SOLDERING 18650 BATTERY - SAFER & MORE CAREFUL
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- Опубліковано 27 лис 2020
- DISCLAIMER: I am not responsible for any injury and/or damage from anyone watching this video.
Please follow my instructions at your own risk.
Soldering 18650 can be dangerous because lithium-ion batteries are not heat tolerant and they can explode or combust by fire.
How to solder 18650 batteries safer and more careful:
Step 1: Make surface rough using sand paper or utility knife.
Step 2: Add blob of solder to each surface first
Step 3: Combine and melt both solder blobs together quickly
Please be careful using this technique, the key is to NEVER heat-up the battery too much.
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That is a cold solder joint. Can come apart when you don't want it to. You did some things right and some things wrong.
Solder does not grab metal like a finish in woodworking, it wets to the metal. Sanding is good but use the fine sandpaper. The purpose is to remove the oxide layer that the solder will not wet too. Clean before and after sanding with acetone.
On soldering, only use a soldering station that will keep a steady temperature, not a soldering iron that just is on and keeps heating. Put a good amount of liquid flux on the pad and wire you want to pre-tin. Use a big soldering tip that can dump a lot of heat fast. This will get the soldering done faster so less heat total. Apply more flux and solder. Use only enough solder to get a visible fillet. Too much and you can have a cold solder joint that will hold but is weak and will break. Any humps in the solder is a bad sign.
To the never solderers, the above process will create a superior joint than spot welding and not dump too much heat. The electrical contact is an order of magnitude higher and the ability to use copper leads to lower resistance of the pack which is superior in high power applications.
That stuff is called tip reconditioner, it is used when the soldering iron tip becomes oxidized. This rarely happens, and should only be used when needed. Instead what you need is a sponge soaked in water. You wipe the soldering iron tip to clean it. Instead of sanding the surface, you need to use flux. Flux is a substance you apply before soldering, it allows the iron to heat the solder surface, such as the 18650 battery.
Scratching the surface of the battery connector!! That trick made it work for me. Thank you!
Great Job. Thanks
Just make sure you do not spend too much time heating up the 18650 battery tops.
so useful sir thanks
Hmm risky.... make sure to never heat up the terminals at all, just touch and go, better to use spot welding.
What's the temp of your soldering iron sir?
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Solder iron heat adjustable you use
If you are probably tinned, you cab on the battery and off in 1 1/2 seconds
it puts the lotion on the skin and does what it's told...... put the soldering flux on the metal before applying solder.... your just vaporizing it with your hot iron
Whoa nice, I did not know you can solder 18650 like that ...
@HN Developer apparently whether 18650 can be soldered or should be soldered is a hot debated topic. I just replied to a comment below that said 'do not solder 18650'? I have safely done it for many years with over 20 18650s which 95% are still in operation until today.
Man did a 10minutes video to show u how to solder improperly.
The wire goes inside the solder, not on top of it.
No matter what I do I can't get the solder to stick to the battery
Kester solder
Has anyone put the battery in the freezer 1st ???
Only safe way to solder to an 18650, is NOT too.
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Not a good idea to sandpaper the metal and then leave oily fingerprints on the surface. There are cheap spot welders out there made for the job - $15-$20.
I just tried doing this and the battery EXPLODED
My batteries doing that (i.e. going🧨💣) is exactly the reason I’ve been too afraid of repairing and/or building my battery-packs.
Almost all he is saying is not the way I do it. 1. I use 220 grit to remove the oxidation from the battery surface then a q-tip with a little rubbing alcohol. 2. I use a liquid flux made for stainless steel applied to the battery not the iron 3. I use the exact same soldering iron and tip that he used on the 400 degree setting. 4. I put load up the tip with rosin core solder and in a quick motion rub it on battery surface. It only take 1 second to tin the battery and no going back again and again as he did ending with a cold solder blob. The solder should flow to a thin nice shiny surface. 5. Blowing on the battery does nothing to lower the damaging heat in the core of the battery. 6. When I connect with nickle strips that have been prepared with 220 grit sandpaper,alcohol and stainless flux (like the battery) then I tin the nickle strips. Tin both sides if you are going to add more then on nickel strip for extra connections. Let is cool then holding strip very near above the battery surface apply the iron to the back side of the nickle strip on the opposite side from the tinned solder when it melts quickly move it on top of the battery with the iron for 1 second. 7. Allow several minutes for the battery to cool between steps.
You are the idiot. You have no qualifications, stupid.
How to make a bomb
Do. Not. Solder. 18650.
@elektrinis I have been doing it for many years ... other than risk of fire (if you overheat it too much) would you care to elaborate what your reason(s) are?
@@DIYGEEKTEXAS Yeah, I have also observed DIY projects on various forums for 15 years. Saw a lot of fires. Somehow everyone is very confident about their build until they suddenly stop writing... And then you see on the news, why. I'm serious, saw tens of fires already. People close to me had 6 fires already, on seemingly decent builds.
@@circuitdotlt Thanks for your reply, my channel is here to stay and I am NOT trying to make fire in my house or for my viewers. Would you let us know if the fire occurs during the soldering process? I have (for fun) axed (punctured) a lithium-ion battery on purpose to see what would happen. A whole lot of gas and some liquid bursting and it got really hot. So I guess the biggest question for me is ... does the fire risk occur during soldering? or is fire risk still exists after soldering?
@@DIYGEEKTEXAS some fires are caused by careless handling, accidental short circuits, etc. For example soldering can sometimes break off, cause a hot point due to bad contact, solder can melt ant drip on something, shorting it... Soldering will also damage internal structure of the cell. For example, on positive side of cell there is an internal bimetallic fuse, so you stress it a little by soldering, which can lead to higher resistance and temperature increase during operation.
Most fires, however, happen due to operation without BMS or an inadequate BMS. For example, if you let you cells discharge below certain level, this will cause a growth of dendrites on the anode, which will eventually puncture the polymer and develop in to internal short circuit. This usually happens when the cell is at the end of charging cycle, all warm and full of energy, ready to be released...... So another lesson is to never use a li-ion cell if you don't know it's history. There are certain tests, like self-discharge test, but it's not 100% reliable.
@@circuitdotlt Thanks for the detailed explanation. I understand from what your explanation that soldering may damage internal structure of the cell. Which is logical. Do you know what is the threshold temperature of those bimetallic fuses? I believe it really depends of how careful you are during the soldering process. I only rest my soldering iron for max 2 seconds just to melt my solder, my iron barely even touches the battery most of the time. I know there is a risk here, that's why there is a disclaimer on the video description.
That is a verry bad way you put 5 times heat on the battery , you should go in one time lots of heat but verry short and why cut the wire and then soldering an other wire ?? beats me man , better learn first how to do it wright befor making a how to
Notice how the flux instantly evaporated into smoke?
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Bro doesn't know how to apply flux
You did not connect the nickel strip to the battery, you connected a wire to the battery. This is a very dumb video.
NEVER solder to an 18650 cell. This will at best reduce the power density of the cell, and worst case scenario, will cause a fire, or explosion.