@@adastra123 Catholics are so welcoming to new Catholics. I really haven't seen the same thing in Protestant videos on UA-cam. I think it's awesome that you are so supportive of new believers.
I was born and raised catholic. I did not understand any of it's teaching. I've rebelled as teenager and ultimately left as an adult. After my coversion, I started to read the Bible and learned protestant teaching from my brother, who also converted years earlier. Then I ended up in local evangelical church. It was a great experience... but then I've felt lonely. IKR? I'm extremely introverted and protestant social living did not work for me. But still, I've been reading Bible daily and consuming theology content a lot. This reasons, feeling lonely, being rejected by yet another girl, wanting to leave that church... seem stupid. But it led me to ask myself - what if I go back to the Catholic Church? And then it started... I believe the Holy Spirit took that single thought and did wonders. Couple days later I realized I believe in Mary and purgatory. It was childlike faith, but all that I needed to start my research. I went to my old parish, to come back through official channel. I've got my instructions. But I was stopped in that transition. All that loneliness, isolation and pain did catch up to me and I got stuck in my apartament for over a month, depressed to the core. I've lost myself and couldn't find a way back to Christ. So I did give my life to Mary, cause I was hopeless. And She led me back to Her Son, straight to the confession. Now I'm officially back to the Catholic Church and I've never been happier in my entire life! Not sure why I share it, but... this is my story. Written by God Almighty. Praise our Lord!
I don't know you from Adam so don't read into this too much, but purely from an outside observer perspective it seems like atleast possibly your conversion was attributable (or atleast a significant factor) to psychological upheaval i.e feelings of being lonely and rejecting from a woman (and under these circumstances you suddenly decided or considered to return back to Catholicism and had a sudden change of doctrinal beliefs). Maybe explore this and make sure your being guided by the Holy Spirit to return and not your emotions and psychological factors.
For me, as a cradle protestant I used to bash hard on Catholicism. With all the same old protestant objections. Never even bothered to research them, I ignorantly regurgitated them. It wasn't until I humbled myself and really wanted to seek the history of my faith all the way back to Jesus. I had no choice but to become Catholic. Because the more I dug the more I found protestants had been lying to me. Then I decided to start over throwing out all I heard from protestants. I started watching Catholics teach me about Catholicism. instead of protestants teaching me lies about Catholicism. That's when I found out that Catholicism is Holy, traditional, historical and Biblical. I am glad the Holy Spirit led me to Catholicism.
Just imagine if you finally started to listen to what Jewish scholars and historians have to say about their tradition and scriptures and language and history. You might even jettison the lies of all of Christendom.
Hope you didn't have to ditch Fundamentalism to convert. I didn't have to in 1988. If you had to, something has changed for the worse in what appeared to be the Catholic Church.
HA. People are leaving the catholic church like it's on fire. There is no "evangelization in". 330,000 little boys in France were raped by 3,000 catholic pedophile priests, and it barely made the news, because people EXPECT that from catholics. Jesus said child rape was unforgivable (Matt 18:6-14), and everyone involved will get eternal damnation. That means every catholic. Now you're going to lie about how "everyone else is running a child rape cult, too", and I will tell people how you're lying!
The "best" way to attract anyone to Catholicism is by being a good Catholic. It doesn't matter whether it's in your professional life, within your hobbies, in your community, or within your family; be a good Catholic. If you use your talents according to God's will, the world will see it.
@@_ready__ If they are asking the question, then you've succeeded in attracting them. Answering that question depends on where they are in their spiritual journey. If you have a particular person or a more specific set of facts, we can discuss this further.
@@_ready__ I'm sorry if my answer led to any confusion. I also thank you for your response, which helps to illustrate the point I was trying to make. Let's make an analogy to a more earthly question. Suppose someone asks me "How do I get to Times Square?" My answer would depend entirely on where they are. If they are just a few blocks away, I would give them walking directions. Farther away, I'd direct them to the subway. If we were in a subway station, I'd direct them to the train they need to take and recommend a stop where they should exit the train. If we're just outside the city, we might be talking about driving directions or a commuter train. If they are across the country, we would discuss plane travel. If they are in another country, we might have to discuss getting a visa. Similarly, my response to "How do I get to heaven?" depends on where they are now in their spiritual journey. My answer would be different for an observant Jew, a lapsed Catholic, a practicing Lutheran, a weak Atheist, or an impressionable young child.
@@_ready__ If a Bible-reading ex Catholic asked me "How do I get to heaven?" I'd take that as an invitation to a larger conversation. I'm assuming they know that I'm a Catholic and they may even know that I struggled with my faith as an adult. I'd probably open with, "What kind of answer are you expecting?"
My wife and I were invited one sunday by a couple of evangelical from my wife's family in law. Nice people, but totally brainswashed by their pastor. They were proud to show us on the internet their fantastic church whith fancy lights and big sound system. After they threw at my face some severe criticism towards the Catholic Church, they heard me speaking about my catholic faith . Then the lady said with astonishment : " Oh ,but you do have a real relationship with Jesus ! " Bonjour from France.
@@alexs.5107 En français je n'en connais pas. Je me fais des séances de visionnage sans sous-titres. Quand je suis concentré j'arrive un peu à suivre l'anglais.
En tout cas je n'ai pas encore vu de mouvement significatif de retour vers l'Eglise , de la part de protestants français. J'ai l'impression que le phénomène est purement américain.
As a protestant that is seriously looking into converting into Catholicism with questions, this is a great approach. Watching Trent's videos and the actions of Catholics in the public world as a force of good, the draw seems incredibly strong. Following this channel after that has led to further theological understanding.
People are almost always surprised to hear my interest in science when they know I'm also Catholic. They assume I blindly believe all the Church teaches without reading about why it teaches what it does. They are equally shocked when they realize the Church embraces science, has its own astronomers, pioneered the big bang theory, teaches that evolution is acceptable, and came up with the Gregorian Calendar.
@YAJUNYUAN I agree, the Catholic Church, as compared to other denominations, is much more ‘progressive’ today when it comes to physics and cosmology. And I find this rather puzzling given other (in my opinion) rather archaic teachings let’s say on demons and exorcism.
@@capecodder04 Of course creation and evolution can coexist, that's very simple to understand. Evolution doesn't imply that life evolved from nothingness. Personally I'm doubtful about evolution, but that's a different story.
In other words you like that the catholic church legitimizes anti biblical scientific lies about God's creation? Ok...... The word of God is not a priority for decision in becoming catholic very often.
100% agree. When I was an agnostic in college, I was drawn to philosophy and seeking the truth. But I was actually a mathematics major. I was blown away to see that all the brilliant mathematicians I was learning about (Descartes, Euler, Newton) all believed in God. This made me take more seriously my search for God and get me to jump off the fence of agnosticism.
Matt Maher was doing a mission at a CATHOLIC parish and a protestant couple was commenting that they were very surprised that Matt was at a Catholic church. I quietly giggled. In the middle of the "concert" there was Adoration and Matt's explanation before Adoration was beautiful.
It was precisely that multiple writers/intellectuals whose works I admired (Tolkien, Chesterton, Michael Ward, Malcolm Guite, and Holly Ordway specifically) "just so happened" to be Catholic that convinced me that I needed to take Catholicism more seriously. They weren't what ultimately convinced me of the Catholic faith, and my favorite Chesterton work is from his pre-Catholic years (Orthodoxy), but that these minds were convinced the Church is THE Church meant I couldn't just dismiss it.
6 years ago I had read/listened to every Ravi Zacharias book available. Then I said to myself why don't I read the ppl he keeps quoting in his books. G K Chesterton, Malcolm Mugridge, C S Lewis(yes, I know he is Anglican), Hilare Beloc, etc. Needless to say I was surprised my favorite Protestant apologist had been quoting Catholics all these years! I read their works, and the rest is history!
I am a cradle catholic. But had a childish understanding of Catholicism. Apologetics were never taught . I had to go right back to the start. Is there a god. This got me to William Lane Craig. Ravi Zacharias, John Lennox and all the atheists too that debated them. Then once I had enough evidence to satisfy my curiosity that the Christian God was real. Then I needed to know why and if Catholicism was right or wrong. Then listened to Scott Hahn , Peter Kreeft, Jimmy Akin . That did it for me. But I really loved listening to Ravi . It's a pity how he feel from grace. Now I can understand the mass and have a basic knowledge of Marianology. Just thought I would share my 2 cents worth. God bless you from Ireland 🇮🇪
My experience with the "praise and Worship" music. Quite literally drove me OUT of Protestantism. It provided the emotional impetus to do what my mind had had already suspected.
I was first attracted to your work after your debate with Matt Dillahunty. I thought, "man, I thought all the heavy lifting done by Protestants against atheism is a testament that we are the true Church." Little did I know Catholics had been doing this since the beginning.
I'm Protestant and was very anti Catholic due to upbringing. I now play the organ for a Catholic Church and have learned to love the Catholic tradition as more reverent than Protestant. I really appreciate the Catholic faith.
@@peterzinya407 It's true that in Deuteronomy 4:16. God says: “I did not command you concerning the making of images when I brought you out of Israel because I took no form among you.” In the New Testament, however, God does take form: “The Word was made flesh and dwelt among us" and in Colossians chapter 1:14-15, especially verse 15, it says: “Christ is the image of God, the firstborn of all creation.” And the Greek word there for “image” is “eikon,” or “icon". Images are not worshipped. They remind us of God or events in Christ's life. Especially in the past, when most people could not read or write. Just as a photograph of someone reminds you of them, an image reminds us of God.
@@peterzinya407 I get where you are coming from and if anyone bows down and worships a bit of wood or a lump of carved stone itself, they are wrong (I know no Catholic who would do that. Ask them if they are bowing to the bit of wood or the memory of Christ). But using paintings and statues (and nowadays photographs) to remind us of Christ and his life is different. I feel that down through the years, Protestants have maligned the remarkable gifts of artisans who have decorated Churches throughout the ages. Artistic gifts that have come from God, no less. When I saw Protestant Churches in Holland with vandalised headless statues, I felt a deep sorrow for the medieval stonemasons and all their hard work, all created for the glory of God. Idolatry is far more about worshipping money and power. That's where people need to be careful when considering idolatry and not a statue of Christ in his mother's arms.
@@candyclews4047 let me refresh your memory....... Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: 5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; Can you read? It says not to bow down yourself to them. But you Mary worshipers dont care what god says. You love bowing befor idols. And you say prots are in error for not bowing befor your idols. Just think about it.
Love the Catholic sphere on UA-cam like you, Pints with Aquinas, Renewal Ministries (love Ralph Martin), Ascension, etc. For me, the biggest driver was meeting my now priest, when I was initially interested in attending my local church. Not only was he insanely knowledgeable on Scripture, Sacred Tradition, and had answers for every single question I had from transubstantiation, to dogmas of Mary, to sola scriptura, to contraceptives, but he also recommended and let me borrow a number of helpful books by Scott Hahn and others that went deeper into my specific questions. Not going to put any of the wonderful channels down on UA-cam but I'd also encourage anyone considering learning more about Catholicism from the outside like I was / am, to ask to meet with a priest and have a conversation. In just the year and a half since that meeting, I can see my life radically changing and for the first time, almost feel the Holy Spirit actively working on changing me into what God always intended for me to be, and I know this lifelong process will be best aided with graces through the Catholic Church.
My son converted to Catholicism and became very educated about it. (He will begin studying for the priesthood in August). As a Protestant I began skeptically asking him every question I could possibly think of. His answers were so beautiful and complete that I am now joining the Catholic church.
The BILLION dollar Protestant, Praise & Worship" music industry has taken millions of Catholics out of the Church. I have never heard a well known Catholic apologist address the problem.
@@Kitiwake That's the part where I would say goes too far, while leaving the Church for the sake of a concert is shallow, encouraging them to leave would be counter productive
@@Kitiwake Many cradle Catholics INCLUDING me do not know their Faith well. But watching Trent Horn, Matt Fradd made me know at least the Catholic faith.
This is why even before I was baptized I never let my kids listen to prot worship music. Low effort, low IQ crap to ensnare the vapid and lazy with catchy chorus
Protestants love Jesus as much as we Catholics love Jesus. But we love Jesus in a different light than them. I'm not shocked that some Protestants are surprised to think that "Catholics love Jesus", because they perceive us as something different, as though we are against the faith in Jesus in the core. No, we all love Jesus, but it is equally important to love Jesus as He wants us to love Him, not just loving Jesus as we want to.
It's very difficult for me to see the upside of protestants saying that they're surprised to find out that the Church that Jesus himself founded is Christian. The implications of that sort of statement explain the cultural moment in North America, to them watching a Catholic be something other than a caricature is surprising because hating Catholicism _is part of their religion._ Do I believe pentacostals worship God when they do snake handling? No. But because I know God effects himself sacramentally, I know pentacostals are Christian and not something else because they've been baptized. However, not only do they not believe Catholics are Christian, they have no means in their paltry theology to correct themselves.
@@Qwerty-jy9mj Hi, thanks for your reply. I myself wouldn't say that hating Catholicism is a part of Protestantism today, perhaps some denominations or some of them do. It's the general lack of information about what true Catholic Christianity, that is Christianity, is all about.
It's very generous of you to say that Protestants love Jesus. Catholics and Protestants have Jesus in common and yet we have so much else different. Jesus said that if we love Him we will obey His commandments (John 14:15), and that is a real challenge whether you are a Catholic or a Protestant.
I was at CCv1 right before I made my journey into the Church. At the Q&A, I was actually shocked the amount of the Christian apologists who were divergent from classical theism (even one claiming to be an open theist!). It wasn't a nail in the coffin on protestantism for me right there, but after learning about classical theism and other views that are quite frankly troublesome during my time in college it was quite startlingly. Looking back, it just confirmed to me how disunity in faith can lead to crucial errors in understanding God.
Honestly the reason I started thinking a lot about Catholicism was initially why it was the only church the Protestant ministry group I had befriended warned me to stay away from.
I remember this being played out in my own life in my conversion as well. I was initially opened up to Nicene Christianity from the LDS faith by Jordan Peterson (leading me to take the bible), CS Lewis, and people like Andrew Klavan on the Daily Wire. I was then exposed to Catholicism via Michael Knowles, and people engaging with me on reddit in Christianity subreddits and when such topics came up. What opened me up was the people I respected just happening to be Catholic or Christian, which allowed the arguments to land.
I'm ex-Mormon too. Was pretty jack for years before finally asking for help and Mormonism absolutely not having what I needed. Finally found it in the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.
I think genuinely showing that you love God will always be more powerful than any argument. If people see that you're trying to love God and your neighbor, that you have faith, hope, and charity, that a relationship with God in the Catholic Church gives your life meaning, they'll want what you have. Not to say arguments aren't important. We should at least know the basics of our faith well enough not to repeat blatant errors to non-Catholics. We're all a blend of intellectual, relational, emotional, etc., but may tend toward one over the others.
Protestant here: i actually kind of liked some of Maher’s music for a while. What threw me off him though is in the aftermath of George Floyd he sang a blasphemous version of O Sacred Head Now Wounded, changing “head” to “neck” and making it about racial grievance.
Thomas Aquinas did not believe in the immaculate conception of Mary and argued against it. So then why should I believe it when your church suddenly decided it was dogmatic in 1854?
@YAJUN YUAN I don't think his argument is a very good one. Most people become Christian before they've read the Bible from cover-to-cover, so they don't know about *everything* they're submitting to, even in a Solo Scriptura framework. The important thing is that they concede that the Bible is the Word of God and thereby submit to its authority. The same is true of someone submitting to the authority of the Church which Jesus founded. Here's Joe Heschmeyer saying that in a more articulate fashion: ua-cam.com/video/xCSQEvGPRIY/v-deo.html
@YAJUN YUAN > "Well initially yes, but if they later find something problematic..." So if, say, Luther found James' epistle problematic with his own understanding of justification, is he free to question its divine origin and get rid of it? If not, why not? > "Word of God = infallible because God is its author." This logic doesn't hold and it's also not Biblical. Firstly, something can be purely human and infallible, such as a Mathematics textbook, containing no errors. Secondly, the Biblical authors held that their oral teaching was equally as authoritative as their written works, what we would today call the New Testament. Thirdly, was the decree of the Council of Jerusalem binding on Christians only when Luke wrote about it in Acts of the Apostles, or was it binding purely because of the authority of the Council? > "Unless you can say Pope and his bishops are equal to the Word of God, then we must be talking about two different types of authority, one fallible and one infallible." Was St. Peter infallible when he wrote his epistles? > "Another difference is we know that word of God cannot change because its closed, so even if you are ignorant about all of it, you know that you will always be receiving the same word of God when you do later read the other parts." Well, the Bible *did* change at the Reformation, with many books being removed (and some removed and then later put back). Not only that, at the Reformation, the Bible was radically re-interpreted by different groups and these (often conflicting) beliefs were presented as the truth. I would also suggest that this "advantage" you suggest is actually a disadvantage because it means that if the Bible doesn't talk about something (and it's our only infallible source), Christians are left in the dark about a lot of important issues.
I am a Catholic convert from last Easter from Protestant. What got me interested in Catholicism is when I learned that I actually had many Catholic beliefs anyway. So thankful I emailed the priest that I did to ask questions. He was a good "salesman" for Catholicism. We spent most of that meeting just on how much we have in common. For the other things, he made it easy to ask about it without making me feel bad for disagreeing.
Also wanted to thank you, Trent for your videos. They were a great help for me because you do a great job with questions. I watched a bunch of videos of Catholic answers and I especially loved it when you were on there because you have a gentleness in the way you answer questions.
@@bdklein28 of course catholic vudeos will talk about how wonderful the catholic church is. all the while the dirty priest is in the back room molesting an alter boy. look at their fruits, not what they say.
I grew up a Protestant in a predominantly Catholic community. I witnessed Catholics living their faith, but just as often Catholics living contrary to their faith. In the end I became Catholic, but it was a rocky, muddy, dirty road. I saw a lot along the way to make me doubt the Catholic Church was special. Apart from what they did on Sunday, they were like everybody else. If it weren't for a consistent Catholic message beamed into my community from the outside by Catholic radio, I doubt I could have chosen Catholicism over something else.
It bears repeating that the only good reason for being Catholic is that it's true. If if were down to the earthly goodness of anything associated with it, it wouldn't have lasted 2,000 years
@@Kitiwake That's true. At that point in my life I was hoping to see more of people's faith in their day by day behavior. In part I don't think it was there. In part I wasn't looking hard enough.
@@Qwerty-jy9mj I don't totally disagree, but religion isn't a set of abstract truths like geometry. Some of its truths have to do with people. E.g., if you follow this way, you will be a changed person. Etc. If you see a lot of people apparently following it who seem to be just like everyone else, I think it's natural to question whether it's true.
Thank you. I (we all) need the occasional boost to remind us that the best evangelization tool we have is to live our life and faith joyfully using the gifts we have. Music, art, chemistry, mathematics, law, or for me laughter. I'm of course ready to walk with them for a while after I have captured their interest.
Growing up a Protestant, I only ever met “non-practicing” Catholics. A Protestant would never frame themselves in that light and it really confused me. As an adult, I met Catholics who love Jesus. I read my way into the church. However, just as my husband was ready to explore the Church with me, his lifelong friend who was a priest left the Church to marry. The ex-priest now attends an extremely liberal Methodist church. Further proof to my husband that Catholicism isn’t worth our time. Pray for him.
Pints, Trent, Akin, and the embrace of the church in all of it's traditions has made my spiritual life really fulfilling, that includes TLM and Latin music. Request: Inspiring Philosophy does really thoughtful christian apologetics primarily through TikTok and I think a collaboration with him would be cool.
Thank you for sharing this one! I’m in the beginning stages of converting and one of the things I was curious about was music and such. Like it sounds silly but part of me was like “Gregorian chants are great but that’s not really my vibe.” Lol I’m glad to hear Matt Maher is Catholic, I already follow him and will probably be listening a bit more intently to his lyrics from now on. Im also reading “Why We’re Catholic” and had no idea that most Catholics believe in a form of evolution and that it was a *Catholic priest* who came up with the theory behind the Big Bang! That blew my mind! Like, I don’t remember learning that in science class. The more I learn, the more I distrust the school systems. Thank you for sharing Trent!
My favorite thing about Matt Mahr partially cause he put the word Transubstantiation in one of his songs because of a bet. Which to me is pretty based:
So much truth! I started listening to father, John Ricardo. It was his passionate way of explaining the gospel I need for evangelism that flipped the switch in my Protestant heart. Matt Maher was also a big influence. Hearing his passionate worship music and incredible dedication to he’s Catholic faith Also started melting my heart. Of course, there’s a lot more to the story… But I am Currently in RCIA. Now listening to scholars like Brandt Pitre, Scott Hahn, etc… it is beautiful and humbling to see things in scripture that I never saw before. I have been walking with Christ since 1996 ❤
Hi ! thanks for this video ! Also there are many things to learn about Jesus in Luke 24v13 to 35, here important verses: 13 That same day, two of them were going to a village called Emmaus, *60 furlongs away* from Jerusalem 16 *But their eyes were prevented from recognizing him* . 29 But they put pressure on him: “Stay with us, *evening is falling and already the day is fading*.” 30 As *he was at table with them* , *he took the bread, he blessed it and, after having broken it, he gave it to them* . 31 Then *THEIR EYES WERE OPENED and they recognized him*; but *he had already BECOME INVISIBLE TO THEIR EYES*. 33 *At the same time* they arose and *returned to Jerusalem* where they found the Eleven and their group gathered together. 35 And they on their side began to tell what had happened on the way, and how *they had recognized him AT THE BREAKING OF THE BREAD* . So 2 disciples walking on a long road of 60 stadia from Jerusalem not recognizing Jesus walking with them and arrive in the evening at Emmaus, there Jesus makes the consecration of the bread and the eyes of these disciples are opened, what eyes here? since just afterwards it was: but he had become invisible to them!" And now these 2 disciples say they recognized Jesus at the breaking of the bread! I remind you that one of these disciples is called Cleopas and does not not part of the 12 during the Eucharistic institution. Little clue too, this fraction of the bread consecrated by Jesus gives these 2 disciples strength because >>> At the same time they set off again on this road while it is dark and that there are 60 stages to walk. This is proof that Jesus wants everyone to recognize him in the consecrated bread: Holy Eucharist! And with that visit the site of Carlo Acutis which has listed all the Eucharistic miracles around the world
What led me to the Catholic Church was my own research and EWTN, Catholic Answers, Lizzys answers, and of course Trent Horn's book Case for Catholicism. I think God for these things because without them I would probably still be Southwrn Baptist.
When Christ tells us about not building a house on sand and then then I’m supposed to believe sola scriptura is a solid argument without having one biblical reference defending its teaching but then we see Simon bar Jona becoming the Rock or Peter has at least one scripture defending the Catholic Church which is why I left the Protestant church in 2002 at 16 among so many other reasons. I’d rather have a messy house on rocks than a weak house on sand that’s foundation shifts under every wind or wave.
@@_ready__ Peter being an Apostle is given the great commission to go and make disciples of all nations. His particular commission is to serve the apostles as a leader. Historically, Peter also ministered to the gentiles in the latter part of his life, since he died in Rome.
My experience in China inspired me. The young people becoming Catholic and the super committed African students at the parish church showed me the universal appeal of our faith. It is stronger when under persecution.
@@MrPeach1 No worries, I've had many friends that were Catholic and one right now that's a Deacon. We've had some interesting conversations as you can imagine. Anything I watch of Trent's is for information only. Thank you though!
@@MrPeach1 I thought that seemed sort of odd. Sorry in that context it is very funny, but I thought you were being critical of him. Usually those things don't go over my head like that. I've watched a few of his videos and for the most part I think he is very good and thorough at what he does. Through the years most of my friends that were Catholic usually couldn't answer questions I had. My friend that's a Deacon has done a good job with his answers and explaining Catholic beliefs. He and I have had some good debates and discussions.
@@getgordonallen As a Cradle Catholic I spent most of my life with my parents wanting me to explore the faith but I was just disinterested. I got more serious about understanding the faith about 4 years ago. These apologist have helped me learn and embrace my faith on a more intellectual and historical understanding. They have helped me to chose to be a Catholic as opposed to just being born into it. It's good to see your open to hearing our side of the story.
More good Catholic teachers needed. In the past the Catholic education has been horrible. “Believe in Jesus and the Bible” without the WHY, is recipe for Protestants and athiests in the making
Definitely uncovers a new layer of meaning to a title of St. Thomas Aquinas as 'the Common Doctor'! Thanks for what you do, T-Ho! -- from another fellow convert from good ol' St Theresa's in PHX (class of 2000).
6:18 Guess why I reached out to thank George Werver the other day. He sent people from Bible colleges down to Italy to do missionary work with Catholics. My mother made the exact same discovery you allowed some Protestants to make. Two observations. A) While my mother basically already ceased to be Anticatholic then, before I was born or even made, she did not cease to be a Fundie. B) 1960's Italian Catholics were far more Fundie than 2010's US Catholics.
The fact that there are still fundamental debates about Christology, the Trinity, and the nature of God happening within Protestantism with the air of legitimacy is reason enough to seriously doubt Protestantism. These questions were settled in the first millennia, yet some Protestants feel they have the right to question these conclusions. I’m thinking of Dr. Craig’s neo-apollinarianism (his term, not mine), the eternal subordination of the son debates, rejections of original sin, many articulations social trinitarianism which ultimately lead to tri-theism, etc. If you’re a Protestant, should you be so concerned about ancillary doctrines like intercession of the saints, or how many children Mary had when Protestantism struggles to tell you who God is? I think confessional Lutheranism or conservative Anglicanism is pretty much the only option for serious Protestants because they are the only ones who seem to make a believable case about how the other “non-infallible”authorities (Church teaching, holy tradition, etc.) can have any binding authority in relation to sola scriptura.
I'm a fairly new fan of your podcast. GREAT WORK. Thanks for exposing me to Matt Maher. Reverting back after 24 years as evangelical. Why? I'm very Pro-life and find seeker friendly evangelical churches AVOIDING this. This has disturbed me greatly. Also. Studying church history and Thomas Aquinas. Realizing too many protestant churches believe too many different things (no stability in theology). Then finding Bishop Barron, Pints with Aquinas, Council of Trent, Capturing Christianity, Father Mike, Breaking in the Habit and watching conversion stories. My husband and I decided to read church history together and it has changed everything. We're in the south so we kind of in the closet with our evangelical friends who will have very hard time understanding, but the people at the catholic church have welcomed us with open arms knowing our situation. I do believe God has brought me to the catholic church to be a bridge, perhaps show them the value of knowing scripture (which is a bit lacking) and maybe I can show my evangelical friends not to throw away 1500 years of history. I love them all and even when I was in ministry team at evangelical church I was reading catholic authors and never thought the catholics were heretics. I really don't get the bulldog personality of James White. His hatred toward catholicism seems so personal, while you seem to understand and get your points across so much more dignified. I appreciate all the work you have put into defending the catholic faith.
Trent, is there any chance you can respond to the last video from Gavin Ortlund about the icons and the early church fathers unanimously rejecting the veneration of them? I would be very interested in seeing your response, I also saw a lot of comments under his video from catholics who seemed to be hearing about this for the first time.
It makes me super sad when I encounter animosity between Catholics and Protestants. I mean, I did laugh a bit at Matt Maher's music being called a bridge to hell but it's a serious issue all the same. Many of my Protestant friends were told by their parents/grandparents that Catholics don't love Jesus, worship Mary and don't read the scriptures. And I crossed myself once and was told not to bless myself 😅 so...I've felt the animosity too! I grew up high church Anglican and often wondered where I fell. I'm thankful to have been led to the Roman church! Even though most of my friends and family disagree and can't seem to dialogue about it. I will also add that I don't tend to like Christian music (modern I mean) because it constantly feels like the artists are trying to sell me something. But Matt Is a true artist and I do like his work so you're probably right! He's obviously making an impact!
I wholeheartedly agree with everything Trent said, and it’s important to know that God can and will work through non-Catholics, and give his Holy Spirit to people outside of the Catholic Church to accomplish His will. If you want to see some very obvious “God is working through this person” evidence for people who are very far from becoming Catholic, watch the interview on the Shawn Ryan Show with the Machine Gun Preacher. Absolutely incredible story where God is OBVIOUSLY using this guy. It’s awesome to see God working through non-Catholics in very obvious, incredible ways. He may not be Catholic, but he’s been incredibly obedient to our Lord. If he ain’t makin it to Heaven, I’m screwed lol.
I just have to say, the warning that the guy gave about Matt Maher was really funny. In a w 0:03 ay, though, he is kind of right. Matt Maher’rs music had a huge influence on me when I was starting my journey towards the church. I had always been equal parts, drawn to Catholicism, and taught to fear it. When I just couldn’t believe the things that I had always believed anymore, and was starting to study a little bit about Catholicism, I knew that Matt Maher was Catholic, And as a music lover, decided to delve more deeply into his songs and lyrics. I thank God all the time for using Matt Maher in my life. His channel led me to so many other great UA-cam channels as well. Including this one.
I do wish all these antiCatholic preachers would use the much more correct term of Latin Rite Catholics when referring to the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. “Roman” Catholic is the label the newly formed Church of England came up with in the 16th century.
If I hadn't read "The Lord of the Rings," I don't know if I'd be Catholic today. I was an evangelical Protestant when I came to faith in Christ, but then 20-odd years ago, I read LOTR, loved it (and when I say I loved it, I mean it was the most enjoyable reading experience of my life), and then heard it was full of Catholic symbolism. I was intrigued because I hadn't picked up on that in my reading. So I read a book explaining that. That's when I leaned about Tolkien's mother, Mabel, and her conversion from the Church of England to the Catholic Church. My mind was blown. I had never in all my life been told that Protestants can become Catholics. There were ex-Catholics in the pews beside me at my church -- I knew their stories -- but nobody once told me that there are ex-Protestants at mass. I thought, "WHY would anyone convert from Protestant to Catholic, especially at the expense of being disowned by your family AND family-in-law (as was the case for Mabel)??? Anyway, suddenly, I had to find out why she did that. A chink had been blown in the wall. And the rest is history. I've been Catholic for close to seven years 🙂. I was drawn to the beauty of Lord of the Rings -- beauty wins people very effectively.
Actually I think the sentiment from this guy does have some truth to it. What I mean is, I am extremely caution about listening to Protestant music, especially around my children. Because I have heard many songs that contain lyrics which contradict the Catholic faith. So I don’t want my kids absorbing ideas that contradict the faith. Now, it is not like Catholic music is singing about the infallibility of the Pope 😅 I would be curious if he has specific objections to a particular song or if he just objects to any music written by a Catholic?
I actually heard Francis Chan say in an interview that he was shocked to learn that Matt Maher was Catholic. He said it made him think differently about Catholicism.
@@gonzalomorales1342 Well, I watched the videos on the channel Capturing Christianity by Cameron Bertuzzi and the arguments from scholars were convincing, for example the case for the pope. However, there were numerous other topics on German channels that adressed Sola Scriptura.
How exciting! I just learned in Trent's video with Cameron not to say "welcome home".....I'm still figuring out what I should say instead....so for now I'll say "Praise God!"
Matt Maher was influential early on in my conversion journey. Lord, I Need You is one of my favorite songs and I thought if that was written by a Catholic, maybe Catholics are Christians after all.
im watching this video because Trent Horn did exactly what he was describing in this video. He did a good job answering different questions and objections i had about the catholic church.
@@michaal105 I'm not very extroverted, so I don't really see myself doing it, but I'd ask them if they are baptized. If they aren't I'd offer to explain why that is a dangerous state for their eternal destiny, if they are I'd invite them to mass, and if they are reticent I'd try to address their objection. So, are you validly baptized in the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit as cosubstantial persons of the One True God?
@@tafazzi-on-discord I am baptised in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. The reason I asked my initial question is that I am very curious to hear from a Catholic how they would explain the gospel. How they would share it I mean. So say you and I were having a coffee. How would you explain the gospel to me? I appreciate you responding to me by the way. Thank you.
I agree with Trent that Catholics need to be more involved with Mere Christianity apologetics. It's a great way of connecting with atheists, but also with Protestants who want more than mere Christianity apologetics.
@@_ready__ As a Catholic I agree that many Catholics unfortunately don't know the Bible well, nor do they know the teachings of the Church. However, I think that's true of Protestants as well. I think the more you study the Bible without pre-conceived filters, you may not necessarily become Catholic, but it becomes harder to reconcile Protestant doctrine with what the Bible actually says. Then when you study what 1st and 2nd century Christians believed, you find no historical basis for Protestant doctrine.
@@_ready__ I was Presbyterian for many years, but after reading the Bible for many years, I became convinced Jesus founded the Catholic Church, and we are saved only through the Catholic Church.
@@_ready__ When it comes to understanding the Christian faith, the starting point for most Protestants is the Bible. This makes intuitive sense. If you want to know what Christianity is, you’re told to read the Bible. However, when you read the Bible, you have to accept that Jesus didn’t leave behind a Bible, but a Church. Christianity began with the Church. The New Testament came later as a product of the Church, not the other way around. It was the Church that first needed to have the understanding of what constituted authentic Christianity to determine which books of the Bible were valid. When this dawned on me, it forced me to change my orientation of how I ought to understand Christianity. Its a product of the Church, not the Bible. To know raw authentic Christianity, you can begin with the Church. It’s more often the case that someone can be a Christian, yet never read a word of Scripture; however, one can’t be a Christian without a Church. There’s no such thing as a ‘churchless’ Christian. If Christianity began with Church, then whatever organization Jesus left behind must remain, it will spread around the globe, and it will continue to remain until the end of time. The Church is infused with the Holy Spirit; therefore, we know nothing will destroy it, not even Satan; which means, not even the sinfulness of human beings will be able alter its teachings. The Church began as the singular authoritative source for Gospel truth; and it will always retain its authoritative role in teaching and professing the Gospel truth. If all of this is true, this may not convince one that the Catholic Church is true; however, it calls into question many Protestant assumptions and doctrinal claims.
Poaching, huh? Not a single Protestant in this country needs to worry about being denigrated when they admit to their faith in public. We Catholics must begin and operate from a place of enduring denigration. The only class of people that have never denigrated me for being a Catholic, is the homeless people on the streets. Not a single one of them has ever given me side eye or stink face for being Catholic when I perform Works of Mercy for them... not a single one... It's only everyone else who is not homeless who will give me the side eye or the stink face or insult me or scream at me outright in front of witnesses for being Catholic. What's the difference between those two groups of people? Being convinced of One's Own power. The homeless are not so convinced of their own power, so that gratitude has a chance to fill in that power vacuum in their spirits. The non-homeless people are very convinced of their own power. There is no power vacuum in their spirits. It also means there's no room for gratitude in their Spirits either. Because I'm old enough now to interact with the homeless while maintaining boundaries the whole way through the interaction, they aren't scary to me, they aren't 'other' to me. Don't be afraid of the homeless because you think they might ask you for something that you can't give. Be ready to tell them NO at the drop of a hat while you're talking to them but, at the same time. Be willing to cough up $2. They each have their own Guardian Angel to convict their souls about what they should be doing with that $2 that you handed them. So let them have the money and don't worry about it. "The left hand should never know what the right hand is doing."
@@StAlphonsusHasAPosse ONLY in the United States of America 🇺🇸, Western Europe 🌍, and the Islamic Middle East Catholicism is HATED. But Catholicism is well LOVED in Asia and Africa.
Finally Spencer Smith is showing up on Trent's show. I've been watching his vids for a while just and it's some of the most headaches inducing nonsense I've heard. I can already hear his unhinged reply.
In my experience as a Catholic (I converted in 1970), I have found such a reluctance from Protestant relatives and others that any premise presented to them to begin a discussion, even the most innocent and that which we all should agree with, they won't "put their hands up" on. They are so brought up against Catholicism they fear admiting anything. 😂
Are these people ever embarrassed by the utter lack of basis for believing they have the same interpretation as the early Church? If they were to hear some technical scientific jargon, they would readily admit they don't know what it means, they have to be taught. But when it comes to the Bible, they just take for granted whatever interpretation their particular sect holds. They would do well to follow the distinction between the literal and spiritual interpretation then base their views on the most well attested literal interpretations.
That lazy, “swooping” in topic you mentioned Catholic do sometimes in arguments towards the end, in the gaming community, is called “sniping” or “farming”, if you needed terms to add to your repertoire for future videos and podcasts 😉
I would say it depends based on which one you're best at discussing. Jesus said that we are many parts, all one body. Some people are better at arguing against atheism, others better at arguing against Jews, Muslims, and others who believe in God or some kind of god but aren't Christians, and yet others are better at bringing those who are Christians into Christ's Holy Catholic Church. We need all these people. While some might say bringing atheists into Christianity is more important (because even Protestants can technically be saved through their baptism provided they commit no mortal sins afterward, whereas atheists have no route to salvation that I am aware of), if arguing about the existence of God isn't your thing, then trying to bring Protestants back into the true Church might be a better fit for you. It's important for Christianity to be united, and Protestants guilty of mortal sin generally do not have a sacrament of Reconciliation, so they need to be brought into the Church to have access to this.
The closest I ever came to becoming Catholic was for these reasons, especially that it seemed Catholics knew what they were talking about much more than the low church Protestants I grew up with. I wasn’t quite swayed on the theology, but it was very refreshing to explore new territory
When I first started becoming Catholic, I stumbled on Spencer smith. He doesn’t just hate Catholics, he actually hates the whole Christian music movement. So, don’t feel to bad fellow Catholics. He’s just a little lost.
Yes, I get what you mean, but he said the music is a gateway to Romanism and Romanism is a gateway to hell, so in his mind and to his audience he stated that "Romanism" is an issue and a gateway to hell. And I think I saw him say plenty other things in the past derogatory about Catholicism that were nothing to do with music.
Love Matt Maher. I was listening to him today. "Remembrance" is a fantastic song and if any protestant listened to it I could see them turning their wheels...
For those who think that anti-Catholicism isn’t a thing anymore, we present a man claiming that praise and worship music written by a Catholic is a bridge to Hell.
It drove me away for many, many years. I prefer to not see the musicians at all. Some parishes sing everything and I want to run away. So tacky and irreverent.
For me, Pints With Aquinas was huge in leading me from my Lutheran upbringing to embracing the Catholic faith. 🔥
What's great about Matt fradd is that he talks about a whole host of things so he casts a wide net
Was there a particular video that “opened the door” for you to entertain Catholicism’s claims?
Same here. PWA really helped me get over the classic Catholic objections. Was confirmed 3/22 praise God
@@Detailed_Design1 Wow !! Congratulations it's great to have you.
God bless you and all those dear to you.
From Ireland 🇮🇪.
@@adastra123 Catholics are so welcoming to new Catholics. I really haven't seen the same thing in Protestant videos on UA-cam. I think it's awesome that you are so supportive of new believers.
I was born and raised catholic. I did not understand any of it's teaching. I've rebelled as teenager and ultimately left as an adult. After my coversion, I started to read the Bible and learned protestant teaching from my brother, who also converted years earlier. Then I ended up in local evangelical church. It was a great experience... but then I've felt lonely. IKR? I'm extremely introverted and protestant social living did not work for me. But still, I've been reading Bible daily and consuming theology content a lot. This reasons, feeling lonely, being rejected by yet another girl, wanting to leave that church... seem stupid. But it led me to ask myself - what if I go back to the Catholic Church? And then it started... I believe the Holy Spirit took that single thought and did wonders. Couple days later I realized I believe in Mary and purgatory. It was childlike faith, but all that I needed to start my research. I went to my old parish, to come back through official channel. I've got my instructions. But I was stopped in that transition. All that loneliness, isolation and pain did catch up to me and I got stuck in my apartament for over a month, depressed to the core. I've lost myself and couldn't find a way back to Christ. So I did give my life to Mary, cause I was hopeless. And She led me back to Her Son, straight to the confession. Now I'm officially back to the Catholic Church and I've never been happier in my entire life!
Not sure why I share it, but... this is my story. Written by God Almighty. Praise our Lord!
Thanks for sharing that story!! Seems like briefly the devil tried to stop you there but Mary stomped on him.
There’s many with similar stories. Catholics need better teachers
I don't know you from Adam so don't read into this too much, but purely from an outside observer perspective it seems like atleast possibly your conversion was attributable (or atleast a significant factor) to psychological upheaval i.e feelings of being lonely and rejecting from a woman (and under these circumstances you suddenly decided or considered to return back to Catholicism and had a sudden change of doctrinal beliefs). Maybe explore this and make sure your being guided by the Holy Spirit to return and not your emotions and psychological factors.
Adam you must be describing yourself. Nice try
@J J I wasn't even talking to you and yet you respond rudely on behalf of someone else jeez.
For me, as a cradle protestant I used to bash hard on Catholicism. With all the same old protestant objections. Never even bothered to research them, I ignorantly regurgitated them. It wasn't until I humbled myself and really wanted to seek the history of my faith all the way back to Jesus. I had no choice but to become Catholic. Because the more I dug the more I found protestants had been lying to me. Then I decided to start over throwing out all I heard from protestants. I started watching Catholics teach me about Catholicism. instead of protestants teaching me lies about Catholicism. That's when I found out that Catholicism is Holy, traditional, historical and Biblical. I am glad the Holy Spirit led me to Catholicism.
I had a very similar experience!
One thing which got to me was the Chaplet of Divine Mercy.
Just imagine if you finally started to listen to what Jewish scholars and historians have to say about their tradition and scriptures and language and history. You might even jettison the lies of all of Christendom.
I had a similar experience. Except I left catholicism. How did "protestants" lie to you? In my research, I found that the Catholic church lied to me.
I suggest you watch Pastor Mike Winger’s videos on Catholicism. Not sure what lies you thought you were told?
Proud to be part of the “Evangelical Exodus” into the Catholic Church.
Super glad for where I was, super glad to be in the fullness of the faith now.
Me too
Hope you didn't have to ditch Fundamentalism to convert.
I didn't have to in 1988.
If you had to, something has changed for the worse in what appeared to be the Catholic Church.
@@hglundahlI was raised Baptist. Evangelical, but not necessarily Fundamentalists.
Right there with you! 🙏🙌
HA.
People are leaving the catholic church like it's on fire. There is no "evangelization in".
330,000 little boys in France were raped by 3,000 catholic pedophile priests, and it barely made the news, because people EXPECT that from catholics.
Jesus said child rape was unforgivable (Matt 18:6-14), and everyone involved will get eternal damnation. That means every catholic.
Now you're going to lie about how "everyone else is running a child rape cult, too", and I will tell people how you're lying!
The "best" way to attract anyone to Catholicism is by being a good Catholic. It doesn't matter whether it's in your professional life, within your hobbies, in your community, or within your family; be a good Catholic. If you use your talents according to God's will, the world will see it.
Clearly it’s better Catholic education
@@_ready__ tell them "dont go to hell"
@@_ready__ If they are asking the question, then you've succeeded in attracting them. Answering that question depends on where they are in their spiritual journey. If you have a particular person or a more specific set of facts, we can discuss this further.
@@_ready__ I'm sorry if my answer led to any confusion. I also thank you for your response, which helps to illustrate the point I was trying to make. Let's make an analogy to a more earthly question. Suppose someone asks me "How do I get to Times Square?" My answer would depend entirely on where they are. If they are just a few blocks away, I would give them walking directions. Farther away, I'd direct them to the subway. If we were in a subway station, I'd direct them to the train they need to take and recommend a stop where they should exit the train. If we're just outside the city, we might be talking about driving directions or a commuter train. If they are across the country, we would discuss plane travel. If they are in another country, we might have to discuss getting a visa. Similarly, my response to "How do I get to heaven?" depends on where they are now in their spiritual journey. My answer would be different for an observant Jew, a lapsed Catholic, a practicing Lutheran, a weak Atheist, or an impressionable young child.
@@_ready__ If a Bible-reading ex Catholic asked me "How do I get to heaven?" I'd take that as an invitation to a larger conversation. I'm assuming they know that I'm a Catholic and they may even know that I struggled with my faith as an adult. I'd probably open with, "What kind of answer are you expecting?"
My wife and I were invited one sunday by a couple of evangelical from my wife's family in law. Nice people, but totally brainswashed by their pastor. They were proud to show us on the internet their fantastic church whith fancy lights and big sound system. After they threw at my face some severe criticism towards the Catholic Church, they heard me speaking about my catholic faith . Then the lady said with astonishment : " Oh ,but you do have a real relationship with Jesus ! "
Bonjour from France.
Salut Ignace, connais tu des chaines youtube catholiques d apologie comme celle de Trent Horn, en francais ? Je n en ai jamais vue
@@alexs.5107 En français je n'en connais pas. Je me fais des séances de visionnage sans sous-titres. Quand je suis concentré j'arrive un peu à suivre l'anglais.
En tout cas je n'ai pas encore vu de mouvement significatif de retour vers l'Eglise , de la part de protestants français. J'ai l'impression que le phénomène est purement américain.
@@alexs.5107 Hey Bub, you're on a Catholic site. TALK LATIN!!!
@@bengoolie5197
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Iike trent
As a protestant that is seriously looking into converting into Catholicism with questions, this is a great approach. Watching Trent's videos and the actions of Catholics in the public world as a force of good, the draw seems incredibly strong. Following this channel after that has led to further theological understanding.
People are almost always surprised to hear my interest in science when they know I'm also Catholic. They assume I blindly believe all the Church teaches without reading about why it teaches what it does. They are equally shocked when they realize the Church embraces science, has its own astronomers, pioneered the big bang theory, teaches that evolution is acceptable, and came up with the Gregorian Calendar.
@YAJUNYUAN I agree, the Catholic Church, as compared to other denominations, is much more ‘progressive’ today when it comes to physics and cosmology. And I find this rather puzzling given other (in my opinion) rather archaic teachings let’s say on demons and exorcism.
@YAJUNYUAN dude Im not like anti you but why do you focus so much on Catholic stuff and like Catholic drama its so random lol
The Catholic Church teaches that evolution is acceptable?!?
What do you mean by that?
How can creation and evolution coexist?
@@capecodder04 Of course creation and evolution can coexist, that's very simple to understand. Evolution doesn't imply that life evolved from nothingness. Personally I'm doubtful about evolution, but that's a different story.
In other words you like that the catholic church legitimizes anti biblical scientific lies about God's creation? Ok...... The word of God is not a priority for decision in becoming catholic very often.
100% agree. When I was an agnostic in college, I was drawn to philosophy and seeking the truth. But I was actually a mathematics major. I was blown away to see that all the brilliant mathematicians I was learning about (Descartes, Euler, Newton) all believed in God. This made me take more seriously my search for God and get me to jump off the fence of agnosticism.
Matt Maher was doing a mission at a CATHOLIC parish and a protestant couple was commenting that they were very surprised that Matt was at a Catholic church. I quietly giggled. In the middle of the "concert" there was Adoration and Matt's explanation before Adoration was beautiful.
Matt Maher went goofy “woke”. He was pretty low-t before, now he’s just sad.
@@JK-ip5zcwhy do you say that??
@@crossbearer6453 he’s a bot
It was precisely that multiple writers/intellectuals whose works I admired (Tolkien, Chesterton, Michael Ward, Malcolm Guite, and Holly Ordway specifically) "just so happened" to be Catholic that convinced me that I needed to take Catholicism more seriously. They weren't what ultimately convinced me of the Catholic faith, and my favorite Chesterton work is from his pre-Catholic years (Orthodoxy), but that these minds were convinced the Church is THE Church meant I couldn't just dismiss it.
"The Pope has infiltrated K-Love" 🤣🤣🤣
Our mission is complete, we can finally reach our final form!
Elysium has fallen. Call Jerod Butler.
The best way to attract Protestants to Catholicism is for Catholics to live as Saints.
6 years ago I had read/listened to every Ravi Zacharias book available. Then I said to myself why don't I read the ppl he keeps quoting in his books. G K Chesterton, Malcolm Mugridge, C S Lewis(yes, I know he is Anglican), Hilare Beloc, etc. Needless to say I was surprised my favorite Protestant apologist had been quoting Catholics all these years! I read their works, and the rest is history!
I am a cradle catholic. But had a childish understanding of Catholicism. Apologetics were never taught .
I had to go right back to the start.
Is there a god.
This got me to William Lane Craig. Ravi Zacharias, John Lennox and all the atheists too that debated them.
Then once I had enough evidence to satisfy my curiosity that the Christian God was real.
Then I needed to know why and if Catholicism was right or wrong.
Then listened to Scott Hahn , Peter Kreeft, Jimmy Akin .
That did it for me.
But I really loved listening to Ravi . It's a pity how he feel from grace.
Now I can understand the mass and have a basic knowledge of Marianology.
Just thought I would share my 2 cents worth.
God bless you from Ireland 🇮🇪
Saying that Ravi Zacharias led you into Catholicism really makes Catholicism look worse
@@ten4l He was one of the stepping stones.
@@ten4l Why? James White is one of the best catholic apologetic and a protestant-catholic conversion machine and he's quite anticatholic.
@@adastra123 Again, it makes Catholicism look worse
My experience with the "praise and Worship" music. Quite literally drove me OUT of Protestantism. It provided the emotional impetus to do what my mind had had already suspected.
I was first attracted to your work after your debate with Matt Dillahunty. I thought, "man, I thought all the heavy lifting done by Protestants against atheism is a testament that we are the true Church." Little did I know Catholics had been doing this since the beginning.
That Protestants often quoted Catholics made me want to research those who were quoted. And Mother Mary did the rest which is why I'm Catholic.
It saddens me to see how hardened some are to truly finding out what the Catholic Church believes.
Great video Trent! 👍🏻
Protestants believe we are going to hell
I'm Protestant and was very anti Catholic due to upbringing. I now play the organ for a Catholic Church and have learned to love the Catholic tradition as more reverent than Protestant. I really appreciate the Catholic faith.
what goes thru your mind when you see catholics on their knees befor the graven images.
@@peterzinya407 It's true that in Deuteronomy 4:16. God says: “I did not command you concerning the making of images when I brought you out of Israel because I took no form among you.” In the New Testament, however, God does take form: “The Word was made flesh and dwelt among us" and in Colossians chapter 1:14-15, especially verse 15, it says: “Christ is the image of God, the firstborn of all creation.” And the Greek word there for “image” is “eikon,” or “icon". Images are not worshipped. They remind us of God or events in Christ's life. Especially in the past, when most people could not read or write. Just as a photograph of someone reminds you of them, an image reminds us of God.
@@candyclews4047 Well in that case, id better go to my local catholic church and bow down befor all the statues. Thanks for enlightening me.
@@peterzinya407 I get where you are coming from and if anyone bows down and worships a bit of wood or a lump of carved stone itself, they are wrong (I know no Catholic who would do that. Ask them if they are bowing to the bit of wood or the memory of Christ). But using paintings and statues (and nowadays photographs) to remind us of Christ and his life is different. I feel that down through the years, Protestants have maligned the remarkable gifts of artisans who have decorated Churches throughout the ages. Artistic gifts that have come from God, no less. When I saw Protestant Churches in Holland with vandalised headless statues, I felt a deep sorrow for the medieval stonemasons and all their hard work, all created for the glory of God. Idolatry is far more about worshipping money and power. That's where people need to be careful when considering idolatry and not a statue of Christ in his mother's arms.
@@candyclews4047 let me refresh your memory.......
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
Can you read? It says not to bow down yourself to them. But you Mary worshipers dont care what god says. You love bowing befor idols. And you say prots are in error for not bowing befor your idols. Just think about it.
Love the Catholic sphere on UA-cam like you, Pints with Aquinas, Renewal Ministries (love Ralph Martin), Ascension, etc. For me, the biggest driver was meeting my now priest, when I was initially interested in attending my local church. Not only was he insanely knowledgeable on Scripture, Sacred Tradition, and had answers for every single question I had from transubstantiation, to dogmas of Mary, to sola scriptura, to contraceptives, but he also recommended and let me borrow a number of helpful books by Scott Hahn and others that went deeper into my specific questions. Not going to put any of the wonderful channels down on UA-cam but I'd also encourage anyone considering learning more about Catholicism from the outside like I was / am, to ask to meet with a priest and have a conversation.
In just the year and a half since that meeting, I can see my life radically changing and for the first time, almost feel the Holy Spirit actively working on changing me into what God always intended for me to be, and I know this lifelong process will be best aided with graces through the Catholic Church.
My son converted to Catholicism and became very educated about it. (He will begin studying for the priesthood in August). As a Protestant I began skeptically asking him every question I could possibly think of. His answers were so beautiful and complete that I am now joining the Catholic church.
The BILLION dollar Protestant, Praise & Worship" music industry has taken millions of Catholics out of the Church. I have never heard a well known Catholic apologist address the problem.
Why is "worship is superior to a light show" not enough?
They were on their way out anyway.
Bad formation.
@@Kitiwake
That's the part where I would say goes too far, while leaving the Church for the sake of a concert is shallow, encouraging them to leave would be counter productive
@@Kitiwake Many cradle Catholics INCLUDING me do not know their Faith well. But watching Trent Horn, Matt Fradd made me know at least the Catholic faith.
This is why even before I was baptized I never let my kids listen to prot worship music. Low effort, low IQ crap to ensnare the vapid and lazy with catchy chorus
Protestants love Jesus as much as we Catholics love Jesus. But we love Jesus in a different light than them. I'm not shocked that some Protestants are surprised to think that "Catholics love Jesus", because they perceive us as something different, as though we are against the faith in Jesus in the core. No, we all love Jesus, but it is equally important to love Jesus as He wants us to love Him, not just loving Jesus as we want to.
It's very difficult for me to see the upside of protestants saying that they're surprised to find out that the Church that Jesus himself founded is Christian. The implications of that sort of statement explain the cultural moment in North America, to them watching a Catholic be something other than a caricature is surprising because hating Catholicism _is part of their religion._
Do I believe pentacostals worship God when they do snake handling? No. But because I know God effects himself sacramentally, I know pentacostals are Christian and not something else because they've been baptized. However, not only do they not believe Catholics are Christian, they have no means in their paltry theology to correct themselves.
@@Qwerty-jy9mj Hi, thanks for your reply.
I myself wouldn't say that hating Catholicism is a part of Protestantism today, perhaps some denominations or some of them do. It's the general lack of information about what true Catholic Christianity, that is Christianity, is all about.
@@_ready__ The Church understands her Sacred Scripture 😉
It's very generous of you to say that Protestants love Jesus. Catholics and Protestants have Jesus in common and yet we have so much else different. Jesus said that if we love Him we will obey His commandments (John 14:15), and that is a real challenge whether you are a Catholic or a Protestant.
I was at CCv1 right before I made my journey into the Church. At the Q&A, I was actually shocked the amount of the Christian apologists who were divergent from classical theism (even one claiming to be an open theist!). It wasn't a nail in the coffin on protestantism for me right there, but after learning about classical theism and other views that are quite frankly troublesome during my time in college it was quite startlingly. Looking back, it just confirmed to me how disunity in faith can lead to crucial errors in understanding God.
And it’s nothing new .. we call these people with their own authority HERETICS
Honestly the reason I started thinking a lot about Catholicism was initially why it was the only church the Protestant ministry group I had befriended warned me to stay away from.
Catholicism is the “forbidden fruit” for Protestants. One bite and you’d want to get more.
Jesus said He and His followers will be persecuted.. Catholics seem to have that as evidence in their corner.
I remember this being played out in my own life in my conversion as well. I was initially opened up to Nicene Christianity from the LDS faith by Jordan Peterson (leading me to take the bible), CS Lewis, and people like Andrew Klavan on the Daily Wire. I was then exposed to Catholicism via Michael Knowles, and people engaging with me on reddit in Christianity subreddits and when such topics came up. What opened me up was the people I respected just happening to be Catholic or Christian, which allowed the arguments to land.
Glory to the Lord, Jesus Christ ✝️
I'm ex-Mormon too. Was pretty jack for years before finally asking for help and Mormonism absolutely not having what I needed. Finally found it in the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.
@@georgerafa5041 Glory to God in the highest! Welcome home to holy mother church!
I think genuinely showing that you love God will always be more powerful than any argument. If people see that you're trying to love God and your neighbor, that you have faith, hope, and charity, that a relationship with God in the Catholic Church gives your life meaning, they'll want what you have. Not to say arguments aren't important. We should at least know the basics of our faith well enough not to repeat blatant errors to non-Catholics. We're all a blend of intellectual, relational, emotional, etc., but may tend toward one over the others.
Trent’s last comment on working being the best at our talents hit home! Thank you.
Protestant here: i actually kind of liked some of Maher’s music for a while. What threw me off him though is in the aftermath of George Floyd he sang a blasphemous version of O Sacred Head Now Wounded, changing “head” to “neck” and making it about racial grievance.
Yuck I didn't know that
James White: I'm not saying, if you read Thomas Aquinas you'll become a Roman Catholic the next day,
Me: How about next Easter
Listening to James White debating Trent Horn really helped.
Based
Did that include the patristic filled forgery, Contra Errores Graecorum?
Or the Summa, which many classical Protestants have loved throughout history?
Watch his debate with Gary Michuta on the Deuterocanonicals.
Thomas Aquinas did not believe in the immaculate conception of Mary and argued against it. So then why should I believe it when your church suddenly decided it was dogmatic in 1854?
For me listening to Pints With Aquinas and finding this channel have truly helped me as a Protestant start looking at the Catholic faith.
Welcome home. Jesus is truely in the Eucharist.
I have not read enough CS Lewis. Always so articulate and pragmatic with his approach to apologetics.
@YAJUN YUAN I don't think his argument is a very good one. Most people become Christian before they've read the Bible from cover-to-cover, so they don't know about *everything* they're submitting to, even in a Solo Scriptura framework. The important thing is that they concede that the Bible is the Word of God and thereby submit to its authority. The same is true of someone submitting to the authority of the Church which Jesus founded. Here's Joe Heschmeyer saying that in a more articulate fashion:
ua-cam.com/video/xCSQEvGPRIY/v-deo.html
@YAJUN YUAN he had a divorce before believing in God.
@YAJUN YUAN > "Well initially yes, but if they later find something problematic..."
So if, say, Luther found James' epistle problematic with his own understanding of justification, is he free to question its divine origin and get rid of it? If not, why not?
> "Word of God = infallible because God is its author."
This logic doesn't hold and it's also not Biblical. Firstly, something can be purely human and infallible, such as a Mathematics textbook, containing no errors. Secondly, the Biblical authors held that their oral teaching was equally as authoritative as their written works, what we would today call the New Testament. Thirdly, was the decree of the Council of Jerusalem binding on Christians only when Luke wrote about it in Acts of the Apostles, or was it binding purely because of the authority of the Council?
> "Unless you can say Pope and his bishops are equal to the Word of God, then we must be talking about two different types of authority, one fallible and one infallible."
Was St. Peter infallible when he wrote his epistles?
> "Another difference is we know that word of God cannot change because its closed, so even if you are ignorant about all of it, you know that you will always be receiving the same word of God when you do later read the other parts."
Well, the Bible *did* change at the Reformation, with many books being removed (and some removed and then later put back).
Not only that, at the Reformation, the Bible was radically re-interpreted by different groups and these (often conflicting) beliefs were presented as the truth.
I would also suggest that this "advantage" you suggest is actually a disadvantage because it means that if the Bible doesn't talk about something (and it's our only infallible source), Christians are left in the dark about a lot of important issues.
Too bad he was Protestant. According to Catholicism, hes in hell 🤷♂
"The Pope has infiltrated K-Love" is one of the funniest utterances
I am a Catholic convert from last Easter from Protestant. What got me interested in Catholicism is when I learned that I actually had many Catholic beliefs anyway. So thankful I emailed the priest that I did to ask questions. He was a good "salesman" for Catholicism. We spent most of that meeting just on how much we have in common. For the other things, he made it easy to ask about it without making me feel bad for disagreeing.
Also wanted to thank you, Trent for your videos. They were a great help for me because you do a great job with questions. I watched a bunch of videos of Catholic answers and I especially loved it when you were on there because you have a gentleness in the way you answer questions.
@@bdklein28 of course catholic vudeos will talk about how wonderful the catholic church is. all the while the dirty priest is in the back room molesting an alter boy. look at their fruits, not what they say.
I grew up a Protestant in a predominantly Catholic community. I witnessed Catholics living their faith, but just as often Catholics living contrary to their faith. In the end I became Catholic, but it was a rocky, muddy, dirty road. I saw a lot along the way to make me doubt the Catholic Church was special. Apart from what they did on Sunday, they were like everybody else. If it weren't for a consistent Catholic message beamed into my community from the outside by Catholic radio, I doubt I could have chosen Catholicism over something else.
It bears repeating that the only good reason for being Catholic is that it's true. If if were down to the earthly goodness of anything associated with it, it wouldn't have lasted 2,000 years
If that's all then I suggest you weren't able to distinguish the faith itself from those who struggle to apply it.
@@Kitiwake That's true. At that point in my life I was hoping to see more of people's faith in their day by day behavior. In part I don't think it was there. In part I wasn't looking hard enough.
@@Qwerty-jy9mj I don't totally disagree, but religion isn't a set of abstract truths like geometry. Some of its truths have to do with people. E.g., if you follow this way, you will be a changed person. Etc. If you see a lot of people apparently following it who seem to be just like everyone else, I think it's natural to question whether it's true.
There are *WEEDS* among the _TARES._
Thank you. I (we all) need the occasional boost to remind us that the best evangelization tool we have is to live our life and faith joyfully using the gifts we have. Music, art, chemistry, mathematics, law, or for me laughter. I'm of course ready to walk with them for a while after I have captured their interest.
Your wife dropping them bars against Taylor Marshall and the E Knock clap back has me on the edge of converting. (Jk but it's really funny tho)
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nice seeing you here, I love your work!
Lol! Good to see you here. Love your content on mere Christianity, especially on the census of Quirinius.
@@lyterman thanks
Growing up a Protestant, I only ever met “non-practicing” Catholics. A Protestant would never frame themselves in that light and it really confused me.
As an adult, I met Catholics who love Jesus. I read my way into the church. However, just as my husband was ready to explore the Church with me, his lifelong friend who was a priest left the Church to marry. The ex-priest now attends an extremely liberal Methodist church. Further proof to my husband that Catholicism isn’t worth our time. Pray for him.
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Pints, Trent, Akin, and the embrace of the church in all of it's traditions has made my spiritual life really fulfilling, that includes TLM and Latin music.
Request: Inspiring Philosophy does really thoughtful christian apologetics primarily through TikTok and I think a collaboration with him would be cool.
Unironically I think good rhetoric and Catholic memes help convert more souls than a long and well laid out argument.
Thank you for sharing this one! I’m in the beginning stages of converting and one of the things I was curious about was music and such. Like it sounds silly but part of me was like “Gregorian chants are great but that’s not really my vibe.” Lol
I’m glad to hear Matt Maher is Catholic, I already follow him and will probably be listening a bit more intently to his lyrics from now on.
Im also reading “Why We’re Catholic” and had no idea that most Catholics believe in a form of evolution and that it was a *Catholic priest* who came up with the theory behind the Big Bang! That blew my mind! Like, I don’t remember learning that in science class. The more I learn, the more I distrust the school systems.
Thank you for sharing Trent!
My favorite thing about Matt Mahr partially cause he put the word Transubstantiation in one of his songs because of a bet. Which to me is pretty based:
Which song? I’ve listened to a lot (I think nearly all) of his songs but I can’t remember if I’ve heard that one
@@kmtm93 i had to look it up. The song is called the End and the beginning. the word "transubstantiation" occurs in the first verse
You become living Tabernacles...wow❤
So much truth! I started listening to father, John Ricardo. It was his passionate way of explaining the gospel I need for evangelism that flipped the switch in my Protestant heart. Matt Maher was also a big influence. Hearing his passionate worship music and incredible dedication to he’s Catholic faith Also started melting my heart. Of course, there’s a lot more to the story… But I am Currently in RCIA. Now listening to scholars like Brandt Pitre, Scott Hahn, etc… it is beautiful and humbling to see things in scripture that I never saw before. I have been walking with Christ since 1996 ❤
Hi ! thanks for this video ! Also there are many things to learn about Jesus in Luke 24v13 to 35, here important verses:
13 That same day, two of them were going to a village called Emmaus, *60 furlongs away* from Jerusalem
16 *But their eyes were prevented from recognizing him* .
29 But they put pressure on him: “Stay with us, *evening is falling and already the day is fading*.”
30 As *he was at table with them* , *he took the bread, he blessed it and, after having broken it, he gave it to them* .
31 Then *THEIR EYES WERE OPENED and they recognized him*; but *he had already BECOME INVISIBLE TO THEIR EYES*.
33 *At the same time* they arose and *returned to Jerusalem* where they found the Eleven and their group gathered together.
35 And they on their side began to tell what had happened on the way, and how *they had recognized him AT THE BREAKING OF THE BREAD* .
So 2 disciples walking on a long road of 60 stadia from Jerusalem not recognizing Jesus walking with them and arrive in the evening at Emmaus, there Jesus makes the consecration of the bread and the eyes of these disciples are opened, what eyes here? since just afterwards it was: but he had become invisible to them!" And now these 2 disciples say they recognized Jesus at the breaking of the bread! I remind you that one of these disciples is called Cleopas and does not not part of the 12 during the Eucharistic institution. Little clue too, this fraction of the bread consecrated by Jesus gives these 2 disciples strength because >>> At the same time they set off again on this road while it is dark and that there are 60 stages to walk.
This is proof that Jesus wants everyone to recognize him in the consecrated bread: Holy Eucharist!
And with that visit the site of Carlo Acutis which has listed all the Eucharistic miracles around the world
What led me to the Catholic Church was my own research and EWTN, Catholic Answers, Lizzys answers, and of course Trent Horn's book Case for Catholicism. I think God for these things because without them I would probably still be Southwrn Baptist.
When Christ tells us about not building a house on sand and then then I’m supposed to believe sola scriptura is a solid argument without having one biblical reference defending its teaching but then we see Simon bar Jona becoming the Rock or Peter has at least one scripture defending the Catholic Church which is why I left the Protestant church in 2002 at 16 among so many other reasons. I’d rather have a messy house on rocks than a weak house on sand that’s foundation shifts under every wind or wave.
That's a great way to put it, glad you're home!
@@_ready__ his particular commission was to preach to the gentiles
@@_ready__ Peter being an Apostle is given the great commission to go and make disciples of all nations. His particular commission is to serve the apostles as a leader. Historically, Peter also ministered to the gentiles in the latter part of his life, since he died in Rome.
I remember Cameron Bertuzzi would always remark that Alexander Pruss is Catholic whenever he would talk about contingency arguments
Yes, great example of the concept Trent is talking about.
The best way to attract protestants to Catholicism is to pray for them. Nothing important happens apart from prayer.
I would throw in acts of charity as well. They will know us by our love
Yeah pray for more good Catholic teachers to teach them. That’s the answer to the prayers
Look at the new studio drip! Nice Trent!
This rang true for me. However, it’s really infuriating to see all of these “bests being attacked by modernism just as I come into the Church.
My experience in China inspired me. The young people becoming Catholic and the super committed African students at the parish church showed me the universal appeal of our faith. It is stronger when under persecution.
I'm Protestant and came across one of your videos about an hour ago. Other than having to watch Spencer Smith I really enjoyed this video.
Be careful watching Trents videos he is fillin up RCIA classes all over the USA.
@@MrPeach1 No worries, I've had many friends that were Catholic and one right now that's a Deacon. We've had some interesting conversations as you can imagine. Anything I watch of Trent's is for information only. Thank you though!
@@getgordonallen I am Catholic so I was just trying to be funny. But he really has brought a great number of converts to my parish here in Virginia.
@@MrPeach1 I thought that seemed sort of odd. Sorry in that context it is very funny, but I thought you were being critical of him. Usually those things don't go over my head like that. I've watched a few of his videos and for the most part I think he is very good and thorough at what he does. Through the years most of my friends that were Catholic usually couldn't answer questions I had. My friend that's a Deacon has done a good job with his answers and explaining Catholic beliefs. He and I have had some good debates and discussions.
@@getgordonallen As a Cradle Catholic I spent most of my life with my parents wanting me to explore the faith but I was just disinterested. I got more serious about understanding the faith about 4 years ago. These apologist have helped me learn and embrace my faith on a more intellectual and historical understanding. They have helped me to chose to be a Catholic as opposed to just being born into it. It's good to see your open to hearing our side of the story.
If the radio host is worried about bridges to Catholicism, I wonder if he has warned against C S Lewis.
As a Georgia born Protestant, Flannery O’Connor was an essential figure in my conversion.
More good Catholic teachers needed. In the past the Catholic education has been horrible. “Believe in Jesus and the Bible” without the WHY, is recipe for Protestants and athiests in the making
Definitely uncovers a new layer of meaning to a title of St. Thomas Aquinas as 'the Common Doctor'! Thanks for what you do, T-Ho! -- from another fellow convert from good ol' St Theresa's in PHX (class of 2000).
6:18 Guess why I reached out to thank George Werver the other day.
He sent people from Bible colleges down to Italy to do missionary work with Catholics.
My mother made the exact same discovery you allowed some Protestants to make.
Two observations.
A) While my mother basically already ceased to be Anticatholic then, before I was born or even made, she did not cease to be a Fundie.
B) 1960's Italian Catholics were far more Fundie than 2010's US Catholics.
Fantastic video and sound advice
The fact that there are still fundamental debates about Christology, the Trinity, and the nature of God happening within Protestantism with the air of legitimacy is reason enough to seriously doubt Protestantism. These questions were settled in the first millennia, yet some Protestants feel they have the right to question these conclusions. I’m thinking of Dr. Craig’s neo-apollinarianism (his term, not mine), the eternal subordination of the son debates, rejections of original sin, many articulations social trinitarianism which ultimately lead to tri-theism, etc. If you’re a Protestant, should you be so concerned about ancillary doctrines like intercession of the saints, or how many children Mary had when Protestantism struggles to tell you who God is?
I think confessional Lutheranism or conservative Anglicanism is pretty much the only option for serious Protestants because they are the only ones who seem to make a believable case about how the other “non-infallible”authorities (Church teaching, holy tradition, etc.) can have any binding authority in relation to sola scriptura.
I'm a fairly new fan of your podcast. GREAT WORK. Thanks for exposing me to Matt Maher. Reverting back after 24 years as evangelical. Why? I'm very Pro-life and find seeker friendly evangelical churches AVOIDING this. This has disturbed me greatly. Also. Studying church history and Thomas Aquinas. Realizing too many protestant churches believe too many different things (no stability in theology). Then finding Bishop Barron, Pints with Aquinas, Council of Trent, Capturing Christianity, Father Mike, Breaking in the Habit and watching conversion stories. My husband and I decided to read church history together and it has changed everything. We're in the south so we kind of in the closet with our evangelical friends who will have very hard time understanding, but the people at the catholic church have welcomed us with open arms knowing our situation. I do believe God has brought me to the catholic church to be a bridge, perhaps show them the value of knowing scripture (which is a bit lacking) and maybe I can show my evangelical friends not to throw away 1500 years of history. I love them all and even when I was in ministry team at evangelical church I was reading catholic authors and never thought the catholics were heretics. I really don't get the bulldog personality of James White. His hatred toward catholicism seems so personal, while you seem to understand and get your points across so much more dignified. I appreciate all the work you have put into defending the catholic faith.
Trent, is there any chance you can respond to the last video from Gavin Ortlund about the icons and the early church fathers unanimously rejecting the veneration of them?
I would be very interested in seeing your response, I also saw a lot of comments under his video from catholics who seemed to be hearing about this for the first time.
It makes me super sad when I encounter animosity between Catholics and Protestants. I mean, I did laugh a bit at Matt Maher's music being called a bridge to hell but it's a serious issue all the same. Many of my Protestant friends were told by their parents/grandparents that Catholics don't love Jesus, worship Mary and don't read the scriptures. And I crossed myself once and was told not to bless myself 😅 so...I've felt the animosity too! I grew up high church Anglican and often wondered where I fell. I'm thankful to have been led to the Roman church! Even though most of my friends and family disagree and can't seem to dialogue about it.
I will also add that I don't tend to like Christian music (modern I mean) because it constantly feels like the artists are trying to sell me something. But Matt Is a true artist and I do like his work so you're probably right! He's obviously making an impact!
I wholeheartedly agree with everything Trent said, and it’s important to know that God can and will work through non-Catholics, and give his Holy Spirit to people outside of the Catholic Church to accomplish His will.
If you want to see some very obvious “God is working through this person” evidence for people who are very far from becoming Catholic, watch the interview on the Shawn Ryan Show with the Machine Gun Preacher. Absolutely incredible story where God is OBVIOUSLY using this guy. It’s awesome to see God working through non-Catholics in very obvious, incredible ways. He may not be Catholic, but he’s been incredibly obedient to our Lord.
If he ain’t makin it to Heaven, I’m screwed lol.
Jimmy Akins Mysterious Word is had the biggest part in leading me to Catholicism.
Please Trent, can you make some rebuttal about Spencer Smith videos ?
Matt Mahar was a boon to my heart when I converted in the mid 2000's.
for me its being hard to bring people to catholicism due to bad testimony of other members
I just have to say, the warning that the guy gave about Matt Maher was really funny. In a w 0:03 ay, though, he is kind of right. Matt Maher’rs music had a huge influence on me when I was starting my journey towards the church.
I had always been equal parts, drawn to Catholicism, and taught to fear it. When I just couldn’t believe the things that I had always believed anymore, and was starting to study a little bit about Catholicism, I knew that Matt Maher was Catholic, And as a music lover, decided to delve more deeply into his songs and lyrics. I thank God all the time for using Matt Maher in my life. His channel led me to so many other great UA-cam channels as well. Including this one.
I do wish all these antiCatholic preachers would use the much more correct term of Latin Rite Catholics when referring to the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. “Roman” Catholic is the label the newly formed Church of England came up with in the 16th century.
If I hadn't read "The Lord of the Rings," I don't know if I'd be Catholic today. I was an evangelical Protestant when I came to faith in Christ, but then 20-odd years ago, I read LOTR, loved it (and when I say I loved it, I mean it was the most enjoyable reading experience of my life), and then heard it was full of Catholic symbolism. I was intrigued because I hadn't picked up on that in my reading. So I read a book explaining that. That's when I leaned about Tolkien's mother, Mabel, and her conversion from the Church of England to the Catholic Church. My mind was blown. I had never in all my life been told that Protestants can become Catholics. There were ex-Catholics in the pews beside me at my church -- I knew their stories -- but nobody once told me that there are ex-Protestants at mass. I thought, "WHY would anyone convert from Protestant to Catholic, especially at the expense of being disowned by your family AND family-in-law (as was the case for Mabel)??? Anyway, suddenly, I had to find out why she did that. A chink had been blown in the wall. And the rest is history. I've been Catholic for close to seven years 🙂. I was drawn to the beauty of Lord of the Rings -- beauty wins people very effectively.
I noticed that Catholic Churches and art tend to be much more beautiful than many Protestant places of worship.
Holy cow! I had no idea Matt Maher is Catholic! How awesome.
Actually I think the sentiment from this guy does have some truth to it.
What I mean is, I am extremely caution about listening to Protestant music, especially around my children. Because I have heard many songs that contain lyrics which contradict the Catholic faith. So I don’t want my kids absorbing ideas that contradict the faith.
Now, it is not like Catholic music is singing about the infallibility of the Pope 😅
I would be curious if he has specific objections to a particular song or if he just objects to any music written by a Catholic?
I actually heard Francis Chan say in an interview that he was shocked to learn that Matt Maher was Catholic. He said it made him think differently about Catholicism.
Francis Chan also has come to believe in the transubstantiation of the Eucharist.
Former protestant, I converted to Catholicism 1 month ago. I don't regret it. ♱
Julianico, what made you consider catholicism?
@@gonzalomorales1342 Well, I watched the videos on the channel Capturing Christianity by Cameron Bertuzzi and the arguments from scholars were convincing, for example the case for the pope. However, there were numerous other topics on German channels that adressed Sola Scriptura.
@@caesarius2004 interesting. God bless you.
@@gonzalomorales1342 God bless you too
How exciting! I just learned in Trent's video with Cameron not to say "welcome home".....I'm still figuring out what I should say instead....so for now I'll say "Praise God!"
Matt Maher was influential early on in my conversion journey. Lord, I Need You is one of my favorite songs and I thought if that was written by a Catholic, maybe Catholics are Christians after all.
I love that one too! So simple but so beautiful.
im watching this video because Trent Horn did exactly what he was describing in this video. He did a good job answering different questions and objections i had about the catholic church.
Agree with you completely. Use your gifts to evangelize.
Could you please share the gospel with me by replying to this comment with it.
@@michaal105 Jesus our God was born, died for us, and raised on the third day.
@@tafazzi-on-discord How would you evangelise someone you meet in a park for example. What would you say to them?
@@michaal105 I'm not very extroverted, so I don't really see myself doing it, but I'd ask them if they are baptized. If they aren't I'd offer to explain why that is a dangerous state for their eternal destiny, if they are I'd invite them to mass, and if they are reticent I'd try to address their objection.
So, are you validly baptized in the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit as cosubstantial persons of the One True God?
@@tafazzi-on-discord I am baptised in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. The reason I asked my initial question is that I am very curious to hear from a Catholic how they would explain the gospel. How they would share it I mean. So say you and I were having a coffee. How would you explain the gospel to me?
I appreciate you responding to me by the way. Thank you.
I actually experienced this, finding that some of the most intelligent writers on other topics I was reading happened to be Catholic.
i Love Trents Videos
I remember telling people at my old Protestant work (where they played K Love all day) that Matt was Catholic, they couldn’t believe it
Love hearing convert stories !!
Totally agree, Trent! Thank you!
I agree with Trent that Catholics need to be more involved with Mere Christianity apologetics. It's a great way of connecting with atheists, but also with Protestants who want more than mere Christianity apologetics.
@@_ready__ As a Catholic I agree that many Catholics unfortunately don't know the Bible well, nor do they know the teachings of the Church. However, I think that's true of Protestants as well.
I think the more you study the Bible without pre-conceived filters, you may not necessarily become Catholic, but it becomes harder to reconcile Protestant doctrine with what the Bible actually says. Then when you study what 1st and 2nd century Christians believed, you find no historical basis for Protestant doctrine.
@@_ready__ I was Presbyterian for many years, but after reading the Bible for many years, I became convinced Jesus founded the Catholic Church, and we are saved only through the Catholic Church.
@@_ready__ When it comes to understanding the Christian faith, the starting point for most Protestants is the Bible. This makes intuitive sense. If you want to know what Christianity is, you’re told to read the Bible.
However, when you read the Bible, you have to accept that Jesus didn’t leave behind a Bible, but a Church. Christianity began with the Church. The New Testament came later as a product of the Church, not the other way around. It was the Church that first needed to have the understanding of what constituted authentic Christianity to determine which books of the Bible were valid. When this dawned on me, it forced me to change my orientation of how I ought to understand Christianity. Its a product of the Church, not the Bible. To know raw authentic Christianity, you can begin with the Church.
It’s more often the case that someone can be a Christian, yet never read a word of Scripture; however, one can’t be a Christian without a Church. There’s no such thing as a ‘churchless’ Christian.
If Christianity began with Church, then whatever organization Jesus left behind must remain, it will spread around the globe, and it will continue to remain until the end of time. The Church is infused with the Holy Spirit; therefore, we know nothing will destroy it, not even Satan; which means, not even the sinfulness of human beings will be able alter its teachings. The Church began as the singular authoritative source for Gospel truth; and it will always retain its authoritative role in teaching and professing the Gospel truth.
If all of this is true, this may not convince one that the Catholic Church is true; however, it calls into question many Protestant assumptions and doctrinal claims.
@@_ready__ Thank you for explaining. God bless.
Love the new studio, Trent!
Poaching, huh? Not a single Protestant in this country needs to worry about being denigrated when they admit to their faith in public. We Catholics must begin and operate from a place of enduring denigration. The only class of people that have never denigrated me for being a Catholic, is the homeless people on the streets. Not a single one of them has ever given me side eye or stink face for being Catholic when I perform Works of Mercy for them... not a single one...
It's only everyone else who is not homeless who will give me the side eye or the stink face or insult me or scream at me outright in front of witnesses for being Catholic.
What's the difference between those two groups of people? Being convinced of One's Own power. The homeless are not so convinced of their own power, so that gratitude has a chance to fill in that power vacuum in their spirits. The non-homeless people are very convinced of their own power. There is no power vacuum in their spirits. It also means there's no room for gratitude in their Spirits either.
Because I'm old enough now to interact with the homeless while maintaining boundaries the whole way through the interaction, they aren't scary to me, they aren't 'other' to me.
Don't be afraid of the homeless because you think they might ask you for something that you can't give. Be ready to tell them NO at the drop of a hat while you're talking to them but, at the same time. Be willing to cough up $2. They each have their own Guardian Angel to convict their souls about what they should be doing with that $2 that you handed them. So let them have the money and don't worry about it. "The left hand should never know what the right hand is doing."
I agree, I am tired of the ridicule and sarcasm and downright hostility toward Catholics. Why are some people so afraid of us?
@@StAlphonsusHasAPosse ONLY in the United States of America 🇺🇸, Western Europe 🌍, and the Islamic Middle East Catholicism is HATED. But Catholicism is well LOVED in Asia and Africa.
@@Darth_Vader258 Good to know
Thanks for putting me on to Matt Maher
Finally Spencer Smith is showing up on Trent's show. I've been watching his vids for a while just and it's some of the most headaches inducing nonsense I've heard.
I can already hear his unhinged reply.
In my experience as a Catholic (I converted in 1970), I have found such a reluctance from Protestant relatives and others that any premise presented to them to begin a discussion, even the most innocent and that which we all should agree with, they won't "put their hands up" on. They are so brought up against Catholicism they fear admiting anything. 😂
i deal with that in my family also. Oh well just be a lamp on a lampstand and wait it out. always be ready though when the conversation happens.
Are these people ever embarrassed by the utter lack of basis for believing they have the same interpretation as the early Church? If they were to hear some technical scientific jargon, they would readily admit they don't know what it means, they have to be taught. But when it comes to the Bible, they just take for granted whatever interpretation their particular sect holds. They would do well to follow the distinction between the literal and spiritual interpretation then base their views on the most well attested literal interpretations.
@@_ready__ As a cradle Catholic Salvation is this. "REPENT of your SINS and BELIEVE and OBEY the Lord Jesus Christ ✝️ to be SAVED."
@@_ready__ That's what I will SAY if I encounter a dying man on any situation. But I BELIEVE *ALL* the doctrines and dogmas of the _Catholic Church._
@@_ready__ I am a Catholic THROUGH and THROUGH.
Thank you Trent !
How can you not be a huge Lord of the Rings person, Trent?
After failing to form a group to play dungeons and dragons with, despite trying for 3 years I am not too salty to like Lord of the Rings
That lazy, “swooping” in topic you mentioned Catholic do sometimes in arguments towards the end, in the gaming community, is called “sniping” or “farming”, if you needed terms to add to your repertoire for future videos and podcasts 😉
Save all the modern praise and worship music and just take em to the Latin Mass
Trent, you need to start putting as much work into your clothes as you do that awesome studio. Keep up the great work!!
what is more important? attact protestants to catholicism or attract atheists to christianity?
Both, they are both in very grave danger
There are unitarian, oneness pentacostal , calvinist in protestant denominations, their teachings are false teachings.
I would say it depends based on which one you're best at discussing. Jesus said that we are many parts, all one body. Some people are better at arguing against atheism, others better at arguing against Jews, Muslims, and others who believe in God or some kind of god but aren't Christians, and yet others are better at bringing those who are Christians into Christ's Holy Catholic Church. We need all these people.
While some might say bringing atheists into Christianity is more important (because even Protestants can technically be saved through their baptism provided they commit no mortal sins afterward, whereas atheists have no route to salvation that I am aware of), if arguing about the existence of God isn't your thing, then trying to bring Protestants back into the true Church might be a better fit for you. It's important for Christianity to be united, and Protestants guilty of mortal sin generally do not have a sacrament of Reconciliation, so they need to be brought into the Church to have access to this.
Atheism is just a deracinated sect of protestantism tbh
The latter and I'm Catholic.
The closest I ever came to becoming Catholic was for these reasons, especially that it seemed Catholics knew what they were talking about much more than the low church Protestants I grew up with. I wasn’t quite swayed on the theology, but it was very refreshing to explore new territory
When I first started becoming Catholic, I stumbled on Spencer smith. He doesn’t just hate Catholics, he actually hates the whole Christian music movement. So, don’t feel to bad fellow Catholics. He’s just a little lost.
Yes, I get what you mean, but he said the music is a gateway to Romanism and Romanism is a gateway to hell, so in his mind and to his audience he stated that "Romanism" is an issue and a gateway to hell. And I think I saw him say plenty other things in the past derogatory about Catholicism that were nothing to do with music.
Love Matt Maher. I was listening to him today. "Remembrance" is a fantastic song and if any protestant listened to it I could see them turning their wheels...
Praise and worship music needs to follow folk music out the door
For those who think that anti-Catholicism isn’t a thing anymore, we present a man claiming that praise and worship music written by a Catholic is a bridge to Hell.
I thought guitar masses and copying protestant liturgies would work
Unfortunately so did Vatican II
It drove me away for many, many years. I prefer to not see the musicians at all. Some parishes sing everything and I want to run away. So tacky and irreverent.
Is this the new studio? If so, I love it.