy, just some dude with a shotty hobby
We're sorry you feel that way. Your transmission preference shouldn't define whether you're a "real" car enthusiast or not...
Hp?
Is this smog-legal in California?
No. Cali sucks.
Is the HKS SC kit carb legal???
No.
So if it has a turbo isn’t it technically a turbocharger
Turbo charger or supercharger
👍
So whats stopping someone from just having a seperate oil reservoir for their turbo
Nothing but time and money.
Bro this is turbo right?
No, it's a supercharger.
Do the install mans
We will in the near future.
Is it 50 state legal?
No. Cali sucks.
Supercharger? Why is there a turbo on the table
Did you watch the whole video?
Install video?
Coming soon
🔝👌
One day...........Actually you can go ahead an send that to me.
No problem, Just uhh order it first :P
@@FTspeed dam you guys didn't need to do me dirty like that lol.
Please ass More vids on the install and testing!
I think 250 Hp should be enough
For a reliable daily, yes!!!
Thomas for 2020
HA, you're funny
This is turbo charger not super charger
But it is not CARB legal :(
Ya might need to move to be legal ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
No. Not legal.
Just 319hp?!?!?!?
That'd be fine--if it was with 91 or 93 octane.
It's more than enough for a 2800lb car bro. Why would you want more?! If you want more, get an old chevy.
I feel like they’re slowly phasing out 86/frs/brz videos for Supra
The brz has been out for 8 years it's pretty much all covered by aftermarket parts and the supra is nearly at its 2 year mark so we just gotta wait till next gen 86/brz
1st!
Cost your first child.
Jokes on you I'm not having kids
but is this a whiny boy
It’s definitely very quiet compared to your average muscle car SC whine. If you like the whine you can get more of it by changing your intake. I’ve been through 3 different intakes. The Perrin intake gives the HKS SC the perfect sound in my opinion. Only downside is you have to modify it cuz the damn intercooler gets in the way and the front bumper has to come off to clean the filter. But its a true CAI with good flow.
Can't believe you're actively marketing this POS. Hundreds of stories of the supercharger failing in under 10k miles...
Turbo>supercharger
Fax
No u rong
I hear you and was thinking the same but the point made about the separate oil cooling got me thinking about that benefit for tracking the car (lots of heat) and ultimately long term reliably. Thoughts?
Gary Barton you can do that w a turbo too. A turbo would probably be more reliable anyways bc the engines not always taking boost
Ethan de Groot Sorry but you are wrong. The engine is not always taking boost. That’s what the bypass valve is for. It works the same way as a turbo’s blow off valve. When the throttle body closes, the bypass valve opens and reroutes the pressurized air from the manifold side of the supercharger to the filter side. Everything is regulated. You shouldn’t make misinformed comments if you don’t understand. It confuses people. No offense, just speaking truth and clearing that up for you.
Anyone here have this and if so hows the reliability for long term? Would like to run this on factory internals
Ahh hks the most underwhelming overpriced kit on the market. And you have to replace the whole oil systems when hks or rotrex superchargers fail because they are friction drive and any contaminants wil instantly kill the new headunit.
lol it's far from the most over priced kit on the market. but good for you for bashing it anyway.
can this be installed on the 2017+ models
Yes it can