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Thank you for explaining it so thoroughly! I was pretty confused trying to read my way through forums of people (who didn't actually seem to understand the system) trying to explain how it works. This video really summed it up well for me!
Just picked up the new strike eagle 5-25 here in Canada. Love it. Thanks for bringing an excellent product to the market for a reasonable price.
Thanks for being a part of Vortex Nation! Let us know if you have any other questions and happy shooting!
Love my vortex.. Just got my new strike eagle 5 25 56 34mm scope and barely got it on for a fundraiser that was yesterday (Saturday)... I shot it on my 22lr and hit the liberty bell (steel plate) at 1776 feet (592 yards)... Awesome scope vortex... Keep up the great work!!
How many MOA did the bullet drop at that distance?
I had to pull my zero stop out. I have a 30moa base and I'm shooting out past 2 miles , repeated hits at 3000yds and a few at 2 miles , the zero stop is GREAT if your in a PRS setting gling from say 100 - 1760 or anywhere in between , having a dope card and returning to zero then dialing works great , but anything past 2000 the rev stop just gets in the way .... LOVE THE SCOPE , for the price the glass is excellent
3000 yards? Yikes! What are you shooting? I’m wondering how far my ruger precision rifle 338 LM w/golden eagle will shoot
@@APlife764 300PRC dosnt hit as hard as a 338Lapua , but with the right pill its Ballasticly superior . This cartridge has taught me how to shoot better..
And I used to think 1000 with my 6.5 was cool
@@jjames5928 believe me….although I’m enjoying my 338, even reloading is costly(but better) there are times when I wish that I had picked up the 300. I know it’s an amazing cartridge.
@@APlife764 hell even reloading the 300 sucks , its hard to find brass
The 1st 500 rounds i got were all factory load Hornady eld-x , im on my 4th relaod with them now , and have 2000 rds of virgin brass I was able to aquire over the past year.
I'm loading Mostly 250gr Hornady A-Tip and some 230 Hornady ELD-X .. I was able to find a shit load of powder before the pandemic hit and im down to my last 20lbs now so im gonna have to slow down a bit and practice refining my technique at 500-1000 instead of lobbing them at 2500+ . I definitely don't have the skills required to compete in KO2M but thats my end goal is to be good enough and have the money to build a 416 Barrett or 375 Cheytac
😉🇺🇸👍 I'm doing 300WSM in a 26" barrel, doing similar with 30MOA mount, out over a mile without a problem.... lol
Love it!
I just toss a 20MOA base mount in and leave it where I can dial it all.
While at first I liked the idea of a stop, the moment I ran into a hard stop and had to adjust in glass, I removed the stop...👍🇺🇸.. Awesome glass.
Excellent vid. I just got the Venom with Rev Stop. It's like my Diamondbacks, with zero stop and speed throw lever.
As for people worrying about the zero stop limiting travel, that is part of the point, Looking to return to the zero place. And most times, you are not going to dial below the zero point, though you can with the Rev Stop giving a full MOA under the zero for when you shoot less than the zero distance. You are not going to use the elevations below zero.
And definitely us a long range booster rail, depending. But you also have other options. In MOA, you dial another 47 MOA. And then you about another 40 ish MOA hold overs in the reticle. To me, the Venom and the Strike Eagle, and even the Diamondback Tactical are one mile scopes.
Clear as mud. I’m happy with my Gen 1 Viper PST 6-24x50 with an EBR-1 MOA reticle. I also use a 20 MOA rail.
I’d like to see a video about setting the scope so it stops at zero without going 5 mil past.
Also a video about setting the zero stop a second or third time once it has already been installed. Messed my zero up a few times trying this. I think my mistake was when I took of the turret to zero it i just spun the zero stop clockwise until it stops but you need to lift it out and drop it straight in so as to not mess anything up.
love the scope
Installing the Zero stop on mine limits the up elevation travel to a little over 11 mils. Just under two full revolutions. So if you have a 20-30 MOA base, the zero stop makes it useless. It’s amazing to me some one thought this was a good idea.
Sounds like you have the Razor HD LHT then. A few things to note here... First - That’s a hybrid hunting/shooting scope with the emphasis leaning toward hunting. In most hunting situations, the need to dial more than 11 Mils with modern calibers and rifles isn’t necessary. Even if most of what you’re doing is shooting and you plan to shoot at some really extended ranges a great deal of the time with that 20-30 MOA base, then simply zeroing at a greater distance than 100 will go a long way. Second - the LHT is a scope designed to have big riflescope features in a very lightweight package that would be right at home on a mountain hunting gun. The Rev stop zero stop is exceptionally light weight and to use a different style would add a very significant amount of weight to the scope up high which isn’t ideal for a number of reasons when it comes to hunters considering weight down to the ounces. 11 Mils is a fair bit of elevation adjustment - what cartridge are you shooting? What do you actually intend to do with it? If it’s really limiting - why don’t you just go without it? If you’re really dialing that much, maybe you don’t even need a zero stop since you’ll probably be well aware of how much you’ve dialed into the scope
Looks like you bought the wrong scope for your applications. Shoulda done more research
@@VortexOpticsUSAlove this explanation. Shows a lot of thought goes into each optic to cater to each shooters unique needs
I wish that Vortex have a Sales partner in Brazil, here we have no restrictions to buy scopes and reddots, the only restriction is the price from particular sellers!!!
Strike Eagle 5-25x56 have been huge here in the UK already!
What is the difference in the Vortex L-Tec Turret Tool and the Vortex L-Tec AMG Turret Tool? Thank you
After I set my my vortex venom how do I get the zero marks on the cam to set zero on the line of the cap
I’m a beginner at long range shooting. I just ordered this scope. How can I go about learning this scope starting from the basics so I can get the most out of it? The farthest range I’ve ever sighted for is 100 yards so adjustments on a turret are completely foreign to me. What resources could I look to in order for me to learn? I need a dummied down version lol.
I would recommend checking out the book "The Ultimate Optics Guide To Rifle Shooting". It can be found on our website. This will give you a great overall understanding of scopes and adjustments to get you started. As always, we are here to help if you have any questions come up! Give us a call at 1-800-4VORTEX ext. 5 if you have any questions come up!
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I have the diamondback 5-24 ffp. How can I get a hard stop for this scope ?
Thank You
Looking to use for precision rimfire and need 70 Moa for long range rimfire. Looks like this won’t work if I want to keep the zero stop.
Correct - if you set the zero stop it wouldn't work, but if you did not set the Rev Stop you would have plenty (depending on where you fall in the internal travel).
Thanks
Still sucks that is limits to 18 mils, I'll leave the ring out. When I purchased the scope I thought it had a zero stop that would allow me more range, very misleading. I'll use the Strike Eagle on my guns that I don't shoot as far.
elkbow I'm in the same boat as you, thought I could use total 110 MOA ad a 30 MOA base and I'm dialing my 22LR for ELR but not the case with zero stop. They didn't make that clear when it came out... My Bad !!!
Same here. I made wrong decision. I thought it will allow me to dial 80 moa or more. But only 47 moa. I need more than 80 moa.
@@tangseng7405 If you really need more than 80 MOA than the Strike Eagle is not the scope for you regardless.....
What do you think about mount it on an air rifle? I just ordered one for my air rifle but it got me thinking about my airgunt has a high rail and that probably will take some MOA away from my scope. Plus on an air rifle it's very comun to shoot at short distances ,and this scope sighting from 15 yards to infinity
Air guns, unless it is PCP, are very hard on scopes. If your air gun isn’t spring fired then there is no problem. I’m sure you knew this already.
So does this mean putting either of these scopes on a 20 or 30 moa base is useless? Since the rev stop will limit the elevation gained from the base? What scopes will take advantage of canted bases?
More expensive scopes.
You have to shoot the rifle and sight it in FIRST, THEN remove your top turret, set your turret back down onto the scope to zero.
Now you are ZERO`d to whatever your distance you sighted it in at. Its not rocket science.
I have a question, I zeroed my vortex Venom install revstop with 147grn bullets but now i wanna zero it to 130. Can i remove the rev stop, zero it again and install rev stop again?
Yes
Informative thanks
So, if the turrets on both MOA & MIL are turning the same number of revolutions, why doesn’t the MOA reticle have as much travel on the reticle since it should have more click values for the same rotation of the turret?
MOA uses 1/4 MOA (roughly .25/.26” per click) per click and MIL is turning 1/10 MIL (roughly .36” per click). 1 MIL at 100yds is around 3.6” while 1 MOA is 1.047”. Because of this variance the MIL version is able to have more travel per rotation while the MOA has more precise adjustments but less overall travel. It would take the MOA version more revolutions of the turret to match the “distance” covered by the MIL turrets.
Think of it as a fine thread vs a course thread bolt. Moa is the fine thread mil is the coarse. If you turn a nut on each bolt one turn the course thread will move the nut a further distance, it will take less turns to thread the nut all the way down.
But we are turning the turret the same number of revolutions (360’) so the actual distance moved per revolution should be the same since there are fewer mils in a revolution compared to a minute of angle. At the end of the day it’s still 360 degrees. The clicks are more course on the milrad compared to the MOA turret.
@@rogercarlton4385
Go get a fine thread bolt and a course thread bolt. Put nuts on them. Make exactly one turn on each nut then measure the distance the nut moved vertically.
I'm sorry but what you are saying about utilizing a 20 MOA base does not make any sense. Either way you're still going to have only two revolutions no matter what base you put on there even if you put a 40 MOA base you still going to have two revolutions of up am I right
Not necessarily - if you are zeroing high in the elevation travel you will only have the adjustments that are left which may not be 2 full revolutions. A 20 MOA base would ensure that you are getting the most adjustment possible.
@@VortexOpticsUSA I put a 20 MOA on my300 RUM. With my 3-15-42 LHT I still get 11 mils of total 2 revolutions. Same as the 0 MOA base. Almost 2 complete revolutions. I removed the zero rev. Bad engineering in my opinion.
@@VortexOpticsUSA So if I understand this correctly. the use of the rev stop essentially negates the use of a MOA positive base? or at least your best option would be a 6moa base for the strike eagle. I would have thought the zero stop consumes "x" amount of adjustment on the bottom end, thus moving your zero further in the other direction by use of a base would be advantageous. I just took my Viper PST 2 in and swopped for a strike eagle. seems that may have been a mistake
Just had a look at the system. it is a simple/cheap solution that negates the use of a canted base (Except in the scenario where your zero is at such a setting as to run out of adjustment before the zero stop ring is engaged) basically, the turret cap does not change in height when rotated, the internal mech slides within the turret cap. there is a stationary pin in the scope body and a rotating pin in the turret cap, the zero stop ring has a track for the pin to travel in on both sides. thus the bottom pin can almost make a full revolution in its track and the same with the rotating pin, thus you end up with almost two full revolutions irrespective of where you are in the travel. it would have been better if the cap moved with the adjustments and was designed such that it clears the stop in on revolution and vice versa, re engages the track or stop when rotated toward zero. this is definitely disappointing. should know when something sounds to good to be true..........
So pretty much if you are using the zero stop, it will limit elevation adjustment at the same number, no matter if you have 10moa rail or 60moa rail, lol
This isnt zero stop it is rev stop.
Hi expert why my scope I view the images not stable move around???thks expert
What do you call a pretty far distance dude?
Just zero it out using Burris xtr rings.
They want the light weight!
I’m the kid in class thinking what in the fuck is he talking about???🤯🔫🍄
Not handy for a .308 at 1000 yards
So I presume you made this limiting zero stop because it saved money in manufacturing and you want some type of zero stop feature. Otherwise making a product that you limit its ability makes no sense.
It needs to be redesigned so it doesn't limit travel. Get to work!
Guys, very disappointed in your scope. Customer lost
Hey Michael - what seems to be going on?
your mouth is moving but why don't you put the camera down where the scope is it show us how it operates
This just seams like a either a lazy or poor design from a consumers perspective. Engineering and production wise it makes sense but it gives the impression that you care more about finding the easy solution rather than the right solution. Regardless of the intended use, why limit your product for a feature you are including in the price of the total product? I love your products but this is disappointing.