I dont understand why people buy a combat shotgun and try to use weak loads. Its not a pump or a bird gun use full power loads and the shotgun will run like its suppose to.
Def money for practice as well as if its the only gun you have at the end of the world and all u can find is shit walmart loads it is nice to know it can run most anything. There are several good shotguns that will run almost anything no reason to buy anything that only cycles the good stuff.
The gun wasn't designed for light loads any body who uses a auto knows that unless the manufacturer designed it to use them.... buy a pump shot gun....
First video of yours I've watched. Watched for the torture test; subscribed because I like your sense of humor. Plus, you didn't let the broken stock cancel the test. Going to watch part 2 now.
@ 14:02 the stock has two pins. Looks like the one on the side has walked out (a known issue). A resulting issue of it walking out is the stock collapsing.
I have an 11-87 police and I used to have a Bretta 1201FP and neither would run anything below 1200FPS. That's just par for the course on semi-auto shotguns from what I hear. I also have a 11-87 20ga youth and it won't run cheap stuff very well either. I'm pretty impressed with how your Panzer ran. I haven't seen any of the Turknellies do that well.
I really want the panzer but i am worried about the reliability and what ammo to get. Do you think the "Rio High velocity 2-3/4...1-1/4oz...#8 shot with 1330 fps" would be good for the gun?
There's a set screw in the stock... It needs to be adjusted!!! You can tighten it all the way down and make it a fixed stock... You can put some locktite on the screw and set it to the position, where it will be adjustable ALL THE TIME (you must locktite it !!) If you don't... You will eventually loose the set screw and think the stock is broken 🤦♂️( go to home Depot and spend . 55 cents for another) This isn't rocket science... Idk why Soo many don't understand, how the stock works. I have thousands through my akas s4 ( same as the panzor) It's not the stocks fault... It was yours 🤷♂️ Change the stock spring... If you want to shoot birds shot. Even the "real" Benelli needs a spring change, to shoot brid shot... Who the hell wants to shoot birds shot, out of a defensive shotgun 🤦♂️ But ... You can if you want... You just can't be ignorant about your equipment and blame it, when it doesn't work, when its your own fault 🙄 I That said... I appreciate the video and gave you a 👍
I’ll look into that, but by all means, it shouldn’t happen. The stock is equivalent to high quality airsoft, no ifs ands or buts. That’s the difference between the Turknelli and the benelli, however on the positive end, I’ll be upgrading this Turknelli as it has proven itself worthy with functionality. I could dump 500 more into this gun and it’s still half the cost of a benelli. Love the thing despite the shotty furniture.🤘
@@TheHippieGunner actually the difference is about $1500 lol But you could always just add a mesa stock for around $150 and call it a day and still be wayyyy ahead of the game. You shouldn't have to know your gear 🤦♂️ That's not justifiable... You need to know your equipment, so it doesn't needlessly fail. Literally one drop of blue loctite and problem solved... Is that Soo hard to do lol I did it to mine and have over 1000rnds...it still hasn't failed 👍
@@ManJunk427 I missed the part where I said I don’t know my gear🤷♂️ haha Yes, I fixed the stock, I put a new pin in the side, there are two pins, one with a spring horizontal, and one vertical. Whilst the horizontal definitely has a lot of play in it, the vertical pin needed fixing outright. The mesa stocks are cool, but I figured I’d give the broken stock a second look.
Those who considring buying a panzer m4. I got mine in and it came with canted sights. Currently in for warranty work and I have to fight these guys to do something about it. Sad that they said my canted sights were "in spec" and didn't even bother to address the actual issue.
Odd and sorry to hear, so if you sent it in, why wouldn’t they just swap the barrel out? Seems like a no brainer to me, but maybe all the actual equipment is overseas. That wouldn’t sit right with me, like I said, I’m not paid by anybody (open to it lol) If they’ve done you wrong, people deserve to hear about it.
@TheHippieGunner ya they tried the barrel swap. But it's canted on the receiver, so barrel swaps do nothing. Thought it would be a no brainer, but they told me they were going to ship back my gun basically unfixed. So if they are going to hoe me, the customer, then I'm going to let everyone know how they treat customers.
That is not a heat gun. A heat gun is a like an industrial hair dryer type device used to heat up material or an object. The device you have there is an infrared thermometer. These tools have names for a reason please use them correctly. Imagine you told your buddy "Don't forget to bring your heat gun to the range tomorrow" and he brings an actual heat gun. Video ruined. Glen tock it pretty hard and spiraled in a deep depression. He started free basing Tylenol in cheap motels with +++ size escorts eventually taking his own life using a Harbor Freight extension cord. This tragedy can be avoided. I trust you will make better decisions in the future. For Glen.
Dude, those Panzer M4 clones will run 1050 FPS suppressed all day long. It is a joy to shoot clays with. No ear pro. I have one of the wood stock and wood forend clones. Other than the butt stock perpetually loose, it has been great!
I would drill and drive a roll pin through the tube and stock together in the open position. Just find a spot that doesn't interfere with the action in any way. That way you are GTG and can salvage that Sulun stock.
Appreciate the review, buy yourself a Beretta A300 Patrol. I’ve run Federal Flitecontrol Low Recoil 00 buck, velocity @ 1145 and it runs 100% mine shoots everything 100%
AAWWWWWW man! I was liking this gun and then the cool stock crapped out! I can’t believe you can load over three shells! I WISH! lol nice gun though and keep up the real work.
At least i will trust more with the cuts on the video that still you doing without stop, james reeves review torture test i don’t trust. Too much edit and cuts. Specially the Maverick test
It was a bargain when it was $300, but when demand picked up, theyre now $500+, which in my opinion is price gouging for THIS brand. I decided to bypass this toy and spend an extra $400 on a more reliable, faster cycling Beretta A300 Patrol. Im VERY pleased with it. Panzer gets credit for a fairly good product for the money, BUT spending $500 and up for it? Nope
You are a really cheap person. This is the most reliable budget m4 clone out there. Do your research before you start shitting on a brand. 300 bucks? That’s the price of a Taurus G3c 😂 gtfo here 500 is FINE for this
Lol...apparently it has a break in...and break apart period. This isnt the only you tuber that has publicly broken the CHEAP ASS Panzer ajustable stock ! This has got to be a total embarrassment for PANZER. We all know you get what you pay for. Im getting ready to spend my money on a combat shotgun and as a former Marine l wanted a Benelli but wanted to avoid a 2500 dollar hit so.....idk. maybe sleeping better at night is gonna cost me 2500. ??
I dont understand why people buy a combat shotgun and try to use weak loads. Its not a pump or a bird gun use full power loads and the shotgun will run like its suppose to.
$$$…and it did run.
Def money for practice as well as if its the only gun you have at the end of the world and all u can find is shit walmart loads it is nice to know it can run most anything. There are several good shotguns that will run almost anything no reason to buy anything that only cycles the good stuff.
I was told to only shoot over 1250 fps in mine. Doing so, I’ve never had an issue.
The gun wasn't designed for light loads any body who uses a auto knows that unless the manufacturer designed it to use them.... buy a pump shot gun....
@@GregD.-wl2nx 1301 does fine with weak loads.
First video of yours I've watched. Watched for the torture test; subscribed because I like your sense of humor. Plus, you didn't let the broken stock cancel the test. Going to watch part 2 now.
Bet it fires the 1200 fps after some break in or spring swap
1300+ fps is the magic range in my experience with budget semi shotguns.
Thank you for feeding the gun trash. All the other videos have been high brass.
@ 14:02 the stock has two pins. Looks like the one on the side has walked out (a known issue). A resulting issue of it walking out is the stock collapsing.
I have an 11-87 police and I used to have a Bretta 1201FP and neither would run anything below 1200FPS. That's just par for the course on semi-auto shotguns from what I hear. I also have a 11-87 20ga youth and it won't run cheap stuff very well either.
I'm pretty impressed with how your Panzer ran. I haven't seen any of the Turknellies do that well.
Thanks for the content, I appreciate the reviews
I really want the panzer but i am worried about the reliability and what ammo to get. Do you think the "Rio High velocity 2-3/4...1-1/4oz...#8 shot with 1330 fps" would be good for the gun?
Get something else. Panzer has terrible quality control. And terrible service so far.
@ 11:33 Kung Pow reference 😂😂
I ran into the same issue with the collapsible stock on my panzer m4
Buyer beware!!! i bought 2 and happened on both collapsible stocks
Looking forward towards part 2
There's a set screw in the stock... It needs to be adjusted!!! You can tighten it all the way down and make it a fixed stock... You can put some locktite on the screw and set it to the position, where it will be adjustable ALL THE TIME (you must locktite it !!)
If you don't...
You will eventually loose the set screw and think the stock is broken 🤦♂️( go to home Depot and spend . 55 cents for another)
This isn't rocket science...
Idk why Soo many don't understand, how the stock works.
I have thousands through my akas s4 ( same as the panzor)
It's not the stocks fault...
It was yours 🤷♂️
Change the stock spring... If you want to shoot birds shot.
Even the "real" Benelli needs a spring change, to shoot brid shot... Who the hell wants to shoot birds shot, out of a defensive shotgun 🤦♂️
But ... You can if you want...
You just can't be ignorant about your equipment and blame it, when it doesn't work, when its your own fault 🙄
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That said... I appreciate the video and gave you a 👍
I’ll look into that, but by all means, it shouldn’t happen. The stock is equivalent to high quality airsoft, no ifs ands or buts. That’s the difference between the Turknelli and the benelli, however on the positive end, I’ll be upgrading this Turknelli as it has proven itself worthy with functionality. I could dump 500 more into this gun and it’s still half the cost of a benelli. Love the thing despite the shotty furniture.🤘
@@TheHippieGunner actually the difference is about $1500 lol
But you could always just add a mesa stock for around $150 and call it a day and still be wayyyy ahead of the game.
You shouldn't have to know your gear 🤦♂️
That's not justifiable...
You need to know your equipment, so it doesn't needlessly fail. Literally one drop of blue loctite and problem solved...
Is that Soo hard to do lol
I did it to mine and have over 1000rnds...it still hasn't failed 👍
@@ManJunk427 I missed the part where I said I don’t know my gear🤷♂️ haha
Yes, I fixed the stock, I put a new pin in the side, there are two pins, one with a spring horizontal, and one vertical. Whilst the horizontal definitely has a lot of play in it, the vertical pin needed fixing outright. The mesa stocks are cool, but I figured I’d give the broken stock a second look.
Has anyone replaced the stock on the EG200?
Would be nice if these had some adapter for use mags, would make reloading quickly
Thank you for the video
Those who considring buying a panzer m4. I got mine in and it came with canted sights. Currently in for warranty work and I have to fight these guys to do something about it. Sad that they said my canted sights were "in spec" and didn't even bother to address the actual issue.
Odd and sorry to hear, so if you sent it in, why wouldn’t they just swap the barrel out? Seems like a no brainer to me, but maybe all the actual equipment is overseas. That wouldn’t sit right with me, like I said, I’m not paid by anybody (open to it lol) If they’ve done you wrong, people deserve to hear about it.
@TheHippieGunner ya they tried the barrel swap. But it's canted on the receiver, so barrel swaps do nothing. Thought it would be a no brainer, but they told me they were going to ship back my gun basically unfixed. So if they are going to hoe me, the customer, then I'm going to let everyone know how they treat customers.
Thanks for the hard work and entertainment!
That is not a heat gun. A heat gun is a like an industrial hair dryer type device used to heat up material or an object. The device you have there is an infrared thermometer. These tools have names for a reason please use them correctly. Imagine you told your buddy "Don't forget to bring your heat gun to the range tomorrow" and he brings an actual heat gun. Video ruined. Glen tock it pretty hard and spiraled in a deep depression. He started free basing Tylenol in cheap motels with +++ size escorts eventually taking his own life using a Harbor Freight extension cord. This tragedy can be avoided. I trust you will make better decisions in the future. For Glen.
1180 fps AND 1oz vs
1200 and up 1-1/8oz loads. It isn’t just the velocity difference.
Correction. It was 1-1/4 oz at 1200+ fps. Big difference between the two loads, not just 20 fps, but 25% more lead.
About to break in mine with some heavier 00b… heard about 200-250 rnds of heavier will break it in nice
Does the Benelli have the same issue with sub 1200fps loads?
I just watched the James guy do his m4 burn down and it had 6 failures to feed with birdshot
Dude, those Panzer M4 clones will run 1050 FPS suppressed all day long. It is a joy to shoot clays with. No ear pro. I have one of the wood stock and wood forend clones. Other than the butt stock perpetually loose, it has been great!
I don’t think my panzer skeleton stock is adjustable
Depending on where you bought it, they’ll throw it in with the deal
@@TheHippieGunner when’s your next update video? I’ve been very intrigued with these panzer m4 videos
@@jacobhill4632 it’s up right now, uploaded part 2 yesterday homie
@@TheHippieGunner oh shit! Thanks! So far I have watched all of them
I’ve. heard bad things about Herters ammo, no sure who produces it! About the stock, you’ll pay more for a Benelli stock than you paid for the Panzer!
What’s your opinion on a stock to get for it? I was gonna get the collapsed one from panzer but not after seeing that breakdown
I would drill and drive a roll pin through the tube and stock together in the open position. Just find a spot that doesn't interfere with the action in any way. That way you are GTG and can salvage that Sulun stock.
Was going to get this but saw the Beretta A300 patrol.
It’s your loads bro. It’s a tac shotgun it’s not meant to take weak loads
Great video. “I’m bleeding, making me the victor.”
Thank you!
Lock your bolt back for 1 month and oil it up good and you should be able to cycle anything below 1200
Appreciate the review, buy yourself a Beretta A300 Patrol. I’ve run Federal Flitecontrol Low Recoil 00 buck, velocity @ 1145 and it runs 100% mine shoots everything 100%
I like Panzer Arms pump shotguns. There Ithaca 37 clone is solid. Im hesitant on any cheap semi auto shotguns though.
Is it still running well? Considered getting the 37 clone but heard mixed things and was told to get a Mossberg for the money
@@brandonvaughn1200 Its running good and it runs mini shells too!
Slamfire?
Nice keep them coming
Just saved me $500
AAWWWWWW man! I was liking this gun and then the cool stock crapped out! I can’t believe you can load over three shells! I WISH! lol nice gun though and keep up the real work.
Did you really just add the word science to whatever it was you were attempting to do. 😂
“SCIENCE!”- Joey Diaz
Practice with what you plan to use for home defense not target rounds
$$$
@@TheHippieGunner only enough to get used to your weapon with the heavy ammo
Feel free to watch part 2
At least i will trust more with the cuts on the video that still you doing without stop, james reeves review torture test i don’t trust. Too much edit and cuts. Specially the Maverick test
Makine süper 👍👍👍👍
It was a bargain when it was $300, but when demand picked up, theyre now $500+, which in my opinion is price gouging for THIS brand. I decided to bypass this toy and spend an extra $400 on a more reliable, faster cycling Beretta A300 Patrol. Im VERY pleased with it. Panzer gets credit for a fairly good product for the money, BUT spending $500 and up for it? Nope
You are a really cheap person. This is the most reliable budget m4 clone out there. Do your research before you start shitting on a brand. 300 bucks? That’s the price of a Taurus G3c 😂 gtfo here 500 is FINE for this
You’re clearly TRYING to make the gun fail with low brass weak loads……..never trust a hippie.
I got mine for $350.
@@RetroGameDungeon from the Loch Ness Monster?
Benelli m4 un jour benelli m4 toujours.
Lol...apparently it has a break in...and break apart period. This isnt the only you tuber that has publicly broken the CHEAP ASS Panzer ajustable stock ! This has got to be a total embarrassment for PANZER. We all know you get what you pay for. Im getting ready to spend my money on a combat shotgun and as a former Marine l wanted a Benelli but wanted to avoid a 2500 dollar hit so.....idk. maybe sleeping better at night is gonna cost me 2500. ??
@@WilliamSquires-fc4kp I mean…it doesn’t have a problem going bang🤷♂️ lol
Hahahahahaha
“My panzer is just as good as a overpriced benelli m4”😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂👌🏻