this was clearly not promoted and advertised correctly but hats off to the performers still brought the energy as though there was thousands in the stands
Big Daddy Kane is a true showman. He still brings energy, a live band, and plenty of stage presence. He looks great, and his sets aren't filled with unnecessary 'hype men' tripping over each other on stage. Whether it's for a crowd of 100 or 10,000, he puts on a show with the same commitment and charisma.❤❤
NOT TRUE KANE CAME IN A DIRTY TSHIRTS DIDDNT TAKE THE EFFORT TO WEAR FLASH HIPHOP CLOTHING HE USE TO WEAR ,AND NO SCOOP AND SCRAP LOVER BACK UP DANCERS ?WHEN A FEW PAYING FANS WANTED TO DANCE NEXT TO HIM LIVEN UP THE SHOW ,HE WASNT HAVING IT ,IT HAD TO BE SOBER I GUESS !
I went to see the death metal band Deicide back in the late 90's and there were only around 10 people in attendance. Their frontman Glen Benton has always had a self depreciating sense of humor, so we had a "pizza party". He ordered two large pizzas from the venue kitchen, set them on the stage and took a 5 minute break while we all ate pizza lol. It was awesome!
@@spinflux The night I went it was snowing rather heavily and the roads were getting bad, so I think a lot of people with tickets stayed home, since the ticket only cost $4. I really wish I had a video camera back then because it was hilarious hearing Glen talk about Deicide officially being the Satanic equivalent of an animatronic pizza parlor band lol, and it was well before FNAF.
Washington probably performed so long because EPMD wasn’t even there yet So He did y’all a favor and not leaving y’all sitting there After hearing they had y’all move for them too, they weren’t even there yet and then weren’t happy with the crowd once they were Guru is thee only one I’ve ever had do that half arss performance and do few sec of few songs It was Fight Night in Vegas and He half arssed it Lost any respect for that turd Yes I know he’s gone. Kane is The Sheeit. His shows are Dope Kane De La & The Likz are the best live
Or artists can't accept that they're done. Why book this venue? They couldn't have possibly thought they were going to sell out? On top of it the sound is completely amateur and sounds AWFUL!
Facts...I saw a Vid Pop up showing 2 members of Public Announcement(R Kelly) Performing on what looked like the back of a Meat Truck in a Back Yard.... Shit was crazy
Back in early 2000s Public Enemy passed through town at a modest sized concert venue. Maybe 1000 capacity. They sold about 40 tix and cancelled the show. A local promoter found out and asked em to play a club. They agreed and played this tiny club with a band and it was an amazingly energetic show.
@@jayman3915 probably a venue by venue basis. Clearly this place didnt have that policy. These big tours that are cancelling this past year are a big eye opener and probably do have a policy like that. Major disconnect between online popularity and live nation/Ticketmaster greed.
I saw Public Enemy at the Santa Monica Civic Auditorium back in the day. A bunch of gangsters from South Central showed up to the show, and they were pounding on people in the audience. At one point it got so bad, Chuck D stopped performing to try to get them to stop, and you could still hear his vocals playing in the background.
@@imagesinla8575Lol damn. I saw them at Pinks Garage in 1990, it was cool to see them but the venue was like a corrugated metal garage and the sound was horrible. But what the hell, tix were less than $20 back then
First off, props to them and the promoters for not cancelling. Not only that but, looks like all the performers gave a good show. Nobody goin through the motions really. And finally… what a beautiful theater!
@@Mr.CireSoprano -- It's only those who have no familiarity with, knowledge of, or respect for the icons and legends of Hip-Hop & R&B who are not complaining.
Great review! Agreed, it’s all about promotion. Times are changing w Pop music, but EPMD and Kane will always have my respect and gratitude for inspiring me since the 80s. ‘So what you sayin” on repeat in my spirit. I saw Kane on my corner in Chicago like 88’, he was so chill and kind, zero half steppin’ 🙏
I enjoyed all of these acts growing up. Great coverage of the show. I enjoyed your commentary as well. I’m sure they’ll sell out more on the East Coast. Kudos to them for continuing the show though.
I'm sure the show had very little marketing aside from Spotify. Four very fabulous acts that you got to see for practically nothing and up close. I'm very jealous. Excellent review as always Kurt.
Lol good one, I was thinking the same im 50 plus and not really trying to go to a cincert anymore I still check for my favorite old school MCs for new music or shows just to see if they're active
A lot of music festivals I’ve been to in past few years I see a HUGE amount of 50+ year olds. Depends on who’s playing etc. funny thing is 90’s acts (especially hip hop) has little interest and usually doesn’t garner a big crowd unless their’s other acts considered pioneering or other genres that have a bigger following.
Nothing strange about the event at all. It's common in the hip-hop genre. Money, promotion, advertising and ticket sales will drop as rappers age. Some artists who were selling out NBA arenas 20 years ago are now performing at the State Fair. That's just how the business goes.
That is so true. Soul/ funk bands from the 1980’s were going through the same thing during the height of HipHop era in the late 1980’s. I’m no fan of the HipHop generation but it is kinda sad to see how ALL THESE ARTISTS used to fill up stadiums all over the U.S. at the height of their popularity and as the music scene changes & are no longer making hits anymore, their stars begin to fade & life starts changing drastically for most of them. That’s when we begin to see all these soul/ funk / hiphop artists start performing at little venues, casinos & at State Fairs, a long way from being the headliner at stadiums but this is the reality of the music industry & all these artists know “it is what it is” cause their bills still need to be paid……
Well, a few years ago it seemed to me like old school shows were raking in the money. At least with black middle class areas. But in the last few years, I understand why people can't afford shows
@@lilpoindexterFacts I'm in my 40's but I have a messed up back. No artist would get me to put myself through that no matter which legend they put on stage.
@@Essays4College That's almost possible... Being that Rob passed away,They could get Fab and the "actual" singers of Milli Vanilli and repackage the group using the name.Old Groups do it all the time, depending on who has the trademark.
Awesome that you shared these legend artists with your son. This was poorly promoted, but what professionals to go on with the show! I've seen this happen in the middle city venues, we're between San Francisco and LA.
A bummer regarding the turnout and promotion for these Legends in Concert. But VERY good to hear the positive review and seeing that you and your son had a good time.....
@@daniellemonroe4347Soulja isn't even average, to even suggest that is a laugh. I knew 6th graders in the 90s in New York that would crush him, and that's no hyperbole.
I went to a "the game"concert and it was so few people we all got to get up on stage and jam with him. And this was at the height of his popularity in mid-2000s
Emptiest concert I've been to has to be The Roots at Villanova in Spring of 1997. I was attending Valley Forge Military College. I went with 3 classmates. There were fewer than 20 people in that room!!! The Roots were already big at the time, so it was a huge surprise that they were performing for a empty room for free! Was a great night!
Truth be told, I’m sure they appreciate the ones that came out. Yes, it can be very discouraging in a crowd of less than 20, but I’m sure they appreciate that small crowd.
They were rockin' out, as always! The frat boys and girls were just talking amongst themselves. Felt like a private show. I kept thinking those students didn't even realize what they were listening to.
@@Nader_61 I can’t stand frat kids, college kids at that 😂🤦🏽♂️ and I’m only 31 🙄 ONYX was just in a sold-out venue in St. Petersburg in the middle of a war 😳 you know how crazy that is?? 😂
There were a similar situation in my hometown of Rochester, New York. The show was called the Original Kings of Hip-Hop; The sugarhill gang, UTFO, Kurtis Blow & break dancers, Coolio and hosted by Busy Bee. Sadly a quarter of the audience showed up. It's a sad reminder that this generation as well as my generation (I'm 50 plus) either are too busy or don't care. Dang!
Funny u say that. I took my nephews to a random minor league baseball game in Clearwater one nite. Has no idea it was a hip hop themed thing. Anyways they had a small stage set up by the bleachers and after the game Slick Rick performed followed by Coolio. There was maybe 50/100 people tops. I was giddy to see Slick Rick who I think is an underrated top ten MC of all time but it was also kinda sad. Like I feel like an amateur slam poetry nite at the local coffee shop would draw a bigger crowd. First and likely only time I’ll ever be in the front row of a concert I loved and didn’t pay a dime
It’s the gender of hip hop. Classic rock acts and 90’s rock groups are selling out huge arenas and stadiums. etc. Hip-hop is trend culture. No one wants to hear someone playing backing tracks that were already samples of 80’s music when it was popular in the 90s. . 😮😂😅
It's just not THEIR generation of music. Back in the 90s, I wouldn't have wanted to sit through a concert with music from the 50s. It wasn't about "not respecting the music". It was simply music had changed from the 50s to the 90s--just as it changed from the 90s to the 20s.
@@lql1094 Im gen x and though I didn't sit through concerts of 60's artists I went through my their record collection and listened..that's what molded my taste in music thats where I discovered Otis Redding, The Ohio Players and that goes for many Gen X and older because our parent's music became the foundation for hip hop.
I’m 50 & my 19 year old Daughters love the late 80s/90s hip hop… since I’ve been playing my records for them since their birth! The love seeing DJ’s/Turntablist too! Unfortunately, they do like a lot of todays rap generation which I simply can’t listen too! I still have hundreds of WORD UP magazines, clothing, mix tapes & over 15k records I’ve been collecting since I was 8 years old! I miss the old dayz!!!
@@DUNGSTA Oh hell no! "The times" lmao! 🤣 He preserved some of the best of Rap/r&b history! And then taught the love to his daughters who live in "the times" of today. And I guarantee they LOVE him for it! We're all blessed for him and what he's done. ❤ Don't be rude and disrespectful. Your day will come when you'll remember the music of your "times" and hopefully you will have saved something for your kids too!
Do you share your stuff anywhere? Like on Facebook or here on UA-cam? I was born in 82, so the 80's/90's are my ❤ too! It sounds like you have a lot to share! 😊
Well let's be real the fans that came up with them are now grandparents and busy adults. We have supported these artists since way back. They have been living good from the money we have put in their pockets. Most of us are still out here struggling to get the bills paid and don't have time to be at every show these guys want to perform at..
I wouldnt go if it was a free concert. I had all the epmd cassettes too. Just dont want to see some has beens shitting on thier legacy all for the money and to feel cool again.
Oh you think the fans that fill stadiums for the rolling stones aren't grandparents and busy adults? It's just HIPHOP that does this although these legends still get love in Europe.
That sucks because Big Daddy Kane is one of the best live performers in Hip Hop. The issue with attendance is a number of reasons. The promoter didn't do their job, 40-70 year old live on Facebook, so you gotta advertise on that platform that has become old people's social life. It's harder to get people in their late 40's and 50's out of the house especially on a work night. Also Hip Hop shows are notorious for starting late and going late into the morning. Their fanbase needs to take care of kids and work careers in the morning, so they aren't trying to be up all night. Also EPMD and Big Daddy Kane were East Coast acts, there was a time in Hip-Hop were lines were drawn and alot of Old Heads still don't fuck with artists from the opposite coast. Another thing is that unfortunately Hip-Hop is a genre where much of the youth doesn't respect or like what came before them, so you can't expect youngin to show up to an old school concert. Also the old school artists need to accept that they aren't as popular as they once were. Just because you sold out a venue in 1988, does it mean that you can sell out the same venue in 2024. Don't book a double level theater or arena, book a smaller venue like a concert hall, jazz or blues bar, or dance club. Pack a compact space with a small, but devoted fanbase and make it feel special and intimate for them.
Inflation and the state of the economy is the reason. Plenty people still love these artist and would love to see them perform. When all else fails as the promoter you have to just give tickets away to get people in the building. 😎🎭✌️
Nah people still going out to have a good time and concerts, sporting events, trade shows and conferences still sell out. And they cost way more than $34 for two tickets. Some of these Conferences/conventions like Comic Con cost well over $1000 and people line up in droves to attend
An issue might have been promotion. I'm a big Big Daddy and EPMD fan from way back, I live in LA like 20 minutes from the Wiltern, and this video is the first I'm hearing that this show existed
There are tons of terrible promoters out there and especially in LA, no one is going to shows anymore like we did ten years ago. Nightlife in LA is terrible now and (we live down the street). Covid and the hit on the economy and Social Media have killed the party scene. I don't know how the promoter went on with the show knowing how few tickets were sold. Michel'le has always been all over the place but she's still A plus with her voice.
I almost agree with you, but somebody who has a great strategy to have a big concert play to a sold out crowd is none other than Billy Joel. He hasn’t put out new music in decades, and he relegates himself to a decent size venue, makes sure he is appropriately promoted, and keeps his core fan base.
sounds strange but good. I would have loved a small venue concert, it seems no one there was annoying or out of control would have been a great date night concert for a more mature laidback crowd, with pick-your-own seating. You probably won't find nothing like it again, good find.
Hip hop is a young man's genre for the performers. It's sad how fans stop supporting. Especially considering rock legends still sell out shows despite being half dead. You hear a lot about the culture in hip hop but that culture doesn't pay proper respect to its pioneers.
That’s not a fair statement. First off HipHop itself just turned 50, rock has been around since the 50’s. Rock started in an era when the only way you could listen to an artist or band was over radio or records. So it made perfect sense for fans of rock to value shows and concerts,because this was usually the only way to actually view, support and interact with an artist or band. Nowadays it’s way different we have cable tv and the internet and both played major parts in hiphop culture. We could just turn on MTV and BET in the 90’s and log on to any social media nowadays. We can @ our favorite artist anytime we want, we don’t have to pay of an overpriced ticket stand in line and hold a sign up for 3hrs to get our favorite artists attention. We don’t see the same value in concerts and shows, most are overpriced, overhyped, and we usually leave feeling ripped off at the end. We also realize most our favorite artist have little control over their shows and tours, so we are not supporting them as much as we are supporting live nation, promoters, and ticket master.
@@andrejohnson7737 Hip Hop is undoubtedly king in the US and has been for years. Right now the biggest hip hop show is "It's All a Blur Tour" featuring Drake and and 21 Savage. Granted, Drake has been relevant for 10 years now, but do you see him doing arena shows in another 10 years? Will Lil Wayne be doing arena shows in 10 years?
I've been to a few gigs like this, usually the first thing the bands say is to tell everyone in the venue to come to the front of the venue. It's only way to generate any atmosphere.
And then he felt bad because he didn't pay for the seats and didn't want to take advantage of the situation. They told everyone to move up front, so why should he feel bad about that?
Keith Washington is cool I met him in person back in the 80's in Washington DC concert. He has an amazing voice and he came down from the stage and shook hands with the fans...yes l was one of them.
I saw Public Enemy at The Big E in.l Springfield Mass last night. Chuck D and Flavor Flav are still kicking it with a solid group of guys backing them!
I went to a concert maybe 10-11years ago. LL Cool J, PE, Cube, & De La Soul. Was kinda the same thing. Maybe 100 ppl max. No merchandise either. All 4 put on an amazing show! Just sticks out to me that that many legends ppl choose not to see. Reasonable tic prices. These are ppl who layed the foundation of rap music.
I hate 2 hear that , UNfortunately Rap Music/ Hip Hop from an Historic perspective is the Walking Dead in today's world. That's why so many mindless youth / Zombies attend all the WACK modern day concerts instead of legendary creative REAL artist.
I’m SHOCKED that they still went forward with this despite such low ticket sales, I’m not saying every seat has to be sold for a concert to go through but to me it has to be at least 60% as an artist, just for my pride!
You’d think the promoters would at least scramble to switch the venue to a smaller/mid-sized club when they realized their lazy promotion strategy wasn’t going to fill out a theater
I'm here in North Carolina and in 2013 Chrisette Michele and Keisha Cole were supposed to perform at a venue here. People were standing in line waiting only to hear that Chrisette Michele cancelled the show because *it wasn't a big enough venue for her." Smh
Nah bro no one is even going out to see any of them. Even today's popular rappers struggle to sell tickets. Look it up, they're performing to empty venues also. No one is really consuming music the way we used to. Yeah people are listening to these artists but no one is going out to see them. It's just not worth it.
@@blade_warrior_blue Saw BDK last year with Masta Ace in support. 2000 ticket sell out. Saw De La Soul, The Roots ANd The Pahrcyde last month. Approcimately 5000 sell out crowd. People still go.
The messed up with the two opening acts. Concertgoers in LA know what's up. They're not gonna sit through an hours-long show with half the acts being filler. At least not in this economy.
I give a lot of credit to all entertainers. It takes so much to put yourselves out there. Especially to those that are not on their 20s. It takes so much energy. I could never ever do what they do!!
As a rock and metal fan, it’s always been fascinating to me how legacy hip hop acts are almost forgotten about. In our scene legacy bands are still headlining festivals and stadiums and dominating radio play. It’s only recently that radio and bookers are starting to push new up and coming acts.
I went to Jay Z’s Blueprint tour in 2001 at the Fillmore in San Francisco. The floor was full of people but there were literally 6 people in the balcony. The people I was with and another group of 3 people. I was shocked Jay had such few fans show up for a concert. It was a great show, just surprising.
I tell the kids in my family that there is nothing like true live music. I saw so many great concerts I.e. public enemy, the first bad boy tour, and to this day I remember how much fun we had.
Actually to me this sounds like a perfect concert. The older I get, the less I care about having big crowds. I just want to go see the artists I like put on good show! And my experience has told me, more times than not, the smaller more intimate concerts are actually more memorable and fun. I have a good dozen concerts off memory that were small venues, for legends I like. And nearly every time, I had an absolutely killer time. Also as a music artist myself, I think I have had some of my most fun shows in front of 20-30 people. Verses 300-400. The small shows you can really get the audience to participate. Which makes the energy that much better. The bigger venues can be good too. But you have to deal with thousands of people. And many times that means drunk, obnoxious people. So to me, I will take the small shows over the big ones every day of the week.
I live in Glasgow, Scotland. One time Fishbone came here and there was ZERO promotion for the show and hardly anyone showed up. I missed it too. Found out about it the next day on social media.
In 2012, I saw them perform in a small venue in Las Vegas. Less than twenty people were there. It was a great show and I had a blast. Tickets were less than thirty dollars. Week before, they had a show in Los Angeles for seventy to a hundred dollars a ticket. Talk about location makes the price.
@ahanna76 1). When was this ?? 2). Yea Los Angeles is home turf for them and I know they are pretty well known in that area SOO.. like you said earlier and just as well..
@Delboy219 They were most likely probably upset that nobody showed and it took a lot of effort to get over there and another thing they probably don't know their fan base over there because of lousy promotion ALSO.. I have to say, I don't know about the band members but the name and the brand of Fishbone has been around for 40 years so.. I don't know..
I keep telling y'all the record industry has turned off the consumer. too much sex too much violence and too much garbage product has just turned off the consumer to anything having to do with music from The Hip Hop era. this is the sad truth
Music in general. Except for music that appeals to women (Swift). Civilization is on the decline. Music is not that important. Music is just music. You can't live in it or eat it. Music is important in a society that is on the upswing and basics are covered. That's not this one (anymore).
@@sg137iu89absolutely !! They’ve destroyed it ! Only music that would make money during this time of societal decline would be revolutionary music music with a cause music that reflects the and goes against counter culture which is now the main culture and music that attacks criminal political agendas which they will never let that type of music see the light of day !
@@TheRealNewBlackMusic you tube keeps deleting my comment because it’s politically charged against the system and that’s how music should be !!!!!!! Make music that reflects the world climate in a serious way ! Fight the system
Wow I would have loved to come to this show. I have always been a. Huge fan of Big Daddy Kane. All of the artist are amazing. Sorry to hear about the crowd didn’t sell out cause these are real artist
@curlypewbes its crazy you say that. I went to the DMX/Cash Money tour in Feb 2000, when DMX came out the crowd went CRAZY, to this day thats the loudest I’ve ever heard a crowd roar in my life!!
Kurt, I was at work listening to this and I laughed so hard. Then, my next thought was I wish, I would have known about this an entire row to myself. Priceless.
Madness! I live 2 miles from the Wiltern and absolutely would’ve gathered some friends and attended this concert had I known it even existed! Who the hell promoted - rather, failed to promote - this show?!
I would've totally went to see them. Especially for a good price. To bad it was empty. My daughter and i love you're channel. We're from San Francisco. Big trouble in little China post was excellent. I've seen others but you had more insight with the LA locations
The way I look at it - The 80's and 90's are special and they are preserved today in their rareness. The modern world moves fast but these moments in time last forever for whoever wishes to experience.
I can say that you are correct, immediately I thought there was a promotion prob but as you began to talk more and I just sort of watched it, I’d like to throw out a few more possibilities for the show lacking in support. I toured as a musician (bass player) w/ a lot of different artists for about 15 yrs so I’ve seen a lot of situations. 1. Although it looked like a promotion problem, it could’ve also been a $ prob. Sometimes companies are paid to do marketing. Can be international, national, or local. So something may have happened there whether there was a pay issue or a dispute over how many shows to be promoted. Or 2. This was a late added date to fulfill a contract (as in obligation for a certain # of shows). It looks like a case where the promoter wasn’t going to make any money so they did a “let’s just book it and see what happens”. The fact that there was no merch being sold by anyone says that this was very last minute and more obligatory than anything else. I’ve done shows w/ artists where management was literally outside handing out free tix asking people to come just to build a crowd. One other thing is, the situation w/ someone mistaking Darius McCrary’s for Malcolm J Warner is REAL😂. Malcolm used to do (he may still do it) spoken word-animated poems with a band behind him. I actually played bass with him for a while when I was still in cali. He always said that people regularly confused them with one another. They were actually good friends too btw (at least back then)
We have old school concerts like this in Atlanta a lot. They are normally free or very inexpensive, and well attended. Kind of a weird lineup with two R&B artists and two Hip-Hop artists. Nevertheless, I would have been at this show. Glad you enjoyed yourself
That’s truly shocking. I remember all of these bands even Keith Washington and really would’ve thought at least a place would be a3 to half full wow that’s depressing for them indeed thanks bro for shining the light on this. This is really mind blowing especially those amazing prices.
I saw EPMD in 1988 at the Celebrity Theater in Anaheim with Ice-T, Stetsasonic and Public Enemy - for $17.00. I was a young 17 year old and in utter awe of what I witnessed. As we sit here in 2024, dudes like Kane and EPMD just don't resonate with people much anymore--which bums me out. The golden age of Rap is now the same as the golden age of Rock and Roll. The culture which laid the groundwork barely gets the recognition beyond what you might hear on LL's Rock the Bells radio on Sirius.
@@UziMusic EPMD was at the diner and Blitz was getting ready to rob them when Q came in to use the phone. Then he went out and told the crew and Bishop wanted to join in on the robbery, Pac.
I remember at one point New Kids on the Block couldn’t even get a crowd to come see them at my local mall in the early 2000’s. Then suddenly they became trendy again and were selling out concerts. So yeah, you can really see the difference that good promoter can make.
EPMD and Big Daddy Kane?!!!!! Dam, wish I could have been there!!!!!!
Same!
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My and my whole good would be there 😂
Me too!!
Who want to see some old ass rapper
this was clearly not promoted and advertised correctly but hats off to the performers still brought the energy as though there was thousands in the stands
That's what true artist does. Theatre's artist works same way if even 5 people show up...
I believe that cause in my city would've turned out, so the promo wasn't right
@@panama8009 That's what I was going to say. If people haven't turned up, clearly the promoters didn't know what they were doing.
Real Spill 💯
I say the same thing. Promo dropped the ball.
Big Daddy Kane is a true showman. He still brings energy, a live band, and plenty of stage presence. He looks great, and his sets aren't filled with unnecessary 'hype men' tripping over each other on stage. Whether it's for a crowd of 100 or 10,000, he puts on a show with the same commitment and charisma.❤❤
Yea Kane is legit
NOT TRUE KANE CAME IN A DIRTY TSHIRTS DIDDNT TAKE THE EFFORT TO WEAR FLASH HIPHOP CLOTHING HE USE TO WEAR ,AND NO SCOOP AND SCRAP LOVER BACK UP DANCERS ?WHEN A FEW PAYING FANS WANTED TO DANCE NEXT TO HIM LIVEN UP THE SHOW ,HE WASNT HAVING IT ,IT HAD TO BE SOBER I GUESS !
First of all, why are you yelling?💀
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In '89 early 90's would've been packed
I went to see the death metal band Deicide back in the late 90's and there were only around 10 people in attendance. Their frontman Glen Benton has always had a self depreciating sense of humor, so we had a "pizza party". He ordered two large pizzas from the venue kitchen, set them on the stage and took a 5 minute break while we all ate pizza lol. It was awesome!
That's pretty fu**in' cool actually. Never got into their music, but that's good shit.
Ha that's funny especially for a band that hates God
I saw Deicide in the late 90s in a similar venue. Prob about 50 people.
@@spinflux The night I went it was snowing rather heavily and the roads were getting bad, so I think a lot of people with tickets stayed home, since the ticket only cost $4. I really wish I had a video camera back then because it was hilarious hearing Glen talk about Deicide officially being the Satanic equivalent of an animatronic pizza parlor band lol, and it was well before FNAF.
That’s so cool dude! I love deicide!
They got the WROOOONG PROMOTER... Big Daddy Kane & Friends???? 🤦🏿♂ WTF was THAT About???
Sounding like a PBS fundraiser lol
Big Daddy Kane is awesome looked like he gave it 100% RIP Biz Markie
Washington probably performed so long because EPMD wasn’t even there yet
So He did y’all a favor and not leaving y’all sitting there
After hearing they had y’all move for them too, they weren’t even there yet
and then weren’t happy with the crowd once they were
Guru is thee only one I’ve ever had do that half arss performance and do few sec of few songs
It was Fight Night in Vegas and He half arssed it
Lost any respect for that turd
Yes I know he’s gone.
Kane is The Sheeit. His shows are Dope
Kane
De La
& The Likz are the best live
It’s like you guys had a private concert 🤩👍🔥.
Bright side of things 👍🏽✨✨
For real! Thats actually doper! Perspective is everything
Most of the time people like me just wanna stay home and away from people these days!!!
Very good comment 💯
Straight up lol
Yes ain't nothing like a peace of mind 💯💯
Totally agree. It's a crazy world we live in now and just seemed to get worse coming out of the pandemic
Poor promotion of tour.
It’s wild that older hip hop gets way more love overseas. America has such a throwaway culture.
America be spoiled they don’t appreciate
Always has since the 80s
Or artists can't accept that they're done. Why book this venue? They couldn't have possibly thought they were going to sell out?
On top of it the sound is completely amateur and sounds AWFUL!
Not really. Older rap doesn't get promoted. There isn't old-school rap stations like the rock ones.
I live by LA and I never knew this show was going on. Whatever the promotion was didn't reach very far. This is legit the first time I've heard of it
I’m here in Long Island and every time these concerts are here. They are packed out.
This is why the old skoll artists tour overseas a lot. They can sell out big venues still.
Once you're a star in Europe, you're a star forever there.
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Facts...I saw a Vid Pop up showing 2 members of Public Announcement(R Kelly) Performing on what looked like the back of a Meat Truck in a Back Yard.... Shit was crazy
The promoter was lacking and he took a L but good thing is he didn’t cancel the show
Right!
For real anyone at this show was the luckiest audiences MICHEL'LE TOO
100%
Probably thought it’d be easy money. If they wanted to do lazy “natural” promo, they should’ve switched to a club instead of a theater
But not a BIG L. Casualty of a dice game.
Back in early 2000s Public Enemy passed through town at a modest sized concert venue. Maybe 1000 capacity. They sold about 40 tix and cancelled the show. A local promoter found out and asked em to play a club. They agreed and played this tiny club with a band and it was an amazingly energetic show.
Yes I think most venues want at least 65/70% of the tickets sold before hand for it not to be canceled
@@jayman3915 probably a venue by venue basis. Clearly this place didnt have that policy. These big tours that are cancelling this past year are a big eye opener and probably do have a policy like that. Major disconnect between online popularity and live nation/Ticketmaster greed.
I’ve seen them twice. London and Cambridge. They sell out in the U.K. and it’s mostly middle class white people. 😂
I saw Public Enemy at the Santa Monica Civic Auditorium back in the day. A bunch of gangsters from South Central showed up to the show, and they were pounding on people in the audience. At one point it got so bad, Chuck D stopped performing to try to get them to stop, and you could still hear his vocals playing in the background.
@@imagesinla8575Lol damn. I saw them at Pinks Garage in 1990, it was cool to see them but the venue was like a corrugated metal garage and the sound was horrible. But what the hell, tix were less than $20 back then
First off, props to them and the promoters for not cancelling. Not only that but, looks like all the performers gave a good show. Nobody goin through the motions really.
And finally… what a beautiful theater!
These artists are legendary. The issue is how it was or wasn’t promoted, a different venue might have been a factor as well.
“ Big Daddy Kane & friends” lol. The disrespect to EPMD
@@JayWerx There's no disrespect
IT'S BUSINESS and nobody on that bill is complaining.
Saaaaaaadddddd
I know, why not advertise all artists?
@@Mr.CireSoprano -- It's only those who have no familiarity with, knowledge of,
or respect for the icons and legends of Hip-Hop & R&B who are not complaining.
@@DLCOrganization I don't understand what you mean...
Show me where there was any disrespect.. Please enlighten me.
That's why these Legends come to the UK. We show them more respect than their own. Smh
Yep😢
How is going to a concert a sign of respect?
No one at the concert is a sign of bad marketing & promotion.
Prophets are respected more when away
Sounds like the promotion for this event was poor.
@@imayeseekayExcatly and today these promotors are only promoting shit hop. These old school rappers had skills and meaningful music.
It was dope that Big Daddy Kane brought a whole band!!!
Too bad none of them got paid.
@@richevans609 😂😂😂 That's what I was thinking!!
@@richevans609not even a six pack smh
Great review! Agreed, it’s all about promotion. Times are changing w Pop music, but EPMD and Kane will always have my respect and gratitude for inspiring me since the 80s. ‘So what you sayin” on repeat in my spirit. I saw Kane on my corner in Chicago like 88’, he was so chill and kind, zero half steppin’ 🙏
I enjoyed all of these acts growing up. Great coverage of the show. I enjoyed your commentary as well. I’m sure they’ll sell out more on the East Coast. Kudos to them for continuing the show though.
I'm sure the show had very little marketing aside from Spotify. Four very fabulous acts that you got to see for practically nothing and up close. I'm very jealous. Excellent review as always Kurt.
EPMD If You Tired Then Go Take A Nap ! Over 50's Crowd Took It Serious !
😂😂😂
You gots to chill!
Lol good one, I was thinking the same im 50 plus and not really trying to go to a cincert anymore I still check for my favorite old school MCs for new music or shows just to see if they're active
A lot of music festivals I’ve been to in past few years I see a HUGE amount of 50+ year olds. Depends on who’s playing etc. funny thing is 90’s acts (especially hip hop) has little interest and usually doesn’t garner a big crowd unless their’s other acts considered pioneering or other genres that have a bigger following.
Lol
Nothing strange about the event at all. It's common in the hip-hop genre. Money, promotion, advertising and ticket sales will drop as rappers age. Some artists who were selling out NBA arenas 20 years ago are now performing at the State Fair. That's just how the business goes.
That is so true. Soul/ funk bands from the 1980’s were going through the same thing during the height of HipHop era in the late 1980’s. I’m no fan of the HipHop generation but it is kinda sad to see how ALL THESE ARTISTS used to fill up stadiums all over the U.S. at the height of their popularity and as the music scene changes & are no longer making hits anymore, their stars begin to fade & life starts changing drastically for most of them. That’s when we begin to see all these soul/ funk / hiphop artists start performing at little venues, casinos & at State Fairs, a long way from being the headliner at stadiums but this is the reality of the music industry & all these artists know “it is what it is” cause their bills still need to be paid……
@@robertjaime6808they were getting paid in Europe still
Rock and reggae have fans for life!!
Unfortunately.
Well, a few years ago it seemed to me like old school shows were raking in the money. At least with black middle class areas. But in the last few years, I understand why people can't afford shows
An amazing effort for the performers. Thank you for still bringing the energy
Enjoyed your concert review! Always feel bad for the performers, at sparsely attended shows.
Nobody In There 50's Likes Big Crowds So It Was A Win Win !
or having to stand during the whole show
@@lilpoindexterFacts I'm in my 40's but I have a messed up back. No artist would get me to put myself through that no matter which legend they put on stage.
in there 💀
Vault 350 long Beach,shit small crowd! Cracking! Intermission: dance floor 😂 like a house party EVERYONE dancing, white,blacks ,
Gays.bumping😂
@@andregoodwin890oh that spot still open. Krs has footage on UA-cam from a show he did there years ago. Had to be ‘12. Crowd was live.
Heck yeah! That would have been fun with such a small crowd. EPMD and Big Daddy Kane, Legends!!
That concert would have been off the chain for me😅❤
Totally Agree , No Knuckleheads ruining it for everyone.
Keith Washington at a rap show... kinda strange. I mean,Michel'le gets a pass because of her association with NWA.
😂🤣
They could have added Milli Vanilli while they're at it.
@@Essays4College That's almost possible... Being that Rob passed away,They could get Fab and the "actual" singers of Milli Vanilli and repackage the group using the name.Old Groups do it all the time, depending on who has the trademark.
Keith has one good song at best
@@djkingarthur1079 I just know "Kissing You"...I can't name any other songs
Awesome that you shared these legend artists with your son. This was poorly promoted, but what professionals to go on with the show! I've seen this happen in the middle city venues, we're between San Francisco and LA.
This is incredible! Great video. Big Daddy Kane and EPMD - surprised it wasn’t well attended.
A bummer regarding the turnout and promotion for these Legends in Concert. But VERY good to hear the positive review and seeing that you and your son had a good time.....
Keith Washington's "Kissing You" is a favorite. Rather Odd mix up. All smashing artists though. 🦾🦍🫡
Yeah I'm not a full on Keith Washington fan but there are some songs that I like but yeah " kissing you " is one of my main favorite jam
@@alliwishis_2 😅 #Same
Yep
Classic Artist
@@alliwishis_2 always gets the ladies in the mood
Wow, a private concert, that's pretty cool!
How many people will want to see 2014's top rappers 40 years from now? It says something that Big Daddy Kane still has a dedicated fan base.
FR I don’t see people remembering much about Post Malone and Soulja Boy😂
@@MechMike-gx1xtThat’s because unlike BDK, EPMD et al. Malone is a no-talent gimmick and Soulja is avg at best.
@@daniellemonroe4347Soulja isn't even average, to even suggest that is a laugh. I knew 6th graders in the 90s in New York that would crush him, and that's no hyperbole.
she sang “something in my heart” that’s my favorite song of hers.
I went to a "the game"concert and it was so few people we all got to get up on stage and jam with him. And this was at the height of his popularity in mid-2000s
Wow that's crazy
Wow thats crazy.....
lol maybe 50 Cent sabotaged the promotion? jk
XD I JUST SAW A ROCK BAND 3 WEEKS AGO FROM THE 80S THAT HAD SEATTLE SEAHAWKS COLISEUM PACKED.
@shack8110 Ummm, WTHell are you talking about?? (coliseum)😂🤷♂️🤦♂️
Emptiest concert I've been to has to be The Roots at Villanova in Spring of 1997. I was attending Valley Forge Military College. I went with 3 classmates. There were fewer than 20 people in that room!!! The Roots were already big at the time, so it was a huge surprise that they were performing for a empty room for free! Was a great night!
Truth be told, I’m sure they appreciate the ones that came out. Yes, it can be very discouraging in a crowd of less than 20, but I’m sure they appreciate that small crowd.
They were rockin' out, as always! The frat boys and girls were just talking amongst themselves. Felt like a private show. I kept thinking those students didn't even realize what they were listening to.
@@Nader_61 I can’t stand frat kids, college kids at that 😂🤦🏽♂️ and I’m only 31 🙄 ONYX was just in a sold-out venue in St. Petersburg in the middle of a war 😳 you know how crazy that is?? 😂
@Zambineaux305 what shocking is that the know who Onyx is in St. Petersburg!
@@Nader_61 Onyx is big in Europe
There were a similar situation in my hometown of Rochester, New York. The show was called the Original Kings of Hip-Hop; The sugarhill gang, UTFO, Kurtis Blow & break dancers, Coolio and hosted by Busy Bee. Sadly a quarter of the audience showed up. It's a sad reminder that this generation as well as my generation (I'm 50 plus) either are too busy or don't care. Dang!
Funny u say that. I took my nephews to a random minor league baseball game in Clearwater one nite. Has no idea it was a hip hop themed thing. Anyways they had a small stage set up by the bleachers and after the game Slick Rick performed followed by Coolio. There was maybe 50/100 people tops. I was giddy to see Slick Rick who I think is an underrated top ten MC of all time but it was also kinda sad. Like I feel like an amateur slam poetry nite at the local coffee shop would draw a bigger crowd. First and likely only time I’ll ever be in the front row of a concert I loved and didn’t pay a dime
The young ones aren't coming out to show support but they're quick to sample the music of legends
@@DarknessFalls29the young ones lol sample, not even 5% of people are out to be rappers or make music. You're delusional
@IsaiahSays-tw4th Reading and compression is fundamental; something you may want to work on. 🙄
It’s the gender of hip hop. Classic rock acts and 90’s rock groups are selling out huge arenas and stadiums. etc.
Hip-hop is trend culture. No one wants to hear someone playing backing tracks that were already samples of 80’s music when it was popular in the 90s. . 😮😂😅
Hopefully their next shows are well promoted and the crowd turns out. Thanks for highlighting these legends.
It's unfortunate but I will be the one to say it, many Black Americans in their 20's and 30's do not respect the music made by older artists.
And that’s why the legacy of the music will die pretty soon. So much for the culture, right?
It's just not THEIR generation of music. Back in the 90s, I wouldn't have wanted to sit through a concert with music from the 50s. It wasn't about "not respecting the music". It was simply music had changed from the 50s to the 90s--just as it changed from the 90s to the 20s.
@@lql1094 Im gen x and though I didn't sit through concerts of 60's artists I went through my their record collection and listened..that's what molded my taste in music thats where I discovered Otis Redding, The Ohio Players and that goes for many Gen X and older because our parent's music became the foundation for hip hop.
"Artists"... OK.
I’m 50 & my 19 year old Daughters love the late 80s/90s hip hop… since I’ve been playing my records for them since their birth! The love seeing DJ’s/Turntablist too! Unfortunately, they do like a lot of todays rap generation which I simply can’t listen too! I still have hundreds of WORD UP magazines, clothing, mix tapes & over 15k records I’ve been collecting since I was 8 years old! I miss the old dayz!!!
You're lying like hell
Get with the times grandpa
@@DUNGSTA Oh hell no! "The times" lmao! 🤣 He preserved some of the best of Rap/r&b history! And then taught the love to his daughters who live in "the times" of today. And I guarantee they LOVE him for it! We're all blessed for him and what he's done. ❤ Don't be rude and disrespectful. Your day will come when you'll remember the music of your "times" and hopefully you will have saved something for your kids too!
Do you share your stuff anywhere? Like on Facebook or here on UA-cam? I was born in 82, so the 80's/90's are my ❤ too! It sounds like you have a lot to share! 😊
@@roxannerodriguez7075Very well stated!!
Well let's be real the fans that came up with them are now grandparents and busy adults. We have supported these artists since way back. They have been living good from the money we have put in their pockets. Most of us are still out here struggling to get the bills paid and don't have time to be at every show these guys want to perform at..
Most people can only afford a couple of concerts per year now. They probably ain't gonna pick 90s nostalgia shows.
I wouldnt go if it was a free concert. I had all the epmd cassettes too. Just dont want to see some has beens shitting on thier legacy all for the money and to feel cool again.
@@Outtatime247 Has beens? Nah man. LEGENDS.
Oh you think the fans that fill stadiums for the rolling stones aren't grandparents and busy adults? It's just HIPHOP that does this although these legends still get love in Europe.
@@deanivan3951those fans are Great Great Grandparents!
That sucks because Big Daddy Kane is one of the best live performers in Hip Hop. The issue with attendance is a number of reasons. The promoter didn't do their job, 40-70 year old live on Facebook, so you gotta advertise on that platform that has become old people's social life. It's harder to get people in their late 40's and 50's out of the house especially on a work night. Also Hip Hop shows are notorious for starting late and going late into the morning. Their fanbase needs to take care of kids and work careers in the morning, so they aren't trying to be up all night. Also EPMD and Big Daddy Kane were East Coast acts, there was a time in Hip-Hop were lines were drawn and alot of Old Heads still don't fuck with artists from the opposite coast. Another thing is that unfortunately Hip-Hop is a genre where much of the youth doesn't respect or like what came before them, so you can't expect youngin to show up to an old school concert. Also the old school artists need to accept that they aren't as popular as they once were. Just because you sold out a venue in 1988, does it mean that you can sell out the same venue in 2024. Don't book a double level theater or arena, book a smaller venue like a concert hall, jazz or blues bar, or dance club. Pack a compact space with a small, but devoted fanbase and make it feel special and intimate for them.
This 👍
Thankfully, I'm a youthful 51 because some of what you said doesn't apply to me. I agree, though
You should have became a promoter .
Kids love old school hip hop, just not enough to go buy tickets. Plus rap concerts are having trouble selling in general
They should have definitely gone with a smaller venue, but who knows, it might have been MORE expensive to book a SMALLER place.
I wish I could have gone to this concert. Michele STILL sounds good!!!
Inflation and the state of the economy is the reason. Plenty people still love these artist and would love to see them perform. When all else fails as the promoter you have to just give tickets away to get people in the building. 😎🎭✌️
Excuses because they pack out concerts of people that they want to see
Nah people still going out to have a good time and concerts, sporting events, trade shows and conferences still sell out. And they cost way more than $34 for two tickets.
Some of these Conferences/conventions like Comic Con cost well over $1000 and people line up in droves to attend
@@truthiscensoredyeah but at least trade shows and conferences are business sponsored
The economy is the reason why the show was empty??😅. Dude said the tix were $18!!
When did @stevenotero2627 start speaking for plenty of people, if folks wanted to see it they would of done as such. Speak for yourself you mop
An issue might have been promotion. I'm a big Big Daddy and EPMD fan from way back, I live in LA like 20 minutes from the Wiltern, and this video is the first I'm hearing that this show existed
Same here...Promotion was definitely lack luster to say the least.
Likewise....i would have gone to this show as well...80s hip hop was REAL hip hop...LL COOL J,
There are tons of terrible promoters out there and especially in LA, no one is going to shows anymore like we did ten years ago. Nightlife in LA is terrible now and (we live down the street). Covid and the hit on the economy and Social Media have killed the party scene. I don't know how the promoter went on with the show knowing how few tickets were sold. Michel'le has always been all over the place but she's still A plus with her voice.
it's the internet/social media. shit drowned n buried the communications that mattered.
I almost agree with you, but somebody who has a great strategy to have a big concert play to a sold out crowd is none other than Billy Joel. He hasn’t put out new music in decades, and he relegates himself to a decent size venue, makes sure he is appropriately promoted, and keeps his core fan base.
sounds strange but good. I would have loved a small venue concert, it seems no one there was annoying or out of control would have been a great date night concert for a more mature laidback crowd, with pick-your-own seating. You probably won't find nothing like it again, good find.
These dudes deserve way more, there Will be a time when people wish they were born to have a chance to watch those Legends live
I would of loved to go to that show. EPMD is still my favorite group.
Big same fam. Big same.
I love all the 80s artists that bring me back to a much simpler time in life ....wish I was there ... Maybe next time. Thanks for sharing!
Damn. They coulda performed in my living room
Wish I knew about it... Definitely subscribing cool story and footage thx
Thanks for the review. I would have been honored to attend. xoxo
Hip hop is a young man's genre for the performers. It's sad how fans stop supporting. Especially considering rock legends still sell out shows despite being half dead. You hear a lot about the culture in hip hop but that culture doesn't pay proper respect to its pioneers.
Well said.
That’s not a fair statement. First off HipHop itself just turned 50, rock has been around since the 50’s. Rock started in an era when the only way you could listen to an artist or band was over radio or records. So it made perfect sense for fans of rock to value shows and concerts,because this was usually the only way to actually view, support and interact with an artist or band. Nowadays it’s way different we have cable tv and the internet and both played major parts in hiphop culture. We could just turn on MTV and BET in the 90’s and log on to any social media nowadays. We can @ our favorite artist anytime we want, we don’t have to pay of an overpriced ticket stand in line and hold a sign up for 3hrs to get our favorite artists attention. We don’t see the same value in concerts and shows, most are overpriced, overhyped, and we usually leave feeling ripped off at the end. We also realize most our favorite artist have little control over their shows and tours, so we are not supporting them as much as we are supporting live nation, promoters, and ticket master.
@@andrejohnson7737 Hip Hop is undoubtedly king in the US and has been for years. Right now the biggest hip hop show is "It's All a Blur Tour" featuring Drake and and 21 Savage. Granted, Drake has been relevant for 10 years now, but do you see him doing arena shows in another 10 years? Will Lil Wayne be doing arena shows in 10 years?
Nah most of the billion fools listening to the garbage made by "young men" (you forgot women) won't even listen to music in a few years.
Not the case, its the promoting for the show, that's the real issue.
I've been to a few gigs like this, usually the first thing the bands say is to tell everyone in the venue to come to the front of the venue. It's only way to generate any atmosphere.
And then he felt bad because he didn't pay for the seats and didn't want to take advantage of the situation. They told everyone to move up front, so why should he feel bad about that?
Thats a dope line up, could be people moving out of Cali to. I would of been there for sure.
300,000 people out of 33 million is hardly a dent in the population man.
Keith Washington is cool I met him in person back in the 80's in Washington DC concert. He has an amazing voice and he came down from the stage and shook hands with the fans...yes l was one of them.
I saw Public Enemy at The Big E in.l Springfield Mass last night. Chuck D and Flavor Flav are still kicking it with a solid group of guys backing them!
I went to a concert maybe 10-11years ago. LL Cool J, PE, Cube, & De La Soul. Was kinda the same thing. Maybe 100 ppl max. No merchandise either. All 4 put on an amazing show! Just sticks out to me that that many legends ppl choose not to see. Reasonable tic prices. These are ppl who layed the foundation of rap music.
That's crazy! I remember seeing public enemy headlining in the arena during the fear of a black planet tour
That's a damn good lineup! It's sad that these legends don't get the respect and recognition that they've earned from their contributions to Hip Hop
I hate 2 hear that , UNfortunately Rap Music/ Hip Hop from an Historic perspective is the Walking Dead in today's world. That's why so many mindless youth / Zombies attend all the WACK modern day concerts instead of legendary creative REAL artist.
Sign of the times.
Right but let them announce that Drake or Uzi are doing shows, and they sell out football stadiums 🤦🏽♂️
I’m SHOCKED that they still went forward with this despite such low ticket sales, I’m not saying every seat has to be sold for a concert to go through but to me it has to be at least 60% as an artist, just for my pride!
Cannot break their signed contracts or they could be sued
You gotta to rock it regardless if its 3 thousand people are 3 people in the crowd
I’ve played shows for just the sound man.
As an artist, the show must go on.
You’d think the promoters would at least scramble to switch the venue to a smaller/mid-sized club when they realized their lazy promotion strategy wasn’t going to fill out a theater
I'm here in North Carolina and in 2013 Chrisette Michele and Keisha Cole were supposed to perform at a venue here. People were standing in line waiting only to hear that Chrisette Michele cancelled the show because *it wasn't a big enough venue for her." Smh
People will pay 100's of dollars to see all these new garbage rappers, but not to see these hip-hop legends, make it make sense, Kurt
I saw Salt n Pepa live nine years ago. I even got to go up on stage with them, too.
Nah bro no one is even going out to see any of them. Even today's popular rappers struggle to sell tickets. Look it up, they're performing to empty venues also. No one is really consuming music the way we used to. Yeah people are listening to these artists but no one is going out to see them. It's just not worth it.
@@blade_warrior_blue Saw BDK last year with Masta Ace in support. 2000 ticket sell out. Saw De La Soul, The Roots ANd The Pahrcyde last month. Approcimately 5000 sell out crowd. People still go.
Truth be told, they had their day. These old school acts need to include some current acts - or an act, that they like.
The messed up with the two opening acts. Concertgoers in LA know what's up. They're not gonna sit through an hours-long show with half the acts being filler. At least not in this economy.
I give a lot of credit to all entertainers. It takes so much to put yourselves out there. Especially to those that are not on their 20s. It takes so much energy. I could never ever do what they do!!
As a rock and metal fan, it’s always been fascinating to me how legacy hip hop acts are almost forgotten about. In our scene legacy bands are still headlining festivals and stadiums and dominating radio play. It’s only recently that radio and bookers are starting to push new up and coming acts.
Big Daddy Kane and EPMD are Legends! I live 45-mins away, and I would have definitely went had I known.
The fact that you hadn't heard about it says a lot about the probable lack of promition. As does the fact you said you would have gone had you known.
I went to Jay Z’s Blueprint tour in 2001 at the Fillmore in San Francisco. The floor was full of people but there were literally 6 people in the balcony. The people I was with and another group of 3 people. I was shocked Jay had such few fans show up for a concert. It was a great show, just surprising.
😅😅😅😅one time I bet he won’t say numbers never lie!
The other thing is that people just don’t have $$ for that stuff nowadays. Especially if you live in LA. I don’t know how families survive there.
We’re holding our own! ❤
We have JOBS…. That’s how!
yup, I know several people making 100k and they are basically check to check in LA now. These aren't even people will small kids.
@@cyorkgo do you have small kids?
To live and die in L.A, it's the place to be. You've got to be there to know it, so blah blah blah whatever
I tell the kids in my family that there is nothing like true live music. I saw so many great concerts I.e. public enemy, the first bad boy tour, and to this day I remember how much fun we had.
Actually to me this sounds like a perfect concert. The older I get, the less I care about having big crowds. I just want to go see the artists I like put on good show! And my experience has told me, more times than not, the smaller more intimate concerts are actually more memorable and fun. I have a good dozen concerts off memory that were small venues, for legends I like. And nearly every time, I had an absolutely killer time.
Also as a music artist myself, I think I have had some of my most fun shows in front of 20-30 people. Verses 300-400. The small shows you can really get the audience to participate. Which makes the energy that much better.
The bigger venues can be good too. But you have to deal with thousands of people. And many times that means drunk, obnoxious people. So to me, I will take the small shows over the big ones every day of the week.
More people on stage than in the audience.
😂😂
Yeah, how can they afford to pay their bandmembers when hardly no one shows up
@@james7275ablethat’s what crossed my mind too.
Lol now that hurts.
I live in Glasgow, Scotland. One time Fishbone came here and there was ZERO promotion for the show and hardly anyone showed up. I missed it too. Found out about it the next day on social media.
When I was living in Los Angeles in 1980s fishbone was one of my favorite bands back that time When did they show up in Glasgow ??
@@alliwishis_2 Pretty sure the show was back in 2018. I don't think they've been back since.
In 2012, I saw them perform in a small venue in Las Vegas. Less than twenty people were there. It was a great show and I had a blast. Tickets were less than thirty dollars.
Week before, they had a show in Los Angeles for seventy to a hundred dollars a ticket. Talk about location makes the price.
@ahanna76
1). When was this ??
2). Yea Los Angeles is home turf for them and I know they are pretty well known in that area SOO.. like you said earlier and just as well..
@Delboy219
They were most likely probably upset that nobody showed and it took a lot of effort to get over there and another thing they probably don't know their fan base over there because of lousy promotion
ALSO.. I have to say, I don't know about the band members but the name and the brand of Fishbone has been around for 40 years so.. I don't know..
I keep telling y'all the record industry has turned off the consumer. too much sex too much violence and too much garbage product has just turned off the consumer to anything having to do with music from The Hip Hop era. this is the sad truth
Music in general. Except for music that appeals to women (Swift). Civilization is on the decline. Music is not that important. Music is just music. You can't live in it or eat it. Music is important in a society that is on the upswing and basics are covered. That's not this one (anymore).
@@sg137iu89absolutely !! They’ve destroyed it ! Only music that would make money during this time of societal decline would be revolutionary music music with a cause music that reflects the and goes against counter culture which is now the main culture and music that attacks criminal political agendas which they will never let that type of music see the light of day !
Well also hip hop tends to not age well in general I mean Big Daddy Kane lol
@@TheRealNewBlackMusic you tube keeps deleting my comment because it’s politically charged against the system and that’s how music should be !!!!!!! Make music that reflects the world climate in a serious way ! Fight the system
@@aunch3 ouch! :(
Wow I would have loved to come to this show. I have always been a. Huge fan of Big Daddy Kane. All of the artist are amazing. Sorry to hear about the crowd didn’t sell out cause these are real artist
Oh big daddy looked so good!!! Thank you for this dude and Michelle was fabulous 🎉
Sit back relax... You gots to Chill!
And if ya tired, then go take a nap...
😎
The following weekend on August 3rd my Sorority had a surprise performance from Big Daddy Kane for our Hip Hop Gala. It was hosted by MC Lyte!
About 10 years ago a local dive bar had a sign promoting a DMX show. There were probably 35 people in attendance . I went and it was kinds sad.
IKR. X was doing arenas in his heyday.
@@jayman3915I seen a show where it was a whole sea of people at a DMX concert. Rip X 🌹
@curlypewbes its crazy you say that. I went to the DMX/Cash Money tour in Feb 2000, when DMX came out the crowd went CRAZY, to this day thats the loudest I’ve ever heard a crowd roar in my life!!
@@martinezabel3332 did he come out in the dog cage
@@jayman3915 Yup, the dog cage hanging on a wire that took him to the stage.
Damn. That lineup was a dream. I wish it was near me on the East Coast.
First time I saw your show, GREAT OPENING Titles!!!
Kurt, I was at work listening to this and I laughed so hard. Then, my next thought was I wish, I would have known about this an entire row to myself. Priceless.
Salute to you for this. I'm subbed.
Thank you for the sub!
Same
Same
@@boomboxbreezy Thank you!
Great review!!!🙏🏽
There was more people (and merch) at the This Day Forward 21 year reunion show in Philadelphia then this. Truly a strange time we find ourselves in.
Madness! I live 2 miles from the Wiltern and absolutely would’ve gathered some friends and attended this concert had I known it even existed! Who the hell promoted - rather, failed to promote - this show?!
They should have put Rodney O and Joe Cooley or King Tee on the bill instead of the R and B acts .
Yeah they were not a fit for this show.
Exactly, tge promoter goofed
Or alcoholics or Jurassic 5
I hope they've been able to capitalize on the recent notoriety of everlastin bass being sampled recently
The Show Must Go On !
Promoters overplayed their hand - should have booked a much smaller venue. The Fonda or even The Belasco would have been better.
They could’ve did the Saban or The Palladium
@@uniqueorganicshaircare9880 yup. They could have done The El Rey, too.
@@uniqueorganicshaircare9880 Yes The Palladium/Hollywood is a good spot.
I would've totally went to see them. Especially for a good price. To bad it was empty. My daughter and i love you're channel. We're from San Francisco. Big trouble in little China post was excellent. I've seen others but you had more insight with the LA locations
The way I look at it - The 80's and 90's are special and they are preserved today in their rareness. The modern world moves fast but these moments in time last forever for whoever wishes to experience.
I can say that you are correct, immediately I thought there was a promotion prob but as you began to talk more and I just sort of watched it, I’d like to throw out a few more possibilities for the show lacking in support. I toured as a musician (bass player) w/ a lot of different artists for about 15 yrs so I’ve seen a lot of situations. 1. Although it looked like a promotion problem, it could’ve also been a $ prob. Sometimes companies are paid to do marketing. Can be international, national, or local. So something may have happened there whether there was a pay issue or a dispute over how many shows to be promoted. Or 2. This was a late added date to fulfill a contract (as in obligation for a certain # of shows). It looks like a case where the promoter wasn’t going to make any money so they did a “let’s just book it and see what happens”. The fact that there was no merch being sold by anyone says that this was very last minute and more obligatory than anything else. I’ve done shows w/ artists where management was literally outside handing out free tix asking people to come just to build a crowd. One other thing is, the situation w/ someone mistaking Darius McCrary’s for Malcolm J Warner is REAL😂. Malcolm used to do (he may still do it) spoken word-animated poems with a band behind him. I actually played bass with him for a while when I was still in cali. He always said that people regularly confused them with one another. They were actually good friends too btw (at least back then)
Word...I thought that mix up with Malcolm and Darius was phucking hilarious! 😂
Thanks for sharing. 💯
We have old school concerts like this in Atlanta a lot. They are normally free or very inexpensive, and well attended. Kind of a weird lineup with two R&B artists and two Hip-Hop artists. Nevertheless, I would have been at this show. Glad you enjoyed yourself
That’s truly shocking. I remember all of these bands even Keith Washington and really would’ve thought at least a place would be a3 to half full wow that’s depressing for them indeed thanks bro for shining the light on this. This is really mind blowing especially those amazing prices.
I saw EPMD in 1988 at the Celebrity Theater in Anaheim with Ice-T, Stetsasonic and Public Enemy - for $17.00. I was a young 17 year old and in utter awe of what I witnessed. As we sit here in 2024, dudes like Kane and EPMD just don't resonate with people much anymore--which bums me out. The golden age of Rap is now the same as the golden age of Rock and Roll. The culture which laid the groundwork barely gets the recognition beyond what you might hear on LL's Rock the Bells radio on Sirius.
This brought back memories, fam..🫡💯 Kudos for the posting still✨️
Y’all ever seen that movie Janky Promoters ?
This the real life version.
That's EXACTLY what I was thinking
EPMD... strictly snappin necks, You a customer, you gots to chill. Man they were 🔥
Cali was reppin’ EPMD from the jump. This has to be a promotional issue.
I got you're a customer EP on vinyl all time banger
@@UziMusic remember when Blitz robbed them in Juice.
@@butwhydoe4020 They stole the record right? haha
@@UziMusic EPMD was at the diner and Blitz was getting ready to rob them when Q came in to use the phone. Then he went out and told the crew and Bishop wanted to join in on the robbery, Pac.
Funny saying he's sleepy at midnight. If I was a 55 year old rapper I'd probably tell them to start the show an hour earlier just for that reason lol
I didn't hear a damn thang about it and I live here
I remember at one point New Kids on the Block couldn’t even get a crowd to come see them at my local mall in the early 2000’s. Then suddenly they became trendy again and were selling out concerts. So yeah, you can really see the difference that good promoter can make.