ALL THE WRONG CHOICES! Can We Beat Hades With This BAD BUILD? | Hades

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  • @pub097
    @pub097 Рік тому +244

    Cursed run idea: listen only to chat

  • @PopeGoliath
    @PopeGoliath Рік тому +50

    Interesting how "Make Worst Choices" isn't the same as "Pick Worst Door". There were a couple rooms where both a good run and a bad run make the same door choice, simply because of the further options inside.

  • @herbertkraft7379
    @herbertkraft7379 Рік тому +13

    I love how Chaos just was like "this is a cast build now"

  • @thornrosealex
    @thornrosealex Рік тому +14

    If you ever have a guest on the show, you could have them adversarially make all your choices, and that'd allow for more complicated stuff like fated authority usage and pact setup (for higher heats). Could be fun!

    • @descendency
      @descendency Рік тому

      could just use a quick poll in twitch chat for that.

  • @Denjaminable
    @Denjaminable Рік тому +21

    I love how big brain you have to be.... to play as bad as me 😂

  • @kemori_
    @kemori_ Рік тому +43

    honestly this was pretty funny, i'd like to see more of these until you can actually win one LOL

    • @descendency
      @descendency Рік тому +5

      winning one of these is basically impossible. he didn't have enough damage, defense, or health to get out of Elysium. it would take a truly random amount of luck to get enough only good option boons. I honestly think it would be easier to win a random choice run (using a random number generator) than a worst choice run.

  • @Josh-qs1rl
    @Josh-qs1rl Рік тому +41

    For all the hours in this game you sure made some bad choices this run.

  • @stevenneiman1554
    @stevenneiman1554 Рік тому +2

    Rules as I would have done them:
    - Fated Persuasion but only to use 1 roll if all your options are good for a pick one
    - When purchases are available, you can buy as many things as you want (money permitting), but you must start with the worst deal. Goes for both the well and shop. No spending persuasion. Same for purging pools, you can choose how many boons to purge but must start with the best.
    - If having Persuasion to be sure of no good boons is too hard, you could throw in some number of "cheats" where you can pick what you actually want. Probably just one or two
    Choices I would have made:
    For the first hammer I would take world splitter and then refuse to take a multiplicative attack boon. Maybe even switch to Dionysus' keepsake to guarantee drunken strike.
    For the first Artemis I would have gone with pressure points. It's only a 6% effective improvement as long as you don't take anything to reward you for critting.
    Not choices, but commentary
    - I find it funny how you complained about how bad a room was when flamewheels are like the one challenge you're decently equipped for.
    - Butterfly ball would be hellish with this build. It's like the four kings from dark souls, where low DPS is way harsher than it should be because without damage the fight gets worse on a time-based schedule instead of by HP.
    - I find it hilariously fitting how proud of himself Theseus is for winning a fight against someone who spent the whole run setting himself up to lose.

  • @Andytron5000
    @Andytron5000 Рік тому +6

    A bad choices run feels just like when I was learning to play.

  • @pranshusrivastava8353
    @pranshusrivastava8353 Рік тому +4

    What about doing a "suboptimal" choice run? You pick any option that you don't consider to be the best in that choice, for example taking either flourish OR flood shot because splash dash was the best. This way it'd be an easier run that can be done on higher heat and still be pretty fun, maybe?

  • @crosseyeddemon9310
    @crosseyeddemon9310 Рік тому +2

    What's funny is that even with no heat you died in exactly the same place lmao better luck next time Dan

  • @Rakonn24
    @Rakonn24 Рік тому +1

    Skipping the chaos fish literally broke me.

  • @BluethunderNo1
    @BluethunderNo1 Рік тому +10

    How about a slay the streamer like frostprimes slay the spire format where chat votes for your boonchoices and has to try to kill you but also make content
    That'd be lit!

    • @clorby22
      @clorby22 Рік тому

      That sounds so entertaining

  • @BrunoHenrique-gi1wd
    @BrunoHenrique-gi1wd Рік тому +1

    plays making every wrong choice possible, still gets out of asphodel in 10 minutes, just like me.
    feels bad man

  • @catalystxi5184
    @catalystxi5184 Рік тому +1

    This was far more entertaining than I expected it to be, haha.

  • @MrRaui
    @MrRaui Рік тому +2

    Do this run again, but with Talos aspect; your favorite.

  • @tgoncales
    @tgoncales Рік тому

    This was fun, but having most of the choices be around “what’s worse for me” takes some of what makes Hades cool, focusing instead only on gameplay. As an alternative, you could have a hard rule on worst choice only when given a boon or hammer option. Everything else you can then decide the best for you, for instance, picking a god instead of chaos because it would be less painful to you. This would also allow you to use the mirror and pact.

  • @Dhieen
    @Dhieen Рік тому

    It would be fun a mod where the doors are hidden all the time and the boons too

  • @clorby22
    @clorby22 Рік тому +2

    As someone who’s never played with stubborn defiance, I’m curious what the soldier in the [!] room of Elysium gives in replacement of Kiss of Styx? Can’t top up your lives if you have infinite right?

    • @bumble9511
      @bumble9511 Рік тому +8

      He makes your stubborn defiance restore more health each time

    • @clorby22
      @clorby22 Рік тому +1

      @@bumble9511 ahhh okay thank you!

  • @elchingon12346
    @elchingon12346 Рік тому

    I don’t know why I thought Haelian was bald?

  • @GiveMeHugsss
    @GiveMeHugsss Рік тому

    Wait can’t you turn off work orders? You should do that next time you attempt this

  • @FullSmile100
    @FullSmile100 Рік тому +4

    tfw this is how you play hades

  • @catalystxi5184
    @catalystxi5184 Рік тому

    I personally hate World Splitter just because of how it totally changes the flow of sword. I tend to rely on the special-dash-dash attack pattern and I feel like Splitter just makes things weird. But, I can see how if you adjusted your playstyle it might not be too bad.

  • @johnnymerchant
    @johnnymerchant Рік тому +1

    This is how I play real life

  • @Phnxkon
    @Phnxkon Рік тому

    Artemis dash is best dash. Big numbers make brain release happy juice

  • @firenter
    @firenter Рік тому

    This looks like one of my runs xD

  • @NxghtMar1sH
    @NxghtMar1sH Рік тому

    What... this is how I normally run

  • @l.n.3372
    @l.n.3372 Рік тому +1

    Considering how often you used special in this run, idk why the first hammer's "worst" offer was something to increase special range and damage tbh. I would think big chop was worst, since you mainly use dash strike attacks with sword.

    • @realtalk13
      @realtalk13 Рік тому +3

      He used the special a lot *because* he took that first hammer. He wasn't trying to throw the run, but win with the worst picks of what he is given, i.e. use what he is given to try to win. But for zag sword which buffs attack speed, I see why super nova would be < big chop

    • @l.n.3372
      @l.n.3372 Рік тому +1

      @@realtalk13
      From what I understand, the "big chop" would be separate from a dash strike, correct? Haelian primarily dash strikes with the sword. So the big chop is a drastically different play style than how he usually plays. That's why I'm surprised he doesn't consider it the worst hammer of those 3: because he prefers to dash strike.

    • @realtalk13
      @realtalk13 Рік тому +1

      @@l.n.3372 i mean, he also prefers to never cast if he doesn't have to and was casting all over the place because those were the boons he was given. even if big chop isn't his pref, the synergy with the zag sword atk speed increase would make it less bad than super nova which has 0 natural synergy with the aspect

    • @l.n.3372
      @l.n.3372 Рік тому +2

      @@realtalk13
      I suppose the sword itself makes the difference then. I typically use the Nemesis sword, so using special just seemed default to my mind. But you're probably right that maybe special isn't inherently what the Zag sword wants, so a special based hammer doesn't sync as well. Thanks for chatting!

  • @Shipwrck86
    @Shipwrck86 Рік тому +1

    Single dash gets you extra damage, sometimes damage is weak in runs and that extra always helps, you can always get an extra dash with a few rolls

    • @realtalk13
      @realtalk13 Рік тому +3

      there are sooo many ways to increase your damage in a run, but there's only 1 way to increase your dashes and you're not promised to get it.

    • @Shipwrck86
      @Shipwrck86 Рік тому

      @@realtalk13 dash once to dodge attack, why need more? You can also take hyper sprint to dash once but double distance

    • @realtalk13
      @realtalk13 Рік тому +2

      ​@@Shipwrck86 consistency. sure you can pefect dodge every attack, but you also don't have to if you get more dashes and can dash out of danger far easier/with more consistency with more dashes.
      the other choices aren't bad per se, but they're the lesser pick in most situations because they're too dependent on you getting other boons and using up your few rerolls to compensate for their limitations.banking your entire build on getting 1/2 specific boons from hermes is just not ideal when you can start the run with that advantage and easily pick up dmg boons from every other god

  • @bentrout6486
    @bentrout6486 Рік тому +2

    Is the infinite death defiance from a MOD?

    • @axllow3914
      @axllow3914 Рік тому +8

      Do you mean the Stubborn Defiance? It's just a power from the mirror, didn't you watch the intro?

    • @bentrout6486
      @bentrout6486 Рік тому

      I did. I’m just fairly new to the game still so I don’t know all of the ins and outs still.

    • @hash4badi
      @hash4badi Рік тому +13

      Stubborn Defiance is the alternate version of the regular three defiances and it gives you a 30% health death defiance every room

    • @axllow3914
      @axllow3914 Рік тому +7

      @@bentrout6486 Oh, then don't worry, you'll get it sooner or later. Not that good though.

    • @TurtleKnite
      @TurtleKnite Рік тому +6

      @@axllow3914 It's really good when you're first starting out and dying to just regular rooms. It's good for pushing deeper into the biomes and seeing what's ahead, getting practice against bosses etc.
      Definitely worse once you're good because once you're good you're really only gonna be dying to bosses most of the time, so it's better to have multiple stocks in 1 room than a more stocks across the whole game.

  • @marzmusic6455
    @marzmusic6455 9 місяців тому

    Damn that build sukkkkkkd

  • @alshamsi6951
    @alshamsi6951 Рік тому +2

    boy im the first one