Adobe Audition True Peak Limiter: Loud, Controlled Dialogue!
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- Опубліковано 21 жов 2024
- Dialogue not loud enough for your film or video project? Using Adobe Audition? Good news! In the 2015.1 release of Audition, Adobe added a true peak limiter! This means that you can use the “match loudness” panel to make your dialogue audio loud enough and at the same time, not worry about the audio peaks clipping and distorting.
This is a great little timesaving feature. Thank you Adobe!
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2 hours of searching how to fix this and I finally found this video. Thank You so much! Literally saved my nerves
Glad it helped!
Best audio tutorials on youtube. Thank you Curtis.
+Peter Pan thanks Peter!
Does Audition link with Premiere the same way After Effects does?
+CZsWorld Audition does dynamically link with Premiere, yes.
Curtis, I'm a little confused. Our ears are RMS instruments, right? Meaning that our ears can only detect a few hundred Hz. With the advent of digital we now use peak data instead of RMS? True peak editing would mainly be for making sure your audio is in compliance with broadcast standards?
Thanks in advance!
+The Photo/Video Show Good question and you are absolutely right - our ears hear closer to RMS or sustained loudness and not transient peaks which is exactly what makes true peak limiters so useful. We can use compressors in combination with limiters to get rid of the stuff that robs us of headroom, peaks which our ears cannot really hear anyway. True peak limiters are more thorough than peak limiters in that they can anticipate cases where the analogue waveform may actually clip even though the digital samples on either side of it may not technically clip.
There are a few benefits to true peak limiters. One, of course, is to meet broadcast standards which are mainly focused on making sure that sound is uniform from program to program and does not overload broadcast or receiving equipment. They enable us to create headroom (again, generally using a compressor first to retain a more natural sound) so that we can normalize the main body of audio and make it loud enough for playback on less-than-optimal mobile devices. And what is more, these are often mobile devices that are used in much-less-than-optimal listening environments like on subways, planes, trains, etc.
Im pretty sure you have the adobe audition manual downloaded in your head. This is great information.
+UpHill Cinema Ha! Thanks Levi.
This was very helpful! Even 3 years later. Thanks bud!
Thanks, glad it helped!
Even 5 years later!!! Thank you! :)
Great Stuff Curtis. Have the new release and didn't know this was even in there. Very helpful!
+Basic Filmmaker You can rely on your favorite audio enthusiast/nerd (me!) to point out this sort of thing!
+Curtis Judd Actually, that is the truth. Why read the release notes when you have a Curtis? LOL. Thanks. I may not comment on all your videos, but I watch every one. :)
Curtis, I jumped over to your two most recent vids after watching this, and it seems you've done something different between this video and those new ones. your newer dialogue seems much easier to listen to, is it just a better studio/gear that did that or did you learn something new between now and then? wondering if it's something I could learn and use.
Hi Layarion, yes, learned how to use a compressor more effectively. Also EQ. I have some mid-range stuff in my voice that usually benefits from a bit of EQ cut.
thanks for your help
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Hey Curtis, you should have anticipated your love for sound and choose "learnsoundmaybelightforvideo" because you really concentrate on the sound aspect. :) Love your info sharing btw
+Alexandre Almeida Haha! Thanks Alexandre. I still love light. We're not done with that yet. ;-)
Thank you for great tutorials! Please demonstrate the use of this normalization, compression and limiter in FCPX too.
+RealWorld Endo It is in my queue for future episodes. Thanks! One note: at present, FCPX does not have a true peak limiter plugin included, but we can certainly demonstrate compression and make-up gain (sort of like normalization).
Curtis, there is a Logic Limiter in FCPX. May not be a True Limiter but it's a limiter nevertheless. Is that not the case?
+RealWorld Endo Yes, absolutely. We'll include it.
Very interesting! I have Adobe Audition CS6 on Windows 10 that I purchased a few years ago, and it definitely doesn't have that feature. I see that they now have Adobe Audition CC as an upgrade, but I'm not into the monthly plan thing.
+Vinyl 2CD Rescue Totally understand. Its a tough sell.
+Curtis Judd I went and downloaded the trial version and played with it for awhile. The extra feature is okay, but not really needed for what I do. The Amplitude Statistics are just fine for monitoring my album and CD editing needs. Then I uninstalled it.
www.vinyl2cdrescue.com/home.html
First of all, thank you very much for all your great work and help. Question: My Adobe Audition is limiting (chopping) my peaks in the recording to -10db. I used to be able to record at any volume level, but something changed without my intervention (unless I have accidentally changed something I can't recall), so now the recording level has a limiting feature that I can't de-activate, or even find. Can you help with this?
It sounds like maybe you have a limiter or compressor saved in the effects rack.
@@curtisjudd Thank you very much for your help.
Do you know if there is a way of reducing the peaks, but boosting the dialogue? ( dialogue too quiet but peaks too loud)
Yes, compression and then normalization: ua-cam.com/video/-J1v0bdji6c/v-deo.html
Love this tutorial! I just processed my first ever podcast episode and this was super helpful.
Congrats and happy podcasting!
Soo Helful
Is This for only diologue? Can i use this vor Vocal?
Works for vocals, too!
Thanks! Just started using Audition and am really excited to get everything working. Can you macro the match loudness function since it's not an expression?
You can drop a bunch of clips in the window and process them all at once. Good luck getting up to speed with Audition!
Don't mind me, just making notes
effects->amplitude and compression->single band compressor
threshhold: 15db
3x1 ratio
attack: 1ms
release: 150 ms
apply
Next
match volume, -19, 1, true peak -1.5
Make file duo-mono: right click, convert sample type, stereo
scan selection w amplitude stats, should give loudness of -16 on stereo, -19 on mono, true peak 1.5
Nice summary of what I did, but you need to tune the compressor settings to your situation. Those most likely will NOT be the best settings for every voice.
@@curtisjudd How do I know what compressor settings to tune to?
@@ambiguousaesthetic4170 Start with a 3:1 ratio, attack 1ms, release 500ms and then adjust the threshold down until starts to sound odd - sort of smashed - then pull the threshold back up a little until it sounds more natural again.
Awesome! Thanks a lot for the video!
Thanks!
Could you make a video showing how to deal with reverb on a video with multiple lavalier audio tracks from a dialog where one artist seats next to each other? (like a 4 person talk) I've been having lots of issues to have a good sound. Tried phase alignment but still couldn't make it sound right. Thanks and keep up the amazing work!!
Yes, it's in my list of to-do items. Thanks!
I have a video request! Could you do some tips and tricks for recording dialogue for video game or animation projects? Film dialogue, podcasts, and narration are done a little differently than video game and animation, and have a completely different audio quality, and I think it'd be amazing if you'd explore that a little!
Hey, thanks for the request! Looks like I'll need to dive into those genres to see what they're about.
I think it involves a lot more EQ, pretty intricate noise reduction, recording environment, and much more fine-tuned compression. Very interesting, and I think with as big as indie video games are getting, a lot of people are looking for tips for recording their stuff!
Thanks for an excellent tutorial. Hopefully my book will get through ACX now :D
I hope it does - good luck!
@@curtisjudd Thanks!
@@curtisjudd It did get through ACX! This really helped - many thanks!
Very nice Tutorial.Thank You. :)
Thanks
very informative
+ThatWasSexyPit Thanks
Thank you! This was great.
+Logan Cheshier Thanks!
you the man Curtis, always to the point and insightful
Thanks Aaron!
Brilliant! Really useful review of new feature plus how to actually use the Match Loudness feature correctly ... I'm in the process of switching from Audacity to Adobe Audition and it seems to be way more powerful but not so intuitive (I know, RTFM) so keep those Adobe Audition tutorials coming.
Just wondering why you converted the Mono track to Dual Mono at the end and not to Stereo?
I've been experimenting with my new AT4053b (even my wife now think it sounds better than my old Rode NG2 - but we're both still on The List) and using Audition to sweeten the dialog for her UA-cam Channel vlogs and have been converting the Mono to Stereo but is it better to convert to Dual Mono for UA-cam Channel broadcast?
For my VR shoots, I convert the Mono audio files to Stereo and then pan Left and Right to give the illusion of spatial audio and it seems to work well in UA-cam360 as well as in the VR HMDs.
Cheers,
Neil
P.S. which mike did you use for this episode? ... sounded more Sennheiser than AT.
+VRabbit Hole Hi Neil, glad to hear you're enjoying the AT!
In this case, since we're coming from a mono track, dual mono and stereo are technically the same thing. With dialogue, I'm typically aiming for center for a natural sound. Panning out is useful when you want to create a spatial environment type of feel or voice of god feel.
This one was recorded with an Electrovoice RE20, a legendary dynamic broadcast microphone.
So if you have many files that are unused because you've been doing punch and roll, and now you need to match the levels for your whole book with just the files you're using how can this be done?
Like why can't I drag my clips from the timeline... so frustrating.
Hi Sean. You can drop all of the clips into the match loudness panel and normalize them to the same LUFS target.
Also, to clarify, you drop the clips from the file window into the match loudness panel, not the timeline.
@@curtisjudd Thanks Curtis. Isn't it displaying all clips, even unused though? Maybe this doesn't matter... hmm. I'll have to consider thanks!
@@chickenmuffin Yes, but there's no harm in normalizing them all. That will get all of the clips you ARE using to the same perceived loudness.
many thanks! that's what I have been looking for. Great presentation too :-)
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omg that is so exactly what i needed but i didnt know that i needed it lol Thank you for that video! that made my wedding sound way better
+Zakhar Arbuzov Glad it helped!
Thank you once again for an excellent video Curtis.
+JLVPictures You're welcome and thank you Jarno.
Seriously good....
Thanks
This was super helpful. Thank you!
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great!!! thanks !!
You're welcome!
Thanks, Curtis! Your tips help us give the best we can give!
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Helpful still after 6 years 3 months.
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Thank you for making all those great videos. I have a completely off topic question though and didn't know where would be a good place to ask so I'll just do it here. I have Zoom H5 and a GH4. When I feed my audio from H5 to GH4 via line out on recorder to camera's line in I get a lot of noise even after I dropped line out to -30db on H5 and moved GH4's preamp slider all the way to it's lowest setting. Audio recored to Zoom H5 will always be much cleaner the one fed to GH4. I heard there's come special 3.5mm cable (Sescom LN2MIC-ZOOMH4N - Line to Microphone Attenuation Cable for HDSLR Cameras) must be used between recorder and camera to solve this issue. I use just some cheap cord I got from dollar store. Do you happen to know anything about it? Thank you and again, sorry for asking under video that doesn't belong to subject.
Hi Ivan, an attenuation cable will reduce the overall sound signal. So the noise and the dialogue will all be reduced. How is the dialogue in terms of level in your setup? Is it so loud that it is distorting? If so, the attenuation cable may be a good choice but it doesn't act as a noise filter, it just reduces everything.
+Curtis Judd thanks for your reply. overall signal sounds a bit to much on the lowest settings but it has a lot of hiss as well. I could record a couple of samples if you would be interested in examining them. Have you ever experienced difference in sound quality between your GH4 feed and the one recorder by your tascam dr60m2?
+Ivan Vodchenko Yes, happy to have a listen. I absolutely experience a difference between my GH4 an Tascam. The Tascam is much, much cleaner and warmer sounding.
Curtis Judd Here are the samples from Zoom H5 cl.ly/e0e2 and GH4 cl.ly/e0Y8 I used an XLR Audio-Technica AT2020 with phantom power channel #1, recording was set to mix mono to stereo from channels 1&2. Gain level was set to 6 on a dial. Zoom output was set to -30db and camera mic level was set to -12
+Ivan Vodchenko The Zoom recording sounds cleaner to my ear, as expected and as you described. I doubt that an attenuator cable will make the GH4 recording better in terms of noise performance, it will just reduce the dialogue and the noise together. So then you'll have to boost it all in post and have the same issue. The limiting factor is the quality of the GH4 preamps and there's no way around that if you send the signal to the GH4, unfortunately.
REALLY helpful, many thanks.
+Greg Wallis Thanks Greg.
Thanks bro!! That's exactly what I needed!!
You're welcome!
Very, very helpful! Thank you!
Thanks Jorge!
Thank you so much! I needed this and you are so concise!
Thanks Steven!
Thanks for this great tip!
+Colin Leask Thanks for the feedback!
So much spit sound in this video :(
Yes, a lot learned since I did this 6 years ago.