Who Were The Longhunters?
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
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This is what the History and Discovery Channels used to be like.
Ancient Aliens 2: American Revolution
Only BETTER. Much, much better.
@@tonyantonio2 Lolz Sad but true!
Yeah, they lost my views. Ignorant garbage.
I was looking for a documentary that was on History Channel the other day. The quality really went down hill when they realized that reality television grabbed more viewers than The American Revolution. Hell, I remember when TLC meant Television Learning Channel and not Totally Ludicrous Content.
that guy needs a UA-cam channel showing him making his things and other stuff he has to talk about
I consider him a friend. I've camped with him and he's a great guy. Fascinating amount of knowledge he's willing to pass on
It is great that such people exist that are willing to share their ways of life. 👍👍👍👍👍👍
@@dillonhinkle8765 I've always been drawn to this type of life , it comes more natural to me wish I could spend time with this fellow and learn what he can share !!
It's hard to imagine how much tougher, resilient and skilled people were back then. In particular frontiersman and long hunters.
they'll say the same of us in 200 yrs., should we make it before the third dark ages hit.
@@slukky I hope we will but I doubt it. Too pampered, too soft.
Same people as today. We just have more ppl now.
My dad was born in the late 1920’s, his dad mid 1890’s, the work expected from my dad and his generation from the time of boy into an adult was 90% by the power of their body, manual strength and creativity of their mind, technology is great but in some ways it’s weakened us
They were tougher back then simply because they had no other choice.
My 6th great-grandfather, Dietrich "Teter"Nave, was a longhunter /Overmountain Man, & early settler of the Watauga Valley in Eastern Tennessee.
He was a 1st generation American of Swiss-German ancestry & spoke both German & English. He was also a member of Isaac Shelby's command at the Battle of Kings Mountain (1780).
I am proud to be descended from him.
I grew up next to the Kings Mountain battle ground. Fascinating battle and history you should be proud!!
Man that kid next to the fire, made me so happy. It's great to see family passing these vital bits of history (and I would even say survival skills) onto the younger generations. It's one thing to read history, it's another to be a kid growing up around it being recreated. What a phenomenal learning experience.
Camp life brings new meaning to "savor the flavors and the AROMAS of the 18th century."
I loved that point about modern times having so many fewer animals! So interesting to think of one man having 3 horses with him. It's difficult to imagine all the hunting dogs and horses everywhere.
I would occasionally watch your videos because of my general love of history, however I was recently gifted a southern mountain rifle kit, then I got a steal on a 1795 U.S. Springfield musket. Now I cannot get my mind out of the 18th century and early 19th century, so I subscribed to your channel. Good video.
Man, this channel is blowing up! I just noticed how many subs they have. Couldn’t happen to a better channel 👍
chris maggiora has come on
I agree, well deserved!
Fantastic!
Wonderful video! Simeon is a great guest, very interesting stuff.
It's hard to imagine to me how much game those first settlers were blessed with having and how quickly they knocked down those numbers.
VERY WORTH WHILE TO BRING SIMEON'S INTERVIEW BACK TO OUR ATTENTION! Thank you. For me his 'new' insight was using a mentor to get a longer-term perspective on a mindset as acquired from a person who 'lived' the period, wore the clothing, worked with the tools and ate the available food. I also learned that 'long hunters' worked in teams more than as 'trapper partners' in the fur trade.
My Skaggs ancestors in Green County KY were longhunters and were contemporaries of Daniel Boone. My Money line married into the Skaggs line and a cousin by the surname of Money owns about 600 acres in Green County that he has bought back that belonged to the Money and Skaggs families from the mid to late 1700s. He has a log cabin on his property that I have been in and not 300 ft from it is a well used back in the days and times of the longhunters and Daniel Boone. Very interesting and beautiful country there in Green County KY. Really enjoyed the video! I'm subscribing!
I have followed this for a while now and find it fascinating . Henry Skaggs is my 7th great grandfather. I have my family tree traced back to 1560. :) Henry and is brothers were famous long hunters and have appeared in several books on the subject.
@@stanskaggs4040I wote a long rely Stan and it disappeared. LOL. We are probably cousins. I do remember my most recent Skaggs ancestor was James Skaggs who married I believe MaryAnn Moore...they are both buried in or near Sikeston MO. I have been to their graves but can't remember if it was Sikeston for sure....its been about 20 years.
Henry Skaggs is my 5th great grandfather. I’d love to learn more about him.
@@debboyermaevers9555 It has been years since I did any "rooting" but I do remember there was a woman named Juanita Luttrell who wrote a book about the Skaggs brothers and Money family that was very very interesting and filled in a lot of my family info for me. It is out of print now and I don't remember the name of it but the library in Summersville KY had a copy of it and they let me photocopy the pages that pertained to my branch of the Skaggs and Money families. This was back in the early 90s. I don't know if Jaunita is still alive, I doubt it. I talked to her by phone a couple times. She was trying to get the book edited because the published/printed version was very rough but she was hesitant to let the edited manuscript out of her possession. This book, if they still have their copy of it might help you in your search.
@@stanskaggs4040 True! There were so many brothers though, it is easy to get confused...or at least it is for me!
Thanks Brother. I appreciate that you stand for wisdom and learning. Never an agenda. As someone who lives life like this as often as possible, I believe that you are a beacon of light. Stay safe my friend. There are things in the wild that we don't understand, but it doesn't mean we can't with time.
This was a really nice video Jon. Always nice to go out in the field and experience it for yourself. I am so glad you take the time to record these things for us, and also for posterity. Your wealth of knowledge and boundless enthusiasm is very evident in each and every one of your video's and it makes watching them so worth it. This was wonderfully enjoyable. Thank you!
here in New Brunswick Canada I rebuilt a homestead built by a Scottish Highlander who settled here in 1785, and it is said he sought out the native tribes and asked for their permission to hunt on their land
Wow what a great thing you did to bring that back. Do you spend time in the cabin? Live in it?
My grandfathers mothers side bought land from the native population. This was in the 1700s he dug a well and let hunting parties sleep in his barn and use the well..
Sounds really cool
A nice settlers
I’d like to know more about that. Annacreasman@protonmail(dot)com
That looks like a great group of folks. Thanks for sharing!
Love this! My 5xs grandfather Jesse Hughes was a noted scout. Im very lucky to know about his life as a long hunter in WV and in the boarder wars. He hunted instead of farming. Ty for this window into the past!
hiheeledsneakers1 How would you even find this info? Is it written down or something?
Turkey-hunted at my camp (Idaho), with a 1760's musket. Amazed at the accuracy.
Musket or rifle?
I love your videos and to be truthful I didnt think these kinds of videos would interest me but you did it again. Thank you so much for touching on all sides of the 17th,18th,and 19,th centuries.
I have been on UA-cam since it began way back when and this is one of my favorite channels. Thank you. An simpler time
Woohoo! I’ve been watching my notifications for a new video!!! Thank you! Great info!!! 💗
This is the kind of content I come to this channel for
That was a very insightful look into the life and circumstances of a Longhunter. Thank you.
Why are they called 'longhunters'- cause they have long guns?
The American Frontier series is the best series on your channel imo (though they're all pretty great), so much info on being self sufficient, living off the land and the history of Frontiersman.
Great To Know! The History Of The United States Is Fascinating To Me. What Stories That Could Be Told If The Woods Could Talk! It's Amazing What People Were Capable Of Back In The Day! Thank You For The Video It Is Rewarding To Me!
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Great video this guy needs his own channel absolutely loved it he's so knowledgeable...loved the crack in the background in the tent also haha gotta laugh 😊
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My 4x great-grandfather was a longhunter. He and his brother came from Wytheville VA to TN after selling their NC land grants that they got for their service in Revolutionary War. I am a 7th generation Tennessean!
This is so interesting! I have some long hunters in my family line in Illinois. Thank you for this.
I can't wait for the next video. I like to see a gardening video. What they did to prepare the ground and planting 💟
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My ancestorial history reports my great great great great grandfather Crabtree was a long Hunter. Fascinating story and we'll documented. He hunted with one of Boone's son. Came through Virginia eventually settled in Roane County Tennessee. Thank you for this history lesson.
These guys are the real survivalist, they make everything, from guns to knives; axes ; All from scratch; I give them a lot of props!!👍
would love to see walk arounds of these other camps you visit always good to get other peoples work archived so much effort goes into it all
Great video! Love the history and sense of rugged adventure! Simeon England is a great guest!
I just loved the information but one item missed did the long hunters build boats/canoes/dugouts? If so how did they fit into the daily routine?
Raw hide canoes if anything but they probably bartered for that with the natives most of the time
I doubt that they spent much time building small boats, since that would limit their mobility to following the rivers. The rivers were important for transport, but mostly for flatboats carrying cargo and settlers. If they were planning a long trip by water, up into Indian country to trade, of course a canoe would be useful, as it would carry more "plunder" than hauling it overland. That's why horses were typical for longhunters, even though they were often stolen along with the full packs they were carrying. These guys were not out here for fishing. They wanted hides. So the waters were mainly of interest for transport in the long haul, back and forth, at either end of the journey.
A while back, Jon did a series on constructing a dugout canoe. In it, he covers some of the typical uses. Dig back on his channel and view them. It's not an easy task. (On the plus side, there may still be some original dugout canoes out in the water. That would be a fun find.)
@@krb5292 yeah i watched that whole series on dug outs but rivers and streams was important in that time for transportation. I was asking how that related possibly to the long hunters and the importance of it specifically.
If they had regular routes they worked that involved travel by water a lot of times they would have a canoe they would hide for future use. Use it. Hide it. Available for use next time.
I just recently discovered Daniel Boone was my 7th great grandfather on my mothers side. I had always had an interest in history, but now I feel an even more deeper connection to it.
James Carr Wallen was my great 5xs grandfather and was a long hunter with Danial Boone
@@judyhuth5377 I'm descended from Elijah Jr's ( the Longhunter) brother. Our branch ended up in Texas. They just kept moving west. And descendant of Longhunter William Blevins.
Wow! What a way that would be to live! Thank you for sharing your wisdom, I love American history, and your videos are entertaining and educational! Keep up the good work!
I am a 6th Grade US History to 1865 teacher. I am definitely going to use some of your videos in class. Thanks and keep up the great work.
You remind me of a mix between Bob Ross and Alton Brown. That’s a good thing!
Very interesting video and channel in general! I've always been fascinated by the 18th century in American history, and you do an excellent job taking me back then.
If we could still live like that . What a wonderful story.
Fantastic interview. Great to see such enthusiasm.
Do one on Longhunter Henry Skaggs. He was my ancestor. He hunted with Boone. And almost caught the first American serial killers the Harpe Brothers.
That would make a great story, Mountain men hunting Serial killers, an old concept fighting against a problem we face today.
I’d be interested in that as well. Henry Skaggs is my 5th great grandfather.
Charles (Henry’s brother) was my 6th great grandfather
Do one on Elisha Wallen (Walling). He was my ancestor. Also hunted with Boone and I know I’ve heard the Skaggs name too.
@@debboyermaevers9555 we're cousins.
Always enjoy your videos. This was fascinating as a dog hunter myself. That was a beautiful bluetick as well
Beardoggin89 Live Action Yeah, I was loving the dogs. Good lookin’ bunch!
Great episode, love these videos as much as I love the cooking videos.
My 6th GreatGrandfather was Christopher "Kit" Maynard who came across the gap to hunt and ended up settling what is now Brushy(Lower Brushy) in Pike County KY. They lived under a rock cliff until they could get something built.
Hey Townsend! I just finished having lunch, so today I won't go to college with an empty stomach in no small part thanks to your channel! Thanks to the Mac n cheese video in particular, which gave me some ideas for a quick but tasty lunch!
I owe you one, cheers!
good heavens! I just noticed how many subscribers you have gained WOW!
I love this channel so much. I've taken a lot of interest recently in 18th century history, and this is wholesome, and well made content I enjoy very much.
Tyler Hutchens what does
" wholesome " mean ?
I'm glad that the long hunter and land cruiser hasn't died out, I still do it when I get a chance. I hunt, trap,fish and prospect for gold,silver and copper. I also find relics and archeological sites.its fun and relaxing.
Man I love y’alls channel. Awesome attention to fact.
I've always needed this channel in my life, even if I didn't know it at the time.
So true--Grime, grease, grunge, grit! I'm sure if we traveled back in time to one of these camps we'd fall over backwards just from the smell! Would probably do the same thing even in an 18th Century tavern... This guys looks like the real deal! Great video. Thanks again!
The average man these days would smell like a wee flower in comparison
Thank you for the video!
simeon will always be one of my greatest living history inspirations
Very cool! You are keeping history fun!!!
Thanks for sharing the information
love these type of videos
When I read "Longhunter" I immediately thought of that dude you fight in Turok: Dinosaur Hunter.
That is awesome keep it up lots of good info cant wait till the next video
I LOVE HISTORY!! Thanks for your info.
Very good info on this vid. I’m wondering if you’ve thought to contact local horse clubs and hunt clubs to see if anyone would be interested in joining in your reenactment. It would be nice to get a whole community together. I know it takes plenty of organization.
Love the show. We've seen a lot of settler living history, let's see more Native American persepctives!
Modern Woodsman - a "city civilized" colonist would have stayed in Virginia. The pioneers were usually a fairly rough bunch, used to hard work under difficult conditions, risking their lives to build a free nation. The men and women who settled near a station may have been farmers, but they were still pioneers and indian fighters, and they were carving a home out of the wilderness. No "softies" stayed for long. You arrived "green" and seasoned quick, or you didn't make it.
Modern Woodsman -- Apparently I did not understand what you were trying to say ( I respond nicely and politely). I really thought you meant to have a round table discussion with the people who were actually on the frontier and who could be expected to have a valid opinion about what life was like there.
Not to include some fancy pants from the big city who was afraid to get his hands dirty ( both literally and figuratively). My bad. I thought the question was merely misguided, not stupid. ... said Captain Obvious.
Have a nice day.
@Modern Woodsman ah yes. Let's force a wildly oppressed group of people to sit down and calmly speak with their genocidal fascistic oppressors. So educational. So interesting.
@Modern Woodsman yea no the concept is still the same as the one I originally had a problem with. It puts the settler's objectively immoral point of view on the same platform as a brutalized and immiserated native. They should not be presented as equals in a sort of "debate" of perspectives. If the Native Americans were there without the colonists, I'd be cool with it.
Modern Woodsman - Clearly, if your proposal needed so much disambiguation in order to make sense to everyone else, it must have been either poorly expressed, or totally stupid to begin with.
No need to insult the intelligence of the entire community - some of whom have advanced degrees in history and related topics - when you should abashedly hang your head in contrition and retract the suggestion, politely and silently.
Failure to avoid further antagonizing your peers will be viewed as the act of a true moron.
I’ve been involved in living history since the 1970s. Seen a lot of stuff on mountain men tack. I haven’t owned a horse since the 1980s and never went looking for eighteenth century , but just random reading and looking at outfits I’ve nerdy seen anything about tack for the linghunters
Great video!
Pity that Simeon does not have a webpage as I would like to see the products he makes. This was a very interesting discussion.
He's a friend of mine. He posts lots of his stuff on his Facebook page
Were the longhunters ever referred to as "rangers"? I ask because much of the description of longhunters matches that of my ancestor, Alexander Walker, who was operating in Kentucky during Boone's time. But the family archives refer to him as a "ranger", which makes me wonder if it was the same profession or just similar. They say he often moved around alone and kept an eye on the native populations to help protect settlers. Longhunters sound like they did more hide work than what we know of Walker, though we do know he liked to hunt. He referred to raccoon as "the sweetest meat" he enjoyed.
"Ranger" can mean someone specifically tasked with roaming, or ranging, an area for the purpose of security. It's where the Texas Rangers got their name, as their function was frontier patrolling.
The scout-spy-ranger historically were on the watch for Indian activity and war parties. These are different from longhunters. Hope this helps
@@simeonengland8719 It does. Thank you!
Its a great clip thanks :) sooo Nice, keep up to good work
Very interesting. I have been watching a lot of Dave Canterbury's video's talking about modern day long hunters. This really clarifies things.
Every time i watch this show i learn good stuff
John looks like an upper-middle class man that got lost in the wilds but found a group of hunters who let him stay for a few days.
... I think I have a plot for a historical fiction novel.
Marshall L. Monti - So true !! He is much too clean to be hanging out with these guys. LOL
Write it I’ll buy a copy
One of my ancestors was a long hunter. He was smart and married an Iroquois woman. It gave him in today’s terms “street cred”. Never used horses mules only.
Most longhunters used pack horses.
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Great video Jon ! What I noticed was the focus o deer, when there were likely woodland bison, and elk along with a lot of smaller game . I also suspect trapping was an equally important harvest tool as a firearm - if only because powder had to be packed in and cared for and created noise - whereas traps didn't and could take even fairly large animals. I also noticed unmentioned is all the " Long Hunters" gear as well as quantities of salt, gun powder, lead, knives and pots and camp tools had to packed in . I'm sure every part of every animal acquired was used in one form or another; brains for tanning, sinew for thread, hooves for glue, bone for tools ad infinitum. Those were tough ( at least the survivors ) men living and dying on their woodcraft ! IOW, Eastern
"Mountain Men " !
Love to see your work!
The term "Long Hunter" makes me think of Hawkeye from "The Last of the Mohicans"
And his tent mate Trapper...
What happens on the Frontier stays on the Frontier...
Exactly
Wonderful video Thanks
Germans brought over the Jaeger rifle thst many borrowed from,but many other interesting ones, double rifle muzzle loader, 3 barrel rifles also used, especially by injun fighters liked more barrels available at short notice, or dangerous game hunters.
THREE barrel????? Never heard of that before. Do tell!
@@rosemcguinn5301 I found a old book The history of the Gun by Harold L Peterson, in which is picture of a 3 barrel percussion gun owned by indian fighter Bill Hamilton. 1 barrel on top, 2 under side by side. Reminds me of the Blaser D99 Drilling of today barrel bunt. But it was also a number of double barrel rifles, some 4 barrels . Most used was the 2 barrel combination or 3 barrel, Drilling 2 shotgun one rifle .
@@MrPh30 If only it hadn't been used so unfairly. But we cannot rewrite history. Thanks for adding to my knowledge.
They used their rifles and other weapons fpr all sorts of manner from foraging to fighting. And if one had more barrels , 2 guys with one each 6 shots plus pistols. Could take enemy with surprise either offensive or defense. A weapon then was the same as now a tool for many uses. Think it was a Austrian rifle that one rifled barrwl,one smooth barrel as musket ,quicker to load. But they were Jaeger issued only.
Have met Simeon, knows his history, great guy
Thanks for the video. My 5x times great grandparents were James Poteet and Elizabeth Crabtree. Brotherinlaw and sister of Longhunter William Crabtree. Thomas Poteet they,re son lived at Pennington Gap and crossed into Kentucky to hunt with his cousins Isaak,Job, and James Crabtree. Isaak was with James Boone when the Shawnee killed him.
I have an ancestor Lydia Crabtree from that time period and area. Not sure if she was related to the Crabtree's you mentioned but I suspect?
@@dustyschwartz1576 Most likely. James Poteet and his father in law William Crabtree II moved to Bedford Co. Va. about 1750 1/4th mile east of Booker T Washington St. Park Burnt Chimney Va. The sons moved to Saltville and Pennington Gap later. William I moved next to the Poteets about 1700 where Stout Bottle Creek meets Deer Creek in Maryland. William I is buried at the St. Johns Episcopal Church Kingsville Maryland.
Omg my ancestors were KY longhunters. Thank you for this video.
I would like to see a video of how they Tanned the buckskin New to this channel really enjoying it
A few different methods were used. Some used oak wood chips for the tannin in the wood. Some used the brain tan method. Others used urine to tan hides into leather. Did they want to leave the hair on, or make buckskin? Enough for a series of videos really.
LOVE thy Content Sir!
i love the content you put out as a history buff i have learned so much from your vids.
I would love to spend my vacation time in a camp like this.
Where ya from? I'm sure you can find a group of like minded folk.
@@laurielaws5482 Corona CA
I live on the Kentucky side of the Cumberland gap. It very beautiful country, Id love to step back in time and see what bell county looked like back then.
Come visit historic Martin's Ststion in the wilderness road park, 8 miles east of the gap. May 11, huge event
@@simeonengland8719 Where is it at? Harrogate tn?
Ewing, VA
Excellent vid. Very informative.
Loved this.
Awesome again!!!! I believe we will put up a Syers Station sign .
Needed an old fat man skinner/cook thar to add to the group lol see Ringo got his facetime too !!!
I'm in western kentucky I particularly love this episode👍
I have always believed that Stonehenge was a Winter rendezvous site for hunter-gatherer tribes.
Fascinating.
You always put out the best videos. thanks Jon. ( Oh, Did you get to do any hunting? )
I like the hire-purchase scheme on the gun. Nothing is new is it!
Love these history lessons!
I just discovered this channel and its great!