A little weird humor for you : In Canada, they come labeled "Aksa" not panzer, they have the M1014 full length mag tube and there is no mag restriction. But it does come with a plastic dowl in the tube. The irony is not lost.
I have an OG M4 and a Panzer that I got 2-3 years ago. Runs great, and as you noted, is 1:1 compatible with any aftermarket parts that fit the Benelli. Turkish shotguns have a not unearned spotty reputation for, ah, shall we say "variable" quality, but Panzer seems to have gotten it right. My own personal name for the wave of M4 clones is the "Turknelli M-Faux".
"1:1 compatible with any aftermarket parts that fit the Benelli" That's not 100% accurate, there are a number of aftermarket parts that don't fit. I got a magazine extension tube for mine, made for the M4, which didn't fit. Have yet to find one that fits.
Hey eric, don't forget to keep smiling my friend. There's so much going on in the world these days sometimes we could lose sight of the stuff that made us who we are. Don't forget to have fun brother! Let's see some more videos like this
Ive been wanting a Benelli M4 for years until I found out about this one. Purchased the marine coated one last night. Going to carry 200 rds to range the friday after I receive it for break in. Thanks for the video from one Iraq Vet to another. Sub^
They're definitely worth the money. Only malfunctions I've had was due to the ammo being less than 1350 fps. I've shot 1345 and 1330 fps and it cycled perfectly tho.
DON'T do it. I've owned two. One worked well, mostly. Required several parts from Benelli to run reliably, but I don't trust it anymore. The second one was a complete disaster. Good luck with warranty service. No, they are NOT clones. They are copies and poor ones at that.
I bought the MAC 1014, went to the gun store to have a look at it and was really impressed. Even the guy behind the counter was impressed. Really well packaged and the wood was beautiful. The beech was smooth and just felt great.
I love mine! The very first 5 rounds I had to rack the charging handle each time, S&B slugs. I was nervous at first, then I ran fiocchi defense with no issue and after that it ran everything flawlessly , #7 birdshot , old dusty turkey loads I had laying around and the S&B slug sport and defensive. approximately 200 rds in total. happy camper as of right now.
When I bought my Beretta 1301 tactical, I didn't even clean it or oil it, out of the box I ran 300 shells of that cheap value pack crap you buy at Walmart, 200 shells of that cheap fiocchi like Eric ran in the video, and some Remington buckshot and slugs. I only had one failure, which was I didn't bring enough ammo! I ran out way to dang fast! It runs like a sewing machine, no failures of any kind. My dad's Charles daily has a fte or ftf I swear every five to ten shots, which is why I won't shake a stick at Turkish shotguns. Hopefully Panzer will be the exception to the rule, but I'm hoping James does a shotgun burn down test on one eventually. I know Panzer supposedly did their own, but we all know when a manufacturer is gonna market their product, they will make sure it's the best of the best, otherwise it's counter intuitive to market their product.
@@alexanderthagreat840 Yes, indeed they did (and it lived - I saw that video). However, another YT channel did one, and their's came apart at shell number 504, so I'm looking for a 3rd data point.
I bought the Tactical model early last year and put all the goodies on it; i.e., collapsible stock, extended mag tube and oversized charging handle. I made sure to follow the manufacturer's advice and first put 100 high-brass shells through it to break in the gas system. After that, it has run 100% everything I have put in the tube, from slugs to that cheap-ass Walmart red-hulled skeet shot. The gun doesn't care, I can even mix the loads up and it still runs them. Will it last 10,000 rounds? My grand kids will let you know.
I'm intrigued by its affordability and the potential to mimic the performance of the Benelli M4. Definitely worth a closer look for those on a budget looking for a reliable semi-auto 12ga shotgun.
If you want a reliable shotgun on a budget, go with a Maverick 88. Reliable and budget in terms of semi auto shotguns mixes about as well as oil and water. People hyped up those Black Aces shotguns so much for a while there and when it came to a 500 round test, failure, big time. For the occasional weekend warrior, hey, have at it, but for anything serious or if you want a shotgun to last a lifetime, the investment is worth it.
I’ve had my panzer m4 for 2 years now. Purchased it new for 300 bucks. I had 2 fail to feeds in my first 15 rounds fired. Then it never missed. I’ve got 300+ rounds through it. It’s been cleaned once. Not one issue. About 200 of those rounds have been either #7.5 or #8 federal birdshot. I personally like it better than my beretta 1301 tactical. Less recoil.
@ mine is a first gen panzer. Before they came out with that speed pro version I guess you would call mine just a standard model, standard for-end and non-adjustable pistol grip butt stock.
I just saw one at a local gun store! I was very impressed. I don't go to anyplace else to watch you. I don't have time to go to all these other places. I'm on you tube and rumble.
i bought my panzer m4 last year and so far i only had 1 time the gun didnt work properly and it was my second shot, but after charging the bolt it ran perfect. so far have only put 200 rounds through it but i would say its a wonderful gun
Thats insane, $500... Have a H&K Benelli M1 Super 90 bought new in 94, $749... friend I worked with had an FFL, so that was dealer cost in 94... Now Im watching this and cant believe it's 30 yrs old... Full tube, 8+1, ghost ring, pistol grip etc... Still 99.9%... Love the walnut furniture on that!!!
I bought the same deal in 94 on an M1. LOVED that gun. Said I'd never sell it. Fell on hard times in 2010 and sold it for $800 and it broke my heart. Can't afford a new Benelli anymore prices are insane. Wish I could though. Just don't know about these clones.
This is the one I just purchased at Buds for 570.00 out the door (tax/insurance). Picked up day after Thanksgiving. I haven't shot yet but guys and gals......the walnut is beautiful.....fit and finish is awesome too. I lived in Turkey for 3.6 years and they make a lot of weapons out of this fine wood. The grains are amazing. I shot quite a few different ones with my Turkish friends while stationed in Adana, Incirlik AB. Great video Iraqveteran8888.
The gun just amazes me. Saw some military shooting them one day at my club aand inquired about them. When the told me they were clones I could not believe it. I bought one and he has ran and ran and ran. I have shot a ton, my son, his friends, loaned it out to club members and on and on. Just a terrific shotgun. One of the best deals in the shooting world!
I bought a Panzer a couple years back and have been pleasantly surprised. I know they were hit & miss with the heat treat on the pistons and bolt carrier, and I figured if mine ever went bad, I’d buy Benelli replacements and still be under half the cost of its Italian idol.
My M4 panzer ran smoothly out of the box. No issues. Fed high brass, low brass, and cheap Walmart ammo. No issues at all. The only part not interchangeable is the + 2 magazine tube. Panzer arms does make them; however, can not import them
I've been wanting so bad to get one of these but was waiting to see a review from someone I consider reputable now I gotta get my gun shop to order one
I'd suggest to not buy this shotgun on an impulse. Want a good reliable shotgun and don't have one, the Maverick 88 is a great option, otherwise I'd highly recommend saving up and buying the real deal, which has a reputation and a genuine warranty to back it up. My dad has gone through over five Turkish shotguns over the years because each one seems to have problems, pumps, semi autos, even some over and unders. I had a Remington 870 for almost 16 years with thousands upon thousands of shells fired through it and it never failed me. Then last year picked up a Beretta 1301 tactical and yeah it was pricey, it ran flawless and eats anything fed into it. It's worth the money for a quality investment if you ever plan to bet your life on it or if you're an avid shooter. For the occasional 20 shots here and there and maybe some hunting, then whatever floats your boat, but if you buy one and have an issue with it, you'll always be second guessing it's reliability, especially when you may need it most.
Had mine for a few years. I love it. After break in, it will eat anything I throw at it. GGG single point sling, collapsible stock, Dave's Metal Works extended mag tube, Carlton breacher choke, Hayl Rail forend and a Mesa Tactical solid aluminum side saddle. I was thoroughly impressed. Unlike other Turknellis, this company QC's their parts.
Cool video. Love the enthusiasm. Turkey firearm game is looking nice. I still prefer the made in USA stamp, but budget allowing its nice to know you can thrash on a quality budget firearm. Ive got a Taurus. Great example of capitalizing on an old but quality patent.
@Iraqveteran8888 I've seen reports from some other UA-cam gunners that these Panzer M4 clones fall apart quickly after less than 500 rounds... Cheap steel reportedly the reason. Would like to see you run a few hundred rounds through this gun and report your findings.
Great Video ! I've been looking for a newer video on the Panzer Arms M4 . I'm thinking of getting the Marine version with the skeleton stock ... I already have the multi-position butstock and a set of wood stocks for it ! Go Panzer !!!
I couldn’t go Turkish anymore too many issues so I ponied up for a beretta semi automatic and glad I did, the version he has looks nice wish my beretta had wood on it
Come on man what did that hominy ever do to you?😂 I've been waiting for this gun to come out. I can't wait to get my hands on one! God bless you always brother and thank you for producing your videos. 🙏
very nice... I like the wood. I put the +2 mag on mine... and velcro side saddle and another one on the stock... I can put 9 rounds in the gun and 13 more on the gun... one of my favorite budget buckshot ammo types works great
Great review Eric. I have one that im customizing and i love ❤ it. I swapped the 5rd mag to 7rds and added a plus one extension so if i ghost load i can get 10 in 😁. Many other mods as well. My trigger is currently at Briley MFG to get the last parts to remain 922r complient. I cant wait to unveil the final product.
Clearly a nice out of the box firearm at a fair price, needs no fuddish Gray Poupon scrutiny. I have a Made in Turkey 12ga Citadel semi and after it was properly tweaked it runs perfectly, no complaints for $200.00. I see lots of potential with the B clone.
I've got both the Panzer M2 and M4 clones. I love them both. They have never misfed or failed to load or failed to eject. They have been very reliable.
I appreciate your take on gun reviews, I used to follow you twitter before I gave up on that devil...I always liked how you didn't take crap from the gun grabbers.
For those interested. I have the panzer, $400. My son has the Benelli $1800. We purchased at the same time. We did not tear them down, we did not shoot high brass first on either of them. We have been shooting them side by side and are now at 500 rounds each. Both going great. My other son shot both and we did not tell him which was which. Conclusion, he thought the Benelli had a little less recoil and the Panzer was easier to load. Thats it.
Good video - BUT, they do NOT accept ALL Benelli parts. Mag tube extensions are PIA. I own the Marine version. Great gun, but the +2 extension is tough.
I run the Aksa S4. One to one compatable, as I have many parts made for the M4 in it. No issue yet. I understand many of these are made in the same factory.
The 26" Race gun M4 clone is exactly what I was looking for. I don't want a 18.5" shotgun because I actually use these to trap and skeet shoot every once in a while. Also the extra length just means more FPS. I was about to buy a Stoeger M2 Clone that was built out as a 3-gun race gun but this now interests me more.
This ran pretty good so far and Benelli's patents may be up, but I will reserve judgement on the quality until I see a good old fashioned Turkish shotgun burndown. Maybe James Reeves already did one. I'll check. ** U P D A T E ** I checked James' video, and he reviewed an SDS Imports Tac 12 (another Turknelli). So, not this gun, although there he did provide a link to someone else who had similar issues with the Panzer Arms Eric has here (300 rounds).
@@outdoorinwithzach I would prefer James's test over theirs. Reason being, they could have cherry picked that gun(s) for good marketing where James would buy one like you or I would and run it as is. Sure, Panzer might be the exception to the rule, but even if it is or was, I'd still trust a well known quality shotgun by a manufacturer who has a reputation of reliable firearms like Benelli or Beretta, even at three to four times the cost.
Hey recommendation buy a traxxas remote control truck and attach a moving target and have a buddy drive the truck around while you shot. And of course you want the target elevated 2-3 feet about truck like with metal or wood 1x1 or 1x2. It would make for more real life situations with a active shooter
My son has a pistol grip model and my buddy just got the wood stock model. Both are great shooters, my son has 200+ through without fail and my buddy has 20 slugs through his. Just keep the FPS above 1250 to start.
Mines a single shot, have to eject the spent shell and load the next by maunally charging it. Granted ive only put 50 buckshot through it but still, couldnt get it to run
Mine runs great with high brass, high velocity shells. Will not cycle less hot at all. I heard after 250+ rounds it breaks in and starts cycling. My Beretta A300 patrol has cycled everything right out of the box. Was exactly double the price of the Panzer, but worth every penny.
This thing just came on my radar. Considering it over the Beretta A300 because of my budget. The SPEED PRO has the M-Lok handguard and some ports to help with recoil. That is their NEWEST version. Like you said can fit any Benelli part, cheapest part is the stock on the Panzer M4. Other than that it looks good.
A Benelli was just simply out of the question. This gun shows that a good auto shotgun CAN be produced at an affordable price point Just moved to the top of my wish list
That is a good looking shotgun, I have an M4, great shotgun, have the Remington Versamax too, kind of a cross between a M2 and M4. M4s are not Inertia, it is ARGO, a gas system, dual piston, multiport.
I don't know if other Turkish clones do it, but the benelli/barretta licensed stoeger, comes with a bunch of packing grease, and has to be cleaned off, and lubed with oil, before running reliably.
Good video I did one as well. Mine absolutely won’t feed Fiocchi ammo. And I tried to interchange my benelli parts to my Genelli m4 won’t fit. But mine runs like a champ with Remington 00 buck and super x 00 and slugs
The jacket I'm wearing is my grandpa's Air Force jacket from the Korean War.
Is your grandpa the same grandpa that Edwin has? 😂
A little weird humor for you : In Canada, they come labeled "Aksa" not panzer, they have the M1014 full length mag tube and there is no mag restriction. But it does come with a plastic dowl in the tube. The irony is not lost.
at first glace i thought it was an ode to the great Paul Harrell!
@@BrianWalshTV same here, I need to get some myself now lol.
Love it bro
I have an OG M4 and a Panzer that I got 2-3 years ago. Runs great, and as you noted, is 1:1 compatible with any aftermarket parts that fit the Benelli. Turkish shotguns have a not unearned spotty reputation for, ah, shall we say "variable" quality, but Panzer seems to have gotten it right.
My own personal name for the wave of M4 clones is the "Turknelli M-Faux".
"1:1 compatible with any aftermarket parts that fit the Benelli"
That's not 100% accurate, there are a number of aftermarket parts that don't fit. I got a magazine extension tube for mine, made for the M4, which didn't fit. Have yet to find one that fits.
I dig the name you came up with
@@JohnDoe-yc7xqtry Dave’s Metal Works.
So you would trust this for home defense?
Hey eric, don't forget to keep smiling my friend. There's so much going on in the world these days sometimes we could lose sight of the stuff that made us who we are. Don't forget to have fun brother! Let's see some more videos like this
Eric has morphed into some odd combination of Hickok 45 and Paul Harrell
And bubbles from trailer park boys
@@eancola6111 😂😂😂. Bubbles. That’s priceless!
And it's a wonderful thing.
Nice call
I stopped watching Hickok years ago because of his cocky ego.
I bought a mag feed Panzer pump for $200, and it simply goes bang every time.
i BOUGHT STEVENS 320 ( WINCHESTER 1300 CLONE) WITH TWO BARRELS FOR $199
I like the furniture. Wood and shotguns just go together like butter and toast.
Ive been wanting a Benelli M4 for years until I found out about this one. Purchased the marine coated one last night. Going to carry 200 rds to range the friday after I receive it for break in. Thanks for the video from one Iraq Vet to another. Sub^
Holy crap.
These clones have become an option.
I think I need one.
They're definitely worth the money. Only malfunctions I've had was due to the ammo being less than 1350 fps. I've shot 1345 and 1330 fps and it cycled perfectly tho.
DON'T do it.
I've owned two. One worked well, mostly. Required several parts from Benelli to run reliably, but I don't trust it anymore.
The second one was a complete disaster. Good luck with warranty service.
No, they are NOT clones. They are copies and poor ones at that.
@@JD-tn5lzif one worked well and just needed a few parts then why not? Still way cheaper than a benelli even a used one.
I have no issues with mine. Clean it thoroughly once you get it and it will perform well.
I've had no issues with mine. A few issues to cycle when I first got it out of the box. Cleaned it well. Hasn't malfunctioned since.
I bought the MAC 1014, went to the gun store to have a look at it and was really impressed. Even the guy behind the counter was impressed. Really well packaged and the wood was beautiful. The beech was smooth and just felt great.
the guy selling you a fiat is actually impressed too!
@@gixxerlouislol
I love mine! The very first 5 rounds I had to rack the charging handle each time, S&B slugs. I was nervous at first, then I ran fiocchi defense with no issue and after that it ran everything flawlessly , #7 birdshot , old dusty turkey loads I had laying around and the S&B slug sport and defensive. approximately 200 rds in total. happy camper as of right now.
were the slugs under 1200 fps? I saw another video where the guy said that it wont run under 1200 fps loads.
@@westcoastwarriorsarchive7929 I made sure the first 50 rounds were above 1200. The S&B claims 1345 fps .
When I bought my Beretta 1301 tactical, I didn't even clean it or oil it, out of the box I ran 300 shells of that cheap value pack crap you buy at Walmart, 200 shells of that cheap fiocchi like Eric ran in the video, and some Remington buckshot and slugs. I only had one failure, which was I didn't bring enough ammo! I ran out way to dang fast! It runs like a sewing machine, no failures of any kind. My dad's Charles daily has a fte or ftf I swear every five to ten shots, which is why I won't shake a stick at Turkish shotguns. Hopefully Panzer will be the exception to the rule, but I'm hoping James does a shotgun burn down test on one eventually. I know Panzer supposedly did their own, but we all know when a manufacturer is gonna market their product, they will make sure it's the best of the best, otherwise it's counter intuitive to market their product.
@@toddk1377 he already did. He torture tested some other no name m4 clone and when it died decided they're all the same.
@@westcoastwarriorsarchive7929
That makes sense.
Great to see a video finally !!!
Eric - I'll wait for the TFBTV 500 round burndown test before I buy anything from Turkey; but thank you for the review - it is pretty.
My thoughts exactly.
The Stoeger M3000 Tacticool.
Panzer already did one that’s 500rds on their own UA-cam channel.
@@alexanderthagreat840 Yes, indeed they did (and it lived - I saw that video). However, another YT channel did one, and their's came apart at shell number 504, so I'm looking for a 3rd data point.
@@repentnow1720 still, that's 4 more than the regular 500 rounds that is usually the case. Not even the KSG was able to survive 500 rounds
I bought the Tactical model early last year and put all the goodies on it; i.e., collapsible stock, extended mag tube and oversized charging handle. I made sure to follow the manufacturer's advice and first put 100 high-brass shells through it to break in the gas system. After that, it has run 100% everything I have put in the tube, from slugs to that cheap-ass Walmart red-hulled skeet shot. The gun doesn't care, I can even mix the loads up and it still runs them. Will it last 10,000 rounds? My grand kids will let you know.
I'm intrigued by its affordability and the potential to mimic the performance of the Benelli M4. Definitely worth a closer look for those on a budget looking for a reliable semi-auto 12ga shotgun.
But will it pass the TFBTV James Reeves shotgun burndown?
No. No it won't.
If you want a reliable shotgun on a budget, go with a Maverick 88. Reliable and budget in terms of semi auto shotguns mixes about as well as oil and water. People hyped up those Black Aces shotguns so much for a while there and when it came to a 500 round test, failure, big time. For the occasional weekend warrior, hey, have at it, but for anything serious or if you want a shotgun to last a lifetime, the investment is worth it.
@@crushingexistentialismyou say no it won’t and I just watched a $100 clone survive it. I’d be willing to bet it would
I’ve had my panzer m4 for 2 years now. Purchased it new for 300 bucks. I had 2 fail to feeds in my first 15 rounds fired. Then it never missed. I’ve got 300+ rounds through it. It’s been cleaned once. Not one issue. About 200 of those rounds have been either #7.5 or #8 federal birdshot. I personally like it better than my beretta 1301 tactical. Less recoil.
Which model panzer m4? The speed version?
@ mine is a first gen panzer. Before they came out with that speed pro version I guess you would call mine just a standard model, standard for-end and non-adjustable pistol grip butt stock.
I just saw one at a local gun store! I was very impressed.
I don't go to anyplace else to watch you. I don't have time to go to all these other places. I'm on you tube and rumble.
As for the "longevity" aspect, you put more rounds through it than most people ever will.
i bought my panzer m4 last year and so far i only had 1 time the gun didnt work properly and it was my second shot, but after charging the bolt it ran perfect. so far have only put 200 rounds through it but i would say its a wonderful gun
That's one of the best-looking clones I've ever seen, and I usually hate clones.
Thats insane, $500... Have a H&K Benelli M1 Super 90 bought new in 94, $749... friend I worked with had an FFL, so that was dealer cost in 94... Now Im watching this and cant believe it's 30 yrs old... Full tube, 8+1, ghost ring, pistol grip etc... Still 99.9%... Love the walnut furniture on that!!!
I bought the same deal in 94 on an M1. LOVED that gun. Said I'd never sell it. Fell on hard times in 2010 and sold it for $800 and it broke my heart. Can't afford a new Benelli anymore prices are insane. Wish I could though. Just don't know about these clones.
This is the one I just purchased at Buds for 570.00 out the door (tax/insurance). Picked up day after Thanksgiving. I haven't shot yet but guys and gals......the walnut is beautiful.....fit and finish is awesome too. I lived in Turkey for 3.6 years and they make a lot of weapons out of this fine wood. The grains are amazing. I shot quite a few different ones with my Turkish friends while stationed in Adana, Incirlik AB. Great video Iraqveteran8888.
The wood furniture looks amazing!
The gun just amazes me. Saw some military shooting them one day at my club aand inquired about them. When the told me they were clones I could not believe it. I bought one and he has ran and ran and ran. I have shot a ton, my son, his friends, loaned it out to club members and on and on. Just a terrific shotgun. One of the best deals in the shooting world!
I’ve been curious about this one and have to say it looks good so far.
Love how eric was immediately stoked about those first shots. Nice shooting boss
it's impressive to see a Turkish-made shotgun rivaling the Benelli M4
TFBTV with James Reeves has a great "burn down" on this shotgun. He runs them for one thousand rnds or they break.
Well worth the watching.
It’s obvious you don’t watch his videos. James does 500 rounds on his shotgun videos
“Rivaling” would be a bit strong…. Maybe imitating at best.
@@Doublezzranchpretty sure, no Turkish auto or pump has survived his burn down videos… only Italians and Americans hold that honor.
Weeeelll, the savage Stevens 320 made that list recently and that's an American made in the PRC by sun city
I bought a Panzer a couple years back and have been pleasantly surprised. I know they were hit & miss with the heat treat on the pistons and bolt carrier, and I figured if mine ever went bad, I’d buy Benelli replacements and still be under half the cost of its Italian idol.
I love my Panzer arms shotguns. Thanks for doing this review.
Thanks Eric. Awesome!!
My M4 panzer ran smoothly out of the box. No issues. Fed high brass, low brass, and cheap Walmart ammo. No issues at all.
The only part not interchangeable is the + 2 magazine tube.
Panzer arms does make them; however, can not import them
Eric you just made my day bro when you said that can of hominy came apart like the death Star in Star wars literally made me laugh out loud.
I've been wanting so bad to get one of these but was waiting to see a review from someone I consider reputable now I gotta get my gun shop to order one
I'd suggest to not buy this shotgun on an impulse. Want a good reliable shotgun and don't have one, the Maverick 88 is a great option, otherwise I'd highly recommend saving up and buying the real deal, which has a reputation and a genuine warranty to back it up. My dad has gone through over five Turkish shotguns over the years because each one seems to have problems, pumps, semi autos, even some over and unders. I had a Remington 870 for almost 16 years with thousands upon thousands of shells fired through it and it never failed me. Then last year picked up a Beretta 1301 tactical and yeah it was pricey, it ran flawless and eats anything fed into it. It's worth the money for a quality investment if you ever plan to bet your life on it or if you're an avid shooter. For the occasional 20 shots here and there and maybe some hunting, then whatever floats your boat, but if you buy one and have an issue with it, you'll always be second guessing it's reliability, especially when you may need it most.
Nice to see the evolution of your growth and the channel. I'm impressed, I'm gonna have to look into this
I absolutely love your channel bro! Keep up that badass content!
Had mine for a few years. I love it. After break in, it will eat anything I throw at it. GGG single point sling, collapsible stock, Dave's Metal Works extended mag tube, Carlton breacher choke, Hayl Rail forend and a Mesa Tactical solid aluminum side saddle. I was thoroughly impressed. Unlike other Turknellis, this company QC's their parts.
The 26” model that you mentioned, would be a good pick for calling coyotes, for close work. As usual, you have a believable presentation.
Cool video. Love the enthusiasm. Turkey firearm game is looking nice. I still prefer the made in USA stamp, but budget allowing its nice to know you can thrash on a quality budget firearm. Ive got a Taurus. Great example of capitalizing on an old but quality patent.
Just got the same model... LOVE IT
Yup
Where's best place to get one?
Got mine from Classic Firearms@@robertelmo7736
I got mines from the palmetto state armory website
@@robertelmo7736 PSA has em
@Iraqveteran8888 I've seen reports from some other UA-cam gunners that these Panzer M4 clones fall apart quickly after less than 500 rounds... Cheap steel reportedly the reason. Would like to see you run a few hundred rounds through this gun and report your findings.
That's when you call James Reeves, he's the man when it comes to the shotty's.
I’ve run 300+ rounds through my panzer in the last 2 years. And I like it better than my beretta 1301 tactical. Less recoil and it works.
Yes!!! I wanna see it pur through the paces.
@@JohnpurteeWell some people actually use their guns.
@@Johnpurteeare you implying your Beretta does not work?
I have one and I love it. I also have a SDS S4 and I love it as well.
Great Video ! I've been looking for a newer video on the Panzer Arms M4 . I'm thinking of getting the Marine version with the skeleton stock ... I already have the multi-position butstock and a set of wood stocks for it ! Go Panzer !!!
I couldn’t go Turkish anymore too many issues so I ponied up for a beretta semi automatic and glad I did, the version he has looks nice wish my beretta had wood on it
fun watching you shoot. Thanks!
Come on man what did that hominy ever do to you?😂 I've been waiting for this gun to come out. I can't wait to get my hands on one! God bless you always brother and thank you for producing your videos. 🙏
I have never seen grits made in such a manner...I must keep his in mind...
very nice... I like the wood. I put the +2 mag on mine... and velcro side saddle and another one on the stock... I can put 9 rounds in the gun and 13 more on the gun... one of my favorite budget buckshot ammo types works great
where did you get the +2 tube from?
@@glockster68 I don't remember... I took it off my supernova... lol
Bought one a few months ago. Absolutely love it!
Great video , MM K
I have had mine for about a year. And I in the middle of my second case of buckshot. It has been 100% even with some reduced recoil skeet loads I had.
I'm good with a $1560 Beretta 1301...it costs more...but buy once, cry once and all that that
I have Panzer BP12 bullpup and love it.
Nice! Glad you finally got your hands on one. That wood furniture version might need to have a spot in my safe…
Great review Eric. I have one that im customizing and i love ❤ it. I swapped the 5rd mag to 7rds and added a plus one extension so if i ghost load i can get 10 in 😁. Many other mods as well. My trigger is currently at Briley MFG to get the last parts to remain 922r complient. I cant wait to unveil the final product.
Clearly a nice out of the box firearm at a fair price, needs no fuddish Gray Poupon scrutiny. I have a Made in Turkey 12ga Citadel semi and after it was properly tweaked it runs perfectly, no complaints for $200.00. I see lots of potential with the B clone.
I pick mine up on Sunday. My FFL is a gunsmith, so I had him install the mag tube extension right away.
Thanks Eric. Finally some decent news in the world
Been wanting to pick one of these up to play with. Really cool! Thanks for sharing!
Almost thought this channel wasn't about guns anymore for a while.
I've got both the Panzer M2 and M4 clones. I love them both. They have never misfed or failed to load or failed to eject. They have been very reliable.
Awesome video thanks for the years of entertainment, guidance, and knowledge!
I recently bought a MAC "M4" clone and so far I love it.
Fresh out of the box review is an excellent idea.
I'd like to see a long term reliability video at some point.
Looks great and if it functions well in the long term before I pick one up.
For sure, but on more than a few too. That's why I'm usually very wary of Turkish shotguns, one may work, the next one is a pile of 💩.
I appreciate your take on gun reviews, I used to follow you twitter before I gave up on that devil...I always liked how you didn't take crap from the gun grabbers.
For those interested. I have the panzer, $400. My son has the Benelli $1800. We purchased at the same time. We did not tear them down, we did not shoot high brass first on either of them. We have been shooting them side by side and are now at 500 rounds each. Both going great. My other son shot both and we did not tell him which was which. Conclusion, he thought the Benelli had a little less recoil and the Panzer was easier to load. Thats it.
Want one!
Good video - BUT, they do NOT accept ALL Benelli parts. Mag tube extensions are PIA. I own the Marine version. Great gun, but the +2 extension is tough.
Same for my M4 marine. The extensions are too long and the end cap doesn't engage the detent to hold it in place.
Waiting for the 26 inch barrel that's insane 💯
Ok I'm sold. I've been looking at shotguns lately and i think i just found the one. Thanks for the video Eric.
I run the Aksa S4. One to one compatable, as I have many parts made for the M4 in it. No issue yet. I understand many of these are made in the same factory.
Mine didn't ran that fiocchi 1250 low Brass at First, then after some high brass started fitting way better
The 26" Race gun M4 clone is exactly what I was looking for. I don't want a 18.5" shotgun because I actually use these to trap and skeet shoot every once in a while. Also the extra length just means more FPS. I was about to buy a Stoeger M2 Clone that was built out as a 3-gun race gun but this now interests me more.
This ran pretty good so far and Benelli's patents may be up, but I will reserve judgement on the quality until I see a good old fashioned Turkish shotgun burndown. Maybe James Reeves already did one. I'll check. ** U P D A T E ** I checked James' video, and he reviewed an SDS Imports Tac 12 (another Turknelli). So, not this gun, although there he did provide a link to someone else who had similar issues with the Panzer Arms Eric has here (300 rounds).
He did, it didn't go well
@@psycopaintball22 Link? Can not find what you talk about
The question is did he do a Panzer Arms M4 burndown or just a turkish clone burndown?
It wasn't a panzer arms. They did their own burndown for 500 rounds and it did great.
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I would prefer James's test over theirs. Reason being, they could have cherry picked that gun(s) for good marketing where James would buy one like you or I would and run it as is. Sure, Panzer might be the exception to the rule, but even if it is or was, I'd still trust a well known quality shotgun by a manufacturer who has a reputation of reliable firearms like Benelli or Beretta, even at three to four times the cost.
Got mine a month ago, got a safety harbor firearms 7 round mag tube and it runs like a champ, if you want I’ll dm you a video of me mag dumping it
Hey recommendation buy a traxxas remote control truck and attach a moving target and have a buddy drive the truck around while you shot. And of course you want the target elevated 2-3 feet about truck like with metal or wood 1x1 or 1x2. It would make for more real life situations with a active shooter
My son has a pistol grip model and my buddy just got the wood stock model. Both are great shooters, my son has 200+ through without fail and my buddy has 20 slugs through his. Just keep the FPS above 1250 to start.
Mines a single shot, have to eject the spent shell and load the next by maunally charging it. Granted ive only put 50 buckshot through it but still, couldnt get it to run
Update: Did not like the Fiocchi defense dynamic 00 bucks. It ran everything else I've tried thus far. It especially loves the Winchester Super X
Would love to see it after 1000 to 2000 rounds
Throw in a few boxes of 3-inch magnums I doubt it makes it there
It couldn’t make it to 500
Salty
I've got 1200+. Only 7 fail so far.
Mine runs great with high brass, high velocity shells. Will not cycle less hot at all. I heard after 250+ rounds it breaks in and starts cycling. My Beretta A300 patrol has cycled everything right out of the box. Was exactly double the price of the Panzer, but worth every penny.
Eric is a national gem. He is the best
This thing just came on my radar. Considering it over the Beretta A300 because of my budget. The SPEED PRO has the M-Lok handguard and some ports to help with recoil. That is their NEWEST version.
Like you said can fit any Benelli part, cheapest part is the stock on the Panzer M4. Other than that it looks good.
For $500 - $600 they are an absolute great buy.
A Benelli was just simply out of the question. This gun shows that a good auto shotgun CAN be produced at an affordable price point Just moved to the top of my wish list
I think I’m sold on this shotgun, thanks man.
That is a good looking shotgun, I have an M4, great shotgun, have the Remington Versamax too, kind of a cross between a M2 and M4.
M4s are not Inertia, it is ARGO, a gas system, dual piston, multiport.
I think I’ll pick one of these up. I’ve always wanted an M4 but could never justify $2,000 for a shotgun. Great review!
I don't know if other Turkish clones do it, but the benelli/barretta licensed stoeger, comes with a bunch of packing grease, and has to be cleaned off, and lubed with oil, before running reliably.
I'm getting one of these!!! Looks damn good with the wood furniture.
I got the MAC 1014 with the pistol grip. Should've held out for the wood furniture model. Looks sharp
You can pick up the set for a hundred bucks if you really want it...
That thing is awesome!
My son got one and he really likes it
God damn Eric, you look good with those glasses. For real the younger Hickok / Paul Harrell.
😂this was a good time and it shows! Thanks bro, you keep on keeping on
I like the walnut furniture.
Love the 70s glasses....
I love my Panzer M4! I haven’t had any trouble out of it at all.
have you actually shot it? lol serious question..
@@gixxerlouisThat is the kicker question. Most people don’t have problems with it, because they’re not shooting it like an avid shooter would.
How many rounds do you have through it?
@@favor4afavor823 define “through it”…rounds that actually fired? Rounds ran through the mag trying to clear malfunctions? Both? Lol
Very nice shotgun Eric
I like the walnut.. makes it better looking than the original..
Good video I did one as well. Mine absolutely won’t feed Fiocchi ammo. And I tried to interchange my benelli parts to my Genelli m4 won’t fit. But mine runs like a champ with Remington 00 buck and super x 00 and slugs
Oh, I like the price on that nice looking shotgun. Sure do like the wood finish. It sure ran well with those different types of ammo.
Impressive, I'm buying one, today
please don't and save your money. This company doesn't deserve your money.