Wow, a excellent no frills video and brings back memories from the 80s rolling my own baits, 7oz semolina 5oz ff soya flour and 2oz baby milk as the base mix,, then added emp bird food or a fishmeal consisting of sardine and anchovy, caplin and white fishmeal then a few mils of Hutchison scopex or monster crab...had fantastic results, Thanks for sharing mate.
That recipe of yours would still go down well today, if it's a good bait it's a good bait regardless of whether it fits a trend or not. I think baby milk must've been included in a hell of a lot of bait over the years. Thanks for the feedback pal. Tight lines Steve
Nice video Steve I've just knocked up a bait with 14 ingredients including fenugreek and calanus liquid and blanked for 16 sessions my mate strolls up with a simple mix and caught loads.... Less is more
Hi Tim. I completely get where you're coming from, I've messed around with so many complex recipes and variations over the years and almost tied myself up in knots seemingly looking for the holy grail of baits. The funny thing is I always end up with something very similar to this with just a few minor additions like glm, minamino and liver powder but not sure these do much other than give myself a little bit of false hope ;-) thanks for commenting Steve
Very informative video ive been making my own for years now and agree in having dedicated untensils for the process i bought ex restaurant equipment when it closed . I switched over to steaming mine 10 years ago .
Hi pal. Steaming is definitely a step up from boiling, I'd like to do that myself but just don't have the space or budget at the moment. Thanks pal. Tight lines Steve
@@BivvyLife I only make bait for myself .so I bought 2 electric food steamers from Aldi £30 each last year as the older ones gave up after years of service and taken up less space . After I add powdered base mix after rolling and steaming for added attraction .
@@BivvyLife it's down to the availability and costs including shipping from outside UK on certain quality ingredients . Nothink I use apart from eggs is produced in UK anymore and the cost of insect meal is a joke now
I feel your pain, some of the price increases are probably genuinely because of market pressure from energy prices etc but also a lot of profiteering going on.
Awesome video very impressive I am new to bait making and this video you have made on bait making is just what I have been looking for the information on the recipes and processing of the bait it is so interesting please would you making lots more video on recipes and bait processing like this video I would be very grateful this bait making Knowledge is fantastic to watch and help anglers that are new to bait making like me. I am very interested in making a bait for the summer with ingredients like fish meal base with krill / squid and I am very interested in making a bait with the new bug meal that is available now I would be very grateful if you made videos to help me please.
Hi Paul. Thanks for the feedback, I am planning on making more bait videos when time allows although it could be some time away yet as it's that time of year where I'm out on the bank as much as possible. Tight lines pal 👍🏻
Hi George. Yes you can there's no wrong and right as long as you've got enough binders to hold it together for rolling purposes the only limit is your imagination. Tight lines Steve
Being a match angler I don’t use boilies as such. But I was wondering whether the use of Tiger Nut oil as a base ingredient for a paste bait might be advantageous.
Hi John There's only one way to find out pal, I know Carp seem to love tigernut so the oil has definitely gotta be worth a go. Might be worth trying really low doses and increasing it over time. Tight lines pal Steve
Hi pal Im fishing amassive lake in turkey it doesnt get fished for carp Ive been using maize but am giong to have a go with the boilies only problem is i cant get tigers here in turkey what would you recommend as a substitute Cheers
Bread I eat (normal supermarket bread) have 1.1g of salt in 100g of bread. I've never heard of or eaten bread which has as much salt as in potato chips (33g per 100g).
I'm always careful when quoting stats on any of my videos/demos. It seems that ratios of salt in bread are still very similar to when I did basic food science in the early 90's. The below is an exert taken from the Guardian. There are plenty of other reports and analysis out there, it's easy to find. Three out of four loaves of sliced bread sold in UK supermarkets contain as much salt in one slice as a bag of ready salted crisps, according to new research. The findings prompted calls for a clampdown on the large amounts of salt found in one of Britain’s staple foods, because eating too much of it raises the risk of a heart attack or stroke. Action on Salt, a food research and campaign group, said that five types of sliced bread are so salty that they contain at least 0.9g per serving of two slices, which is more of the substance than that found in two small bags of McDonald’s French fries, each of which has 0.44g. There is also as much salt in two slices of Hovis soft white extra thick bread - 1.2g - as a McDonald’s hamburger. Graham MacGregor, a professor of cardiovascular medicine who chairs Action on Salt, demanded urgent government action to tackle the “disgrace” of excessive salt levels. It analysed the make-up of 242 sliced breads made by 28 different companies and sold in 10 of the country’s largest supermarkets. In 75% of them, just one slice contained at least as much salt as the 0.34g found in a 25g bag of Walkers ready salted crisps. Government guidelines advise that bread should contain at most 1.01g per 100g. However, Action on Salt found that the Hovis granary loaf has 1.28g per 100g and the same manufacturer’s seeded bread had 1.24g per 100g, while Marks and Spencer’s Thick White Super Soft Loaf had an unusually high salt content among white breads studied - 1.03g per 100g. M&S also produce a wholemeal loaf with a lot of salt - its M&S The Bakery Soft Golden Wholemeal Farmhouse Loaf contains 1.03g per 100g. Reducing salt is the most cost-effective measure to lower blood pressure and reduce the number of people dying and suffering from strokes and heart disease”, said MacGregor, a professor at Queen Mary University of London and campaigner for healthier food. “It’s therefore a disgrace that food companies continue to fill our food with so much unnecessary salt, as shown here in bread.” Action on Salt’s findings suggest that bread generally still contains more salt than when they examined a wide range of products in 2011.
@@BivvyLife Our sliced white bread here in Finland contains 0.7-1.1g salt per 100g. You got some salty bread there in UK. I wonder does your salty bread catch more fish than our bread! :)
You can write down the list of the ingredients you put in it, sir. (I don't have a Turkish translation on my phone) What should I do to prevent mold? Thank you.
I use wholesale mushroom trays that you'll see in the thumb nail. Most fruit and veg shops throw them away. The tiger nut meal I use is fairly course, similar to micro pellets. Tight lines Steve
Hi mate. If you like a tougher skin you can use anything between 30-50g per kg, this will all depend on how tough you want it and also depends on your other ingredients. Ie: Your liquid content. Tight lines Steve
Just so as can get them out further woth the throwing stick without them splitting Ben making my own bait for a fews years now and as I rule I prefer a nice soft bait but will be pinging them out on a 33 acre pit so want some a Bit firmer
Hi Ben. It's called a boilie rolling table, They're available at most tackle outlets including angling direct and total fishing tackle. The one in the video is a Gardner rollaball rolling table. Steve
Hi Mark. I haven't priced it up recently but the last time I looked at the pricing of bait I was saving approx £6 per kilo. That was comparing like for like which at the time was mainline cell. Now I don't tend to add flavours so it's difficult to compare a well known bait with mine. In a nutshell yes you can definitely save money making it yourself depending where you source the ingredients and which types of ingredients you're using. Tight lines pal Steve
Hi Steve, they were made to obviously add a flavour too, I fished em without an my brother with a flavour ( a nutrabaits one if memory serves) no real noticeable difference in our catch rates,did lead me to feel the flavour was as much for the anglers as the carp! Undoubtedly there are favs throughout the decades, look a the choice of baits compared to the 80’s.To think now you will be in the minority on your lake fishing with a simple mix boilie, and you made em, an excellent edge Steve 🎣
@Matti Parker I guess I should try to do a comparison although with the anomalies involved in fishing it could be nigh on impossible to measure it scientifically. Might be able to get a good idea of what's going on though. Cheers pal. Steve
Well worth giving it a go, Steve,ropes your mates in 😊 be a top vid after a seasons of comparisons ….always fished with my brother so if he’s on pop ups I’ll be on the bottom baits,still today, always found it easier to work out what the lake wants 🎣 cheers mate
That could just be a goer that pal, when I've got some real time to dedicate to it I'll get on it. Again, thanks for the feedback and ideas. Tight lines Steve
There is nothig more rewarding than formulating your own baits, sourcing your own ingredients, additives, flavours, enzymes, and special top secret inclusions into your own baits. Then watching the fish,tear up the lake bed hunting for your bait. Then other anglers watching how your bait is provking such a feeding response from the carp, they ask to buy your baits. I made long term baits with fish nutrition at the core of the formula. Cost didn't matter to me the fish welfare and growth potential from eating my baits was the top priority. The better the quality the better long-term growth and health of the carp for future generations to enjoy catching huge healthy stocks of massive carp. Bait is something not to scrimp on. I have fished baits in different angling situations and the better the quality the better the results long term and often first time being introduced over inferior quality baits. Depends on the venue and angling situation. I am glad there are still lads making their own, it is epic when it all comes together on your own baits.
Love it pal. You've taken the time out to put into words the magic and dedication of the DIY bait fraternity. Not only is it a way of striving to finding an edge but can also save some cash along the way. Unfortunately my bulk rolling days are now behind me due to other commitments, although I'll not be selling my gear as I'll still be making my own, albeit on a lesser scale. Thanks for taking the time out to give us an insight of your perspective, I'm sure most will agree. Tight lines Steve
tigernut flour has 25+% fat and u put 400g into 1300g of dry mix wich is 30%. so only from that 1 ingridient ur bait already has 8-9% fat so in total the bait will have 20+%fat, that is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much. That is just making ur baits hard to digest and making carps get satiated faster. Also that bait is only and ONLY usable in summer when the water is very warm, if u used that when the water is cold the fish would need days to digest that. By going over 12%fat ur just making u baits worse, same with going over 30% proteins.
Hi Marko Thanks for taking the time out to Contribute, This is just a very basic recipe to demonstrate how easy it is to make up a flavourless bait that can catch fish, it isn't a perfectly balanced soluble bait and is high in fat content but it does work. I should've mentioned in the demo that this isn't suitable for colder weather or certainly lower water temperatures. I'm sure the word will soon get out through this comment section. Thanks again. Tight lines Steve.
Wow, a excellent no frills video and brings back memories from the 80s rolling my own baits, 7oz semolina 5oz ff soya flour and 2oz baby milk as the base mix,, then added emp bird food or a fishmeal consisting of sardine and anchovy, caplin and white fishmeal then a few mils of Hutchison scopex or monster crab...had fantastic results, Thanks for sharing mate.
That recipe of yours would still go down well today, if it's a good bait it's a good bait regardless of whether it fits a trend or not. I think baby milk must've been included in a hell of a lot of bait over the years.
Thanks for the feedback pal.
Tight lines
Steve
Nice video Steve I've just knocked up a bait with 14 ingredients including fenugreek and calanus liquid and blanked for 16 sessions my mate strolls up with a simple mix and caught loads.... Less is more
Hi Tim.
I completely get where you're coming from, I've messed around with so many complex recipes and variations over the years and almost tied myself up in knots seemingly looking for the holy grail of baits.
The funny thing is I always end up with something very similar to this with just a few minor additions like glm, minamino and liver powder but not sure these do much other than give myself a little bit of false hope ;-)
thanks for commenting
Steve
Great video think im going to have a go myself at making some boilies,
Hi Mark
Thanks for the feedback.
Tight lines 👍🏻
Excellent pal i enjoyed that those boilies turned out perfect and i agree a great colour cheers and tightlines
Cheers pal 👍🏻
Very informative video ive been making my own for years now and agree in having dedicated untensils for the process i bought ex restaurant equipment when it closed . I switched over to steaming mine 10 years ago .
Hi pal.
Steaming is definitely a step up from boiling, I'd like to do that myself but just don't have the space or budget at the moment.
Thanks pal.
Tight lines
Steve
@@BivvyLife I only make bait for myself .so I bought 2 electric food steamers from Aldi £30 each last year as the older ones gave up after years of service and taken up less space . After I add powdered base mix after rolling and steaming for added attraction .
Sounds like the way to go pal.
One things for sure there's definitely money to be saved by making your own bait.
@@BivvyLife it's down to the availability and costs including shipping from outside UK on certain quality ingredients . Nothink I use apart from eggs is produced in UK anymore and the cost of insect meal is a joke now
I feel your pain, some of the price increases are probably genuinely because of market pressure from energy prices etc but also a lot of profiteering going on.
Used to roll a kilo by hand back in day!! Took forever.
Same here pal, what a ball ache, soon got bored of that malarkey
Same, glad I stopped smoking
@@adamkyle5737 🤣🤣🤣
After a while of hand rolling my boilies gradually got bigger and bigger, until i'd say fuck it i'll use the rest as paste lol.
Brilliant video, definitely gets you thinking!!!
Thanks pal, tight lines
Steve 👍🏻
Aup si
Spot on nice and simple 👌
Cheers pal, simple can often be just the job
Awesome video very impressive I am new to bait making and this video you have made on bait making is just what I have been looking for the information on the recipes and processing of the bait it is so interesting please would you making lots more video on recipes and bait processing like this video I would be very grateful this bait making Knowledge is fantastic to watch and help anglers that are new to bait making like me.
I am very interested in making a bait for the summer with ingredients like fish meal base with krill / squid and I am very interested in making a bait with the new bug meal that is available now I would be very grateful if you made videos to help me please.
Hi Paul.
Thanks for the feedback, I am planning on making more bait videos when time allows although it could be some time away yet as it's that time of year where I'm out on the bank as much as possible.
Tight lines pal 👍🏻
Hi mate. Cheers for the video. I cant find where the ingredients and measurements are in the description? Cheers
Hi pal.
Click more... underneath the video description. Where it says #upbeats
Just getting into bait making so thanks for the tips, great vid!
Where do you buy your dry ingredients from?
I get them from Quality baits or CC Moore. Great service from both.
Thanks for the feedback pal 👍🏻
Superstar thanks matey!
ua-cam.com/video/EulHj3l-p44/v-deo.html this is also a great video if your starting off mate
@BillySulluvan This is brilliant, this guy knows what he's talking about.
Hi Steve, great video thoroughly enjoyed. could you swap out the tigernut meal for LT-94 fish meal?
Hi George.
Yes you can there's no wrong and right as long as you've got enough binders to hold it together for rolling purposes the only limit is your imagination.
Tight lines
Steve
Being a match angler I don’t use boilies as such. But I was wondering whether the use of Tiger Nut oil as a base ingredient for a paste bait might be advantageous.
Hi John
There's only one way to find out pal, I know Carp seem to love tigernut so the oil has definitely gotta be worth a go. Might be worth trying really low doses and increasing it over time.
Tight lines pal
Steve
Hello! Can you tell me where do I can buy this ingredients? I want to try to do this boilie! Thank you in advance!
Hi mate.
you can get all the ingredients from here:
qualitybaits.co.uk/
Hi pal
Im fishing amassive lake in turkey it doesnt get fished for carp
Ive been using maize but am giong to have a go with the boilies only problem is i cant get tigers here in turkey what would you recommend as a substitute
Cheers
Hi pal.
If you're intent on sticking with nuts I'd guess that peanut meal could be available over there but it's only a hunch.
Tight lines
Steve
Bread I eat (normal supermarket bread) have 1.1g of salt in 100g of bread. I've never heard of or eaten bread which has as much salt as in potato chips (33g per 100g).
I'm always careful when quoting stats on any of my videos/demos. It seems that ratios of salt in bread are still very similar to when I did basic food science in the early 90's.
The below is an exert taken from the Guardian. There are plenty of other reports and analysis out there, it's easy to find.
Three out of four loaves of sliced bread sold in UK supermarkets contain as much salt in one slice as a bag of ready salted crisps, according to new research.
The findings prompted calls for a clampdown on the large amounts of salt found in one of Britain’s staple foods, because eating too much of it raises the risk of a heart attack or stroke.
Action on Salt, a food research and campaign group, said that five types of sliced bread are so salty that they contain at least 0.9g per serving of two slices, which is more of the substance than that found in two small bags of McDonald’s French fries, each of which has 0.44g.
There is also as much salt in two slices of Hovis soft white extra thick bread - 1.2g - as a McDonald’s hamburger.
Graham MacGregor, a professor of cardiovascular medicine who chairs Action on Salt, demanded urgent government action to tackle the “disgrace” of excessive salt levels.
It analysed the make-up of 242 sliced breads made by 28 different companies and sold in 10 of the country’s largest supermarkets. In 75% of them, just one slice contained at least as much salt as the 0.34g found in a 25g bag of Walkers ready salted crisps.
Government guidelines advise that bread should contain at most 1.01g per 100g. However, Action on Salt found that the Hovis granary loaf has 1.28g per 100g and the same manufacturer’s seeded bread had 1.24g per 100g, while Marks and Spencer’s Thick White Super Soft Loaf had an unusually high salt content among white breads studied - 1.03g per 100g.
M&S also produce a wholemeal loaf with a lot of salt - its M&S The Bakery Soft Golden Wholemeal Farmhouse Loaf contains 1.03g per 100g.
Reducing salt is the most cost-effective measure to lower blood pressure and reduce the number of people dying and suffering from strokes and heart disease”, said MacGregor, a professor at Queen Mary University of London and campaigner for healthier food.
“It’s therefore a disgrace that food companies continue to fill our food with so much unnecessary salt, as shown here in bread.”
Action on Salt’s findings suggest that bread generally still contains more salt than when they examined a wide range of products in 2011.
@@BivvyLife Our sliced white bread here in Finland contains 0.7-1.1g salt per 100g. You got some salty bread there in UK. I wonder does your salty bread catch more fish than our bread! :)
No man it's 0.33 grams or salt it chrisps 33g per 100g is one third salt that would be impossible
@@ROBERTSMITH-io7tb You got good eyes. .33g.
Bana evde yapabilecehım bı tarıf verebilirmisınız tesekkürler 🙏
You can write down the list of the ingredients you put in it, sir. (I don't have a Turkish translation on my phone) What should I do to prevent mold? Thank you.
CLO 200g
Squid meal 100g
50/50 300g (150g soya flour 150g semolina)
Fishmeal (LT 94) 50g
Pre digested fishmeal 50g
Salmon oil 50ml
Salt 30g
eggs x 8
@@BivvyLife ♥️👍👋
What do you use for drying racks? Also, how fine is that tigernut meal?
I use wholesale mushroom trays that you'll see in the thumb nail. Most fruit and veg shops throw them away.
The tiger nut meal I use is fairly course, similar to micro pellets.
Tight lines
Steve
I’d buy some if ur selling it know it would tear the water I go to apart 👍
Hi mate.
Probably wouldn't be economical for you with delivery charge. Tight lines 👍🏻
I do the same as you but I put dmpt in it and marmite
Nice 1 pal, no crowd following here 👍🏻
Tight lines
Steve
Where would you buy some of the mixes like the peanut powder, and the tiger nut powder,
Hi Mark.
Quality baits or CC Moore.
Steve
Looking at starting making my own baits any suggestions on where to buy bulk ingredients?
Hi pal.
Try quality baits near Birmingham.
qualitybaits.co.uk/collections
Cant beat your own pimped hookbaits... thats enough effort for me!!
Where can I buy the ingredients from in big bags
Quality baits or ccmoore
How much egg albumen would you add per kilo to get a toucher skin on say 25 g per kilo ?
Hi mate.
If you like a tougher skin you can use anything between 30-50g per kg, this will all depend on how tough you want it and also depends on your other ingredients. Ie: Your liquid content.
Tight lines
Steve
Just so as can get them out further woth the throwing stick without them splitting Ben making my own bait for a fews years now and as I rule I prefer a nice soft bait but will be pinging them out on a 33 acre pit so want some a Bit firmer
You might want to try 50-50 whey gel and albumen this will make them harder right through the boilie. Try 30g whey 30g albumen.
@Bivvy Life cheers mate
Where do you get the thing that makes it into balls? What's it called?
Hi Ben.
It's called a boilie rolling table, They're available at most tackle outlets including angling direct and total fishing tackle.
The one in the video is a Gardner rollaball rolling table.
Steve
@@BivvyLife Perfect, thanks - and whats the extruder thing called? Is that needed?
That's a boilie gun run on a compressor, a manual boilie/ sausage gun will do the job, they're available at most of the larger tackle outlets.
Steve
What is CLO ??
ua-cam.com/video/UXi04_Feryk/v-deo.html
Do you save much money making your own
Hi Mark.
I haven't priced it up recently but the last time I looked at the pricing of bait I was saving approx £6 per kilo. That was comparing like for like which at the time was mainline cell.
Now I don't tend to add flavours so it's difficult to compare a well known bait with mine.
In a nutshell yes you can definitely save money making it yourself depending where you source the ingredients and which types of ingredients you're using.
Tight lines pal
Steve
Top info an vid…takes me back..anyone old enough to remember the Kevin Maddocks neutral boilies??? 🎣
Hi Matti.
Thanks for the feedback, I don't remember the Kevin Maddocks neutrals, did you use them to good effect?
Steve
Hi Steve, they were made to obviously add a flavour too, I fished em without an my brother with a flavour ( a nutrabaits one if memory serves) no real noticeable difference in our catch rates,did lead me to feel the flavour was as much for the anglers as the carp! Undoubtedly there are favs throughout the decades, look a the choice of baits compared to the 80’s.To think now you will be in the minority on your lake fishing with a simple mix boilie, and you made em, an excellent edge Steve 🎣
@Matti Parker I guess I should try to do a comparison although with the anomalies involved in fishing it could be nigh on impossible to measure it scientifically. Might be able to get a good idea of what's going on though.
Cheers pal.
Steve
Well worth giving it a go, Steve,ropes your mates in 😊 be a top vid after a seasons of comparisons ….always fished with my brother so if he’s on pop ups I’ll be on the bottom baits,still today, always found it easier to work out what the lake wants 🎣 cheers mate
That could just be a goer that pal, when I've got some real time to dedicate to it I'll get on it.
Again, thanks for the feedback and ideas.
Tight lines
Steve
What is 50 - 50 ?
50% soya flour 50% semolina
There is nothig more rewarding than formulating your own baits, sourcing your own ingredients, additives, flavours, enzymes, and special top secret inclusions into your own baits. Then watching the fish,tear up the lake bed hunting for your bait. Then other anglers watching how your bait is provking such a feeding response from the carp, they ask to buy your baits. I made long term baits with fish nutrition at the core of the formula. Cost didn't matter to me the fish welfare and growth potential from eating my baits was the top priority.
The better the quality the better long-term growth and health of the carp for future generations to enjoy catching huge healthy stocks of massive carp.
Bait is something not to scrimp on. I have fished baits in different angling situations and the better the quality the better the results long term and often first time being introduced over inferior quality baits. Depends on the venue and angling situation.
I am glad there are still lads making their own, it is epic when it all comes together on your own baits.
Love it pal.
You've taken the time out to put into words the magic and dedication of the DIY bait fraternity. Not only is it a way of striving to finding an edge but can also save some cash along the way. Unfortunately my bulk rolling days are now behind me due to other commitments, although I'll not be selling my gear as I'll still be making my own, albeit on a lesser scale.
Thanks for taking the time out to give us an insight of your perspective, I'm sure most will agree.
Tight lines
Steve
Carp cannot detect oils.
A flavour is just a label
Couldn't agree more Phil 👍🏻
@Bivvy Life Ihave you ever heard of dmpt for bait mate
Hi Aaron.
Sorry about the delayed reply I didn't get a notification.
I have heard of it but not tried it. Have you experience with it?
tigernut flour has 25+% fat and u put 400g into 1300g of dry mix wich is 30%. so only from that 1 ingridient ur bait already has 8-9% fat so in total the bait will have 20+%fat, that is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much. That is just making ur baits hard to digest and making carps get satiated faster. Also that bait is only and ONLY usable in summer when the water is very warm, if u used that when the water is cold the fish would need days to digest that. By going over 12%fat ur just making u baits worse, same with going over 30% proteins.
Hi Marko
Thanks for taking the time out to
Contribute, This is just a very basic recipe to demonstrate how easy it is to make up a flavourless bait that can catch fish, it isn't a perfectly balanced soluble bait and is high in fat content but it does work.
I should've mentioned in the demo that this isn't suitable for colder weather or certainly lower water temperatures. I'm sure the word will soon get out through this comment section. Thanks again.
Tight lines
Steve.